>>25064626

Not sure if troll. You guys both sound a tad dickheaded

>DM picks Skyworld
>you didn't kit your character in a way that makes sense

Not sure what you were thinking, here.

I think the logic behind it would be that, he didn't want to cripple himself by having to invest everything into a single survival mechanic.
Just my 0.02

>>25064650
Maybe he was thinking "maybe today [insert GM's name here] won't be a dick today!"

>>25064650
He also didn't need to have six pirates all ignore every other target, and only focus on throwing me overboard.

I tried to save myself via a Rope tied to the rail, but he just had the pirates cut that.

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>>25064626
>That guy/That DM thread!
It's certainly ONE of those things...

>Party is fighting BBEG in a cave, he's completely out of their league
>One party member comes up with a plan
>He uses explosives to destroy the ceiling, creating a cave-in to kill everyone
>Other party members point this out to him
>"Don't worry, we'll just tell the angels in heaven that they need to resurrect us because we're too important"

>Proceeds to tell me I can't use the Advance Race manual "Build a Creature" section.
Fair enough, especially considering kobolds ARE ALREADY STATTED FOR PCs.
>Call him out on letting his GF use it because she had to be some special race she made up.
Okay yeah, he's a douche.
>DM tells me to stop ruining his game.
He's right, you're a douche too.

You both suck. Fuck off.

If it's a skyworld fall protection should be quite commonplace, standard even. One would think it would logically be much cheaper.

>>25064684
Well... he should have had some way to save himself. I'm guessing this wasn't a level 1 start since people had access to fly. So a ring/ a few potions of feather fall would hardly break the bank. For christ's sake a feather fall potion is only 50gp

>>25064728
Yeah, but not him. According to him, the prices don't change because that would break the rules.

>>25064684
>>25064697

No, but seriously, if your character is coming from this Skyworld, wouldn't it make sense for your character to prepare for a (very) likely scenario?

I'm finding it hard to disagree with your DM here. Especially since you apparently spent your gold on better arms and weaponry, indicating to the pirates that you were a larger threat than the rest of your party.

>>25064626
>Call him out on letting his GF use it because she had to be some special race she made up.
>Tells me to fuck off and make a different character.
What a fag.

>>25064728
It's already on 50 gp for a feather fall potion, and his team could cast fly and get him. It already IS cheap and this guy didn't do the logical thing for a citizen of that world to do.

Yeah it sucks the DM's gf got to use the race builder and you didn't, but you're just an asshole.

>>25064746
It's a little much when there's a Wizard throwing grease and lightning, a raging Barbarian, and a Oh So Holy Paladin beating the shit out of them, but they stop all that jsut to throw the one guy who DOESN'T have the amulet of slowfall off the baot.

>>25064777
>It's okay for the DM to single out people who don't adhere to his world by buying copious amounts of slowfall potions.

>>25064807

He only needed one, but apparently refused to do it.

>>25064807

What idiot plays a sky level in Mario 64 without a wingcap??

>>25064849

This. OP is a retard, and his GM was probably just sick of his shit.

>>25064777
>and his team could cast fly and get him.
You would need to be able to teleport and quickcast Fly to pull that off.

>>25064862
>Not just jumping off the boat after him, casting Fly [with successful concentration check], while playing "Flash Gordon" from your iPhone, and then carrying him back up.

>>25064849
the guy that solos tomb of horrors from memory with out a torch

>>25065233
Holy space-Jesus that is metal.

>> start of game the entire party is chained together by one long strand of magical chain that does -10 strength when binding a living creature.
>> DM thinks we are going to run around the room till we chained together to find key, nope, entire party combines strength check and we break free and have two pieces of magic chain one of which the party wizard takes and the other the rogue takes.
>> After escape and adventure, the wizard sells his piece but the rogue keeps it. wizard buys mysterious magic scroll. was a magic contract that enslaves whoever blood is willing smeared onto paper.
>>spends 3 sessions trying to trick players into being his slave. no one buys into it.
>> rogue offers to buy it for more than wizard did. (lol wut right)
>>One day The DM wants to see what we do when fighting an Ogre. This ogre has made his home underneath a crag on the side of a mountain.
>> in comes rogue that convinces the party to have the wizard lure out the ogre with a magical distraction and then back pedal away after the rogue climbs on top of the crag for an ambush.
>> entire party and DM thinks he is going to throws some fused grenades he bought from a mysterious traveling merchant from the far east. (nope lol)
>> ogre is lured out of crag and the rogue jumps from the crag, dumb founding everyone, with the fucking chain spread out and catches it around its neck while the rogue is hanging on for dear life on the back of this monster that now has -10 in strength and can't break the chain or seem to hit the rogue.
>>the rogue then yells to the party not to attack it, and out of simply curiosity everyone sits back while he rolls a diplomacy check and gets a Nat 20 and says to the ogre " your strength has been drained swear an oath of fealty to me and my companion will not kill you, give but a drop of your blood willingly and you shall live."
>> DM lets it go thinking that was cleverly done and we now have a slave ogre. DM is later pissed cause ogre is always solution.

>>25065263
he exists only to make you cri-inge

>>25065318
Shrek bless us, every one.

>>25065318
kill the ogre and get a gray render

>Suite-mate asks me if I want to play in a 3.5 game that he's planning to run.
>I jump at the chance, because I haven't played in a while.
>Pretty much every nerdy guy on my floor is playing.
>That's like eight people.
>I'm playing a factotum because I want ALL THE SKILLS.
>Some other dude, who I swear looks like that macro we use for the pizza-faced neckbeard, wants to play a 14-year old elf.
>I say, "Don't elves only reach maturity when they're like sixty or something? This elf's, like, a toddler still."
>Dude insists on forcing his pedophilic character on the game.

God damn it.

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>>25064807
>OK Players, it's time for an underwater adventure! I'd suggest merpeople or spellcasters with-
>Desert Kobold Fighter.
>...But...You...
>Desert. Kobold. Fighter.
Minutes later.
>Aw, what?! The kraken drowned me? You suck, DM.

>MFW

>>25065318
>Approach city with ogre slave
>City guards flip shit
>Ballista arrows rain down
>Ogre dead

>>25064777
>slowfall
>in a skyworld

Slowfall is not enough, because there's only two ways that shit can turn out:

1. He falls forever through the endless sky this world is composed of.
2. He falls all the fucking way down to earth, with no way to reach his companions or get back to them anytime soon.

Both of these suck, so GMs that run a campaign IN THE FUCKING SKY should maybe make flight more accessible/cheap. Maybe just some kind of safety harness that activates only when falling and flies you automatically back to the ship it's attuned to. Bam. Instant fucking solution, nobody gets fucked over, everyone is happy.

>>25064626
Your DM sounds like a dickhole. I wouldn't play with that guy. He sounds like he's not much fun, and he sounds like he's taken a specific dislike to you in particular. Though you definitely should acknowledge your own role in riling him up further once he's already gotten going. I'd still do the same if I was you though.

>>25065318
>>also just to note entire party loved ogre named him grum, gave him magical items to make him smarter and stronger, let him eat our enemies after we looted them and eventually saved up enough to put him in full plate armor with a giant magic club of freezing.
>>rogue decided that he would listen to DM that grum was to powerful and left him in the cave system we cleared out and renovated as our pad and was going to make him perma gaurd.
>> DM kills grum when random super dragon hears about our wealth (nope spent it all on grum and renovations) comes in to cave and kills him.
>>the rogue might have been a little that guyish with the ogre but it was only for two sessions and he outright told the DM he wasn't going to use grum that much anymore
>> DM kills him anyway because he planned grums death by dragon after the last session of us kicking ass with grum.

>>25065451
If my DM did that specifically, I'd call him a dick.
Granted, I'd probably not bring the ogre into the city in the first place

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>>25065479
>>25065367
There are basically two ways you can go about this. Either you tell the players straight up front that these are the rules and setting, sky pirates are badasses who brave the sky, and falling down is just a working hazard. Reach high enough level doing this crazy ass job, and you can write your own legend. To make players less cranky you can add exp, since falling to your death is pretty much a save-or-die and those arent supposed to show up before CR 7-8. Alt 2, respect the poor players, whose hand you must hold. Make flying free and easily available so that they dont piss their diapers in fear.

From my point of view, all players went into this game well aware of the circumstances. To whine about dying because you didn't prepare is very That Guy.

>>25065536
That seems a bit extreme, DM should've waited at least one more session just to make sure the rogue was being honest or let them bring the ogre and make the encounters harder.

>>25065568
>Make flying free and easily available so that they dont piss their diapers in fear

How about "Flying is our main mode of transportation, maybe add some basic and sensible safety precautions". Even fucking pirate ships had life boats.

If a GM runs a game in a specific and hazardous setting, I'd assume that a decent GM either has some fucking way in place for common people to survive or maybe just doesn't use the setting itself to kill us all at every turn. I'm all for challenging campaigns, but this is just ridiculous.

>>25065451
never took ogre to city though entire city knew we had some giant creature when we bought giant armor also rogue tried his best to disguise it when going out, didn't really work well but we hung a sign around him that said "I''m a good guy" front and back

>>25065533
>>25064626
The DM may sound like a douche about the race thing, but from my experience, womyn are prone to play "who gives a shit about their powerlevel" characters, who rarely can take care of themselves in combat and instead roleplay. If one of my prime RP-fags or girl players wanted to play a minotaur I wouldn't give a shit. If my powergamer wants to play a kobold, or even mention advanced race guide, my alarm goes off real good.

With OP's description so far, it sounds like he falls into the "dm wont let him play anything that can be abused"

>>25065568
There's really no way to justify it one way or the other since the only person who knows about the scenario is OP. Yes, OP should probably have bought some type of slowfall something. Yes, in a Skyworld it would make sense that these things are commonplace, and thusly, cheaper than normal.

That said, if what OP said is true about 6 pirates throwing him over the edge while being attacked by and ignoring the other players, the DM really went out of his way to kill him in a very extreme fashion. But, OP did pick at the DM a bit by being disguised as a Kobold just to kinda spite the DM. There's a lot of things at fault here.

>>25065605
Its all about social contract. If the DM hands out bonus exp and gives them credit for being awesome, then its a great campaign. Not everyone wants to fight goblins for the rest of their carreer. Some people want to play beowulf, and then the risk of death is quite high. But that all runs down to if the players agreed on it or not.
If my players come to me and ask for "a great, dangerous campaign, where everyone sees us as heroes", then I might run a campaign in the sky.

As for flying magic and lifeboats, that is all about tone. Flying magic is still expensive. Either keep it a challenging campaign, or make flying cheap, its all about what the PLAYERS want.

>>25065648
That is true, odds are, both op and DM had their reasons and faults. OP was probably annoying, and DM was probably acting out in frustration. A very bad trait for a DM, since killing someones characters is not a good way to mend fences or improve a situation

>>25065586
yeah some of us got permission from DM to spend our skill points to teach him languages and how to write them.
we were trying to civilize him and get him to only eat cows.... though we spent so much on weapons and stuff we gave up and let him eat the corpses of our enemies cause we couldn't afford a livestock ranch just for him also at the time.

>>25065672
>>25065586
I agree with you, bit douchy to kill the ogre. It is a common mistake all DM's learn from, however. You want to kill a NPC to set the tone, or for an awesome twist, yet you forget how much players attach to them. Hopefully he learned a lesson there.

>>25065607
>Walk into Order of Paladins dressed in full pitch black platemail, with a horned helmet with complete facial obscuring, with a large red cape and skull insignias everywhere.
>Have a tabard on that says "I'm Lawful Good, quit asking"

>>25064626
>I refused to invest the insane amount of gold into it.

If it's a sky world, wouldn't all safety systems from falling be dirt cheap? I mean, over the years certainly wizards and engineers would have invested much of their time and money to make cheaper, more effective safety measures, right?

>>25064833

I think it's kinda obvious that even if he had kitted himself out with literally all the flying gear in the world, the GM would just have gone "nope, doesn't work" anyway.

>>25065710
yeah i know sign didn't help much as DM kept wanting to kill grum but there was not much we could do. we kept trying to get the rogue to dump all his skill points as he leveled in disguise and we would work to getting disguise kits. but the rogue kept saying what are we going to disguise a giant ogre as anyways.

>>25065672
That sucks even harder then if you spent your own skill points on him. I would have been pissed.

>>25065783
That is a fair point though, ogres are what? 10 feet tall minimum? Not very many things are that big that could walk around a town without raising suspicion. Even if it was a magical disguise he'd be bangin his head on everything and taking up lots of space.

That said, poor Grum.

it was a good point, but we thought if the rogues disguise was good enough, no one would break it. Druid of party suggested disguising grum as a is treant familiar which most of party liked but the rogue was stuborn saying "why the hell would a treant have full plate mail on" while we kept saying we would disguise that as well.

>>25065352
oh my just looked back and saw this comment and reminded me of the first fight we had with grum where the rogue riding on shoulder rampaged grum into party of zombies while rogue yelled "it's shreking time"
most of us laughed

It's kinda dumb, yeah.

I made my sky world campaign use tokens of feather fall as currency. No falling damage as long as you weren't broke.

'course, it's not the ground that kills you, it's the ravenous mindless killing monsters on the surface that does it if you don't have friends to pick you up.

>>25064777
>Yeah it sucks the DM's gf got to use the race builder and you didn't, but you're just an asshole.
How is OP an asshole? Because he's not in a relationship with his DM?

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>>25069791
Not captain trips there, but I think he meant OP was jerk for not taking the same precautions as the rest of the team. Imagine it was a trek across a wasteland and everyone else bought extra food and OP bought other cool stuff. Then the DM has the raiders attack and they get the food stores. All everyone has is their own food. OP is now an asshole he could have prepared, but chose not to. But the fact that OP was singled out to be tossed overboad and that being kobold = ruining the game makes me think additional things are going on. Pic is my take on it.

D&D 3.5, That DM and my Paladin

>DM is a badass motherfucker, campaign totally improvised with his brain's bullshit
>My paladin is the leader of group, others: bard (NE), barbarian (CE), rogue (N). All humans. Paladin was a little idiot lol Talking to barbarian like Flanders and Homer
>A quest: Assault comunist-medieval-punks campament and kill them all to save the society.
>After the battle I found some crop fields with (Roll Knowlegde. High result but DM wanna fuck me so) estrange black onions (they were opium).
>Later I find a poor boy. DM: Hurrdurr You are a Paladin, help him or lose your power.
>I give him all my money, and I have to accept him like my shield bearer, his name is Chicken.
>During other session, Bard convinces Barbarian to sell Chicken as slave. Paladin fight Barbarian and win, then leave the group because "They are bad people"
>Travel alone with Chicken, he has "lost" all us money (DM out of game: Chicken spent the money un oldmen to violate his childish asshole ERGO Chicken is evil ERGO you will lose your power very soon)
>Chicken have angry, I only have an onion. Paladin thinks it only an onion so give to Chicken and, obiously, Chicken dies by overdose while Paladin try save him with heal power.
>All players LOL. DM fuuuuu wants remove my Paladin's power, but "Hey, my character thinks there was only an onion, you said it another day". Accidents aren't evil acts so fuck you master
>All members of the party thought I did well so here the DM did not dare take my powers. Next session, my paladin is affect by a strange disease.
>I: Hey, Palads are inmune to diseases, even magic ones like licans or zombiebites.
>DM: Well... this is a mental disease, the book tell nothing about that so... your paladin think that he is "psychological pregnancy"
>At the session's end my paladin dies "giving birth" tones of shit, he was melted in shit, by "mental disease only"

That DM is worst when I dming and he is that guy. Finally I said he gtfo

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>>25070625
>DM is a badass motherfucker, campaign totally improvised with his brain's bullshit
>badass motherfucker

You are not using this phrase correctly. pic related

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>>25070993
Nope, I know what I said. pic related

>>25071130
Ok. Then please explain how herpderping a mental disease & etc because paladin MUST fall is remotely badass. I cannot into

>Campaign focused on 1v1 duels for each PC
>My turn is up
>DM comes up with an enemy that surpasses all what i can do
>Attack npc i miss or fail to even do 1 point in damage
>Npc attacks several times per turn
>You cant escape the fight because you simply can't
>Get killed
>He proceeds to state that if someone deserved to win it was me
>Continues talking about what i should have done to win but all of his suggestions are shit that rulewise can't happen
>asks me what my next character will be
>tell him i decided to grow up and leave

Don't know if i am still mad but i think i'm done with rpgs

>>25071231
Why, it's not like that was even an rpg really, heh.

>>25064788
you were a fighter. you should have bull-rushed the pirates to their death!
also, killing 1 and looting his ammy, since everybody apparently has one.

>Play kobold wizard-necromancer
>The DM made a huge city with tons of stuff to do inside
>Railroads us whenever possible, unable to do the stuff inside the city
>Doesn't like it when I use magic and gives me a shitload of debuffs, still manage to get to level 11 so I can go full lich
>We end up buying a house at one point with a basement
>I employ my mining skill to build a gigantic maze-like warren under it to hide my gold and phylactery
>Fill the warren up with horrifying traps that use up most of my gold, summon other monsters to protect me
>Basically impenetrable
>DM doesn't like that one bit
>keeps trying to send people into my warrens to destroy my phylactery
>They don't even make it halfway most time
>Get kicked out of the game after the sixth or so time he tried to destroy my phylactery for "Ruining the game"
meh.

>>25071870
Unless you were using your phylactery all the time to shrug off all his challenges, that is pants on head stupid That DM behavior. "You have x and I hate it so now the game is about me destroying x. You are a bad player for making the game about you and x. gtfo."
Had a player want to make a lich once, and it seemed pretty gamebreaking so I just threw obstacles at his efforts until we approached the climax of the story. He became a lich and helped the other PCs be big damn heros. Although, he was pretty much the greatest potential evil threat left after that. Would have been the next BBEG if we played that world again. Point is, his goal affected the game, but did not disrupt it.

>>25072033
I tried to be helpful though, i'd throw myself in front of deathblows to my party members seeing as I could just revive myself later.

>>25072916
Use .png for screencaps.

The image is too wide too.

>>25071870
Dude, the DM should have just used you as the Big Bad for another party. Shit could have been so cash.

>running a DH one-shot
>party is a group of experts pulled from random planet by Inquisitorial mandate
>have to go retrieve a relic from a ship malfunctioning on system edge
>arrive on ship, whole thing has gone to shit
>has been phasing in and out of the warp with a malfunctioning gellar field
>retrieve relic, shut down warp drive and gellar field
>Chaos ship in system, boarding parties in-bound
>party has to hole up and wait for reinforcements
>have a long fight, culminates with CSM
>rescued by an Inquisitorial ship
>once relic is handed over, party is executed for seeing shit man was not meant to see

Would running this as above make me That DM? They ended up having a schism, with one party member stealing the relic and trying to defect, everyone dying in the resulting fight.

If everyone in skyworld has protecton from falling why do people keep trying to throw each other off high things?

>>25072916
I love reading stories like this.

>Playing a sci-fi GURPS game
>Playing a starship mechanic on the crew of a pirate frigate

>We find this weird casket-like object drifting in space
>We start fooling around with it
>Find out that putting objects into it causes them to transform into weird alien tech
>One of the PCs, the captain, decides that this thing is too dangerous to keep on the ship and too hot to sell, I forget why exactly, so he wants to just space it and carry on with our lives
>We take it to the cargo hold
>"We suit up and start depressurizing the hold."
>GM is like "You can't."
>"Why? There's no way to vent atmo before opening the cargo doors?"
>GM: "No."
>"Okay, fine, we just open them then."
>GM: "Make strength checks to avoid being sucked out into space, also you lose half your cargo as it's sucked out of the doors."
>"None of the cargo is lashed down securely?"
>GM: "No."
>I ask if there are any places to hold on and avoid getting pulled out, or if having 4 arms gives me any kind of bonus for keeping my grip on something
>He says no, there are no handholds anywhere on the interior of the cargo hold of a starship, and having 4 hands gives me no bonus whatsoever
>Whatever, I make the roll anyway
>The GM tells us that half our shit blows out the doors and the casket doesn't move an inch
>"We push it out, then."
>GM: "It's too heavy."
>Too heavy
>In space
>When all of our other heavy crap just blows away like a leaf on the wind

To be fair, the guy playing the ship's captain and I were being a bit That Guy ourselves (The GM wouldn't let us do ANYTHING, including actually act like space pirates), but Jesus that game was awful.

>>25074189
Punch your GM in the dick, cuz that's a heaping helping of bullshit.

>>25073466
He might have, and he might have not.
I haven't gamed with him since but I found a new group that i'll be trying out next week.

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>Playing GURPS
>The DM says the game theme is "African Mercenaries"
>Ohshitnigga.jpg
>Decide to make a Chinese refugee turned mercenary to pay for a ticket out of Africa and to get the rest of his family to safety
>Everyone shows up with other cool character concepts
>A blind Russian demolitions expert, part time drug-dealer
>An Italian gun-runner, wanted in several countries
>And finally an African civilian caught in the wrong place at the wrong time who is now wanted by the African military for killing their President
>Ten minuets into the game we encounter a man in a top hat
>The DM railroads us into following him
>We're suddenly in space
>Shoot the man in the top hat in the face and scalp him with my machete
>DM then rage quits and tells us to grow up

>>25074752
>African mercs
>Immediately launches everyone into space

What

>>25065615
Sexism detected

>>25065760
Good point, there are magic items in MIC and the like that do it dirt cheap, the DM Must have banned them though to fuck fighters because he is a dick.

>>25064626
Ignore the spergs who think "in every argument both sides are always wrong".
That DM is clearly a douche and you did nothing wrong.

>>25074189
It's clearly something that transcends physics or contains something like dark matter. I mean, it makes alien tech.

>>25074752
>We look at the notes the DM left behind
>It was a full on story of what we would have done if we stayed in Africa
>He only sent us to space because he was reading some GURPS space books or something
>The DM refuses to try and do the African story because it isn't cool enough

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>>25074189
>Push it to the cargo hold
>But you can't push it into space
>it also doesn't get sucked into space when the cargo doors open

>>25073481
>see title
HELL FUCKING NO!

>>25074807
That was just the incident I remember best from the long series of bullshit we had to deal with.

Such as limb prosthesis technology being nonexistent when every time we took a hit to a limb it was blown completely off (guy didn't understand the damage rules and wouldn't listen to reason).

And this one time we found an abandoned asteroid base, and wanted to use it as a secret hideout, but there was another of those weird alien things sitting on top of the base's reactor draining ALL of the power away from it, and we couldn't remove it while it was receiving power. So I say I'll just use my laser pistol to cut one of the power cables that he described as sitting in plain view on the side of the reactor, and he tells me if I do that it will destroy the base even though I have all fucking day to take my time and cut the thing off like a surgeon.

And so many other times we wanted to do something like use a HEAT warhead swiped from an armory to kill the defenders inside a small room, or just attack whatever ship we damn well pleased because we were fucking pirates, and the answer was just no, you can't because X.

>>25070625
>Travel alone with Chicken, he has "lost" all us money (DM out of game: Chicken spent the money un oldmen to violate his childish asshole ERGO Chicken is evil ERGO you will lose your power very soon)
>Child is evil, for hiring an old man prostitute to rape him
>And your paladin falls because DM forced you to make the child your charity case
And you kept playing with that sperg?

>>25071231
>1v1 duels
>no escape
>RPG
That is not an RPG

>>25073703
Should've done a test of faith, try them for heresy. Those that passed (as they ARE working for the inquisition) would've been commended for their bravery. Those that didn't get blam'd.

>>25070625
What the fuck did I just read. That was like a trip into the mind of an autistic man.

>Playing SoF
>Custom setting GM came up with in a Fever Dream
>Entire World is a tree
>Everything is magitech or powered by occult circuitry
>BBEG is a crazy mannequin obssessed with "true magic" and wanting to burn the tree down
>Everything is mutated in some form or another. There are bird people, pirahna people, gecko people, etc.
>Everything around us ends up exploding

And then there's the a big session we had a month ago!

>Party splits up
>Two members end up hijacking a blimp and infiltrating a town-sized airship, piloted by the city sheriff who has gone insane and started firing on the town
>The other half of the party is running through the town, trying to stop the BBEG from enacting his plans
>Get there too late, BBEG sets ENTIRE CITY on fire
>Other PCs crash airship into burning city, making the fire larger
>Try to save what people I can and escape

MAYBE we could have done this better, but I am absolutely sick of my GM's Michal Bay-fueled explosion and deconstruction fetishes. It's like he gets off to high-intensity action.

>>25073703

That's the way that universe works, Grimdarkest of grimdark.

Make sure to warn them of the grimdark first.

>>25065770
That's not obvious at all, and in fact I believe the opposite to be true.

>>25073703

Nah that's how a good DH is meant to go

>>25074785

Well, he's most likely correct. Only those in possession of great manes of hair beneath their extravagant cheeks tends toward identifying fun with "If I can't kill everyone else in the party on my own, the character is underpowered"

>>25075360
That sounds god damn amazing and you're a pizza shit.

>>25075360

What an asshole

>>25065615

>If my powergamer wants to play a kobold

Assuming we're talking about Pathfinder with no 3.5 crossover, this is nonsensical. Baseline Kobolds are objectively one of the worst non-standard playable races in that system.

>>25073481
Not sure if I believe it, especially the part about losing his fiancee due to her believing his uttery crazy stalker's claims of cheating.
Nor the ridiculous behavior attributed to the police.

>>25075860
I play a kobold wizard but i'm completely average in every way. That wont stop me from making a dragonwrought sorcerer if we ever do a "silly" game

>>25070625
Your DM is not a badass. HERP DERP UNDERAGE BUTTSECKS is not badass. It's not even remotely sane.

>>25071231
Your DM was a dumbass. Don't let dipshits like him ruin the hobby for you.

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LET ME TELL YOU A TALE, TG.

>Playing Agents of Oblivion (Savage Worlds)
>Last mission was a high stakes hostage mission being filmed on national TV
>It didn’t go so well. Majority of terrorists escaped, penthouse suite blew up, etc.
>However, the party looted a magical painting while on the mission
>Back at safe house, one party member (Navajo Shapeshifter) takes a liking to the painting
>Puts it up in his room.
>Orders a replica painting online, gets it shipped for a nearby PO Office using the most expensive and quick method of transport… I see where this is going.
>Player decides that he is going to steal the painting.
>That night, has a strange dream involving the American Southwest and evil witches
>Decides to steal the painting.
>Early in the morning, he sneaks into another party member’s room (the leader’s room) to put him to magical sleep.
>Sleeping player rolls a raise on notice, rolls out of bed with gun drawn.
>Leader is a paranoid conspiracy theorist, so this makes sense.
>Navajo shapeshifter says: “NO BRO ITS COOL JUST LOOKING FOR AN EXTRA BLANKET”
>Leader: “… We have a linen closet, you know.”
>Okay.jpg

>Wakes up at 6am.
>Wanders out of room, notices another player is awake.
>Other player is a Spanish psionic watching football because time zones.
>Spanish Psionic: “Whatcha doing?”
>Navajo: “Going for a walk.”
>Spanish Psionic: “… k.”

>>25076626

>In his room, Navajo puts painting outside through window onto fire escape.
>Walks out the front door.
>Picks up painting outside…
>He peels the painting out of its frame, folds it up and stuffs it in his pocket.
>The painting is an original copy from 1490.
>Leaves frame on fire escape.
>Notices frame has hidden occult protective runes, ignores it.
>Wanders outside, jumps into a bush in order to transform into a dog.
>Note: City is on lockdown due to terrorist attack. I mentioned this last session. I rolled police notice.
>Hit and raise. Neat.

>Meanwhile, Spanish Psionic checks out his room.
>Everything checks out.
>No painting on the wall, but Psionic doesn’t know it should be there.

>Two police officers pull up in a police cruiser.
>Ask Navajo why he jumped into a bush.
>Still in bush, Navajo narrates how he hides the painting in the bush. This is important.
>”I’m just looking for my dog.”
>”What is your dog’s name?”
>”I don’t know. It isn’t actually my dog. It belongs to one of my neighbours.”
>”… Do you know who the dog belongs to?”

>>25076641

>”No idea.”
>”… Can we see some identification, sir?”
>Player pulls out identification from last night.
>Identification indicates that he is an FBI agent.
>Police completely puzzled.
>”Please hang on while we verify your credentials, sir.”
>Navajo: “EXCUSE ME GENTLEMEN BUT IF YOU ARE NOT DETAINING ME I AM LEAVING NOW.”
>”Sir… just… hang on.”
>Dispatch verifies his identity.
>”Sir… why were you diving into bushes at 6 am in the morning?”
>”CLASSIFIED.”

>Player goes down to PO Box, gets replica painting, goes back home and puts replica painting into the frame.
>Sneaks back through the fire escape into his open window, puts the painting up on display.
>Remembers that he left the authentic painting in the bush back on the street!
>Checks bush.
>THE PAINTING ISN’T THERE.
>Panic.jpg
>Instead of calling the police, he runs to the nearest police precinct.
>Demands that Desk Sagant put him on phone with two beat cops who interrupted him.
>”WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PAINTING?”
>”We checked out the bush after you left, just to be sure, sir.”
>”We found what appeared to be a crumpled up piece of garbage.” [1 on notice check]
>”We threw it out.”
>Navajo flips out. “WHERE?”
>”The garbage bin in the back, sir. Littering is a serious offense.”
>Player runs back to the garbage bin near the party’s safe house.

>>25065367
I read that as "time for an underwear adventure".

It was far more exciting that way.

>>25076654

>Gm rolls for whether or not the garbage truck showed up that day.
>Rolled 1d6, if 1, they would show
>Bam, a 1.
>Navajo gets furious OOC.
>GM, this is unfair, I demand a redo.
>Okay! I’ll roll a d8 for the week. If 8, we reroll. What number is today, player?”
>Navajo: SIX.
>GM rolls…
>Six.
>GM showed all of the rolls he made, so no cheating.
>”Wow, look at that. A 1/48 chance of that happening.”

>Navajo passes notice check, see garbage truck driving away down street.
>Runs after it with all of his aboriginal agility.
>Actually catches up to the garbage truck, flashing his FBI ID.
>”HALT, NOW.”
>Garbage: “What’s up?”
>”THERE ARE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IN THE BACK OF YOUR TRUCK.”
>”… Why are they in the garbage, sir?”
>”GIVE ME YOUR GLOVES, I’M GOING IN.”
>Garbage man undoes trash compactor, revealing a horrid garbage mess.
>Fails hard notice check, only finds a shred of the painting
>Navajo orders them to drive him down to the main office to complain to the manager
>Once they arrive, Navajo complains and demands to check through the garbage.
>Garbage truck dumps load onto parking lot, as per FBI orders, so Navajo can look through.

>>25076668

>Meanwhile, back at base, everyone is waking up.
>Spanish psionic and leader of group watching football.
>Leader mentions that the painting is going to be picked up today, HQ will give details.
>Spanish psionic asks where the painting is.
>Leader says: “Navajo’s room.”
>Spanish psionic: [Worrying Intensifies]
>Spanish psionic runs to Navajo’s room, finds painting on the wall.
>That wasn’t… there before.
>Casts Detect Arcana.
>”LEADER! THE PAINTING IS NOT MAGICAL, REPEAT, NOT MAGICAL.”
>Leader: “Oh shit. Where’s Navajo?”
>Navajo missing. Painting missing. Window still open, letting cold air in.
>Wakes every party member, organizes meeting.
>Better call the Navajo on his cellphone…

>Leader sets Navajo onto speakerphone.
>Leader: “Navajo. Where is the painting?”
>Navajo: “IT WAS STOLEN. I FOUND IT IN THE GARBAGE.”
>Party: “really.”
>Navajo: “YES. COME PICK ME UP.”
>Party: “Where?”
>Navajo: “… THE YMCA HOTEL NEARBY.”
>Navajo gets washed, party members get ready to pick him up.
>Navajo returns to safehouse.
>Party leader is mad.
>”What happened? Seriously.”
>”It was a thief, I swear.”
>Spanish psionic uses Detect Arcana again, finds shred of painting in Navajo’s pocket.
>”JIG’S UP, BRO.”
>Navajo, unable to weasel his way out of this one, spills the beans.
>He apparently stole the painting because he feels connected to it.
>The painting is a horrible depiction of hell.
>Party: ._. Time to go to the garbage depot!
>Party lines van with plastic lining.

>Party arrives at Garbage Depot. It is lightly raining.
>Compacted garbage pile leaking magic into drain.
>Party works quickly to shove the entire garbage pile into the back of the van.
>Navajo hampers efforts all the way, takes it apart while the rest is trying to keep it intact.
>Ugh. UGH.
>Party drives back to safehouse.
>The party, knowing about his shapeshifting abilities, lock down the apartment.
>Leader keeps Navajo distracted.
>Party Leader: “Okay. Sit in front of the TV.”
>The TV has a webcam for teleconferencing with their boss.
>Navajo: “Why?”
>Party Leader: “You’re going to explain yourself now.”
>Navajo: “UHHHHH I HAVE TO GO TO THE WASHROOM.”
>Spanish Psionic: I go to the adjacent room and keep an eye on the bathroom window .
>Navajo has shapeshifting powers, may turn into a bird to fly away.
>Navajo decides to turn into a fish and swim down the toilet.
>Spanish psionic OOC: Why did you turn into a fish? Don’t you usually turn into a bird?
>Navajo OOC: I felt like doing something different this time.
>Spanish psionic accuses Navajo of metaknowledge. Ugh.

>Party waits…
>Where is Navajo?
>Bust down door. Oh shit, he’s gone.
>Smarts check – must have used to the toilet.
>Team Leader pulls up sewer schematics on computer using Oblivion Support Tech (Jonathan).
>Guides Spanish Psionic to predicted location of Navajo.

>>25076698

>Navajo decides to turn into a bird.
>What kind of bird, Navajo?”
>”Any kind.”
>”Are you sure? It is dark and wet down here.”
>”You’re right, GM. I turn into an owl.”
>”You transform into an owl despite being underwater. You are not very clever.”
>Navajo owl flails around in the sewer shit water.
>Eventually turns into a rat, tries to escape up manhole.

>MEANWHILE…
>Spanish Psionic, with Detect Arcana and Teleport at the ready, moves down to the street…
>Into the sewer…
>… And see the magical rat being trying to climb up a wall.
>Using teleport and quick movement, Spanish psionic grabs rat.
>Teleports rat and himself into safehouse.
>”WE GOT HIM, PARTY.”

>Navajo immediately turns into a hummingbird
>Tries to find a way out.
>Everything’s closed/locked.
>Drops hummingbird form at his room’s door, runs in and opens the window.
>Party intervenes.
>They are weapons-live at this point.
>Meanwhile Oblivion Tech Support Guy is freaking out.
>His webcam is catching this farce.
>Navajo is shot by Gun Specialist, brought down to 2 of 3 wounds.
>He’s shaken.

>>25076710

>Spanish psionic teleports into the room, puts hand on the window and closes it.
>Navajo is surrounded and outarmed.
>When unshaken, Navajo draws his weapon from his desk rest.
>Party gets ready to take this shit down.
>Navajo points gun at his own head.
>”I’m sorry… just let me kill myself… I deserve at least this…”
>Party: No.
>The party launches a three man assault on him.
>The leader (quite obese) body slams the Navajo, disarming him.
>The other two (Spanish psionic and Gun specialist) take him down with non-lethal damage.

>Oblivion retrieves the garbage/painting block from the back of the van.
>Oblivion HQ is actually quite happy with the success of the party –
>Why? The party was suspected to be harbouring a double agent!
>You did it, team. That must have been him.
Nope. The double agent had actually planned to inform his organization of the painting retrieval, give the fake agent the details and go pick it up before the actual Oblivion agent showed up. The double agent, for now, is still safely nestled in the party.

Epilogue:

Navajo Player, OOC walking home with me: I don’t think I’ll be showing up any more. I’d rather hang out with my friends.

>>25076724
That was such a good story.

Also, what a dick.

>>25073703
>Would running this as above make me That DM?
Its a one shot. Who cares? As long as you tell them that up front, all bets are off.

>>25076807

I should apologise, I didn't give that whole long post a read over before I posted it. So many spelling and grammar mistakes...

>>25076662
What would an underwear adventure even be

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>>25077468

>>25077502
I don't understand

>>25077557

Go read or watch Stardust.

>be playing a mythological apocalypse scenario
>started with the rapture, YHVH and all that
>after he's gone, other gods come in to scavenge
>campaign itself finaly starts
>be playing, make an anti-divine spec'd character
>do pretty good, our party manages to kill some gods
>decide to take down YHVH
>start challenging him to come down by hunting down his priests
>DM keeps trying to salvage the plot by warning us
>keeps saying that this is an incredibly bad idea
>not falling for it, manage to kill Metatron
>YHVH finally answers, descends
>aw shit nigga
>he's completely maxed out in all stats
>has a unique sword
>wut
>DM has YHVH blind entire party with some bullshit about a sun face
>DM says he based his appearance off Christ's description in Revelations
>bullshit there is no description of God
>YHVH wipes the entire party with a couple AoE spells while we're blinded
I never played with him again.

>>25077833

Okay, yeah, while your GM wasn't exactly friendly there, what did you expect when going up against a being that's by definition omnipotent and omniscient?

>>25077882
A pretty good shot. Up until then, we had a pretty good body count going. Metatron, Zeus, Ra, Horus, Anubis (we really did a number on Egyptian stuff) and that was only the major ones. The DM whined afterwards that if YHVH himself was going to be a battle, then he would've "stuck around after we rolled our characters."

YHVH had only appeared in the whole pre-game set the story up shit. But it was obvious he was important because with the gods we did talk with, we had pieced together things like that they only came after YHVH because they didn't want to risk a guy with the guy over first dibs.

>>25076641
>valuable painting from 1490
>FOLD IT UP

>>25077833
>GM tells you not to do something stupid
>You do something stupid
>The obvious outcome happens
>WAAAH I'M TAKING MY BALL AND GOING HOME!

>>25065367
If that's your face, I'm willing to have you drown me.

You better roll for will.

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>>25064626
>being told not to play a kobold
Your GM is a mountain of insurmountable oppression. Godspeed brother

>>25078986
Except with the fact that the gods would talk about him, it was obvious he was supposed to be killable.

>>25065536
I miss Grum already

>>25079165
>If someone talks about something I can kill it!
>Take that Lady of Pain!

>>25074189
I think I hear a physicist crying

>>25079295
Rule number one, don't talk about something if you don't ever plan on having it be relevant.

>>25079295
The Lady of Pain doesn't have a stat line. YHVH apparently had the highest possible. If it has stats, it can die

>>25079642
Exactly, DM was just being a bitch.

>>25079753
Hell Cthulhu can be killed in CoC. It's hard, and frustrating, and he'll be back in 10 minutes to just eat you anyway. But he can be killed

>>25079642
Yahweh is statted? Where?

>>25079993
Never mind, read up.

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>>25077833
Revelation Chapter 1 Verse 12-16

12 I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man,[d] dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. 14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. 16 In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

SOMEONE should have read more Christian Theology. You deserved everything the DM gave you. You fought the over-God, who is LITERALLY omnipotent, and lost. Fuck, the DM was generous beyond words for even giving Yahweh a stat block.

>>25080057
and in Exodus (I think) god does say to look on his face will kill/blind

>>25080090
In Christian Theology, God doesn't even have a body. He's an infinite mass of four-dimensional information existing outside of space-time. The whole "Old as fuck Jew on a throne" thing is just a Theophany. A manifestation he uses to speak to us lesser beings. The fact that the DM chose to make Yahweh just be a jewish Over-god instead of His true infinite self, was merciful beyond words.

>>25080057
Seven stars, the big dipper /ursa mayor.
They were truly already dead

To be honest going against the Over God that every single other god feared and expected to win was really naive.

>>25072639

so you did use your phylactery to shrug off his challenges. you are that guy and deserved to be kicked out

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>>25080057
>>25080090
>>25080148
>>25080216
All of this.

God as depicted in every Abrahamic text is so far past anything a human (or other god, they're mentioned in the Bible too) can imagine hoping to achieve that trying to kill him is pants-on-head retarded.

Omnipotent doesn't mean "If you try really, really hard you can kill him", it means all powerful. As in all of the power, ever. And your DM tried to warn you it'd be a TPK, too.

>>25080057
Okay so maybe he does have an appearance, but omnipotent does not mean unbeatable.

>>25080090
We were wearing helmets.

>>25080148
We actually called him out on that. His response was "if he didn't take this form you'd die by looking out him out of inability to comprehend his true form" in effect.

>>25080216
Not every god feared him, they just didn't want to fight him. We ran into Odin and he said there was no point in fighting him and that YHVH had already left and wanted nothing more to do with the world.

>>25080293
Again, omnipotent does not mean unbeatable.

>>25080293
It could be a bluff too. God might have 1's in every stat, but if his bluff is high enough it doesn't matter

>>25080348
How the fuck doesn't omnipotent mean unbeatable.

>>25080348
Omnipotent in the Christian sense, means that God can control all of reality. In Christianity, Yahweh is the Creator who made every atom in reality, and the Sustainer, that is to say, the universe only keeps existing because He continues willing that it exists. If He for even a moment stopped holding reality in being by His own good pleasure, it would fall back into the Nothing from which is was formed.

He is entirely outside the universe, only creating "avatars" by which to speak to us. The only things He cannot change, per the Christian religion, are logic and His own nature. So the only things He can't do are being Evil, be Stupid, or be Illogical.

You don't get it, you weren't even fighting God, you were fighting a finger puppet His infinite Lovecraftian self created to come and bitch at you.

God is infinitely higher and greater then Metatron or Micheal or Odin. As in, the distance between you and the smallest atom, is SMALLER, then the distance between Lucifer [the mightiest of the angels] himself and God Almighty.

>>25080348
Omnipotent AND omniscient. Go ahead and try to kill the proverbial ultraparanoid epic level inmortal archwizard as level 1 fighters with no magic items. That's a piece of cake compared with God's level

>>25080442
>Odin
Now you just fuck right off there, the All-Father is atleast up front with his asshole nature

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>>25080348
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence
You poor, uneducated anon. Here.
>>25080378
>God, as in the God that canonically, in-setting, created everything and then carried out the apocalypse, gets pissed enough to come back and bitch-slap these PCs
>"I dunno, guys, maybe he's faking it."
>Ded.
>>25080442
>>25080451
Also that. DM warned 'em, and they knew what setting they were playing in. Not his fault they decided to be morons.

>>25080442
We actually asked about Lucifer when we talked with Odin. DM shut that option right down fast with some bullshit about how one of the first things YHVH did when he came back was kill him.

>>25080451
We were swimming in divine loot, bro.

>>25080492
So DM pussified Odin by not having him to take on YHVH, good to know.

>>25080492
Not even fucking CLOSE, per their settings. Odin is a finite being with a physical body, Yahweh is the infinite All that exists outside of reality.

It'd be like Superman fighting Azathoth, except instead of corrupt and mad, He's all-knowing and omnibenevolent.

Imagine Lawful Good at its absolute finest, completely devoid of stupidity or naive mercy. Imagine a being who knows the EXACT nature and contours of your Being, and is entirely prepared to JUSTICE your ass for being Evil.

Not even the same LEAGUE.

>>25080504
There's lots of conflicting stories about who set up what, where and when. Someone's lying, and I doubt it's the ones that admit to being a group

>>25077833
>decide to take down YHVH

Why did you decide to do this in the first place?

>>25080567
Again, pretty obvious he was killable, and the way the gods talked about him, he was being set up as some FB.

>>25080549
YOU, YOUR PARTY, YOUR LOOT, EVERY OTHER GOD, AND THE UNIVERSE ITSELF!

All of it only existed because Yahweh WANTED it too. You don't seem to get it, you weren't fighting an angry old bearded dude. You were fighting the Infinite Sapient Concept that created reality, that just so happens to be COMMUNICATING with you through the form of an old angry bearded dude.

>>25080560
booooo

>>25080587
>pretty obvious he was killable

Well if you were wrong about that, what else did you miss?

>>25080587
Why did you try to skip right to the final boss, despite the DM repeatedly telling you it was a bad idea?

>DM keeps trying to salvage the plot by warning us
>keeps saying that this is an incredibly bad idea
>not falling for it, manage to kill Metatron

>not falling for it

Did you think the DM was just lying to you?

>>25080594
Communicating my ass, it never did any of that. Hell, Metatron was the voice of God, right? He didn't even do that. He only showed up because apparently YHVH had sent him to slap our shit. When we killed him the DM tried to backpedal with how Metatron was a "warning shot."

>>25080632
Pretty much. I really do not like railroading DMs.

>>25080587
How is it obvious an immortal, omnipotent, omniscient being is killable? :|

Not to mention, as pointed out before, he exists completely outside of reality. Even if you did "kill him", he'd just make a new Avatar, port right back in, and continue where his last Avatar left off.

>>25080587
I'm going to assume you're not christian, jewish or islam. If you're then you don't know your own fucking belief system.
His stat block was max because the DM didn't want to just draw the infinite symbol in the sheet.
Why were you killing the gods anyway? Personal power? Reversing the apocalypse? tumblr atheism? Protecting the people? Grim edgyness?

>>25080648
The only railroading I saw was the DM telling you fighting someone who will easily and effortlessly annihilate you is a bad idea.

Given the result, I'd say the DM was right on the money there.

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>>25080648
Let me rephrase. YAHWEH COULD THINK YOU OUT OF EXISTENCE!

>>25080648
>Pretty much. I really do not like railroading DMs.

Dying to an enemy far above your own powerlevel, when you insisted on fighting them and were not maneuvered into it, and were in fact warned against it, does not seem like railroading to me.

If you really thought the DM was railroading you, how could you possibly think that fighting Yahweh would go well?

>>25080702
Oh the Godman comics. Those get me everytime.

Person who posted the story, I'd suggest you look at those for an example of how easy YHVH went on you by entertaining the idea of fighting you head on.

>>25080667
First and Fourth. The DM had it that with YHVH gone, the gods were trying to figure out what to do, with a lot of them killing each other over what was left. Norse was being treated as a sect where they were happy to just shit up the planet as a sort of "last hurrah"
Our players saw that the gods were really not doing a good job and figured that for the good of humanity it was best to take them down. Divine loot was a plus.

>>25080674
>>25080716
We weren't supposed to kill Metatron and we did, so we were on a pretty good streak.

>>25080702
So then why didn't he? And furthermore if he could, why have someone like that in the campaign?

>>25080751
The DM was HUMORING YOU you idiot. Because if the DM just said "Yeah none of you exist anymore" you would have ragequit!

And Yahweh was included as a PLOT DEVICE, not an enemy you could fight!

>>25080751
>why didn't he?
Because your DM probably figured that YHVH was personally slighted by you guys killing Metatron, and maybe wanted to bitch-slap you personally. Maybe he hadn't had a decent romp in awhile. Maybe he just was on the way to the store, who knows?

>if he could, why have someone like that in the campaign?
Because you and your party made it very obvious that you wanted to take a shot at YHVH. DESPITE the fact he kept telling you it was a terrible decision. He was the impetus for the whole setting, not an active player in it.

>>25080751
>We weren't supposed to kill Metatron and we did, so we were on a pretty good streak.

You killed one of the BBEG's lieutenants, presumably by a fluke the DM didn't actually expect, judging by your story. Then you decided to try to defeat the BBEG himself, despite having no expectation that you would succeed, save for a lucky break.

Again, if you suspected the DM of railroading, there is no way you should have expected this to go well.

>>25080751
tl:dr this entire discussion

You and the other players were dumb, and you are in the bigger assholes here. Not the DM.
nothing you've been saying has changed this.
Try to be less dumb and less of an asshole in the future.

>DM starts running this campaign for people who haven't played 3.5/d&d at all
>asks a few of us who have played before to come and play to speed things up
>instead of making characters, we all get to pick from 12 premade characters
>I choose a winged elf ranger, that has gone down the archery path
>level up, start taking feats the benefit from me flying and being able to shoot from a height
>after a few weeks of me letting the party paladin and fighters draw all the aggro while I spam arrows my DM takes me aside and tells me to lay off flying all the time
>I tell him thats the gimmick he gave the character
>Next week we fight a gold dragon, I fail my fear and run like a tard
>dragon flies after me, ignoring the golden draconian paladin who is smacking it in the chest as it takes off
>I managed to live through the even via having better flight and not having to deal with a bunch of other adventurers at the same time
>week after we get stuck in 5ft by 5ft corridors, low ceilings and I never get to fly again
>kill my character off because I can't do shit anymore while one melee guy just goes one one with what ever is in the corridor in front of us
>never play d&d with him again

His other great stories include not allowing barbarians to wear armor of any kind and making everything within 3.5 act like it came straight out of warhammer fantasy.

Luckily I now play pathfinder with other people, but most of them have crossed paths with the guy above and have retarded stories of their own...maybe I will recount some of them.

>>25080648
Tolkien's opening scene describing the forging of the rings...
"Guys! the DM is clearly trying to railroad us from jumping into that all powerful volcano! Come on guys! We can totally kick that things ASS!"

>>25080827
He didn't even go with that. He tried to pass YHVH off as this benevolent dictator that just wanted to be left alone.

>>25080798
>>25080827
>>25080843
>>25080772
And that is what we call a shit DM.

>>25080854
Recount, my friend. I have readied my Popcorn

>>25080886
If he just wanted to be elft alone and had the ability to annihilate you all with zero effort, why the fuck did you pick a fight with him?

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>>25080886
>Doing fine, everyone's having fun so far
>Decide to to a stupid thing
>DM tries to warn you
>You bitch about it
>DM gives you what you say you want
>You bitch about that too

Do you not see how incredibly silly you were?

If the DM had some thoughts or feelings about God that he wanted to share, he should have put them in a song, not a campaign. He should have known, murderhobos gonna murderhobo.

>>25080886
you see how no one here is agreeing with you?
that's because you are wrong.

>>25080945
Seriously.

Come on, how often do you see /tg/ so united in opinion?

>>25080886
>He tried to pass YHVH off as this benevolent dictator that just wanted to be left alone.

You intentionally antagonized the benevolent dictator by hunting down his priests, despite repeated warnings. Metatron, the voice of the benevolent dictator, comes by, because said dictator still doesn't really want to deal with you himself. He just wants to be left alone.

So you kill Metatron, and the dictator decides he's had enough and detaches an infinitesimal fraction of his might to get you to stop bothering him.

Your death was just.

>>25080887
Okay I shall recount the tales of my people

>Playing 3.5 again
>same DM this time I am playing with what we call the old fogies group (all over the age of 30 except me, the dm and my classmate)
>flying around on an airship, low magic low level campaign
>suddenly attack by sky pirates (pretty sure he'd been playing too much final fantasy)
>30 something yua-tai (snake dudes) come pouring onto our airship
>we are level 3
>there's 6 of us
>we promptly tell him he's a fucking retard, he tells up to play along
>all of us end up poised and pass out/get dropped to negatives
>wake up in a prison
>no weapons ect
>some random snake chick gives us a rehearsed monologue, none of us get a chance to interact with her before she fucks off and we are beaten by the guards
>eventually wake up to the sound of fighting
>some rebels we never heard of are attacking the prison we are being held in
>join up, all aboard the train
>after several sessions we decide to go back and slap the piss out of the snake bitch
>she TPK's us with her minions in 3 rounds
>we were 6th level at this point

Basically he made some retarded story about rebel and some snake bitch (which he drew, I noticed she had some very sexualized features) and when we tried to kill her I am pretty sure he fudge everything and made her stats up on the fly.

Week after we started a new campaign as level 1 goblins and had a shit ton of fun doing goblin things...he complained the whole time.

>trap!
>magical trap that transports you miles and miles away...
>to the top of a pillar that is hundred of yards high
>the side of the pillar looks solid, and is imbedded with broken glass
>the top of the pillar has skeletal remains, and rusty weapons
>around you, you see similar pillars

Options are death by falling, death by starvation, or death by death.

>>25080976
Except the part where he pulled a TPK in a few seconds.

That was total bullshit.

>>25080886
you're the stupid fuck who walks into the lion's cage, and seeing that it isn't pissed off enough at you start hitting it with a stick

then when it clamps it's fucking jaws around your stupid throat you call bullshit? idiot please go

>>25081034
You seem to be missing the part where he's omnipotent. It's kind of important.

>>25081034
What else do you expect when you piss off an all-powerful guy who literally has absolute control over everything in the universe?

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>>25081034
What part of "omnipotent" don't you get?

>>25081071
Omnipotent does not mean unbeatable.

>>25081077
An enjoyable boss fight?

>>25081088
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

>>25081034
>few seconds
after what seems like hours if not days of warning that this would be exactly what would happen.

So no, you're still wrong. No one is agreeing with you, no one is going to agree with you, because you are wrong.
Just because you died doesn't mean it was THAT DM, sometimes you're just too stupid to live

>>25081088
yes it does. it literally fucking does. it means "can do anything" ANYTHING

you cannot kill something that can do anything. it's impossible. because anything includes "totally invincible immortal who can ressurrect himself with no effort, and KILL YOU WITH NO EFFORT, AN INFINITE NUMBER OF TIMES IN THE SMALLEST TIMEFRAME CONCEIVABLE WITH NO EFFORT

I'm pretty sure you're being trolled here guys

>>25081088
>Omnipotent does not mean unbeatable.
Yes, actually. It really does mean that.

>>25081088

Uhh...yes it does...

I mean the only conceivable way an omnipotent being could be beaten is by another omnipotent being.

They would realize the futility of their conflict as they destroy worlds and civilizations because they are both unbeatable.

Eventually, they would have to flip a coin to decide the argument.

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>>25081088
>>25081088
>>25081088
>Omnipotent does not mean unbeatable.
>Omnipotent does not mean unbeatable.
>Omnipotent does not mean unbeatable.

>>25081103
I don't think you know what omnipotent means

>>25081113
Maybe it would've gone different if the DM let us get Lucifer to help and didn't make Odin such a pussy by refusing to fight YHVH.

>>25081127

True, but it is making me laugh.

>>25081007
>I don't like fun campaigns
>I wanna go back to my snake queen
>my feet hurt
>I wish I was in my rebellion right now

>>25081136
omnipotence modifies the outcome of the coinflip. in fact, them existing would probably mean that everything else existing is just a function of their existence. what happens when an unstoppable force AND immovable object meet another unstoppable force and immovable object?

>>25081142
But that's right.

Something could be an omnipotent fool, kinda like how Azathoth is fuckpowerful but also a blind idiot god.

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>>25080348
>We were wearing helmets.

>>25081127
I know, but it's hilarious.
>>25081173
Then God with a big 'G' tells them to get off his lawn and stop trampling his azaleas.

>>25081157
okay you need to stop.
really, you stop. go to the bathroom look in the mirror and say to yourself "I was wrong" and think about what that means.
Does this really affect who you are? does this affect your sense of self? Why were you so resistant to realizing this simple, and in the end undeniable fact?

then when you're at peace with your being wrong, you can get back online and start talking again.

>>25081173
hey! don't bring physics in my game, we call that magic.

>>25081201
and impossible to destroy. don't forget that part

you know because azathoth is everything, and everything is azathoth.

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>>25081173

>>25081201
but Azathoth is still unbeatable.

>>25081127
Poe's Law. Hard to tell whether this is a fairly clever satire of player entitlement, or the genuine article. I really wish it wasn't so ambiguous. But judging by some of the threads I've seen on /tg/, there really are players who would call getting killed after taking on God after several warnings not to the behavior of That GM.

captch: dmingdom WHAT

>>25081157
Omnipotent=all-powerful

As in, he literally has ALL of the power.

And what the fuck are Odin and Lucifer going to do? The best they could do is inconvenience him for a nanosecond.

>>25081007

Next one involves him being favorable to one player all the time, to the point where half the part decided to kill off that players character in its sleep.

>playing a fighter pretty derpy guy
>has in character friendship with elf rogue, he's the brains and I'm the very big muscle
>rest of party is fine, human cleric, half elf bard
>another rogue
>immediately the DM starts favoring this rogue, he always finds awesome loot that he pockets for himself and never shares
>comes up with some lame ass excuse when we get pissed saying we don't know he has those items
>we can see him fucking using them week after week
>eventually it gets to the point where he has about twice as much character worth as the rest of us
>me and my roguish friend plot his death one day
>run it past the other 2 party members
>Bard is down to kill
>cleric says he'll ignore it if we can make it look like and accident
>we decide to kill him in the dead of night and dump him into the river
>player at this point is screaming at us saying he should have some rolls or some shit
>fails all his rolls, gets insta gibbed by sneak attack from other rogue
>carry body to river, loot it and throw it into the swell
>he throws a huge piss fit, dm is raging at us but lets it happen
>think they got the message
>next week he turns up with a level 8 undead swashbuckler named jacob pigeon (not shitting you)
>plays it just like his old character, but with added jack sparrow catchphrases and hand gestures
>still trying to get the best of the loot
>dm obliges
>tell him its bs
>start making excuses on why I can't come
>cleric and rogue follow suit soon after
>last I heard he invited his girlfriend and some 13 year olds to fill in the places
>game fell apart soon after because it was still the jacob the douche bag show

>>25081157
>Maybe it would've gone different if the DM let us get Lucifer to help and didn't make Odin such a pussy by refusing to fight YHVH.

Maybe. But that's not what happened. You took on Yahweh all by yourself, intentionally. All of this is your own fault. You could have spent some time gathering all the mystic forces and divine artifacts you could possibly reach, in preparation for a fight against the highest power known. You could have set up an epic battle against the single greatest being ever.

Instead you killed a messenger and died pointlessly.

>>25081167
Not sure if you're mocking me or not....

>>25081127

Yeah, but this time it's good.

Besides, I've had plenty of players who went:

"WAAAAAAAHHHHH! Y U NO LET ME KILL LADY OF PAIN"

I drank their tears, every last drop.

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>>25081136
There can't be two omnipotent beings. If you have something outside of your power or control like another omnipotent being.... then you're not fucking omnipotent.

Part of the reason why early Jews were had such a raging hard on for shitting and defaming and generally pissing on the legitimacy of other gods and religions because theirs had to be the bestest. There CAN'T be any rivals on the omnipotent scale logically.

>>25081201
fuckpowerful =/= omnipotent

fool.

>>25081284
well technically, it's not impossible considering part of omnipotence is being able to be impossible

for instance: can god create a stone he cannot lift? yes. can he lift that stone. also yes. could an omnipotent god exist while another one also did? well yes, because otherwise he wouldn't be omnipotent silly.

Hey nick.

>>25081244

>Jacob the Douchebag Show
Somehow I wouldn't be surprised to see this as something that pops up on TV...

>>25081318
Rourie sama,how could you.

>This thread

I CAST MAGIC MISSILE AT THE UNIVERSE

>>25081250
We actually tried for that with Odin, but noooo, he refused to bring everything because his pantheon was too busy shitting up the world with battle in what the DM called "fucking norse party time" as if he completely forgot that the Norse loved to get shitfaced and screw hookers like normal people.

Greek and Egypt were getting somewhat along but refused to help us because Helios somehow knew we were planning to backstab them when it was done, which led to our rampage through the Egyptian pantheon.

Japanese told us to fuck off and we never bothered with the others.

>>25081334
You know how it must be nikerusu, it will never end.

>>25081352
>and we never bothered with the others.

So you just got bored and decided God needed to die, like, right now.

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>>25081312
Well that goes back to the age old question of "Can Jesus make a Hot Pocket so hot that he cannot eat it?"

But you're still wrong. If he's omnipotent then that other God that exists is a part of him. Omnipotence implies that you have power over and are everything. You are all power/stuff in the universe.

And for a different anon who was talking about coinflips that has more to do with Omniscience which essentially invalidates the concept of free will..... something most non monotheists find disconcerting.

>>25081264
He was mocking That Guy

I don't understand this, no gods in fucking pathfinder are omnipotent(not even the gods of the dark tapestry). If they were omnipotent they wouldn't be able to kill each other but they can so they are not. Just think of gods as extremely powerful entities.

>>25076724
Fuckin' great

Rolled 95

>>25081410
It wasn't a Pathfinder god, it was the capital 'G' God as featured in Abrahamic religion. The game was set after the Rapture.

So yes, it was an omnipotent God.

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>>25081399
Our only options at that point was bullshit like Mesoamerican and Middle-Eastern. Not like Sumerian or Babylonian deities could do anything.

>>25081471
>all of these IMMORTAL GODS want no part in this scheme for various reasons

That should have been a clue

>>25081520
I'll admit we made some mistakes. In hindsight, trying to get Arthur in on this was probably not a grand idea.

>4e
>Playing a pirate Warlord, first mate of the ship
>Challenge the captain to a duel on behalf of the mutinous crew (we'd been sailing for months toward an imaginary land and were just about to pass the point of no return)
>Captain gets critted twice in a row
>Grabs a rope and swings down through a window to the captain's quarters
>The crew above deck and I charge down after him
>He runs into several crew members on the lower deck and tells them the Shardminds are attacking (DM had written Shardminds into the setting for one of the other players, saying that there was only a single small tribe of them on the other side of the world)
>The crew members running up to fight off the attack run into all of the crew members chasing the captain and ask why we're going the wrong way
>I explain that I had challenged the captain to a duel, and that the captain forfeited by running off, and that we were on our way to see that justice was served
>Three of the eleven crew members believe me, the others declare that they are loyal to the captain to death and beyond and draw their swords on the twenty or so of us chasing the captain
>I spend a couple of minutes trying to figure out how I can reach the captain and just fucking end him so we can move on
>Realize that I can double move, action point, and charge him and reach him with 20 feet to spare
>DM: "You can't reach him."
>wat
>Yes I can, just like this
>DM fiat is invoked, I can't reach him.
>Okay then, how far will you allow me to move?
>DM: "Fine then, have it your way. You charge the captain."
>Hit him hard, he barely survives
>He turns around and hits me for half of my health and heals himself for half of his
>DM has to go at this point
>DM: "Wow, that fight really took a long time. I was really hoping to complete the next encounter as well tonight"
For the life of me, I can't figure out how the hell he expected that to go. He all but declared the duel between the PC and the NPC in his setting.

>>25081520
The fact said immortal gods stayed the fuck away until they were sure YHVH was gone so they could "scavenge" what's left should have been another.

>>25081352
norse mythos revolves around a final apocalyptic sucidal battle and EVEN THEN they though fighting god was a terrible idea

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>the last 100 posts

Holy fuck, I haven't laughed this hard in months, my poor Ab DOMS!

To the idiot who picked a fight with Yahweh, yea, you're a dumb shit, but please, don't stop defending your idiocy, I'm having a great time

>>25081613
>4e
Stopped reading there.

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Dedicating this thread to the man who made all of this possible.

>>25081668
So the DM was playing the Norse pantheon out of character then. Cause they should have been all for a suicidal battle.

>>25081520
>>25081621
We almost had Greek + Egypt on board but again somehow Helios figured out what we were doing.

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>>25081742
Hallelujah!

This is the third encounter of a door like this:

>The door is locked. You will need a key.
No problem, the thief should be able to pick it.
>It is a magical lock.
The wizard has a knock spell ready.
>The door is enchanted, and proofed against it.
The cleric casts remove ward?
>Also proofed against.
The party consists of some of the strongest people in this part of the world, including a dwarf with a magical axe. We bash and chop our way through.
>Not gonna happen.
OK, fine. We cleared out this section, and have as much time as we want without interruption. We travel back 50 feet, and the dwarves tunnel through to the other side of the wall.
>Impossible.

Rage quit, and uninstall Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor.

Am I a That DM?

The group and I were playing a game of Cyberpunk: 2020 and things (as they usually do) went tits up. Imagine the LA Riots of 1992 (Rodney King, etc) and that's a regular day in this part of Night City. One of my players was a japanese special agent character. An NPC rolls out of the alleyway with intent to fight him and kill him. That's fine, these things happen.

Allow me to preface things by saying that said NPC was a former character turned into a murdering, psychopathic cyborg who preferred to wield jet fuel powered sledgehammers. Yes, the rules exist for that. Another point to be made is the difficulty levels--an easy task would be a Difficulty 15 roll, and an 'Impossible' task would be Difficulty 35--as an example, an impossible task would be making military grade explosives in your bathroom, or altering an AI while you're inside its consciousness. The things that shouldn't happen, but might. His character routinely rolled in the 40's, without 'exploding' dice (roll a 10 on a d10, reroll it and add the two results).

Hurting him--or anything else designed to give the 'thrill' and reminder that in fact, you were a mortal person--couldn't happen. In less than 10 rounds said character and NPC finished a fight that should have taken a disproportionately longer amount of time to finish, to say the least, with the character (asian guy) barely touched. As a test someone got a bead on him with a machinegun and fired, hitting him 20 out of 30 times. In a game where 4 wounds to the head can kill you outright, he was hit twice in the dome. Walked away from it, too. Please note that this happens on a regular basis--he was by and large, untouchable. After that I essentially asked for his sheet, telling him a sniper with a 50 caliber rifle was shooting at him. A weapon designed to destroy or render useless lightly armed vehicles shot him in the chest. He took the hit. And lived. It was too much and he agreed with me on that, and was otherwise fine with it.

>>25081855
I guess I just worry that I'm a shitty GM. I'm still relatively new to this shit, and don't want to cock it all up from the get-go. To clarify, the player in question was my former GM, and a seasoned player by any definition.

There is one problem with christian theology and the whole god being omnipotent, he has a form of kryptonite: iron chariots. Judges 1:19. God is merely uberpowerful but not omnipotent.

of course this is one of the contradictions in the bible that make trying to get a coherent idea about god impossible

crafting feather fall item in pathfinder, Spell level * caster level * 2000 / (5/# uses a day) = 400 gold, crafting it yourself or having a buddy craft it : 200 gold.

if your allowed to apply limitations, then it goes down to 140 gold. (thing ring can only lift those who's heart isn't darkened by malicious intent, only works for good characters or whatever)

Is 140 gold an insane investment for a character to make? Only if your starting at level 1 175 gold, at which point you can't afford it unless you roll your gold and get near max. Hell, at that point, buy nothing and give the gold to the party member to crank it out in an hour since it costs piddly nothing.

Die for your sins but don't cry about them to us.

>>25080702
Maybe modern circle-jerk "SO POWAFUL" Yahweh, but not Bible Yahweh.

>>25081846

I almost TPK'd the party trying to open a locked door (apparently it was heavily booby trapped); luckily one guy said "fuck waiting around, I'm gonna go search that statue". The key was there.

>>25081911
>>25081886
And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

You'd have to be retarded to not interpret this to mean "The Israelites couldn't beat the inhabitants of the valley". What kind of idiot would think this was saying Yahweh couldn't do it? The guy floods planets and doesn't afraid of anybody, do you HONESTLY believe that implying Yahweh was too weak was the author's intention?

>>25081911
yeah, YHWH should never be considered the actual UberGod if you had any understanding of his origins or how judiasm and christianity eventually came to be. It should actually be Marduk, the first monotheist UberGod. Late in the Babylonain empire, the other gods were simply folded into Marduk.

>>25081971
Apparently gods power falters before iron chariots. Therefore god can be killed with cars.

>>25081911
>>25081990
Thank you. Knew the DM was full of shit. Glad some people actually agree with me.

>>25081971

>>25081911, here. Yeah, the iron chariots business is BS. It's vague, but it is probably referring to Judah.

>>25082013
Oh don't even start you. Even if biblical Yahweh was limited originally [He wasn't], but even if He was. Your DM was obviously using the Christian Omnipotent Yahweh. Meaning you're shit out of luck.
>>25081990
No, Israelite's powers falter before chariots. This passage is merely using the textual device common in the Bible of attributing the actions of Israel to God. Israel does something and God takes the credit. So Judges is saying that ISRAEL couldn't defeat these people. Yahweh himself obviously could have.

>>25082013
The thing is that YHWH is a horrible mess of two different god stories that have been mashed together. Young tribal god and Elder transcendent God. The various books and sometimes within the books gods power varies according to which tradtion is currently being hyped on.

>>25082068
Except they prove that the DM was just a piece of shit.
>>25082084
Doesn't excuse him being a shitty DM.

>>25081471

While I can see where everyone is getting a raging hard-on for "ooh, omnipotent, you lose"...

...considering this "God" had stats, they really aren't omnipotent. You don't stat things that aren't killable - behind the scenes, you just note that they can't be killed!

Better would have been to let the players try whatever they wanted, have God (a real, statless one!) smack them down, then turn them into his new lieutenants/heralds/whatever. Set the campaign in a new direction.

The fact that said DM did none of this shows the player is right about it being crap. The DM was just butthurt they weren't following the specific railroad HE wanted them to use.

>>25082084
Oh thats a load of modern crap, there is nothing in the text itself that supports that claim.

>>25082102
Thank you, Jesus Christ.

>>25082099
All they did was give the same opinion as you. That doesn't prove jack-shit other than that you three have the same opinion.

As opposed to the entire rest of the thread giving an opposing opinion. You're just taking those two since they agree with you.

>>25082013

You're actually going to leave this thread thinking you're right, aren't you?

The Old Testament God is a dick bag. He's one of the most callous, cruel, vindictive and megalomaniacal entities in any book printed. Consider this: in God's plan, he slaughters *literally* every first born male child in Egypt. Every single one of them. Why? Because Pharoah (note, here, it is SPECIFICALLY Pharoah who is doing the jew imprisoning, and all of Egypt's children who are dying) would not let the Jew's go. Why did he not let them go? BECAUSE GOD HARDENED PHAROAH'S HEART AGAINST THE JEWS.

So yeah, it's pretty plausible that God was with Judah, saw the iron chariots, and said 'fuck it, you deal with those'. Interpretting the bible to say 'god couldn't handle that iron shit' is asinine, and clearly demonstrates poor reading comprehension.

>>25082123
I'm taking those two because they have fucking sense.
So does >>25082102

>>25081855
You've got a long way to go, but you're showing some promise of being That GM.

>>25082099
YOU FOUGHT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ONLY UNFIGHTABLE, ITS UNKILLABLE.
>>25082102
Listen man, I can understand being reasonable, but you have to obey the laws of story-telling when you DM. If the players absolutely HAVE to kill a Balrog at level 1, you don't make way for them, you let them all die. Because actions in-game have consequences. The DM apparently gave this guy and his party a ton of leway. He wasn't saying "You HAVE to do this", he was saying you CAN'T do this.

>>25082102
Even so, if someone were to stat fucking GOD wouldn't they put it to the max? And wouldn't he have things to fuck everyone over with no effort anyway?

>>25082137
So.......much........misinterpretation.

>>25082140
In this case sense seems to equal agreeing with you.

And honestly, jhow does it make sense you thought you could defeat something that could potentially unmake all of reality by raising his eyebrow?

CAPTCHA:owupag ignorance

>>25082171
no, thats pretty accurate if you read the actual words and not the rationalizations that twist what they say.

>>25082105
Are You Fucking Kidding Me. When was the lat time you skimmed Genesis. In chapter one he's an omnipotent creating shit from nothing and not two chapters later he has to ask the humans to stop hiding from him in the garden.

>>25082161

Nah, he'd be like the Lady of Pain.

Her stats are: "If the players try to kill her, they die. No questions asked."

>>25082145

You are comparing apples and oranges.

Level 1 character against Balrog? Instadeath.

Characters that have been rampaging through the various pantheons, killing everyone in their way, including God's herald...against the so-called "God" (again, statted, so it's really NOT GOD)?

Good grief, this DM was just mad butthurt. Your example is not the same thing at all.

>>25082194
See >>25082222

>>25081613

Maybe however he statted the captain, he thought it was appropriate for an entire party fight and not just a solo. It doesn't make SENSE to stat a pirate captain that way, but maybe he just really wants you all to sail to Narnia.

Enjoy your cruise!