>>28217272
That's interesting. Of course certain colors would be much more powerful than others. I don't see purple doing you much good.

Why not make things that are of your color, I can see a purple wizard with a army of purple dummies with movable hands to grip things as quite powerful as they'd have a army at their command, so long as they stand on a hill overlooking said army and the army didn't need to break line of sight.

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>>28217272
>As like, in a room with a red stained glass wizard of red gets control over more things
Game over.

>>28217272
>So far the weakest one I could think about is wizard of purple because he's stuck with grapes and plums.

>>28217519
>Of course certain colors would be much more powerful than others. I don't see purple doing you much good.

Note to self: try to actually read all of a post before responding to it.

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>>28217864
Congratulations, you now control these sunglasses!
Silly anon, I thought about that too. Full form is "As it is seen by healthy unobstructed view". So your wizard of red with daltony can't control green.

pisswizard.jpg

this is an interesting idea

Brown is pretty powerful, because bark, dirt and negroes. And dirty water (most rivers). And poo. Come at me, bro. I'll wreck your shit. And your brown hair and/or brown eyes.

>>28217272
Variously colored golems would be big. Of course, painting them wouldn't be enough. Wizard Purple would need to construct a golem out of only purple materials to make it work. So Wizards with stronger colors still kind of end up on top.

>>28217272
>paint dangerous stuff purple
>fun times for purple mages

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>>28217519
>>28217899
Purple being such a never seen and so useless color, every non-mage would try to use purple material as anti-mage material, so every weapon would be purple. Then Mages of purple would naturally become useful.

The fact that a non-colored thing cannot exist makes automatically every mage useful. The apparently less common color would become more common especially because of their rarity, and so, after a while, the entire world would look like a rainbow.

Ultimately, the only true limit of mages in this paradigm is the only-one-color-controled-at-a-time rule. A thing constantly changing its color couldn't be controled for long and would be practically immune to magic.

>>28217272
How would a robe, created from fibers constructed from variously colored natural things and therefore multicolored, react to attempted Wizardry?

>>28217989
>>28218248
Fuck I was gonna to point out that this thing could go magical realm pretty fast.

>>28218383
>The fact that a non-colored thing cannot exist

What about clear stuff?

>>28218455
A X-color-Mage would only be able to control the X-colored part of the robe. So if the different colors are mixed, he would kind of control a X-colored skeleton of the non-X-colored part of the robe (that would be a weight).

>>28218466
Right, I didn't think about it.

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>>28217272
If I don't control the intern parts of the objects (like brain or blood), if I only control the visible part of the objects, then I only control their SURFACE. Isn't it a bit useless ? (Except for translucid things)

>>28218549
To be fair, a lot of clear stuff(like water) is very easily colored by light

Which makes me wonder- can a Orange Mage control water during the sunset? WOuld he be limited to moving the water in such a way that it continued to reflect orange light, losing control if he lost the reflection?

Maybe purple wizards have partial control over red and blue things?.

>>28218599
Well, I can only touch the external layer of molecules with my external layer of molecules, but I still manage to affect the world with my hands

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>>28218520
>A X-color-Mage would only be able to control the X-colored part of the robe. So if the different colors are mixed, he would kind of control a X-colored skeleton of the non-X-colored part of the robe (that would be a weight).
Exactly!
>>28218248
Only naked negroes, for better or worse.

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>>28218628
the fact that red and blue are primary colors is only a convention. We could as well select as primary colors Xblig, Wlop and Gwarb. Therefore, if purple wizards control red and blue things just because purple = red + blue in a certain abstract and artificial paradigm, then every color controls every other.

>>28218628
I think we should just accept that not all colors are equal

I mean, black is gonna be hella bullshit no matter how we try to buff purple, so we might as well accept asymmetric warfare as a fact of the matter

Also- Red/Orange/Yellow mage scorches something with Fire, Black Mage then assumes direct control! C-c-c-c-Combo!

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>>28218617
Moreover, he has to see water from surface level. ...Why would he want that, anyway?

>>28217272
colorblind wizard of brown is OP, pls nerf

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...So how do we roll for colors: RGB or CMYK?

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>>28218727
Are you really asking 'why would a wizard want to use his powers in an exceedingly trivial and situational manner?'

>>28218776
http://www.thonky.com/random-hex-color/

>become purple mage
>carry around an opened purple can of purple paint
>control paint
>spalsh paint over things
>control everything

>>28218599
What sounds more useful would be a different definition - Only slightly different, but an important one.

"Magic is the manipulation of things As They Seem, rather than As They Are."

This would let you do things like bend space because the distance looks less or more than it is, or walk through a picture of a door because it looks like a door.

However, before a Wizard can use his magic first he has to slap Reality in the face and make it his bitch. Basically, he has to "convince" the world that everything is as it looks, and he does this by using "preparation" magic to make physics start to get wonky.

For instance, if he was to paint a brown dot and say that it's a portal to another world, then he'd first have to infuse it with magic and "convince" the world that it's Brown through-and-through before he can properly manipulate it: In reality it's brown paint over, say, concrete, but when the Magician is done with his Prep-phase, it becomes ACTUALLY brown all the way through.

That takes care of the problem with things being the wrong color, and explains a lot about why rituals and the pre-magical prep work are so necessary. Most of Magic is actually just preparing reality holes ahead of time, and Wizard's Duels are a lot like two people trying to ascertain who's version of reality is really real.

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>>28218800
What is this, Greyish/Bluish/White?

Not bad. I can probably manipulate water vapor most of the time, and it's not a terribly uncommon color for stones.

It's almost the color of Yotsuba B...

>>28218863

4chan-o-mancy!

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>wizard of orange
>carries a flamethrower
>team tank
>team buys him a new flamethrower so he can be more precise
>its a gas powered welding gun
>team's face when pulling out "the big guns"

>>28218810

All mages do that, so its no use.

Idea: Purple mages specialize in the few things that are actually purple, and so, they make all the potions in the world because they can manipulate grapes and wine.

So like if I'm a wizard of red and I wear rose-colored glasses, am I OP or is it not the same because others don't see the same reality I do?

>>28218909
Look at this : >>28217965

>>28218831
That sounds fucking awesome. Also like it would be an absolute bitch to crunch.

>>28218909

>>28217965

I CHOSE PINK MAGE
ARE YOU LAUGHING FAGET?
GUESS WHAT COLOR YOUR SHITTY SKIN IS

>Wizard Duel is arranged
>Blanket consisting of thread woven half of one's color, half of the others
>Try to envelop the other wizard

Short list of powahs:
White - snow, skeletons
Gray - metal, srones, clouds, dust
Black - ground, tar
Red - dim fire, blood
Orange - fire, bronze
Yellow - bright fire, gold
Green - plants
Blue - waters
Purple - grapes
Brown - clay, chocolate

>>28218746
>>28218909
See >>28217965

I am the Blind Mage. I have no concept of color. I have no concept of magic. I am totally immune to the surnatural powers of the Gods. I am the Chosen One.

>>28218964

I choose white mage. Suddenly you are all blind, as i fly in my motherfucking magic cloud and make my jizz a fucking weapon

>>28218964
Brown, mah nigga.

I don't even need to be a pink mage to have power over all that succulent pink pussy

> be a grape
> learn purple magic
> turn self into giant grape super monster with a great axe
> also can drink wine from self

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>>28218964
Joke's on you, I have full body armor! Masks and gloves will be quite useful too.

>>28218831
That sounds... really cool.

>>28219054
C'mon anon, we both know that you are going to wear a pink armor.

Purple actually is just a mix of red and blue.

The true colour is violet.

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>>28219087
>Year 213 of Pastel Wars
>not wearing pink

>>28218383
>after a while, the entire world would look like a rainbow

>Be mage hunter
>have rainbow tattoos
>rainbow clothes
>rainbow everything
>SNEAK ATTACK!

I like this world.

>>28217272
>>28218990
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigengrau
>Eigengrau (German: "intrinsic gray"), also called Eigenlicht ("intrinsic light"), dark light, or brain gray, is a term for the uniform dark gray background that many people report seeing in the absence of light.
What is the color of Thought ? Eigengrau. What is the color of Being and Nihil ? Eigengrau. What if the ultimate goal of every mage was to one day find the true Eigengrau, All-Powerful Color of Everything and Nothingness ?

Also thing about Octarine, the color of magic from Pratchett's Discworld novels...

>>28219142
Shit son, that's sweet too. So is the Wizard Color determined at birth, or do you study a color for decades to unlock it's secrets and gain mastery over it?

>>28219180
Maybe a bit of both ?

>>28219223
Maybe an affinity for a broad colour selection, like orangeish-yellowy, that can be refined through training. Mastering colours outside that range is even more difficult, but not impossible.

>>28218863
>>28218872
Congrats, you become a mod.

So like...Can water just not be controlled or is it entirely dependent on what's seen through it (or how it's generally "perceived" as the case may be?) Like could a mage of blue have some control of the water on the high seas? Would a mage of brown be able to control murky water? What if I just have clear water in a red bowl and I can control red?

>>28219357
none of that 'mage' shit, we're talking Wizards.

And I assume the Wizards would have context-appropriate power over the water.

>>28217272
Tinted glasses.

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>>28219411
This creates an interesting situation. Take the lake with sandy bottom. Wizard of yellow can control it only from above, while wizard of blue - from ground level and from underwater. ...Fucking optics, man.
Also, in the night both are useless if they have no light and sky is dim.

>>28219467
we've been over this...
>>28217965

>>28219529
Oh, so it's arbitrary as hell, gotcha

What about colored flashlights? Or stained glass lanterns.

>>28217899
You forget that royalty wears purple.

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>>28219653
As long as you keep the ray on. Also, for example, red light will not reflect from green surface, resulting in black.

Could you imagine the BBEG to a setting that used this system? Towering translucent crystal shield with a chain sword made out of glass. His skin turned reflective and luminous. Inside a demonic heart that, with each beat, displays a new magnificent color of light. His blood pumps rainbows and his skull is as >>28219722 , only more. His one wicked ambition, to destroy the righteous congregation of mages that brought peace to human civilization a thousand years ago.

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>>28220061
And his minions are air elemantals, chameleons and Mary-Sues?

>>28220144
He's kind of like Spawn, Ghost Rider, or the Nazguls. He wanted power so badly that it didn't matter what he was going to do with it. He sold his free will to the Chaos Demon Prince who had a deep seated hatred of the wizards. It doesn't matter who he was or what he wanted, he's now solely an instrument for chaos.

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>>28220265
Fucking generic origins, Anon. Can't think of anything more interesting than that?

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How specific do these colors get? Are you going to see Red Wizards, or Alizarin Crimson Wizards?

>>28217788
But they'd have to be made of something naturally purple, or the dye/paint would wear off quickly as per OP's rules, leaving the army open to suborning by a wizard of brown, say

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>>28220342
Van dyke brown wizards!

>>28218466
There aren't many things that are truly clear, though they may appear so to us in certain circumstances e.g. water is blue, glass is green but both appear clear in small amounts, or from certain angles.

That raises an interesting question too; beetles, butterflies and some bird feathers irridesce and so appear multicoloured but the actual pigments in the scales are often dull browns, but what colour wizard gets power over them?

Question, is ultra-violet a color on this spectrum? UV wizard layers everything to oblivion by pulling all the UV light from the surrounding area.

>>28220317
Making it generic adds to the humor. It's more ironic that way. Every villain would use methods like that, so why would I bother thinking up something original when it's more about the setting than the characters?

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>>28220506
Filling your story with cliches and stereotypes is not funny by itself. You need to creatively apply and interpret those generic aspects in new and humorous ways.

Pic very much related.

>>28219674
True, but it's a dye, and as OP said using magic on dyed things fades the colour faster, you'd have lots of pissed off emperors arranging purple-witch hunts as they notice all their robes faidng and realising they've been played for suckers by said purple wizards

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>>28220061
The only way to stop him is for all the ancient Orders of the Spectrum to join forces, but they have grown complacent and arrogant, with deep boundaries dividing them. Only the Chosen One, who sees no color, can save them; the world lies in the hands of Spot, the best friend a guy could have.

>>28217272
>Paint can be used too, but when affected by magic it wears off much, much faster as "natural" colors oppose the magic.

Does this only apply to paints? Dyes are 'natural', so they're fair game, yeah?

>>28220458
That's not how it works, but theoretically yes, he can control everything lighted by sun. But he's shit compared to IR wizard, which can control anything warm-blooded and hot stuff.

>>28220640
Also, wizard must be at proximity to said monarch.
Darn purple sniperwizards with their spyglasses!

>>28220733
I'm using this magic system.

>>28220802
And they all get pwned by microwave wizard who controls the universe through his ability to manipulate the CMB

>>28217519
It gives you control over the emperor of rome.
Or at least his clothes.

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>>28220579
>that story

>>28220927
I thought the emperor's new clothes were invisible?

>>28221008
They are now. Fucking purple wizards.

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How about the main villian is the only black mage to be born in thousands of years? They could be attempting to block out the son, and gain complete control.

>>28221112
Having ultimate control in night time and shadows does seem quite villainish.

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>>28221112
>>28221216

>>28221262
Only now do I appreciate just how goshdarn ridiculous that was.

>>28220342
A rookie would be Alizarin Crimson. Only a true archmage can control the entirety of Red.

How would Pink and Turquoise work? They are colors that don't actually exist, blank spots in the light spectrum that our brains fill in.

>>28221327
I'm gonna need a reputable source on that one.

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"I AM THE SALMON MAGE!!!"
You control salmons?

>>28221317
So the more skilled you are, the larger your domain?

Are you born with inherent power over a very specific color? Or is this a magic you study?

>>28221356
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/03/07/does-the-color-pink-exist-scientists-arent-sure/

>>28221356
http://www.biotele.com/magenta.html
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/03/07/does-the-color-pink-exist-scientists-arent-sure/

Basically, Pink light is a mixture of Red light and Magenta light, which exist on opposite sides of the light spectrum. I did misremember Turquoise though, that is a real color.

>>28221485
Did I say Magenta? I meant Violet.

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What if only the color-blind could become color mages? They are born only being able to see certain colors, so a salmon mage can only see salmon. As they "lvl up" they begin to be able to see more colors. The black mage would be blind, and be completely ok with the world being pitch black.

>>28217272
>in a completely dark room wizard of black can control everything
Well, not really because he wouldn't be able to see anything.

>>28221608
What if he had night vision goggles? They make stuff look green but we already established that glasses changing colors doesn't change the apparent color for the wizard.

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...Can black mage control air in the dark?

>>28221619
I don't understand how being in darkness makes things black. Lack of light doesn't change what color things would refract said light at. It being dark doesn't make things a different color.

How far would the control of an object with a specific color go though? Is it just selective telekinesis or can they also affect the properties of the object?
Green wizard is neat if you can control the growth of green plants, but if you just can lift them off the ground, it becomes a bit useless.

>>28221669
If you take away the luminance dependance color wizards become too limited. Like a... Hue wizards?

>>28221735
Well, white and black aren't colors anyway, they are shades

>>28221669
The simple answer is just that black ain't a color. Anything that's "black" is really just an extremely dark hue of a color.

>>28221716
maybe they could modify some aspects of the things, like shape, weigth, size apart from telekinesis, and in some cases affect the way they work: making plants grow faster, animals be stronger, people go faster, weather effects be more powerfull etc.

>>28221669
The color of an object isn't what it would look like if a white light was lighting it, it's just what color it is when you look at it.

>>28221850
No 'negative' effects? I like it. Then you don't have to worry about brown wizards exploding niggers.

You know, in this world it would probably end up that there would only be one wizard of any given color, seeing as a wizard of red wouldn't want any other wizard of red controlling the shit he is controlling, so he would kill every other red wizard out there, making him master of anything red

>>28221885
well it could happen, but you are right, it would lead easily in Magical Realm, well, realm

>>28221958
is not the same in any setting with wizards?

>>28220391
Bob Ross is the archmage, master of all colors.

>>28222175
Actually in this world, artist probably are wizards of tremendous power, creating a very artistic community and culture.

>>28221776
Who cares. A black wizard would still be a great late arc BBEG for something in this system.

>>28221448
Here's an idea: when an infant displays potential for magic (how? loldunno), he is brought to the wizard clan/guild of the matching color. There, the child and his peers learn of the magical world of color.
Once the child comes of age, he must shed the name his parents gave him and journey to the Color Wheel to be given a new name - this one given by the Gods of Light themselves (Hong, Azul and Kijani). It will reflect what his color truly is. What HE truly is.
For example: Bradley Smythe becomes Burgundy Smythe of House Red.

>>28220640
Actually, OP said painted things wear out faster. I imagine the same wouldn't be true for dyes.
After all, paints just cover the surface. Dyes soak through. It's not just covered in blue, it IS blue.
It's the difference between manipulating a marionette by pulling strings attached to limbs and manipulating a puppet by sticking your hand inside it.

I just realized we could make a very similar game to time wizards with this.

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