>>26011441
Here's the archive for whenever the thread itself goes away http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/25996456/

>>26011441
Also, it's late November, and a turn lasts 10 days.
>i'mnewatthis

>>26011441
For votes, see last thread.

>>26011441
We decided to wait until spring to attack, yes?
I would (B) on magic and (B) on weapons, then. If not, attackattackattack.

>>26011441
I it winter, cold is not good for us! we will train and breed, kill in the spring.

>F, train magic
>F, train troops

>>26011469
f. make more eggs to hatch in spring
B. research better weapons

>>26011441

F. Train Magic

F. Post a sentry to watch the forest for movement

>>26011441
It may be cold bit we can still think... kinda. Research better armor.
Otherwise train for the coming spring-war

>>26011514
I also proposed that we wait until summer to attack, as we'd have a new brood of warriors by then. If we don't want to wait that long, we can probably take the town in the spring, too.

B. Research tech. Perhaps hunting and war would be made easier if we had a device to help us throw our javelins farther and more accurately. (IRL, this thing is called an atlatl)

B. Have Gyandat practice his spell some more.

>>26011441
F, we need more eggs to bolster our ranks.
E, some dedicated training areas taht allw us to increase the capabilities of our troops faster would be nice

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Ah, the roommate brought lunch, but...

keep voting while we wait? Dump lizardman pics!

>>26011599
Yeah, let's wait until the new eggs hatch and are trained. Numbers are our thing, so let's use them. In the meantime, Spells and Weapons (particularly that javelin thing sounds cool).

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>>26011635
>>26011599

Yeah, here's some more info on it for those who don't know what an atlatl is:

A spear-thrower or atlatl is a tool that uses leverage to achieve greater velocity in dart-throwing, and includes a bearing surface which allows the user to temporarily store energy during the throw.

It may consist of a shaft with a cup or a spur at the end that supports and propels the butt of the dart. The spear-thrower is held in one hand, gripped near the end farthest from the cup. The dart is thrown by the action of the upper arm and wrist. The throwing arm together with the atlatl acts as a lever. The spear-thrower is a low-mass, fast-moving extension of the throwing arm, increasing the length of the lever. This extra length allows the thrower to impart force to the dart over a longer distance, thus imparting more energy and ultimately higher speeds.

>>26011599
we have 7 turns that's about 14 upgrades till sping, we need bettter magic and weapons so this is a good starting point

>>26011599
Changing my vote to second this

Why is everyone focussing so much on researching new types of weapon and armor? I've heard the humans use materials a lot tougher than anything we have. Let's just take it from them. Maybe leave some of them alive so they can teach us how they do it.

What we really have to focus on is bolstering our ranks and the expertise of our warriors. We will have a great many more strong, fearless fighters next summer, but they will need experienced bretheren to lead them.

>>26011678
>Why is everyone focussing so much on researching new types of weapon and armor? I've heard the humans use materials a lot tougher than anything we have. Let's just take it from them. Maybe leave some of them alive so they can teach us how they do it.

This!
our research-rate is shit, any time spent on it will be wasted since when we take the human city we will find tech that makes our`s obsolete

>>26011678
HERESY the our god Otigmo saif to claim the heads of their men and to hand over the women and children we shall spare only the sacrifices
and a atlatl would help

>>26011699
>>26011678
I dunno. I'm not sure we're strong enough (maybe with the new warriors) to kill the hummies. And teching helps that. Fuck it. CHANGE MY VOTE TO KILL HUMANS.

If it doesn't work out, at least we'll have a food surplus again.

>>26011678
>>26011699
Our research rate is shit, but we still need to make the best of what we have. Every advance we make gives more of a fighting chance against the defenders of Underhill.

Also, if things go as planned, we're going to have to kill all their warriors and men (people who are most likely to know the secrets to their technological advances) and sacrifice their women and children to Otimgo, anyway.

>>26011752
>Every advance we make gives more of a fighting chance

for every advance we get in tech, we could get two in magic, training or tactics...

>>26011752
>B. Research technology (1/2 speed)
>>26011766

>>26011713
Otigmo will see our wisdom once we bring back more and more sacrifices with the shiny-hard weapons the humans have.

Claiming knowledge from human's head before claiming entire head for Otigmo's glory is pious-wise!

Back, counting votes and typing shit up!

>>26011752
>>26011766
Focussing on abilities of venerated-smart leaders and strong-cunning warriors is wisest!

>>26011779
>>26011766
If you say so. We still have a lot of time left before the assault begins, and I don't think dipping into at least one tech advance would hurt us at all. I'm still going with:
B. Research atlatl
and
B. Have Gyandat practice Fire Elemental spell

>>26011827
How long for babies-eggs to reach maturity?

Otimgo could teach us metalworking on a much higher level. We don't need plebs like humans to teach us (which assumes that our coercion works and we don't get flawed info). Tech is good, though we must indeed know our limits.

>>26011678
im for taking their weapons, steel beats rock

>>26011849
They'll hatch in the spring, IIRC. Then, it takes two months for them to mature.

>>26011441
magic and train troops

>>26011441
Train magic

Train/ research stealth tatics

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I think it's probably best to steal tech rather than make it. Even if we lose the battle, we'll get the new warriors anyway. And I suspect losing the Paladins hurt them *really* badly. Keep the pressure on: keep attacking, we do better than them at low numbers (because we replenish faster).

>>26011441
F dig ambush sites in the swamp
B research breathing tubes
When spring comes beat one of our shamans and pretend to drive him out.
He goes to the humans pleading for vengeance says he will lead them to our village. Bam ambush.

>>26011986
agree, steal their things but i vote we scout first to see what we have to go through

>>26011986
Don't they still have like twice our number?
Id say guerrilla warfare is the best bet.

>>26011849
Eggs hatch over the course of a season, except they won't hatch during winter. Hatchlings grow to full maturity in 2 months, which is pretty quick and fits the "exceptional" description.

>mfw votes are confusing as hell
Going with train magic and train troops for this turn, it seemed to come up the most.

F (Train magic) (13)
Gyandat, the older of the tribe's new spellweavers, steels himself once more to reach mentally into the elemental planes and wrestle a fire elemental from its home. It resists furiously, but eventually is dragged into a circle of binding drawn up specifically for holding elementals. Trapped, the elemental watches helplessly as Gyandat casts a spell to enslave it before releasing it. Gyandat can now reliably summon a bound fire elemental.

F (train warriors) (14)
The fresh recruits continue their combat training with their veteran counterparts, drilling everything from underwater tactics to formation fighting to guerilla warfare. The lizardman warriors are now as battle-ready as they'll be without actual combat experience, and they've updated their loadouts to include more javelins, to boot.

It's early December. Winter affects the lizardmen adversely (-2 rolls across the board, some actions invalidated).

Oziliken
Pick any 2 actions:
A. Scavenge/hunt for food.
B. Research technology (1/2 speed)
C. Scout the area (choose)
D. Assemble a raiding party to attack the humans.
E. Expand the settlement.
F. Your suggestion.

Population: 84 (32 eggs)
Food: 2.5 turns' worth. (self-sustaining)
Infrastructure: Spawning pool, expanded floating gardens, fisheries crocodile farm, 4 huts + longhouse (houses 120).
Weapons & Armor: Bamboo spears, javelins, hide shields, iron axes, macahuitl, vorpal swords, hide armor.
Tech: Wood Working, Advanced Tactics, Agriculture, Fisheries, Body Armor.
Magic: Lemprai (Fireball), Gyandat (Conjure Fire Elemental)
Defenses: Sturdy palisade (wooden), spiked barricades (wooden), crocodile moat.

>>26012028
They *had* ~200 total. Then we killed some of their warriors. We only have 80, but more of ours fight than theirs (I assume).

>>26012028
Exactly. Having a spear-throwing device that allows us to chuck javelins at them from a further distance will only help with the guerrilla approach. We're going to lose a lot of men, needlessly, if we just focus on spamming them with attacks until we win the village through attrition. I'm not saying we should use ALL our time on researching tech, but I am saying that at least one or two tech advances (with the rest focused on tactics and magic) would really help.

>>26012003
They could barely understand our language when we tried to be friendly they would probably just kill him on sight also researching breathing tubes in winter would be hard not juts because of 1/2 speed but we cant really test them because the water would prolly kill us right now.

>>26012047

>E. Expand the settlement.
dig deeper, the ground is warm, we will eventually need more room(we might even find some ore or resources underground

>F: train magic

>>26012047
(F) Train more Lizards in Magic.
(C) Scout the humans (from a distance). We really don't want to fight in the winter.

>>26012047
B. Research tech: atlatl

E. Build dedicated training area for warriors, in the hopes that this will help muster new warbands quicker.

>>26012082
second this

>>26012047
E: Cold makes crocodiles slow-lazy. Use it to expand crocodile farm!

B: Gather wise-cunning leaders to reflect on battle tactics!

>>26012047
Lets heat things up a notch: F) Orgy Time. Also, were all lizards tested for magic affinity? If not, let's get to it.

B. Research tech: atlatl

B. gilly suits

>>26012098
Change my vote (C) to (E) like >>26012133 said. We can always scout them later (when we're about to attack).

>>26012047
B. Research the atlatl

F. Lizard Orgy lets get those numbers up

>>26012135
Yes-Yes! Mighty-Pious Gyandat needs Assitant-Apprentice!

>>26012047
B research warfare and tactics

F we need patrols, we don't want to get snuck up on

>>26012135
>>26012098
The lizardfolk we have now were all tested over that ten day period, but even if we did find more potential mages, we don't have scrolls to learn spells from or a powerful sorcerer to teach spells.

Can't have more than one clutch of eggs in the same spawning pool, though nothing says you can't have more spawning pools.

Looks like B, atlatl, and E, expand into the ground. Writing it up!

>>26012047
Atlatl
Orgy

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>>26012185
>mfw op can`t even count votes

>>26012210
What was it then, I'm still writing >:L

>>26012210
What do you mean? There are quite a few cries for atlatls, and lso quite a few cries to expad the village.

>>26012210
Well, it's also 'we can't teach spells or make more eggs: ignore those votes' (I assume).

>>26012219
Don't get mad, ultimately, your vote counts.

>>26012219
don't hold back, just keep writing and post, OP!

B. (research Atlatl) (20!-2)
Eureka! After many weeks pondering the motion physics of vectors, fulcrums, lever arms and ballglorbnorblers, the lizardman chief physicist has perfected his latest design: a device he calls the atlatl. Simple enough to fashion out of a shoot of bamboo, it stabilizes javelin flight and adds power to a lizard's throw. Ranged attacks are now much more effective.

E. Expand settlement into ground (9-2)
The lizardmen decide to expand their settlement into the ground, the better to make use of their limited territory. Unfortunately, though the saturated earth is easy to claw through, it's also very loose and water comes flooding into the holes they'd just dug. Craptastic, but fortunately the lizardmen are powerful swimmers and nobody drowned.

It's mid-December.

Oziliken
Pick any 2 actions:
A. Scavenge/hunt for food.
B. Research technology (1/2 speed)
C. Scout the area (choose)
D. Assemble a raiding party to attack the humans.
E. Expand the settlement.
F. Your suggestion.

Population: 84 (32 eggs)
Food: 2 turns' worth. (not quite self-sustaining)
Infrastructure: Spawning pool, expanded floating gardens, fisheries crocodile farm, 4 huts + longhouse (houses 120).
Weapons & Armor: Bamboo spears, javelins, hide shields, iron axes, macahuitl, vorpal swords, hide armor, atlatl.
Tech: Wood Working, Advanced Tactics, Agriculture, Fisheries, Body Armor.
Magic: Lemprai (Fireball), Gyandat (Conjure Fire Elemental)
Defenses: Sturdy palisade (wooden), spiked barricades (wooden), crocodile moat.

>>26012219

Expand settlement 2

Train magic 2

Research Atlatl 3 (4 after GT posted he was writing it up)

Dedicated training Area 1

Expand croc farm 2

Gather wise-cunning leaders for tactics 2

Orgy 2 X no room

If everyone wasn't tested for magic test everyone for magic 1

research Gilly suits 1

research warfare and tactics 1

Patrols 1

>>26012308
Do the crocodiles have any religious ties? If not.

>B: Train Crocodiles to be war mounts.

Gotta be scaley as fuck

>>26012320
what are you doing?

>>26012308
C: Scout swamps for poisonous animals we can use to harvest-breed poison for our weapons!

E: Use new water holes-graves to expand crocodile farm!

>>26012308
Build spawning pools have the workers that make it celebrate with a orgy when they are done

Train army in javelin throwing make it a contest at the end of the 10 day training period to honor Otimgo

>>26012308
E another spawning pool,

E more farms

>>26012344
er, we can, sure... but just think about how effective of a mount a crocodile would be for a man-sized lizard? I'm not stopping you, but consider how awkward that'd be xD

>>26012308

>F: train magic
>E: dig deeper
a little water never hurt a lizardman

>>26012346
Counting i started typing before GT posted the turn sorry should refreshed before posting my bad.

>>26012346
He's making a point. ignore and move on.

>>26012308
(A) if we aren't self-sustaining. I suspect that has something to do with 'winter penalties' but who likes starving?
(F) Magic-users magic themselves more magically. We want them both to be able to consistently cast these and be able to do it more often. If possible, teach them to others (or similar, less-powerful spells)

>>26012308
Expand the settlement and start assembling the raiding party to attack the humans

>>26012379
use magic to make them more mobile/ selective breeding

>>26012383
>>>dig deeper

We're not dwarves, damnit!

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>>26012320
>mfw you can`t count either

>>26012402
Mounts stupid-mad idea. But thought is good. Maybe train crocodiles to be warbeast-weapons?

>>26012379
Well since this is a fantasy setting I assumed they were/could be larger then in real life, but according to a quick google search.

>Average Length of Crocodiles: 14-17 ft.
>Land Speed of a Crocodile: 16-18 MpH

Sounds mountable to me.

>>26012308
E. Build new spawning pool
C. Send a small scouting party to the hills to survey Underhill

>emrarye humans
I hope this means "slay all humans" in Lizardtongue, Captcha

>>26012373
Changing my vote to

A. Hunt for food

B. use new water holes for crocfarm

i agree with C: Scout swamps for poisonous animals we can use to harvest-breed poison for our weapons!

b. gillysuits we need to sneak and perfect for ambushes in the swamp

>>26012447
>average heigth: 30-60cm
I don't see how you could mount those in any effective way.

>>26012447
Right. Let's get us some croc-mounts. Best to do this now while they're lethargic.

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>>26012481
like a surfboard

>>26012490
the big plus of a mount is that they are very mobile. crocodiles aren't mobile. our warriors are probably just as fast.
now, training big crocodiles as warbeast (like the dogs in dragon age), thats an idea I could get behind.

>>26012501
that way our ranged can fire, while slowly being moved closer to the enemy

>>26012481
Apply some fantasy/fictional-setting to them. Just suspend reality for the physiology of the crocs. Just gotta believe,

>>26012527
although... If we were to discover dire crocodiles, mounting those with a couple warriors would make for an awesome shocktrooper.

>>26012527
IDK if even that will work too tell. We'd need to breed crocodiles to be larger and more suited to combat and obeying us to get them to be effective warbeasts.

>>26012457
It does now.

>>26012447
I was more thinking along the lines of them being so low to the ground. Enough votes will get you crocodile mounts, though :p

>>26012501
oh god, you want it, you got it

choice is Expand crocodile farms and scout swamps. lol.

>>26012527
>>26012535
>>26012544
>>26012481
Could we just use them as shock-troops/extra warriors by training them properly?

>>26012549
>>26012534
>>26012535
just... do you even imagine what you're describing? Look at that picture! It looks ridiculous. And atlals are skirmish weapons anyways. Their users an move however the fuck they want. The crocodiles would estrict them at best.

>>26012570
or as well trained defenses for the swamp

>>26012585
picture was for fun. we on the other hand will use them as surfboards with feet, so our ranged lizards can move and fire at the same time

>>26012585
Don`t cry! your votes will count eventually.

>>26012605
>move and fire at the same time
that's how you use javelins. and atlatls. we don't have bows!

Not to speak of the afct that you can't surf crocodiles on land. They don't move like horses, they move more like snakes.

>>26012630
we are halfsnakes, we will cope. and our atlatls will soon be replaced with crossbows from the humans

>>26012630
not yet think about it remember the half dragon paladin, think dragocrocs.

>>26012652
>>26012642
yup! we have to think forward

>>26012652
WE NEED TO TRAIN THESE CROCS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!

>>26012642
>>26012652
I still think they are an incredibly stupid and impractical idea. And they are rustling my jimmies. Immensly. But I'll shut up about it now.

>>26012652
i say we go bac and find this half dragon paladin and see if it can add to our ranks

>>26012695
a little bit late for that now, 'hun.

>>26012690
>I'll shut up about it now.
>shut up
>shut up now.

>>26012652
Maybe we should receive his blessing before deciding if we should use it on crocs to make war beasts

>>26012713
maybe should have asked for his blessing before deciding on researching atlatls

>>26012703
...are you just repeating things other people say for fun and profit or is there a reasoning behind this post?

>>26012726
yes

>>26012695
The half dragon belongs to our god Otimgo who might i add we still have proven our worth too do you REALLY wanna ask him if you can recruit her?

>>26012690
Yeah, I don't think Crocs will work as mounts. DIRE Crocs might (more juggernaut than skirmish), but idk, maybe GT will just rule of cool it?

>>26012725
we don't need him to research atlatls we need him to make half dragon crocs

The Emissary
A human arrives at Oziliken at high noon, dressed in resplendent blue robes and bearing a staff with a ludicrously large gem on it. The sentries summon the Dragon Priest for orders, but the human pays no heed and announces in a clear voice, "Foul lizardmen! The men and women of Underhill will no longer tolerate your presence in our midst, and you will answer one way or another for the crimes you have perpetrated against them without reason. I come as an emissary to tell you this is your one and only chance to surrender those involved in the cowardly attack on the mining village!"

Pick one:
>A. Bring his heart to Otimgo!
>B. Attempt diplomacy.
>C. Surrender 14 warriors to the humans.
>D. Your suggestion.

E. Bestiary (11-2)
The lizardmen make an attempt to cover their losses by converting the ruined subterranean homes into a full-on bestiary to raise crocodiles in, but the earthwork is slow going in the water, and the process will take a turn longer than expected (2 turns).

C. Scout swamps (8-2)
A five man party of scouts ventures over the walls to reconnoiter the surrounding area, and find heavy bootprints here and there. Ten days of searching later, however, they find nothing, and return

It's late December.

Oziliken
Pick any 2 actions:
A. Scavenge/hunt for food.
B. Research technology (1/2 speed)
C. Scout the area (choose)
D. Assemble a raiding party to attack the humans.
E. Expand the settlement.
F. Your suggestion.

Population: 84 (32 eggs)
Food: 1.5 turns' worth. (not quite self-sustaining)
Infrastructure: Spawning pool, expanded floating gardens, fisheries, crocodile farm, 4 huts + longhouse (houses 120).
Weapons & Armor: Bamboo spears, javelins, hide shields, iron axes, macahuitl, vorpal swords, hide armor, atlatl.
Tech: Wood Working, Advanced Tactics, Agriculture, Fisheries, Body Armor.
Magic: Lemprai (Fireball), Gyandat (Conjure Fire Elemental)
Defenses: Sturdy palisade (wooden), spiked barricades (wooden), crocodile moat.

We could just leave the crocs alone.
They provide an excellent defense.
Unless they get hungry

>>26012737
i recall he wants the humans dead and if she can help i dont see why he wouldnt

>>26012768
F - We NEED patrols, we cannot afford to be snuck up on

E - spawning pool

>>26012768
>>A. Bring his heart to Otimgo!

>F:train more firemagic, for burning the human settlement to the ground
>D. Assemble a raiding party to attack the humans.

Our food stores are not self-sustaining again? MORE FISH IN THE MOAT! We must improve Oziliken-home.

And since winter negatively affects us, we should wait till the spring thaw to smash the humans, or else draw them into an ambush. In the meantime, continuing training, this time in the making of trap-trinkets to enhance our limited numbers in battle-fights.

>>26012737
You're right; it's a bad idea. We can't go asking Otimgo for favors when we have yet to fulfill our end of the bargain. It will make us look weak.

Also, war mounts are out of the question for now, at least until we find dire crocs. If we're going to continue researching tech, I think it would be better spent on coming up with:
-bow and arrow
-camouflage
-poison for our weapons

>>26012807
D kill him and throw his head at the mining village

>>26012768
Disgusting-Sneaky humans scouted camp while we prepared for winter! I fear an attack is inevitable-near!

B: Talk-deceive emissary. Stall until spring!

C: We have to stop-delay construction works and send out more scouts!

C: MORE scouts!

>>26012836
permanent patrols, we can't afford to waste turns on scouting

>>26012768
THIS IS GOOD TIME! YES-YES. Send forth fourteen hatchlings. They shall sacrifice themselves for the rest of the Dragon-kin! We can make up their numbers easily, and their martyrdom will be forever remembered, yes-yes. Another spawning and we will have the numbers to overwhelm the humans.

>>26012768
A. Pocket the staff and bring his heart to Otimgo

Oziliken
C. Scout the area around the village for more humans. I doubt the emissary came alone.

E. Build another spawning pool

>>26012768
We must make our offensive swift for the humans know of our camp. Kill the human who is most likely a mage with a quick hurl of the atllatl. With its increased velocity it is probably too fast for the human to react.

Next we should Scout the area towards the human village and create the raiding party. Let's strike fast in blitzkrieg like offensive

>>26012768
A heart to otimgo
C Scout humans
F make patrols

>>26012871
it's winter, we should wait til after winter to attack

>>26012768
B, but we're really planning on killing them all, right guys?
---
A: we need food. Can these guys patrol too?
If not, C: send scouts out to patrol.
If can, E: more traps. The hummies will probably attack us in the winter if we let them.

>>26012690
they are at best guard-dogs right now, after we get that spell things may change, if not we just have to breed them bigger.

>>26012695
>>26012737
if we go back with out a lot of heads or slaves then the dragon will kill our messengers

>>26012768
D. interrogate knowledge from him then after we get all his knowledge from him or he dies we use his corpse as croc treats
E. train crocs
E. find ambush party

our hands have been forced next turn or the one after we must attack. now build torches outside the moat and inside the village to keep the village warm and warm the water surrounding the village so that we can use underwater tactics.

>>26012871
Spring is the earliest we can attack. We cold-blooded creatures don't do so well in the winter.

Alternatively, waiting until summer will give us a larger force to attack with, as the third brood will have matured by then.

>>26012852
...wise words, brother-kin.

F: Place alltime-watchfull scouts near our camp!
E: Spawnpools for larger-stronger tribe!

>>26012768
A. His heart will warm Otimgo.
F. Trap the swamp with bamboo stakes
C. Scout surrounding area

>>26012768
Assume he is a wizard and fill him with javelins then claim his head be careful he may have come with an escort waiting for a chance to attack.

F. Finish the new Bestiary

F. Have a 10 day long training regiment for all warriors to master the atlatls and have a contest in the name of Otimgo on the 10th day of training.

>>26012768

>>A Bring his heart to Otimgo!

>B: Try tanning crocodile hide for some sort of crocoleather armor.
>F: Establish patrols

Also, if we are successful in killing diplomat, investigate his staff.

>>26012768
B, o doubt Otimgo will just be annoyed with long one and if we kill him there will be paladins all over us

B. research camouflage

E, expand and create another Garden or more food

>>26012908
We need to wait until spring to attack them. They may know of our village, but we have ranged power and strong defenses and traps around our village. I think we can repel a human raid, if it happens.

"EMRARYE HUMANS!"
See why atlatls came in handy, guys?

>>26012928
we already have (croco) hide armor.

>>26012943
also, didn't OP say that humans would likely require boats to attack us?

>>26012946
My bad, I should of checked.

>>26012836

Changing my vote to deal with the emissary like this

also i second the idea of patrols

and the research of camouflage

>>26012966
yeah, he did. That should be good. We should get a store of big(-ish) rocks that we could throw at them to sink any ships they might be bringing. Or just a big rope boom within athhansd-whachit range.

Trap ideas:
-underwater trip lines
-underwater spiked pits

>>26012984
seconding

however, we are going to need another spawning pool soon, and food to feed them

>>26013034
I assume our foodsource simply aren't selreplinishing at the moment because it's winter. The youg hatch in spring, when our foodsources will also increase in productivity. I guess we don't have to expand them until late summer. IF we make it through the winter.

>>26012768
The Emissary (16-2)
"I want his heart on a spit! EMRARYE THE INTRUDER!" roars Tarakanov, brandishing his own vorpal blade. The sentries let fly a volley of javelins, but the wizard slams the butt of his staff into the ground and a wave of energy knocks the projectiles harmlesssly away. "Fools!" he shouts at the Dragon Priest. "This was your warning! Now comes judgment! SHEE-AH-KAHZING!" The wizard claps his hands and disappears in a blinding explosion, leaving behind only smoke.

F. Permanent scout patrols (5-3)
Two parties of five-scale each are directed to patrol the forest surrounding Oziliken until further notice. Unfortunately, one is lost and never seen again, without a trace. (5 lost, 5 detached from settlement, but every turn gets a roll to see if they find something)

F. Traps (18-2)
The lizardmen successfully set up some well-hidden man-catchers and bamboo spike traps in the forest around Oziliken, mapping them carefully so as not to be killed by them. No mishaps.

It's early January. The bestiary is finished, and training of crocodiles for various purposes can begin.

Oziliken
Pick any 2 actions:
A. Scavenge/hunt for food.
B. Research technology (1/2 speed)
C. Assemble a raiding party to attack the humans.
D. Expand the settlement.
E. Train (magic, tactics, beasts)

Population: 74 in settlement, 5 patrolling (32 eggs)
Food: 1 turns' worth. (not quite self-sustaining)
Infrastructure: Spawning pool, expanded floating gardens, fisheries, bestiary, 4 huts + longhouse (houses 120).
Weapons & Armor: Bamboo spears, javelins, hide shields, iron axes, macahuitl, vorpal swords, hide armor, atlatl.
Tech: Wood Working, Advanced Tactics, Agriculture, Fisheries, Body Armor.
Magic: Lemprai (Fireball), Gyandat (Conjure Fire Elemental)
Defenses: Sturdy palisade (wooden), spiked barricades (wooden), crocodile moat.

>>26013034
I will second you on the spawning pool next turn unless something comes up also the crocfarm isnt just guard dogs people we have been eating them so we should finish adding that Bestiary

>>26013099
>dat wizard
welp. gg, guys. Until then:
A: fud
E: Beasts!

>>26013099
...so the wizard escapd. big shocker there. Stop thinking with your atlats, you dense fucks.

>>26013099
C. Assemble a raiding party to attack the humans.

E. Train magic

>>26013099
will the patrol that was lost be replaced automatically? if not i would like to replace it

E Train magic

E train beasts

>>26012768
GT i know you said our troops where as ready as they could be without combat experience after we'd trained them but that was before we made atlatls are we still at that level of readiness?

>>26013139
We don't want to attack them (at least not in the winter). If we bring the fight to them, they'll have their walls and everything. It'll suck. Instead, we want them out in the swamp where they have to deal with the water, the traps, everything that we love.

>>26013149
They're still good to go.

As an update, I'll be off in about 1.5 hours here, so I'll archive this thread then or something. I live on a warship, so getting internet access is tough, so this game might not even pick up til next weekend ><

>>26013099
Annoyed-disappointed by tribe kins actions.

A: Capture-breed more foodsources!
E: Train pet-killer crocodiles!

>>26013099
Train tactics
train beasts
Be prepared for an assault

>>26013183
booooo. It was fun, OP.

>>26013099

We have one turn of food left guys we need food

D. Make new spawning pits

A. Hunt in the direction opposite of the humans

>>26013188
Also any way we could get nets?

just throwing it out there, that the mining village very very likely got reinforcements from the main kingdom

>>26013099
D. Build a sentry post/watch tower in the trees around the village
A. Hunt

>>26013099
E. crocs

take the precautions that i stated (a ring of torches outside the moat, a bunches torches inside) first
but if that's a free action then B. gilysuits

>>26013245
this person is correct, get ready

>>26013099
E. Beasts (2-2) :c
The minute a lizardman tries to plant his bottom on one of the larger crocodiles, it rolls viciously and takes a bite out of the stunned lizard's throat. The other potential beastmasters are too frightened to attempt to mount a croc until some method of securing a lizard to his mount is devised.

(as a note, our magic users are as competent as they'll be without formal education)
A. Food (11-2)
Fishing wild game in the waters around Oziliken has become scarce with the development of the pond and its lands, but a party of ten hunters goes into the forest and returns with enough food for 2 turns.

Late January. One of our scout parties hasn't reported back in ten days, and is replaced by another five man team. (6-2) (16-2) One of them finds an abandoned camp, but trashing it reveals no intel on the whereabouts of the humans or their plans.

Oziliken
Pick any 2 actions:
A. Scavenge/hunt for food.
B. Research technology (1/2 speed)
C. Assemble a raiding party to attack the humans.
D. Expand the settlement.
E. Train (magic, tactics, beasts)

Population: 69 in settlement, 10 patrolling (32 eggs)
Food: 2.5 turns' worth. (not quite self-sustaining)
Infrastructure: Spawning pool, expanded floating gardens, fisheries, bestiary, 4 huts + longhouse (houses 120).
Weapons & Armor: Bamboo spears, javelins, hide shields, iron axes, macahuitl, vorpal swords, hide armor, atlatl.
Tech: Wood Working, Advanced Tactics, Agriculture, Fisheries, Body Armor.
Magic: Lemprai (Fireball), Gyandat (Conjure Fire Elemental)
Defenses: Sturdy palisade (wooden), spiked barricades (wooden), crocodile moat.

I see now that it is always a mistake to leave humans alone. The tribe should have been killing them all this time. That was the command of our god Otimgo. That we did not follow his scaly wisdom is our downfall. All worthwhile things flow from Otimgo. Not with our claws but with his might are we advanced.

>>26013339
D bestiary

D spawning pool

>>26013359
didn't we attack them twice? and only stop because we were low on numbers and winter happened

>>26013377
>we already have a bestiary

E train beasts as gaurds

>>26013339
D. Build platforms in the trees so that javelin throwers with atlatls could hurl projectiles at attackers from above. Sentries could also use these platforms to see enemies from afar.

A. Hunt for and stockpile more food. We may be in for a siege.

>>26013339
B. Resarch camouflage for our Scouts

D. Build new spawning pools

Also GT how screwed are we?

>>26013339
E: Make Glorious-Cunning leaders come up wih tactics of how to beat filthy-backstabing humans.

D: Expand-Improve traps surrounding the village!

>>26013407
I thought we didn't finish it because it would take two turns i'm pretty sure we have a half finished bestiary

>>26013429
replace E with >>26013427
>B. Resarch camouflage for our Scouts

>>26013339

Just caught up, then saw >>26013183 's post.
...now I'm sad.

Until then, I say:

A). We need more food. Food is crucial.
E). Tactics
OR
B).

If these disgusting fleshlings are giving us trouble, we gotta get ready to wipe the floor with 'em. And find ways to do it.

Side note:
Insects...aren't s-so bad. They're just...misunderstood.
Juzzt give them a chanzze...

>>26013419
change my beast training to this

>>26013448
see >>26013099
>It's early January. The bestiary is finished, and training of crocodiles for various purposes can begin.

>>26013339
D. spawning pool
E.scout for humans

>>26013395
Cold is nothing to one who believes in Otimgo.
E. Train our tactics
C. Attack the humans before they are ready and then lead them into traps
Burn them all.

>>26013339
D: raised guard-towers
D: traps

>>26013463
thirded

>>26013470
Ah my bad

>>26013448
it's done. That other turn counted as one.

>>26013427
Eeehhh... depends on what the cult does from here on in, right? c:

>votes confusing the shit outta me, hope I got this right

>>26013339
C, listen to this, the Holy Word of Otimgo, and heed it's advice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE
Other action is whatever is most voted for.

>>26013521
the tribe's leaders are pretty confused, too. Like hadless chicken. Let's see what makes the race!

>>26013521
It seems like making raised guard towers in the trees and stockpiling food are winning out so far
A and D

>>26013531
There is only one option, be paranoid and kill the humans before they kill us, think of every action with humans behind it!

That Orc was a Human wizard in disguise, to find out where we live, and how many lizards we have!

Trust no-one, except Otimgo!

>>26013339
Food and towers seems to be the turn but people we NEED more lizards to over run the foolish humans and for that we need more spawning pools

>>26013245
I'm scared that you may be right. The liege lord of the territory around Underhill is understandably pissed, and I'm sure he's reinforced the garrison to defend against raids from the swamp tribes. We need to train the next brood as quickly as possible after it matures so we can strike.

>>26013606
the lizards will arrive half a year later. And it just hapens that again and again more pressing hsort-term goals pop up.

>>26013606
Humans are a problem now. Eggs do not kill. Eggs now not kill humans now. Leave village And sacrifice all eggs to Otimgo to transform us into halfdragons for a day. Kill humans.

>>26013606
We can build another spawning pool next turn. The fourth brood likely wouldn't be mature until the fall or even next winter, though, and we can't delay too much. Once the third brood is mature, we need to train and make our attack as soon as summer comes. As I stated before, I have a hunch that the lord of Underhill requested reinforcements and will be anticipating reprisal, so we need as many men as we can get.

>>26013643
He won't even acknowledge our faith in him until we destroy the humans with our own powers to prove our faith in Otimgo

>>26013634
i suppose i just hope we don't forget

>>26013630
its a mining town, depending on what theyre mining the kingdom will send reinforcements, if its coal its not important but if its gold/silver ect then we can expect a force to protect it.

i vote we scout their mines to see what it is

D. Canopy defenses (15-2)
Preparing for the eventuality of attack on their no-longer-hidden village, the dragon cult works tirelessly to get raised platforms built in the treeline, the better from which to rain projectiles upon invaders. What the lizardmen lack in hauling innovation they make up for in drive and climbing ability.

A. Food (1-2) (I don't even know how to represent a negative... wait yes I do.)
Another hunting party is sent out to gather meat for the growing hatchlings. Game is sparse, and the reason becomes apparent when a crossbow quarrel buries itself in the neck of head scout Usuno. Choking on his own blood, he rasps, "Back, b-brothers, they must not catch us... un... un... unawar-"

Before the warrior can finish his sentence, seven more bolts fly out of hiding and three more lizardmen are injured! Heeding their leader's order, the remaining lizards flee into the brush, scattering every which way to get back to Oziliken. Of the six, four make it back.

It is early February. (13-2) (15-2) The patrols discover nothing of note.

Oziliken
Pick any 2 actions:
A. Scavenge/hunt for food.
B. Research technology (1/2 speed)
C. Assemble a raiding party to attack the humans.
D. Expand the settlement.
E. Train (magic, tactics, beasts)

Population: 63 in settlement, 10 patrolling (32 eggs)
Food: 2.5 turns' worth. (not quite self-sustaining)
Infrastructure: Spawning pool, expanded floating gardens, fisheries, bestiary, 4 huts + longhouse (houses 120).
Weapons & Armor: Bamboo spears, javelins, hide shields, iron axes, macahuitl, vorpal swords, hide armor, atlatl.
Tech: Wood Working, Advanced Tactics, Agriculture, Fisheries, Body Armor.
Magic: Lemprai (Fireball), Gyandat (Conjure Fire Elemental)
Defenses: Sturdy palisade (wooden), spiked barricades (wooden), crocodile moat, canopy defenses.

>>26013681
Losing sibling-kin fast! Need to do something or tribe is lost-doomed!

D: Spawning pool not large enough. Expand!
A: Hunt-Breed poisonous animals for sneaky-deadly weapons!

>>26013681
If only we had Camouflage we could sneak up on them

B. Develop Camouflage

i say spend this turn training the patrolmen who by now know the swamps better then anyone and train them to use guerrilla tactics to kill and evade the humans using the camouflage we develop

>>26013681
C, we need to attack them with our mages and a strong force, beat them down and show that killing us won't be easy! I hope they like Fire Elementals on their wood walls.
E, We need better warriors.

>>26013681

>Mfw someone prematurely archives the thread
>Mfw that someone missspells a tag
>Mfw I'm that someone

Sorry, OP.

>>26013681
Scavenge for food again

Gotta research some defense tech like walls in our settlement

>>26013745
i vote this too

>>26013681
GT how would you say is our religious zeal towards Otimgo?

>>26013681
D. Build a new spawning pool
The benefits of doing this aren't immediately apparent, but we'll have many more men for farming, war, and building in the long term

E. Train crocs
We'll need the crocs in the moat to be ferocious. If they can ram boats and capsize them, it will help us immensely.

>>26013746
Our warriors are already trained to the max.

And I don't think it's a good idea to show we're stil lan actual threat to the humans. They might just get even more reinforcements.

>>26013681
D spawning pool, our problems will only get bigger, and if we do not have the forces to meet these challenges we will fall

D more farms, we must be self sufficient or the siege will starve us out

good luck scale-brothers

Rolled 96

>>26013770
We wipe them out we get a dragon on our side, or we can let them dig in and then kill all of us.
We need to attack before there's no chance left for us.

>>26013681
Research mud bricks
Reinforce walls against crossbows

>>26013748
>lel

>>26013765
it's fucking hot. Your boys would die for Otimgo, and they have, readily.

Unfortunately, mine is not so hot. looks like it's time for me to go guys >< duty calls. I'll update the archive for this in a bit and continue this story at a completely arbitrary time on a random day this week.

>>26013825
Try not to drown your seamen!
Thanks, for the quest.

>>26013825
Thanks for another fun session, OP!

We need to wipe them all out at once. That means either being really powerful, guerilla warfare, or striking back after killing most of them with traps, etc. I vote the later 2: harry them until they come attack and get killed by the traps more than us.

E: guerilla tactics
E: beast bridals (or whatever we need to control them)

>>26013825
...so not just next weekend as a set time? Oh boy, it's gonna be fun trying to find this thread again.

Also, archive:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Culf%20of%20Otimgo

>>26013825

My only regret is that I caught up too late...
Later, GT. Thanks for the entertaining quest and I hope to see you next time...whenever that is.

>>26013866
He said his internet access is pretty shoddy so I guess that's why he doesn't have a set time

>>26013866
If nothing else, it'll probably kick off again late Friday, but the way my ship likes to do it's thing who knows @_@ I probably will get off at some point during the week, but I never know for how long or what have you.

>>26013866
>culf

lel

i hope to see you gentlemen on other civ threads, good day

If you guys need another civ game fix, I believe that the Children of the Mountain Troll Civ thread's next installment takes place tomorrow. It's worth checking out!

>>26013929
oh, thanks for the heads up!

>>26013929
and the insect thread is still going, Insect Lord Farez just took the weekend off to have a life, but it'll be back to normal soon