In reality I'd be hard pressed to say no, however, I assure you that you would never see me again.

>>1470975

Alternatively, if you DID, it would be the last thing you did see.

>>1470967
Unfortunately there's waaay too many 'female SM' people already. They wouldn't think it was a joke, just that you were the n'th creepy neckbeard to have the idea.

>>1470967
the example you provided is everything but "subtle"

>>1470986

Ok then, that's a bad idea. I'm not saying I would do that, only that the idea prompted this train of thought.

I suppose I could have expected that "female SM" would be common.

Well, a SM chapter based on the OP pic could cause some nerdrage, but again, it wouldn't be clear that it was a joke.

Actually, you know what? Nothing you could possibly field out of humor will ever be so ridiculous that someone hasn't already wanted to do the same thing *seriously.*

Reasonable Marines

Play Tau, play as many devilfish/hammerheads/piranhas as possible, give all of them undercarraige lighting and call your sept Tsu'Fast'Tsu'Furious. Bonus points for bikini-flag-girl tau.

Have all their equipment, paint, joints, somehow form into the symbol of Chaos.

>>1471044
>>bikini-flag-girl tau

Not sure where I'd get a model for that, but otherwise that's looking good...

>>1471042
>Reasonable Marines

you just blew my mind

>>1471042
The problem is that Reasonable Marines don't fight like Marines

>>1471042

-License plates on all vehicles
-As many allies as you can get away with
-All commanders wear helmets
-Build a small and inviting 'PoW camp' scenery piece, keep it OFF THE TABLE on your side. Place enemy casualties in it as they are removed and declare that you're treating them decently.

>Build a small and inviting 'PoW camp' scenery piece, keep it OFF THE TABLE on your side. Place enemy casualties in it as they are removed and declare that you're treating them decently.

That *could* get some rage flowin'.

>>1471091

OP here: YES! This is perfect. It also lets me make use of the marines in the Battle For Macragge. The helmets thing bugs me anyway...

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY /tg/?!

>>1471117

The picture was deliberately selected for rage potential. Don't take it personaly.

>>1471091
Thats pretty much win.

>>1471091
XD that sounds great! Also, I think Reasonable Marines would be more "shooty"

I came up with a lot of the Reasonable Marines stuff, but I have to admit I'm still stumped for a colour scheme. Help me, /tg/?

It needs to be something that says mature and sensible, but at the same time it needs to be visually striking and look cool, because let's face it, who wants to paint 80 marines grey/brown even for a joke?

Painter here:

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/smp.php

GW colour list here:

http://bolterandchainsword.com/Tyler/GWColors.pdf

>>1471155
Especially if you model all the guns as tasers/water cannon.

>>1471175
Camo.

Digital camo. The kind an actual army might use.

>>1471175

COLOR SCHEME?!

Reasonable Marines use digital camouflage appropriate to their environment.

>>1471175
Do your favourite camo scheme. there you go.

Fuck the joke; Reasonable Marines could well become my main army...

Yeah, camo was the original suggestion and I think whatever they do they should get away from the 'heraldic' look of most Space Marines.

For places where it can't be avoided (for instance, banners/standards) I'd like to see 'safety notice' iconogrophy of the sort you see in Portal, in the leaflets on the back of airline seating, or on Radiohead's OK Computer album art.

>>1471204

post pix

>>1471187
>>1471200
>>1471201

I'm going to call this a consensus: Reasonable Marines use realistic camo.

>>1471219

"POINT TOWARD ENEMY" on the bolters would be lulz.

>>1471222

As you will it, so shall it be done.

Like I said though, I'm just getting into WH40k, and this will be my first time modeling since I put together that one plane when I was 10, so don't expect anything soon, or good.

Reasonable Marines would be fucking scary to fight, fluffwise. Because you can at least depend on most Space Marines to yell shit and charge the enemy with swords for "glory". But Reasonable Marines wouldn't. They'd go in camoflagued from cover and shoot unless necessary.

TAU-MARINES.

Or buy Tyranids and Eldar(!Iyanden!) and tell everyone they work together.

>>1471252

I do tau and nids allied.

>>1471257

>>1471263
A great game, used to play it a lot.

>>1471219

This will cause RAGE for 2 reasons:

-It goes against the well-established I LOVE BEING VISIBLE fluff that SM have.

-When the camouflage actually does match up with the scenery (or you paint, like, 4 a separate instances of your army for different environments) people will actually overlook and forget important details like the existence of your tanks. I've seen this happen with hammerheads that weren't even using such advanced camoflage as counter-shaded digital because the colors matched the scenery. This annoys people.

>"POINT TOWARD ENEMY" on the bolters would be lulz.

HAHAHAH

I still want to see Dapper Marines in Mahogany and Brass armour.

>people will actually overlook and forget important details like the existence of your tanks.

If this happens then you can claim complete success in your endeavour.

>>1471250

This image contains 2 (two) Space Marines attempting to advance upon you undetected: An Ultramarine and a Reasonable Marine.

Which one would you most likely shoot at first?

Reasonable Marines need to wear suits and tophats! Also they should have snooty british accents.

>>1471371
No, thats my Dapper Marines.

Reasonable Marines is descriptive, but they would presumably still have an actual chapter name. What should that be?

>>1471394
Adeptus Rationales? the declension is probably wrong, though

>>1471408

Like any writer at Games Workshop has ever spoken Latin.

>>1471408
"Adeptus" indicates that they operate outside the Adeptus Astartes.

Reasonable Marines is fine.

It's not like we can come up with a name more stupid than Ultra Marines.

>>1471436
Oh. I just assumed from this pic I saw with the Angry Marines banner reading Adeptus Irates.

>>1471473

It's the Angry Marines, who's going to correct them?

>>1471477
lulz

>>1471353
The Ultramarine. However, the Reasonable Marine will then probably go for cover and kill you anyway.

Torture is not the Reasonable Marine way

>win. Add torture devices/torturers minis and still say to the player they are being treated nicely for lulz

No, you don't get it, the point is to inspire rage by mocking the GRIMDARK tropes of the setting. Torturing prisoners is normal for 40k and therefore will not inspire nerdrage.

"My platoon engaged the dread Reasonable Marines in battle, their nonfatal takedown maneauvers brutally incapacitating my brave soldiers and denying them noble deaths in the name of the Emperor. Only I escaped, being knocked unconscious by a backhand from a heretical Marine while I was attempting to chant my demo charge's machine spirit into self destruction.

"When I awoke, I saw in the distance that those... those MONSTERS had built a Prisoner of War camp, where my poor and unfortunate brethren were forced to be reasonably restrained with no undue force! I could only weep and pray the Emperor would offer them salvation by a sudden plasma leak slaughtering the lot of them, so their martyred souls could ascend to reside with His Holiness forever."

>>1471555

Indeed. Torture is an incredibly ineffective and barbaric means of information gathering primarily used by Inquisitors and SoBs that get off on fire and crushing things beneath their boots.

>>1471626

HURR BUM RAPE

Stop fagging up the thread you latent fucking queer, the OP wanted subtle provocation, not childish insults.

"Incoming signal."

"Hail, Eldar. I am Force Commander Randi of the Reasonable Marine Chapter of the Imperial Adeptus Astartes."

"What is your buisness here, Mon'Keigh?"

"We have become aware that this system harbors a Necron Tomb World, a Chaos incursion, and a Dark Eldar army. We are here to cleanse it."

"You're hostility will not be tolerated!"

"We hold no quarrel with you, Farseer. If we keep out of each other's way there's no reason we can't both fight the true threats here. In fact, if we coordinated against the Necrons..."

"I will not be decieved by your clumy trickery! This system was once ours and it shall be ours again! I HAVE FORESEEN IT!" <end signal>

"Your orders, Commander?"

"Prepare to land on the Necron Tomb world, and inform the Battle Brothers that the Eldar are now targets as well. If we can kill their high-and-mighty Farseer, we might be able to route them back into the Webway without much fighting."

"Yes, my Lord."

"Commander! Incoming signal from an Imperial Guard regiment!"

"What? Excelent! Now we can..."

"So, you Space Marines think you can just tromp in on your battle-barge and steal the glory of the Imperial Guard, do you?"

"... I..."

"Well we'll show you! I, Vance MOTHERFUCKING Stubbs, declare myself Govoner-Militant of this system, and will claim it in the name of the Imperial Guard!" <end signal>

"What just..."

"My Lord! The Inquition has arrived in the system!"

"Oh what now..."

"Commander Randi! Don't think we didn't detect you sending a signal to those filthy xenos! ALL IS TAINTED! ALL WILL BE PURGED BY THE FIRES OF THE SISTERS OF BATTLE IN THE NAME OF THE HOLY EMPORER! <DEAN SCREAM>!" <end signal>

...

"My Lord?"

"This is going to be a long fight."

>>1471734

<dean scream> was lulz

>>1471734
I lol'd

Should you ever wind up fighting a force of IG, separate the regular troops from the commissars in the POW camp, and have a spare Reasonable Marine with the regular guardsman. If anyone inquires, say that you're just separating the oppressed from the oppressors and offering them a chance to go into a more rewarding line of work on your battlebarge.

Important thing is that WHEN they actually do fight, they're pretty damn good. Because reasonable tactics tend to work.

When your enemy's force is reduced by two-thirds, say you formally offer the enemy force commander the opportunity to surrender. When he refuses and you win, declare that you captured the enemy force commander and tried him for war crimes.

>>1471756
>>1471769

These are in for sure.

>>1471769
I like your style

>>1471734
>>Force Commander Randi
>>Randi

Wait, you mean, The Amazing James Randi? Well, that makes sense. He's a pretty reasonable guy, and doesn't afraid of anything.

If you want to be more subtle about it, you could paint half your marines as dark angels and the other half as space wolves. Have them operate in mixed squads.

>>1471883

Why? Is there a fluff reason this should never happen? Do the chapters have a hate-icosahedron going on that I should know about?

I'd like to see Pretty Marines fielded, but they might not pass for subtle. Actual camo could cause interesting rage...

Who drew the OP?

>>1471895
Dark Angels and Space Wolves make the Ultramarines seem unobnoxious.

Attempt to play out the trial. This ought to work especially well if your opponent is a pure wargamer with no interest in RPGs or storytelling.

Make him select another unit to be his defense counsel or provide one for him if he refuses. Remember that 'killed our guys' is not a charge; 'killed our wounded/routed' is. Also if he uses any chemical or biological weapons nail him to the wall for that.

If found guilty sentence him to imprisonment or at worst death by hanging. Hanging has the fewest negative connotations associated with it - firing squads are for dictators, the guillotine is for maniacs, and the less said about the electric chair the better. It was good enough for the Nazis, it's good enough for your opponent's gold-nippled Blood Angels commander.

>>1471930
What about lethal injection?

>What about lethal injection?

Fuck you, I knew you'd bring that up.

The associations really aren't as good. It's much slower, as well as being too clinical, a perversion of medical science. It's also mostly used for killing rednecks who stabbed some hookers, or the occasional negro. No Nazis have been killed that way, (save by their own hand) which makes it inherently lamer.

It's just a lot cooler to bring out a little gallows and place the enemy commander on it before asking if he has any last words. Bonus points if it has a working trapdoor and you get to use it before your opponent takes his minis back.

>>1471957
Studies have shown that often the prisoner isn't completely sedate when the injection takes place, and since his lungs are paralyzed, he suffocates until he dies. Lethal Injection is too cruel to be a Reasonable Marines execution technique.

>>1471901

No idea. I got it from /tg/.

>>1471734

Well, Reasonable Marine narratives are pretty straight-forward. Orks, Necrons, Tyranids, Chaos, and Dark Eldar, they would fight on principle, and anytime they fight anyone else you can safely assume that it's because the other side is being a bunch of dicks about something or another and the Reasonable Marines have to do something about it.

>>1471990
The most common method is sleeping pill overdose

So I'm almost certainly going to be getting into WH40k. What could I do that would produce the largest amount of nerdrage among neckbeards and WYSIWYG nazis while still being vaguely subtle about it? (IE, no pokemon nids or paint jobs that cause seizures.)

Pokemon nids..funny story about that, cough..ahem..:
HQ: Hive Tyrant-75 pts- Lugia
Winged (40 pts)
Enhanced Senses- 10 pts
Venom Cannon- 40 pts
Toxin Sacs

180 Pts

Fast Attack Choice:
3 Warriors- Gengar
Adrenal Glands (I) +3
Enhanced Senses +2
Toxin Sacs +3
Winged +14
Death Spitter +10 /1 w venom cannon +20
157 pts

2 Raveners- 60-Sandstorm
Spinefists +12
2x scything Talons +16
88 pts

Troops
6 Genestealers- Nidoking
Extended Carapace-4 pts
Scything Talons-4 pts
Acid Maw-4 pts
168 pts

6 Genestealers-Nidoqueen
Extended Carapace-4 pts
Scything Talons-4 pts
Acid Maw-4 pts
168 pts

Heavy Weapons:

1 Carnifex- 85 pts- Golem
Acid Maw- 6 pts
Adrenal Glands (+1 WS)- 4 pts
Bio-Plasma-8 pts
Bonded Exoskeleton-20 pts
Extended Carapace-25 pts
Reinforced Chitin-15 pts
Regenerate-30 pts
Scything talons- 8 pts
Scything Talons- 8 pts
Toxic Miasma-8 pts
Tusked-10 pts
Scythe-tail-10 pts
(237 pts)

>>1472131

needs more pikafex

Crapdamnit /tg/! Now I'm tempted to do a Reasonable chapter myself!

>>1472386

Well, first thing you have to know is that language like that won't get you anywhere in the Reasonable Marines. Staying calm and focused is the goal, though a bout of righteous anger is only to be expected if an atrocity is committed before your eyes. However, your anger must be driven by your desire to see justice done to the perpetrator.

>>1470967

>>1472456
As decided by an impartial court of law, of course, if possible.

I'm a bit unsure whether the weaponry used by space marines are excessive force or not. Ideally, wounding enemies is preferred as opposed to killing them.

If it comes to a fight even Reasonable marines will shoot to kill, they're not stupid. They just won't kill you once you're a casualty or have surrendered, and they won't use chemical or biological weapons.

Of course they'll make every reasonable effort to avoid fighting.

>>1472562

If possible, obviously, but let's be *reasonable* here. Any weapon that can penetrate the field of badassery that surrounds all combatants in WH40k is going to have enough power to kill them as well. That's just a fact, which I'm sure Reasonable Marines will have simply come to accept. I'd say that the difference between the ethics of Reasonable Marines and any other 40k army mainly become evident after the battle is over.

I also can't imagine Imperial Courts of Law being particuarly useful for most things the RMs would want them for. They might be somewhat idealistic, but they're not stupid: they know that the only way a guilty Commissar is ever going to be justly executed by Imperial forces is either by their hand.

>>1472588
No, I mean, a wounded enemy is a bigger problem to a fighting force (squad) than dead enemy. It wastes their energy, and there's transportation issues to be considered.

But of course, in the 41st millenium people ignore wounded teammates, making a reasonable tactic unreasonable.

>But of course, in the 41st millenium people ignore wounded teammates

Exactly.

GRIM&DARK

>>1472602
Depends on if it's Abnett and/or Mitchell writing, or someone else.

Abnett and Mitchell tend to not go overboard with GRIMDARK.

>>1472588
In battle, I think Reasonable Marines would've tried all the diplomacy crap. Therefore they'd switch to reasonable's badass cousin "flawlessly efficient". They'd always attack from cover, use pre-emptively gained intelligence and scouts, heavy support, etc.

>>1472588
>>Of course they'll make every reasonable effort to avoid fighting.

Against other Imperial forces, and against Eldar and Tau, yes. They would still go out of their way to defeat the other armies on principle, though, just like other SM chapters, or any of the aforementioned armies if those armies are up to some shenanigans.

How about blue helmets a la the UN

>>1472661
Oh, that's a pretty good idea. Is anyone going to archive this thread? Reasonable Marine fluff is always good.

Btw, I think the Chapter Master's name should be something regular, like Jim or Greg.

>>1472655

They'd happily negotiate with Chaos or the Tyranids if those parties would be reasonable. This just never happens.

Except when they're fighting Witch Hunters and can take chaos allies. In which case you get to field daemonettes in casual clothing.

>>1472661

Good idea.

>>1472678

Yep, but not too casual - they aren't blue collar marines, after all.

Michael Bensley, perhaps?

Early concept art.

>>1472678

It takes more than one person to archive a thread. If you want it saved, go put in a request at the archive.

>>1472696

But where will I ever find appropriately scaled performance fleece?

>>1472661
Wouldn't really work unless there was a legible UN logo on it. Besides, if they were UN-like, they'd never do any fighting at all.

>>1472711
Sure. Either that or Picard something

>>1472717
Lord Licorice's site. You know, teh ACTUAL /tg/ archive?

>>1472715

The dove is a bit overboard. They do still pretty much exist to kick down people's orbital defenses and shoot them in the face; they just aren't so bloodthirsty about it.

>>1472787
How about some scales? Like weight scales, I mean.

>>1472799

I was thinking of a model with scales, actually. My idea was a RM holding a large sword in one hand and a set of scales in the other. Upon the scales would lie a human heart and a large feather on either side respectively. It would be a statue for RM base scenery. The I realized that marine models aren't big enough to be monuments and I can't sculpt, so I couldn't actually do that.

If you're doing concept art, then how about a RM about to execute a Canoness with his bolter, saying, "The only creature I've ever met with a more callous disregard for life than yours was a Necron Lord, and it at least had the courtesy not to proclaim its devotion to virtue while it murdered billions."

>>1472837
I think just a set of scales would be fine.

I think that's a little too melodramatic. Why not just one of them sitting at a table with a Tau in full armour...just chatting.

Reasonable Marines != Pacifist Marines

>>1472894
That was in response to >>1472885

>>1472894

That would also be good, and to-the-point, but I'm trying to think of something that emphasis both their relative sense of honor, and that they back this idealism up with a willingness to get their hands dirty in the ambient GRIMDARK of their world if need be.

Like Vash the Stampede, except not retarded. Ok, so not like Vash the Stampede at all. Never mind.

The Reasonable Marines logo should be the initials of their full chapter name in big white block letters.

If we're gonna have art of them in non-combat situations, we do need a color scheme. Grey probably is the best, as in >>1472715. That would be the easiest to layer camouflage on top of, I think, since I doubt they'd have a different colored set of armor for every conceivable environment.

>>1472919
How about them blocking a Tyranid charge with civilians behind them?

>>1472937
I agree. That's what I've always thought.

>>1472922
>>1472799

Scales with 'TRM' beneath them in a nice serifed font. Deep grey or proper camo colors for the armor, UN blue for the shoulderpads? The scales have the Aquila as a finial on the middle bit, to keep it nice and Imperial.

>Like Vash the Stampede, except not retarded. Ok, so not like Vash the Stampede at all. Never mind.

rofl. Yeah, I get it.

As for the symbol I think a torch representing the light of reason might be good.

>>1472941

That's good, but we'd need to make it clear that they're going the extra mile, so to speak, since *any* of the Imperial forces would defend civilian populations.

Ahh! I know: the civilians are Eldar. Now you've got them doing something that *seems* reasonable enough, a elite military force defending unarmed civilians against a solid wave of OM NOM NOM, but that is so utterly beyond the attitudes taken for granted in the GRIMDARK of the far future that a member of any other force, Imperial or Eldar, would not even be able to comprehend what they were seeing if you showed them the picture.

>>1472956
Sounds good to me.

>>1472961
I like the torch idea too, though. Maybe that could be a secondary symbol?

>>1472963
Oh oh! The Eldar themselves should look confused!

Also, keep in mind that Reasonable Marines can actually destroy the morale of an Ork WAAAAAGH. In the words of an Ork Warboss, "Dey just keep talkin'!"

>>1472981

It was mentioned before that some of the more reasonable forces of chaos might be tolerable for brief periods, but orks, tyranids, and necrons should be enemies even the RMs can just let loose on with the swift, brutal efficiency of the Emperor's finest.

>>1473003

Well Tyranids and Necrons certainly won't talk, so the RMs will sigh and then go about ruthlessly dismantling them.

The Orks on the other hand will be more of a comedy option, with the Orks becoming dismayed and confused as described above. Usually they won't actually parlay with the marines, but they will lose their will to fight and just wander off.

Favoured enemy: Orks?

"DESE BOYS IS BORIN', I'ZE GOIN HOME."

Yeah, but the problem with orks is that they might wander for a while, but then freakin' Gorgutz comes along to stir up a WAAAGH! So then they fight the now organized orks, defeat them, but then just as they destroy their stronghold Gorgutz gets away some how and the Chapter Master is all like, "I'll get you next time, Gorgutz! NEXT TIME!"

>>1473030
Randi would not lose his cool. He would probably say something along the lines of "How unfortunate." while making arrangements in his highly detailed mental plans for the rearrival of Gorgutz and a new band of Orks, seeking revenge.

>>1473030
Precisely. But other then Gorgutz, they can confuse the Orkz enough to make them leave.

i think reasonable marines is a pretty cool guy, he tries diplomacy and doesn't afraid of anything

could the reasonable marines make some great writefaggotry? e.g. kaurava campaign where it all turns out ok thanks to them

>>1473069

I think they're too reasonable...

Actually you know, that could be the "hook" for the Reasonable Marines. They are sent into zones where the situation requires cleanup. Naturally they always work within the trappings of government and their paper trail is extensive.

IE: "X system is in turmoil, fix it"

"lol, k. Bring me the forms I need to fill out to.."

request forms WF1098-1200 be filled out in triplicate and submitted do the Administratum before the initiation of writefaggotry.

>>1473047

Apparently Randi got promoted from Force Commander to Chapter Master. That's fine, he is amazing, after all. So now we've got James Randi as the Chapter Master of the Reasonable Marines.

That works quite well, actually. It would make sense that the Master of what must surely be the chapter closest to the Emperor's vision would be so opposed to religion, superstition, flim-flam and woo-woo. Ironically, he is a psyker.

>>1473085

The more we go into what the RMs actually do, the less it seems like they'd operate within the Imperial hierarchy. Protecting xenos civilians? Hell, even suffering the alien to live just because they're not trying to kill you? Heresy! Not letting Commissars execute every guardsman who commits even the slightest infraction under stress? Holding other marine chapters to standards of decency? Treason!

The Inquisition would be on these guys like virginity on Macha.

>>1473085
I think the way we have it is fine.

What the hell is going on in this thread?

/tg/ came up with the ultimate way to enrage nexkbeards and are now beginning to fall for it themselves.

>>1473112
Someone asked that in a previous thread. I think that either A) They're a rogue Chapter that doesn't actually get involved with Chaos (That way leads to Mary Sue). The Imperium COULD go after them, but the fact is that they get results and they aren't actually harming any of their interests

B) It's a Radical chapter. You've got Inquisitors using Daemonhosts and stuff in Eisenhorn, I think they'll tolerate this.

>>1473129

It can't be helped that the things which enrage neckbeards are sometimes awesome in their own right.

>>1473140
Rogue, Radical, to the Inquisition there is no difference.

>>1473140

Oh, right. Yeah, I guess the existence of sanctioned daemonhosts does mean there is a bit of leeway. I'm going to have to endorse option B.

Now, they only have to deal with the occasional Puritanical Inquisitor who can't stand the idea of a Space Marine chapter consorting with dark sided stuff like xenos. Picture related.

>>1473152
I mean that the Daemonhost users are ALLOWED in there. They had a whole part with this Inquisitorial council where one guy bitched out Eisenhorn for getting rid of this Chaos Tome because it "could have been used against them"

>>1473140
The idea that being reasonable is to Space Marines what Daemonhosts are to the Inquisition is awesome.

Reasonable Marines are and always have been regarded as renegades by the Imperium. That was the whole joke originally, that they got kicked out not for being too spiky and grim like the rest of the traitor marines, but for being too reasonable.

And yes, they aren't tainted by chaos. They'll ally with chaos forces as long as they behave themselves, but they too even-tempered to be tempted by the promises of chaos.

>>1473165
Possible Cannoness?

THEY'RE OUT THERE WITH THE ELDAR N 'DA ELDAR FLAG DX

>>1473174
We should make that a rule. NO CHAOS. It happened once and we started all this stupid Mary Sue shit about them having Chaos Mutations that don't affect their minds and stuff. *hangs head in shame*

FILTHY XENOS!!!

>>1473182

Man what? That does sound Mary Sue. I support that rule: No Chaos.

>>1473182
Eh? No one said anything about mutations. I'd go with what >>1473174 said about them being too level headed to get mutated, so they're resistant. If a brother (colleague?) falls to chaos, then he should be treated with respect & dignity, locked up in the records office and forced to assist with the sorting of the great and ever growing "in" pile.

In before "This boy's born to be a bureaucrat".

Yeah, they aren't going to be seduced by the unearthly allure of Slaaneshi Daemonettes because they regard the daemonettes as people rather than objects of desire.

The daemonettes for their part are kind of relieved to just be able to sit down with someone and talk for a change.

>>1473246
Kroot anyone?

>>1473194
No no, that was from a different thread a month ago or so.

>>1473197

I think we're pushing it...

>>1473197
>>1473253

To clarify, I'm with you on the "immunity to temptation" thing, but actual warp-spawn are still embodiments of raw emotion. I can't see the RMs getting along with beings that would mind-rape the RMs psykers into tearing open a portal of death and suffering in the fabric of reality if given the chance.

>>1473271

Which is exactly why it will inspire nerd rage when they do.

>>1473271
That I have to agree with

>>1473317

...

Yes, of course. If the RMs become a sort of gathering place for all those who are tired of the bullshit of the rest of the galaxy, they could by that fluff take renegade units from every list except necrons, nids, and orks.

The potential for NERDRAGE is huge!

>>1473197
I look forward to the day when drawfags work on this.

>>1473346
"You know, I'm just ...tired of people using me for sex...it makes me feel like shit".

"I understand. Your long association with the ruinous powers has blackened your soul and left you completely and totally inured to all of life's pleasures. That much is understandable. Now, I'd like to go back and talk about your father..."

>>1473317
>>1473343

SUBTLTY people! It is easy for the neckbeard to simply dismiss out of hand an army that's basically "lol everything" as absurd, which it is.

If we're sticking to a plain Marine army list then the Daemonette thing will only come up when facing Witchunters. Although it could be awesome when it does.

OP here.

Fuck. This thread certainly took off. Ok then, Reasonable Marines is going to be my main army. I can't help but feel bad for picking the most common army available, but maybe we can make it unique enough to compensate.

I'm definitively thinking that they should be a shooty army, and should involve plenty of vehicles and what have you for combined arms tactics, in keeping with the "realistic tactics" theme we've got going. Do SM have artillery and all that, or is that mainly just IG? With all that in mind, I might pick up my first WH40k stuff tomorrow. I was figuring I'd start with Battle for Macragge and the SM codex and work from there, unless you people have contrary recommendations given the goals involved.

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>>1473379
No, no Daemonettes. No fucking special powers >_<

omg. Just discovered this thred, Love the Reasonable Marines. My own chapter, the Praetorus Lunaris, led by mini Sailor Moon figurines, do a pretty good job of annoying the nerds (What the hecks a Neckbeard?) but I think TRM would do an even better job. I once saw a Adeptus Shotakon in a tournament and an Adeptus Batmanus... and an Adeptus Resivour Doggy Doggus... that was strange. Also saw a Nicus Gaeus (painted all white, with tiny little white cowboy hats and six guns.)

try using this Reasonable Marine special rule:

Avoid Conflict: Before the beginning of the game, roll a D6. On a 4+ the battle has been avoided because the Reasonable Marine's Chapter Master has negotiated a truce with the enemy...

That should lead to some epic nerdrage...

Or just make a model that looks like me, that ALWAYS causes nerdrage...for /tg/ at least...

>>1473346
I'm looking froward to my new career as a GW writer, I'm sure to reach CEO statues within the year

>>1473861
Now THAT would be great. And it's easy to do as well

RM's poorly-translated Latin motto: Jugiter Prodeo Consequens.

Undoubtedly Inaccurate Transliteration: To perpetually advance in accordance with reason.

Reasonable Marines operate with efficiency. They fulfill their orders and fight valorously and without hesitation, unless they see a more sensible solution that can fulfill the same goals. They always prefer to force a surrender rather than routing the enemy, and take prisoners to interrogate them humanely and use as bargaining chips. It's not so much that they don't like to fight as it is that they're not bloodthirsty - they understand that fighting puts their own in harm's way and is detrimental to their cause due to its great expense.

Seeking vision without prejudice, yet understanding that this ideal may be unattainable, the most important thing to them is to successfully serve the true interests of the Imperium. If this involves negotiating with or even protecting xenos, then that is what they will do.

Heroism and a thirst for glory are frowned upon in their ranks, as they are wasteful of personnel and other resources, and perpetuate the conflict. They wish to create a stable end to the war with mankind in a comfortable and free position. Victory is their goal only insofar as a civilization vanquished in this conflict is sure to be subjugated or annihilated.

In battle, they employ sophisticated and highly coordinated group tactics not commonly associated with normal space marines. Their armor is painted to blend into their environment in order to limit visibility (maybe camouflaged in multiple spectra so that, for example, their heat signature is harder to detect). No matter how cool it looks, a Reasonable Marine still needs to request permission from their commanding officer to carry nonstandard equipment into battle, and must justify this in a way that demonstrates its effectiveness in combat.

One of their mottos is Sun-Tzu's saying, "For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill."

>>1473003

Awesome, I just got the mental image of a Reasonable Marine sitting at a bar, drinking a beer with an Alpha Legion Marine while talking about infiltration tactics. I wish I could draw.

Here are some ideas for the RM's

No librarians. Instead They have Intelligence Officers who use powers that aide there allies in battle. They could pass on a preferred enemy bonus or something.

No fast attack. How useful are bikes or paper thin land speeders. Variant army types could replace Fast attack choices. Such as Heavy army variant, 2HQ choices with 2 elite followed by 6 troops and 4 heavy support. Grunt rush, 2 HQ with 3 elite with 9 troop and 3 heavy support.

All infantry are slow and purposeful and never charge.

All enemies defeated in close combat are sent to POW camps were they are treated for wounds, clothed, fed, and debriefed.

>>1474773
Sometimes you need to travel quickly. Just have them advance in rank and focus on surrounding the enemy rather than rushing them. Mobility is how you win wars.

>>1474773
>>All infantry are slow and purposeful and never charge.

no, there are times when being slow it's not the most reasonable course of action

>>1474977

Not true but it does help. so keep fast attack just work on different variants I take it.

>>1475037

All heavy support infantry are slow and purposeful?

In general, The Space Marines should use a covering fire sort of advance. That does mean slow at times, but good cover lets faster movement be possible.

They should use all sorts of combined arms tactics. Have marine squads advance with Land Speeders or other tanks, being provided cover while preventing enemy assault on the large weapons. Attempting to pin enemy troops with suppression fire style combat while waiting for someone, such as another squad or a Land Speeder, to flank them, so on and so forth.

we need a reasonable marine story, or some drawfaggots to get in here

of course the reasonable marines wont allow to enemy to bring equal forces to the battle

>>1470967

Bushes with Tau burst cannon barrels sticking out of them to represent stealth suits.

>>1475191

enemy forces are only allowed half the games points limit

>>1471175

>>1475191

On it.

>>1475287

they wear green but they are on a snow base

facepalm.jpg

>>1475300
Go back to school, you ignorant piece of shit.

>>1475307

Or maybe the US army should.

>>1475287

THE MARINES MARINES

V for vendetta marines!

>>1475310
That doesn't change the fact that you are still an ignorant piece of shit.

>>1475320

The western front was just a side show.

>>1475320

And why does facepalming at troops wearing green in snow make me ignorant exactly?

>>1475323
Many Jews won fabulous prizes in Nazi Germany.

>>1475339

Indeed they did.

>>1475287
Look at the whirlwind...

STHEEL RHEIN

>>1475341
Fascism is actually a leftist phenomenon.

Captain Darren of the 3rd Company was one of the most decorated members of the Reasonable Marines for three reasons: He was a supreme executor of reason and logic, he was a formidable warrior, and he had a certain manner about him that put many non-Astartes at ease. He was massive, well over eight feet, but he perpetually wore a rather mild facial expression improved with a slight smile. His eyes invited conversation from those around him, and unlike many Astartes from their brother legions, he did not attempt to tower over those Xeno/Heretics/Imperials that they bothered to talk to. He stood well outside of their personal space, and nodded politely as they talked, only offering his own input when it was necessary.

As such, Captain Garren possessed the honorific ‘Master of the Deal’, essentially meaning that diplomacy was his forte. He excelled at it, and was greatly respected for his record of avoiding bloodshed when other Astartes would have simply engaged in a ferocious battle.

As such, when the Tau attacked the Imperial colony on the planet Teron I, Garren was chosen as the ideal candidate to reason with them. The Imperial forces in the sector were baying for blood, but the Reasonable Marines were in the lead: the Imperial Guard forces of the XIV ‘Rip and tear’ Doom II (a large planet in the Quake system) regiment had no choice but to defer to the command of the Space Marines.

>>1475358

Facism is actually just a variation of Communism.

Arriving on the planet, the Reasonable Marines ordered the XIV Regiment to garrison the drop zone and absolutely refrain from hostilities unless fired upon. Darren himself took a squad of Marines and requested negotiations from the Tau commander, which was accepted. A half-company of Guardsmen led by the Regimental Colonel Voss accompanied him.

Arriving at the designated meeting zone, the Tau Commander was wearing his Crisis Suit and was accompanied by a squad of similarly suited warriors. Darren inclined his head, and extended his hand to the larger figure:
“I am Captain Darren of the Reasonable Marines, and I come in peace.” The Guardsmen murmured and grumbled seditiously, and some of the Astartes politely requested they keep quiet.
The Tau Commander was taken aback by Darren’s manner, and looked to his personal bodyguard, who raised an arm in a gesture equivalent to a shrug.
“I am Shas’O B’aw, and I welcome you here to Bah’ntowhn, outpost of the Tau Empire.” Darren smiled graciously, though Colonel Voss’ back stiffened at the presumptuousness of this Xeno.
“I respect your claim to this area Shas’O, but I’m afraid this is an Imperial planet. Have you filed the necessary forms to annex an established area of Imperial space?” The Tau seemed confused.
“No…”

>>1475307
JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENED DOESN'T MAKE IT NOT STUPID

>>1475358
NATIONAL "SOCIALIST". Words never lie in the No Spin Zone!

>>1475363
YES YO Are fucking awesome

“Well I am here to help you in this regard. While I have the greatest respect for your race’s right to expand space, surely there is no need for aggression in doing so? There are unclaimed planets in the area, it isn’t necessary for you to attack an Imperial planet.”
“Well…”
“I am willing to overlook your intrusion into this area and supply you with anything you need as recompense for the effort it must have taken to control this outpost. I however must request that you leave for now.: if you still desire to take control of this planet I will forward the necessary papers to the local Departmento, which will be forwarded to the system Administratum, which will be forwarded to the Imperial Administratum, and I will have the necessary forms you must sign to request the forms for annexation of an Imperial planet within the decade. Is this acceptable?”
“Gu’ela… you do realise we Tau are not as long-lived as your race, right?”
“I do, and you have my sincere condolences.”

Only a few days later, completely baffled by the willingness of Darren and his Astartes to help at every opportunity, the Tau vacated Teron I and the Reasonable Marines helped rebuild the damage done. The locals were simply thankful further destruction was avoided.

Colonel Voss filed a formal complaint to the local Departmento in regards to what he saw as treason by Darren in bargaining with a Xeno, but was not willing to wait for a response. Accompanied by a company of his men, he challenged Darren to a duel. Darren politely accepted, and offered to make things fair by allowing Voss to choose nine men to assist him during the duel.

None of the ten men survived. The Reasonable Marines are suckers for such gentlemanly acts of violence.

>>1475376
yay reasonable marines rock

Is this what you were looking for, /tg/?

>>1475366
2/10

The Reasonable Marines seem TOO reasonable.

reasonable marines alignment neutral good?

>>1475367
>>Doom II (a large planet in the Quake system)

I lol'd.

>>1475376
Wait wait...so it means the Reasonable Marines kicked Voss's ass?

reasonable marines are the best weapon against chaos

>>1475444

Looks like it.

>>1473343

Why not these three too ?

There was some awsome writefaggotry about an independent necron lord a while back, an nid mind could isolated by <SCIENCE> and orks are orks nothins is forbidden to orks.

>>1474773
They don't charge the enemy, they charge into cover to advance.

>>1475423
Basically. Therein lies the joke.

>>1474430
That's pretty much the Reasonable Marines in a nutshell

>>1471895

Fuckin n00b. And fuck GW for not putting fluff in codexes anymore.

need moar writefagging about reasonable marines

Reconsider the marines list. Everybody and their dick plays fucking marines. Do furry Tau with extra wapanese aspects or something, please.

oh serious go to a sister of battle cathedral and confess ur sins

yiff in hell furry >>1476120

>>1476147
In my estimation, this man has a higher brain functions than you. The point was:
>What could I do that would produce the largest amount of nerdrage among neckbeards

You utter waste of human life, kill yourself.

>>1475506
I approve. This is infinitely reasonable, and totally nerdragey.

>>1476165

I feel you should be aware that by selecting an Angry Marine for the image, that's an automatic declaration that the associated text is going to be raging, poorly typed, and very much unreasonable. The troll, opening wide for its expected food, instead takes a Powerfoot to the mouth for 2d6 wounds, no save.

>>1476165
>>1476271

Shut it, both of you. Nobody cares about your faggoty battle of wits.

>>1475497
just btw. The Necron Lord still served the C'tan and hated the other races. He regretted him and his race becoming the Necrons, but he still did his job.

A few ideas...

*Space Marines. Paint them tan with turquoise accents. Tell your opponent that they defected to the Tau.

*Or as above with Orks. Would be VERY hard to do with a straight face.

*Alternately, reverse the trend... Tau that "count as Space Marines" because they decided to serve the emperor. Wait for the so-called "serious players'" heads to explode in rage.

*Chaos Space Marines. When asked for their patron god, say "Malcantet", or "Grazzt", or to be less subtle, "Hextor". Then launch into an explanation of how the Warhammer world was once the world of D&D... shitstorm guaranteed.

>>1471734
HAHA OH FUCKING WOW!

>>1476120

fucking pointless as we decided on Reasonable marines fucking hours ago.

>>*Chaos Space Marines. When asked for their patron god, say "Malcantet", or "Grazzt", or to be less subtle, "Hextor". Then launch into an explanation of how the Warhammer world was once the world of D&D... shitstorm guaranteed.

This would be pretty funny, I have to admit

>>1472885
I like this:D

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

i like my pink space marines

reasonable marines

So how about we work out their army list? It should be:

-Pure Space Marine for now
-Shooty
-Make use of combined arms tactics

maybe increase range of bolters for them

Marines aren't nearly as customizable as IG, unless the 5th edition codex changes some things...