>>28522887
>[ ]LET IT

>>28522887
>>[ ] Beat it to the base
Can't use a sedative... we might need it at the top of its game. If we're going to leave, we leave.

>>28522887
[ ] beat it to the base
We gotta wake everyone up before Carnage is right on top of them

>>28522887

>Fight the abomination.

>>28522887
>>[ ] Beat it to the base

>[X] Beat it to the base

We need more than one person, we need a A team to kill carnage.

Agent venom, spiderman, omega, Alice and the doc.

>>28522887
>[ ] Beat it to the base

>>28522887
>Beat it to the base
Tell the Symbiote that we're probably gonna fight Carnage soon enough if it's headed for the base.

Only our chances of victory would be increased.

>>28522887
>[ ] Beat it to the base
MAINTAIN
CONTROL
First rule of combat.

>>28522887
>beat it to the base
REV UP THOSE WILL CHECKS

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Operators gunna operate

>>28522887
We're one of the ones who are presumed dead by the bunny, right?

>>28522887
>>[ ] Beat it to the base
Damn it, suit, no. You're a symbiote, you should understand the idea of working with others for mutual benefit. We can fight it after we get backup. Monster vs. monster is a harder fight than monster vs. monster and his friends with grenades.

>>28522887
>[ ] Beat it to the base

>>28522887
Let it.


Almost looked past this quest with the picture being different.

>>28522887
>[X] Beat it to the base
"Patience, Venom. We shall kill the abomination on our own terms, on our own turf, and with backup. It shall not escape our full wrath."

>>28522887
>[ ] Beat it to the base
Chide Venom for not understanding tactical retreating

>>28522919
Assuming its the same base.It didn't seem like the Wonderland facility (for if they have Alice and a White Rabbit they deserve the stupid nickname) had any connection with the military. They might be an independent resistance group.

Rolled 1 + 4

>Beat it to the base

Alright- time for you to remain in control!
>1d20+3 willpower, then. DC is as above

>>28523015
Still a fight like this is better with blackup.

>>28523015
Well Carnage is on our trail so far, doesn't make sense for him to lose it now.

Rolled 10 + 3

>>28523031

Rolled 5 + 3

>>28523031
Easy.

Rolled 1 + 3

>>28523031
okay...

Rolled 19 + 3

>>28523031
>Rolled 1d20: 1 + 4
Right.

Rolled 1 + 3

>>28523031
Do critical failures apply to the symbiote?

Rolled 15 + 3

>>28523031
Guess old blackie didn't want it that bad after all.

Thanks for keeping the hype train rolling!

>>28523044
You actually lost to it.

Impressive.

Rolled 18 + 4

>>28523031
...Looks like the symbiote isn't all that into putting up a fight?

>>28523031
I forget, what happens when Cosgrove rolls a critfail?

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>>28523044
GOD DAMN YOU.

>>28523044
WHY!!!

>>28523044
Welp. Let's burn that VP to avoid FLASH SMASH

>>28523044
>>28523048

I sort of expected that. No surprises really.

Rolled 17 + 3

>>28523031
...
Auto-success?

>>28523031
Do ours ones auto fail since he rolled a one as well?

>>28523031
>>28523044
Epic fail

>>28523044
God damn it. Can we say a crit fail on each side cancel each other out and we reroll?

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>>28523044
Are you fucking with me?

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>>28523044
>>28523048

>>28523044
Are you serious?

Let's use a Venom Point.

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>>28523044
>>28523031

>>28523077
>Flash Hulks out, but it's only his face

>>28523090
The madness has overtaken me

Venom point used.

Fucking Parker luck is getting to us.

>>28523090
Seriously though, since rolling a one is the same as making a dice roll equal zero, didn't we meet the dc?

>>28523071
>>28523088
Agreed. Venom Point. Assuming those work the same way as Spectacular Points do, obviously.

Do critical failures as other characters still contribute to Parker Luck? I'd assume they don't, but given how terribad Peter's Luck is I don't want to take that chance.

>>28523090

and on that amazing note, I need to go be unconscious, I'm driving to work tomorrow instead of napping on mass transit...holy mother of fuck why is it after 3am?
Ah well, good quest tonight, Cosgrove.

Good night everyone.

>>28523090
IT TIME FOR FULL KUBO!!!

THE RETURN OF UNCHAINED COSGROVE

START PRAYING

>>28523090
I can only imagine both symbiotes spasm and we just run into each other head 1st. Literally.

>>28523031
>>28523044
Flash and the symbiote get into a "I don't know, man, what do you want to do" loop, losing track of carnage. By the time they've made up their mind, Carnage has destroyed the base.

>>28523090
>Both Venom and Flash decide fuck Carnage, lets go drinking

>>28523105
>didn't we meet the dc?
We're beaten in terms of modifiers alone then, if all else are equal.

>>28523119
Venom and flash comfirmed for pot heads. Smoking dat weed.

>>28523044
>>28523031
pretty gud :DDDDDDDDDD
Use a Venom Point

>Using a venom point, BEFORE an inevitable fight

>>28523148
But the modifiers don't matter on a critical failure, right?

>>28523110
No, let me explain how things work with Agent Venom- the more you crit fail, the more the Bond percentage goes up- 10% a crit fail.

>But, using a venom point does allow a reroll, thoguh it does not remove the bonding percentage increase- that's decreased by not having the symbiote on your- for ever 10%, it takes a week.

>Use the Venom point to redo the rolls?
y/n

>>28523186
Y

>>28523186
How long will we play as Venom?

>>28523186
Y

>>28523186
N

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>>28523186
N

>>28523186
Yes.

>>28523210
FOREVER. THIS IS VENOM QUEST NOW

>>28523210
Well, we can't go back into the past.

>>28523186
y

>>28523186
Oh boy.

We going to have to deal with Venom Points and Parker Luck in the future.

And yes. We literally can't go freak out now.

Rolled 17 + 5

>alright, then.

>1d20+3, dc is this roll.

Rolled 2

>>28523288
NATURAL 1

Rolled 4 + 3

>>28523288

Rolled 5 + 3

>>28523288

Rolled 20 + 3

>>28523288

>>28523288
Wish we'd kept the double 1s now.

>>28523311
FUCK YES

>>28523301
Aren't you glad you got the dice wrong?

>>28523311
Yeah. We Venom.

>>28523304
>>28523310
>>28523311
>Point spent
>Point replenished
In the future there is a more efficient, greener points system. Completely KUBO neutral.

>>28523311
Wow. I'm proud of myself. Like the 1st time I've ever rolled a 20 in Parker Quest

>>28523343
Well, we got +10% bonding. Not totally a wash.

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>>28523311
22 VS 23

WE WIN

>>28523359
All we have to do is take off our pants after we morph into a minigun and cut this thing into hamburger in the comfort of our own base.

>>28523388
If we have 50% bonding, we're going to need five weeks without wearing that thing to get back to normal.

Guys, about Peter - do we have his dad's hard drive on us? We could ask ROBOTS to decode it for us.

>>28523413
You do not.

>>28523359
that reminds me, what does bonding actually do?

>>28523413
Why would we be carrying that around with us when looking for a wizard? No we only have the statue.

>>28523406
Ya he's not going to be much help on the magical trip to Castle Von DOOM.

>>28523428
I would like to know as well, if you can tell us without an end of arc question.

>WILLPOWER OPPOSED-22,vs23(NATURAL 20- Venom Point Earned!)

The symbiote tries to wrestle control, tries to turn you both into a bloodthirsty monster.

You aren’t having any of it.

There’s too much at risk.

And the world’s got too many monsters in it already.

You force the symbiote back- for all the bloodlust it tries to give off you fight back with something worth protecting. Your friends. The innocent. A tomorrow worth living in.

The symbiote retreats, shamed as it hardens back into your armor as you extend a hand and shoot out a tendril that anchors itself into the building before the symbiote reels it in, drastically increasing your arrival speed. You kick on the front door- loudly. Again and again.

Fucking Phil, had to go and ruin your radio.

There’s movement and alarm inide. Just a little more until sunrise.

>[ ]Hold the line until the day breaks
>[ ]Let loose the leash on the symbiote
>[ ]Get inside
>[ ]Write in

>>28523413
What? Why would we have our most valuable possession with us while time travelling?

>>28523442
I'm guessing it makes it harder to resist the symbiote's PRIMAL INFLUENCE

>>28523474
>>[ ]Hold the line until the day breaks

>>28523474
[ ] Hold the line
The others will be out to back us up once they realize what's going on.

>>28523474
>[X]Hold the line until the day breaks

>>28523474
[X]Go to the roof.

>>28523474
HOLD
THE
LINE

>>28523474
[X]Get inside

>>28523474
>[ ]Write in

Set some explosive traps. If Flash has been through the Iraq War in this iteration, then he'll have first hand experience on how effective IEDs can be.

>>28523514
The game is set in current times; so Flash could not have partaken in that invasion.

>>28523474
>>[ ]Get inside
Need to get this thing off us.

>>28523488
Yeah, its probably this. The line between Flash and Venom begins to blur - makes it harder for either one to resist the other's desires, and the advantage of having two seperate minds working towards a problem begins to fade.

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>>28523474
>[ ]Hold the line with bullets until the day breaks

>writing

Why can't I hold all these lines?

Rolled 58

>going to need one thing.

>Roll me 1d100, roll under this result.

Rolled 9

>>28523682

Rolled 43

>>28523682

Rolled 23

>>28523682
FOR SATAN

Rolled 42

>>28523682
For god and countrymen

>>28523688
hell yes

Rolled 97

>>28523682
Okay.

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>>28523688
>>28523689
>>28523691
Fan fucking tastic.

>>28523695
Looks like my luck with those roll under d100 quests is still holding.

>>28522887
>Peter Parker
Forgive my lurkerness... isn't that Eugene "Flash" Thompson, the current Venom?

Rolled 20 + 3

>>28523749
We got perspective switched.

>>28523749
Yup, that's who we're playing as at the moment

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Line held
get fucked carnage

hype levels for tonight are off the charts

>>28523749
We temporarily switched to Flash.

>>28523749
Yes.

We're playing as him in a dystopian future.

Peter Parker is currently having a nap. In a dystopian future.

>>28523765
After he wakes up and we check in, we'll have pancakes.

In a dystopian future.

>>28523760
Sweet Jesus I'm sorry I didn't mean to waste that

Capatcha: puelial Wanda
What's Scarlet Witch doing anyways?

>>28523749
You realize there's a link to his stat sheet with his name on it right there, right? Go read the last thread instead of not understanding what's going on and getting lost.

>>28523776
And then we'll head out to meet DOOM and undo the future that is Carnage in a dystopian future.

>>28523776
>Pancakes after our nap
>Not french toast.

Truly a nightmare hellscape

>>28523785
According to tomorrow's issue of... I forget which title...

She's dead. Rogue kills her.

>>28523798
I don't like French toast. Can't eat eggs.

How about waffles? You like waffles? In a dystopian future?

>>28523819
Can they be walnut waffles? Or are we stuck with just buttermilk? In a dystopian future?

>>28523819
>waffles
>for breakfast

What. Next you're gonna tell me you don't eat them with chicken.

>>28523860
You are as crazy as Carnage, sir.

>>28523870
Both are southerners. It comes from the region.

>>28523801
I meant in the dystopian future. You'd think she would have genocided someone by now, but if she has we haven't heard about it.

>>28523845
We'll have to check the dystopian fridge. I'm hoping for pecans in the dystopian future.

>>28523860
>waffles
>with chicken
Nah, get some waffles, put fresh fruits and whipping cream on top, and add warm syrup. Breakfast of the gods.

>>28523904
Lol, nice one anon

I think it's clear at this point that we are getting close to breakfast time irl.

>>28523798
>Peter Parker
>Eating anything other than wheat cakes for breakfast
Bitch, do you even Aunt May?

>>28523960
Bitch, aunt May is dead. She's making breakfast for worms now.

>>28523969
Too soon mane.

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You turn around, seeing Carnage rushing towards the gate and pull out your rifle and shoot a grenade from it at the Beast- it slows as you begin a hail of automatic fire on it.

Letting the symbiote control that with a tendril, you take out your trusty sidearm and begin firing.

The hail of weaponry slows Carnage who is taking every hit. It slows to a slow gait before stopping in front of you as you notice the sound of metal.

Bullets drop to the ground as the holes in Carnage begin to fix themselves. Forming forearm blades, you charge towards Carnage. You just need to hold out. Just a few minutes more.

You exchange blow after blow, feeling yourself weaken. The symbiote can only take so much punishment. As you knock back Carnage with one last uppercut, you let out a sigh of relief.

Here comes the sun.

Carnage snarls as its form begins to shrink, retreating to a human form. As it gets up, your eyes widen.

“Wreeeeeeeeeeeee…”

No, it couldn’t be-

>1/2

>>28524022
>No, it couldn’t be-
Refreshrefreshrefreshrefreshrefreshrefresh

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>>28524022
The wall in front of you crumbles as a figure flies through and into the center, collapsing. The Doktor hurries to the form which looks like some tacticool black version of your outfit before letting out a sigh of relief.

Alice drops to her knees, clutching at her head and letting out howls of anguish.

From the clouds of dust you hear footsteps and a quiet cry. One, then another, than another as the dust clears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M

The figure walks into the room as if their presence their was a given. Your eyes widen in shock as the figure looks at you as your spider sense blares.

LEFTKIDNEYRIGHTKIDNEYLIVERHEARTLUNGSARTERIESBRAIN

You drop to your knees at intense warnings hit you at once causing a sensory overload.

Not day older than you saw her last with her hair messily styled, Gwen Stacy smirks before pointing at you.

“At last, Peter, you’ve finally appeared- the key to giving me an invincible, immortal body is finally within my grasp!

“WREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

PETER PARKER QUEST 28
TO BE CONTINUED
>NEXT: The Fate of that Blood?

>>28524022
F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5

>>28524040
OH SHIT

>>28524040
DIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh man was she carnage all along or did carnage go for a newer body?

>>28524040
Next chapter... Fratricide

Thanks for running so long Cosgrove. Really enjoyed it.
Have a great thanksgiving.

Take it and bag it boys.

>>28524040
This one is being written from Peter's perspective, right? Oh, and fuck you for that ending music, god damn I need season 2 to start.

>>28524040
Well, that was a thing.

Thoughts, gents?

>not joestar
Quiet, you.

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>>28524022
>>28524040
Oh hey Cosgrove, just dropped in to see how the quest is progressing and--WWWWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAATTTT?!

>>28524040
Okay. Evil Gwen confirmed.

Which, given deductions regarding arc titles, means that both Gwen and Iron Man have ~probably~ gone evil and previoussly fought again MJ (who may or may not be Alice, but is still very likely someone who has had powers of some kind).

Also, next time we need to try and trick her iunto revealing original Carnage killer's identity.

>>28524064
We may never know.
Flash seems out of commission as does Alice. Peter better get his head in the game.

archive it

>>28524040
...Is it next Tuesday yet?

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>>28524040
YOU WERE EXPECTING MARY JANE?

TOO BAD, ITS ME! DI-I MEAN GWEN STACY!

>>28524064
MARY JANE WATSON VS GWEN STACY
Gwen won.

Almost killed MJ.

Carnage took her over.

MJ is Alice.

>>28524040
OH SHIIT!!!

GWEN WAS CARNAGE ALL ALONG

>>28524040
>“At last, Peter, you’ve finally appeared- the key to giving me an invincible, immortal body is finally within my grasp!

Well. Looks like she learned how to talk like a super villain.

And Alice is looking more and more like MJ.

>>28524022
>>28524040
>She thinks Flash is Peter due to the symbiote having interacted with Peter as a kid.
Boy is she in for a rude awakening.

>>28524114
Uh

No

>The wall in front of you crumbles as a figure flies through and into the center, collapsing. The Doktor hurries to the form which looks like some tacticool black version of your outfit before letting out a sigh of relief.
Thats Flash.

That last post is from Peter's POV.

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>>28524040
shit just got real

>>28524099
Congrats; you're where most of us where last week.

>>28524040
>We flying kick her ass before dropping a thermal on her
>"You really don't take rejection well do you?"

>>28524114
In between the first and second posts it switched from Venom back to Peter. I was confused too at first.

>>28524104
It's not like Gwen being Carnage doesn't have precedence.

But no, she's not the Maximum Carnage serial killer.

>>28524153
>>28524104
>>28524099
How many Carnages are we dealing with here?

Legacy character? Master and apprentice?

My knowledge of Marvel only goes so far

Alright. Gwen obviously took us hooking up with Felicia WAY too hard, and I regret that.

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I think you know what to do next week.

>>28524138
...Oh, I appear to have missed a line.

Lemme do over.

MARY JANE WATSON VS GWEN STACY
Gwen fights the Maximum Carnage killer, who is empowered by the Carnage symbiote.

Gwen wins.

Carnage is at deaths door.

The symbiote leaves its host, MJ, and latches onto Gwen.

Later, the good doctor finds MJ, who's nearly dead and suffering from symbiote withdrawl symptoms.

I fully expect Alice to go batshit crazy.

>>28524196
>everything ever is awful
Straight up Kubo there. I like it.

>>28524186
Me too, but still, saying Gwen being Carnage is our fault for that is like saying Reed Richards destroying Latveria is our fault because Sue wanted out. We played a role in this, but reacting with genocide is just fucking nuts.

>>28524196
Nah, MJ isn't the Maximum Carnage killer, she's Shriek at best.

>>28524186
We'll find a way to smooth things out when we get back. Hopefully

>>28524176
Carnage is almost always bonded to Cassidy in 616. It inherited Venom's desire to stay with one person and thinks Cassidy is the perfect nutjob for it. Carnage HAS occasionally possessed multiple people along with Cassidy, but has never (to my knowledge) abandoned him for good and gone on to a legacy character. I think, now that they're bonded that it would be difficult to do so.

>>28524220
Well, all things have a starting point. We may have initiated a chain of events that fucked everything up.

>>28524176
Symbiotes (those living suits like Flash has and Carnage is) are sluts. They jump from host to host.

Carnage starts as a cereal killer, but Venom gives "birth" to another symbiote which bonds to the killer and warps the symbiote into a crazed killer.

Since Carnage in our time is most likely just a regular old killer and is egging on Spider-Man I don't think it's Gwen since she could easily kill us.

I think something happened to cause her getting bound to this symbiote and it quite possibly has full control now.

>>28524241
Ultimate Carnage was Gwen Stacy, sort of.

We probably should have kept that in mind.

Guys. Shit makes sense

>Surveilence on Gwen was not to stop anyone from getting to her
>Surveilence on Gwen was to stop her from getting to anyone

>>28524229
It'd explain why our spider-sense goes off around her all the time. It's her fear aura.

>>28524241
Ultimate Carnage was Gwen Stacy the second time it appeared.

Shit. What if Cosgrove is using both types of Symbiotes? 616 AND ultimate?

>>28524258
Look.

Mate.

Gwen CANNOT be the Carnage Killer. Carnkill doesn't know who Spider Man is. Gwen knows who Spider Man is.

>>28524040
where did you get this pic, it looks like something tekuho would draw.

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So, do we try and beat her with friendship; or do we treat this like a godamn bossfight proper?

>>28524279
>Implying anyone of us knows what the fuck is going on in symbiote's mind

I might have erased the memories of Gwen Stacy, but I still can recall these I accessed already! The formula might be in one of them!

>>28524281
Google searching

>>28524258
Was there even a stalker, or was it Gwen using that as an attempt to get more attention from Peter?

Damn, i need to restrain myself from questioning absolutely everything that's happened with Gwen.

>>28524253
Most symbiotes want to jump from person to person, draining them, but Venom and its offspring are actually quite different from the norm. They want to permanently bond with someone. Venom winds up on so many people because he keeps getting rejected (explaining his possessive and obsessive behavior). Carnage found a perfect match in Cassidy, Toxin stayed with its partner until he died, as did the other symbiotes taken from Venom.

>>28524295
Look, what I'm trying to say here is that THIS CARNAGE is not THE CARNAGE SERIAL KILLER THAT IS STALKING US BACK IN OUR OWN TIME.

>>28524302
For what it's worth she looks and dresses like my twin sister.

Going to have a hard time sleeping with this hype. This is why I buy trades, not singles. Must. Have. More.

Thanks for running!

I think this story arc confirms hobgoblin status as "sideboss" threat level at best.

>>28524293
Oh we're waaaaaaaaay past the point of talk working.

>>28524293
see
>>28524195
ALL the fire

>>28524293
Boss fight while quipping at her.

I'm hoping we assume an almost "this is just a dream" perspective, only more "I can fix this when I go back in time"

There is, of course, the possibility that this Gwen Stacy is a clone, or has been bodyjacked by someone or something else. It's not entirely without precedent.

>>28524333
Well, first off we blame Oscorp for at least some of this shit.

Then we prevent Tony from going awry.

Meanwhile, we gotta bitchslap Reed into not being a nuclear douchebag.

>>28524333
>lashing out with hundreds of red needles
>"WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!"
>"This isn't even a quicktime event. Also I'm pretty sure there's a gas leak because this is a weird dream..."

>>28524338
She's been bodyjacked by Carnage.

>>28524338
Stay alive long enough to ask a few questions.

>>28524347
We don't know shit about what happened with Tony if anything.

This Carnage situation... with our two ringers out of the mix, we are outgunned in every feasible way right now. We are beyond fucked in the 1v1

Considering the state of her house... There's something left inside of her. Even if her father is dead. Even if she killed her father. We should take off our mask and remind her who she's fighting.

>>28524040
on the brightside, could we merge with agent venom?

Flash "I should have taken the shot, now my left lung is collapsed" Thompson

Still doesn't explain a few things.

Like who's actually cloning all the Spider Clones, and why?

Did anything happen to Tony Stark that made Hammer the next big thing?

Can we still get to a Doctor Doom (or for that matter Felicia) that's still sane and cooperative?

Oh well, waiting warmly.

>>28524293
Whatever's there isn't the Gwen we know, not anymore. Whoever this Gwen was, whoever she might have been, was twisted into something unrecognizable by the Carnage Symbiote.

NO

FUCKING

MERCY.

That being said, Peter's more than likely in way over his head on this one.

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>>28524384
God damn it, moot.

>>28524370
The Suit probably remembers us and wouldn't mind bonding with us. Agent Venom is the codename for Flash when he's wearing the symbiote.

>>28524362
Well we have one advantage.

Our winning personali-pffffhahahaha yeah we're fucked.

>>28524380
>Like who's actually cloning all the Spider Clones, and why?
Jackal because Gwen makes him do it because Carnage thirsts for Radioactive Spider-Blood

>Did anything happen to Tony Stark that made Hammer the next big thing?
Hammer was always second tier after Stark in regards to mechanical weaponry

>Can we still get to a Doctor Doom (or for that matter Felicia) that's still sane and cooperative?
If we can survive this encounter, we have, at the quickest, a week long trek across the wasteland.

>>28524384
Ah, the zombie principle.

>>28524397
We traveled into the future before we ever bonded with the suit. Besides that, no mention of a Spider Sense with Flash, and he referred to the lines he shot out as tendrils, not webbing.

Odds are, he's the first one the suit's ever bonded to.

>>28524040
Haha, that chapter title.
It's way too late for me to be singing that song out loud like a retard, dammit.

>>28524380
>Like who's actually cloning all the Spider Clones, and why?
Jackal, because Carnage. We know this already.

>Did anything happen to Tony Stark that made Hammer the next big thing?
The Avengers are dead. Or something. Maybe they're just being competitive, like Apple and Samsung or some shit.

>Can we still get to a Doctor Doom (or for that matter Felicia) that's still sane and cooperative?
Iunno.

>>28524404
>Hammer was always second tier after Stark in regards to mechanical weaponry

Cosgrove.

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>"G-Gwen... I... loooooove... y...."
>"R-really?"
>"PPPPPPPPPFFFFF PSYCHE! Enjoy those incendiaries I planted on you though."

>>28524380
>Like who's actually cloning all the Spider Clones, and why?
Jackal. Working for Gwen.
>Did anything happen to Tony Stark that made Hammer the next big thing?
We don't know. Stark Industries might have taken a dive at some point.
>Can we still get to a Doctor Doom (or for that matter Felicia) that's still sane and cooperative?
Yes? DOOM may not be the nicest guy, but he keeps his word. And he gave his word to have the cure for us when we got to the future. Now we just have to go get it.

>>28524418
We don't have any evidence to the contrary.

>>28524418
Didn't the symbiote taste our blood?

>>28524040
>Not day older than you saw her last with her hair messily styled, Gwen Stacy smirks before pointing at you.
This is the SINGLE most important part of our intel. This tells us that her transformation happens in our time very VERY soon.

>>28524445
The Carnage symbiote did. Because of our blood sample. Hence why it's eating Parker clones.

>>28524446
Maybe she de-aged?

Maybe Oscorp did something to her?

Maybe spider totem magic bullshit?

[ ]??? ???? ?? ???? ?????

CAN SOMEONE FIND OUT WHAT THIS MEANS?

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>>28524435
>Jackal. Working for Gwen.
Heh. Heheh. Hah.

The Jackal doesn't just clone Peter Parkers.

>>28524443
The suit CAN'T remember us, and WON'T because we haven't bonded with it yet. That's not to say we might not get a preview of what we can do with the symbiote during our foray into the future, but who knows, I guess.

Here's a thought: We bring down the fucking roof. We know this thing only comes out at night and drinks blood and we know mutants and aliens and magic are all things, so why not vampires?
At the very least this will knock her down to a more skilled version of us.

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>>28524463
OH FUCK

ITS NOT GWEN

ITS A CLONE

...

OH FUCK GWEN IS DEAD

OH FUCK FUCK FUCK WE'RE THE ONLY ONE WITH SPIDER POWERS THAT ISN'T A CLONE

>>28524463
Gwen is carnage.

Jackal works for carnage or else be ded.

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>>28524446
>>28524456
Or that guy who creates all those clones created a clone?

>>28524463
... hurm...
Well at the least we need to move or destroy our blood when we get back.

>>28524479
Or symboite.

Honestly. Get her to the sun, and beat the life out of her.

It matter not if she a clone or not, right now, we must end her.

>>28524479
And Jackal's her stalker?

>>28524479
Could be. In fact I'd believe it considering her apparent age. I don't think the symbiote can preserve its host like that. Plus, even if it could, the likelihood of the Carnage symbiote coming into being, her knowing about it, and feeding it Peter Parker's blood all shortly after we don't return from the future is bullshit.

This Gwen's probably a clone. Yep.

>>28524500
No

Jackal is working for CARNAGE

THE SYMBIOTE ITSELF

HE'S MAKING SPARE BODIES FOR IT

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>>28524500
It fits his profile.

>>28524514
I mean in the present timeline.

>>28524520
Yeah, it should've been obvious from the beginning...
now watch that be a red herring

>>28524253
>Cereal killer
You are the worst kind of person.

THE FALL OF PAST PETER

THAT THE LAST 5 PERCENT

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>>28524500
Still betting on Stormin' Norman.

>>28524542
Oh.

Yeah, probably.

>>28524514
The murders were the symbiote feeding and body hopping.

>Some science nerd
>Stalks her
>Huge interest in genetics
>Learns she harvests her own blood for whatever reason
>Jackal makes Gwen Clone
>"Finally my own clone, now I'll never be a virgin again!"
>Gwen gets out of control
>Kills MJ who volunteered for super soldier program because FINALLY ONE WITH SPIDER-MAN
>Gwen kills MJ because she senses Peter on her
>Symbiote bonds to Gwen
>The creator is now slave to the creation

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>>28524558
Uh oh.

>>28524542
Everything's a red herring. There aren't any normal herring! Cosgrove doesn't allow non-red herrings in his seas.

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>>28524558

>>28524583
Jackal is Aizen.

Not that it has been said it no longer exists.

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Relax guys, we know how to deal with vampires.

See you fools next week. Enjoy that turkey as that 5% looms over your heads.

>>28524613
Correction, SpOck knows how to deal with them. We, as in Peter, knows jack shit about dealing with Vampires.

>>28524558
Okay. So, Maximum Carnage basically translates as immortal Carnage. Scary.

>>28524613
Holy fucking what? What is this?

...

Hang on.

>Alice is probably MJ
>MJ is probably Carnage Killer
>And this probably the original Carnage before Mary Jane Watson vs Gwen Stacy.
>She's now a cyborg...but can't remember anything
>She 'conveniently' starts holding back whenever Carnage is nearby
>She was right here in New York
>Almost as if she was...
>...waiting for us
>Carnage is extremely loyal to Kassady, its original host
ALICE IS NOT AMNESIAC, SHE'S FAKING IT

SHE'S A SPAH

BRACE FOR BACKSTABS

>>28525876
Superior Spider-Man Annual #1. Asshole kidnapped and threatened to kill Aunt May, and your Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman decides to make an example of what happens when you fuck with his family.

(reverse image search, dude)

Good mor- holy fuck!?

>>28526227
I read it when it happened and I'm still going "holy fuck"

>>28526340
Peter has more than 2 problems when he gets home.

>>28526401
"Gwen? You wouldn't happen to be a... Psychopathic murderer, would you? I mean, I don't really think that you are, but I did just come from a future where you tried to kill me."

>>28524040
>At last, Peter, you’ve finally appeared- the key to giving me an invincible, immortal body is finally within my grasp
"Wait, immortal? I'm immortal? Man, nobody ever tells me ANYTHING."

Spock

>>28526716
Pretty sure it's because Carnage needs undamaged DNA from Peter to maintain itself. It's been going after clones, but since they're imperfect copies the DNA can't sustain it for very long. If it gets its claws in Peter, it's set for life.

>>28526875
Since it needs undamaged spider DNA, and Gwen has that, we can infer that it does not, in fact, have Gwen.

Clonegwen confirmed.

...Deadgwen confirmed.

>>28526997
>Deadgwen confirmed
If Gwen were dead the most likely suspect would be Carnage, wouldn't it? And then wouldn't it have acquired her DNA?

>>28527009
Willing to bet she offed herself to stop that from happening.

So, we are bitch slapping Gwen as soon as we go back to past right?

>>28527179
She took down us and Alice without hitting us and Venom is down right now too. Unless the Doktor and the velveteen rabbit have something pretty super up their sleeves, I think it's time to appeal to her humanity. Or run. Or both.

>>28527009
Carnage probably doesn't need Spider, it needs Parker.

>>28527230
So you claim Gwen did all these because she wanted Peter but couldn't have him? Sounds like something a woman would do.

>>28527272
Well, we did tell her we were dating someone else in a pretty insensitive way.

>>28527272
No...Parker DNA. The res suit is an Abomination, so it was man made. It is incomplete because part of it's sequence is based on our or our father's DNA probably. She doesn't need the Spider Blood, she just needs the Peter parts of the blood. Which sucks balls.

Well this was... I don't even.

Also it's clear that Gwen was reacting to the scent of realpeter rather than seeing her "father" like that, which she must have known about for some time, maybe even did.

That said, I'm not sure if she's a clone or not since clones don't get the originals memories and Gwen knows us. That's a bit shaky, but whatever. We need to end this quick no matter what.

>>28527746
Clones CAN have the original memories.Ben Reilly thought he was Peter Parker at first.

We can also pretty much be sure that 2035 Gwen isn't 2013 Carnage since the later didn't know who Spider-Man was. Peter Parker doesn't know what we know though.

>>28527848
If Gwen was Garnage 1, she wouldn't need to constantly call out Spider-Man since she has ready access to him. This at least Peter knows. And in regards to just wanting to off him publicly for he cameras; that type of showmanship is reserved for Hobgoblin.

Some things to remember (ooc) is that our Spider-Sense is flaring up like crazy, which means that the symbiote hasn't tasted true spider blood (unless Cosgrove's throwing us a bone).
Therefor it's safe to assume that this Gwen might not have spider-sense.

Also worth noting that if this Carnage is truly vampiric, which is quite possible, it will not be able to assist its host in daylight, it would also explain why she appears so young (unless clone). HOWEVER, Symbiotes can also mimic people and outfits. So perhaps this isn't Gwen after all, but some sort of mindfuck.

The best case scenario is that we have to solo a bloodthirsty ragemonster Gwen who doesn't have spider-sense, but instead most likely has at least 10 years of experience on us.

>>28528170

We have one thing she doesn't.

We are tenuously aware that we are magic.

That's worth it's weight in spiders right now by comic book and Spider-book logic.

>>28525965
Alice isn't having a good time right now, so I'm not sure that's the case.
Also she's mostly robot now, so the symbiote can't bind to her anyway.

>>28528196
We don't know any magic. Unless DOOM or Strange shows up in the nick of time via locating another mystic presence, it won't do shit for us.

>>28528268
It could be useful if we die. But... I'd rather avoid that.

Can objectives from past arcs be completed?

>>28528310
No, since they'd be undone anyway once we go back to the past.

Also way to go Flash, you lead her right here when you could have sniped her.
Sure she'd have come back, but still.

>>28528268
Something like that, just being aware he is a totem/magic has saved spidey's life a few times/done a power up asspull at a critical juncture.

Nothing about actually knowing magic.

>>28528170
We could sense Gwens intentions back in the past too; so the symbiote might not have that ability, but Gwen might.
Us having spider-sense means nothing right now.

>>28528170
Just wanted to point out, that it wouldn't matter either way. The reason the Symbiotes don't trigger Peter's spider sense is because Venom bonded to him.
However, Ben, a clone of Peter was able to sense Venom with his Spider Sense because the Symbiote never bonded with him.

Since we haven't had contact with the Symbiote yet, it hasn't placed those markers that makes our spider sense register it as "Us", so we can detect the Symbiotes.

>>28528508
>>28528543
The fact we have access to our most critical power is going to be super important. Hopefully Gwen doesn't have the sense (due to clone... which doesn't make sense why they wouldn't have it) or access to the symbiote due to it being dawn.
That said I would not be surprised to get in a brutal find and have Gwen pull a hidden knife or something.

Hey maybe blind Hawkeye will save everyone.
Or a DOOM battalion.
Or an army of Reeds Ultrons.
Or maybe we're just proper fucked,

Can we just fast forward a week already?

>>28528590
>due to clone... which doesn't make sense why they wouldn't have it
Two ideas: First, the clones are made out of degraded samples. The blood was stored for a long time and isn't in the best condition. Depending on if/how Gwen was cloned, this may not be applicable to her.

Second, it could be that while some of our power is related to us being bitten by a mutated spider that the connection to the Web of Fate is NOT one of the powers we received from Science, but is a power we received from the spider gods. Since the clones are not favored by the gods, they don't have the power. Gwen probably wouldn't have Spider-Sense in that case.

>>28528753
Well as soon as the fight starts we'll know just what she's packing. In any case we're going to need help since our sense is being an ass and immobilizing us.

I fully imagine her just walking up to us, the standard laying on of hands as we kneel, then Flash blasting her face off from his back.
This of course will only piss her off, but buy us some time.

>>28528753
I think it was estabnlished in 616 that the Spider Totem blessed Peter after he gained spider powers. He gained his powers through science, which it needed him to do for various reasons eventual showdown with Morlun, having an agent not directly created so that mystical foes can't trace him back to the totem by sympathetic links, etc, but once he had his powers, the totem decided to grant him some more, or at least a seal of approval and some totemic authority. So he's got all the authority of a totemic shaman of Spider, but his core powers are all mortal science.

>>28528868
Like a lot of the stuff in the books, it's open to interpretation. Peter Parker himself is a complete skeptic about the whole thing. He knows Magic and gods and stuff exist, but he's also confident that it's much more mundane than the magicians or gods make it out to be.

>>28528903
I still think he and Pym need to sit down and hammer out the rules by which magic functions scientifically.

>Amadeus Cho: "Wait, you can see magic now?
>Pym: "It's just energy. And energy follows rules. And that's Science."

>>28529034
Do we really want Pym to be the one to figure out magic and translate it in scientific terms? I mean if anybody can do it, it's him... But if there's anything worse than Ultron, it's an Ultron that understands the infinite depths of the mystic.

>>28529065
Ultron: Sorcerer Supreme?

Also if there's no Jan, there's no Ultron. Pym will just keep studying ants until he dies.

>>28529116
We'll totally push him to the whole giant man thing.

>>28525973
I can't help but feel that in a lot of instances, SpOck has a "natural" reaction to the situations he's put in.

>>28529118
Or get him hooked on Spiders.

But >>28529065 is right. We need to sit down with Doom and work on the Science of Magic.

>>28529324
And, if we can, try and get some hands on scavenged Stark or Ritchards tech. Upgrading out outfit with some high quality future engineering would be a good idea for when we go beast mode back in our own time to stop Carnage, Hobgoblin, Osborn, and quite possibly Gwen, The Avengers, and Thor/Hercules

>>28529479
>wasteland
>Finding working tech of that caliber laying around
You might as well be looking for Ezo weapons on trash mobs. That shit is rare as HELL now. DOOM however might have some goodies for us he's tinkered with off and on.

>>28529501
Too bad we don't know where Flash left Phil's Body. Or have the time to go looking for it.

>>28529580
He most likely has a lot of the same old tech Gen 1 Hobs did. Best we could do with that is create a potentially universe ending paradox with it.
After we deal with Carnage, we might have a little time to scavenge, but we had best do it on the way.
Also Flash is not going to be happy to learn we time shifted.

>>28529862
Hey, at the very least it'd give us a leg up on the Hobgoblin in our time, being able to study his gear and shit.

>>28529884
While it would be nice to take a sabbatical and do that, we need to get the hell out of here as soon as possible. Learn from DOOM and Flash what happened, and take corrective steps to rewrite history.

Also I had a vision of Spidey coming back with a jerry rigged powerpack similar to WC3's Goblin Tinkerer/ Lumberjack.

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>>28529501
We should have given Doom our father's hard drive. Let him spend 20 years decoding it, using its technology, improving on it. Then we pick up the finished improved versions and schematics for them and return to the past, giving ourselves and present-Doom a 20 year headstart on developing the technologies our father envisioned.

Also, I'm going to start dumping pics of some alternate Spider Man concepts from 'Project Rooftop'. Some of them might just have viable components we could incorporate into future Spider Costumes. Case in point, I really think this particular suit had a good idea. IF we can miniaturize the projection nozzles on the web spinners, we could finger-mount them. That would give us a lot of versatility in creating web constructs on the fly. Parachutes, nets, cuffs. And it would raise the web output so that covering a grenade or bomb would be a lot faster. Lose the scarf, but the helmet/mask system here looks good both as a protective measure for Peter's big brain, and as a housing for electronics. At the very least a bluetooth linked to a smartphone hidden in the helmet or on the belt.
>Siri, which what did that traffic report say about a giant lizard?

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>>28530023
I like the hood on this one, simply because it breaks up the humanoid outline. People are pattern-seeking creatures and we notice the outlines of other humans when they're camouflaged more easily than larger shapeless masses. That's the entire concept behind sniper Ghillie Suits.So maybe Peter could implement something similar, but more urban.

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>>28530057
Red and black is always a bold statement, but if we can incorporate gel-packs of the kinetic-dampening material we made, those lines can also be the delineation between gel cells. It's sleek, easily camoflaged, and appropriately intimidating. Might want to avoid red for a while after dealing with Carnage though.

>>28530095
We need to rock a white or yellow suit when we get back. A beacon of light for the future.