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>>28962362
So what would pic related be?

>>28962462
After a quick google search to find out who that is, he's probably be close to a regular wizard. Possibly an alchemist.

(Going to admit now that most of what I know about fantasy and tabletop rpg's is from tg itself. I've never actually played a real TTRPG.)

Nobody? Damn, I thought this was a good idea...

>>28962990
I think it's a GREAT IDEA.
Not even being sarcastic, this is funny can work.

>>28963120
Yeah, I figured it would be a nice lighthearted bit of fun. At least one person I've talked to on IRC has said they would totally play it if it were a thing.

I was really hoping /tg/ would do the /tg/ thing and sort of...run with it. I've seen you lot work with less.

Terrible to behold were the armies of the ramen lord. His thralls marked by acne and sleepless eyes shambled and milled to the demonic humming of cyclopean microwaves. Driving them forward were their eldritch tasksmasters the Marke Ti'ing whose cackling cries of "New flavour this month, new flavor this month" drove the degenerated masses ever forward in their frenzied advance.

i like this

>>28962462
>alton brown
That glorious motherfucker would be the saviour of this land.

>>28962462
He is obviously the setting's Elminster. Except,ya know... not a terrible character

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That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Sourdough" bullshit that's going on in the D&D system right now. Plain loaves deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine plain loaf in Glasgow for £1.60 (that's about $2.50) and have been eating it for almost 2 years now. I can even wrap solid slabs of square sausage with my plain loaf.

Scottish bakers spend hours working on a single loaf and knead it up to a million times to produce the toughest sandwich bread known to mankind.

loafs are thrice as filling as fancy sourdough slices and thrice as cheap for that matter too. Anything you can stuff in a sourdough, a loaf can hold better. I'm pretty sure a loaf could easily be bisected to satisfy the hunger of a dozen neckbeards with a simple series of vertical slashes.

Ever wonder why modern day hipsters never bothered conquering Glasgow? That's right, they were too weak to fight the drunken peasants and their chewy loafs of satisfaction. Even in World War II, German soldiers targeted the men with the loaves first because their burnt crusts were feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Plain Loaves are simply the best food that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the D&D system. Here is the stat block I propose for Loaves:

(One-Handed Exotic Food)

1d12 Health

19-20 x4 Crit

+2 to hitpoints and moral

Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Food - Doorstop)

2d10 Health

17-20 x4 Crit

+5 to hitpoints and moral

Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the deliciousness and satisfaction of loaves in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Loaves need to heal more hit points in D&D, see my new stat block.

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Dungeness and Dragonfruit?

>>28963733
I love you.

I've actually had that bread. Jesus christ it's like discworld dwarf bread.>>28963733

>>28963761
Thank you. It cried out to be done.

Anyway, I'd play the shit out of this as someone who used to be a chef. What player classes are you going for? Traditional?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade_de_cuisine

Anyway, dinner is intervening. Off to commit some crimes against salmon.

>>28963733
>Scottish Plain Bread

Fucking glorious. That shit toasted (in the grill since it's too big and manly for the toaster) with some cheddar, best breakfast on the planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LbWWx80ZPA

Summoners in da house.

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>>28964057
To be fair I don't know all that much about making a tabletop game or actual chef stuff.

I'd say the player classes are mostly just based on different styles of cooking; your high-class chefs who do all the fancy stuff are the wizards; barbecue bros would be more like sorcerors; and vegetarian dishes would be the druid-equivalent's specialty.

The young people enslaved by The Chains would be like cultists; given power beyond their control by the grease-demon.

Also, My dad gave me an idea. You know how restaurants are given a rating in stars? What if that was the number of leylines that crossed that location?

Chefs and wizards have one thing in common: hats. Pic related; the equivalent to the standard pointy wizard hat.

>>28964254
What would barbarians be? Beer brewers?

>>28964300
To keep it real? Yeah, probably. The combat class with draughts nigh-equivalent to potions such as an alchemist might make.

Fucking Cuisinart Edition

I roll a Rogue, then watch as some dick in a white coat jams muffins into locks and marches gingerbread men across pressure plates

I like it, but it's scraping close to the Manga toriko.

>>28964375
I've never heard of that, but it sounds neat. Just looked it up.

Captcha: Garland Nefusai

PC name confirmed.

For murder hobo type play the ingredient gathering angle (ala Toriko) is probably more interesting, although the restaurant/chain war could provide a good backdrop/campaign.

>>28964384
There are some differences, but I'll let you read to find them. In this the chefs are wonderful but there are people who do act kind of as the classes. I'm just saying that they are similar

>>28964300
>Barbarians should be diner style cook.
>Alchemists shold be distillers.
>Druids should be vegan/vegetarian cooks with herbs and herb brownie special abilities.
>Paladins should be critics.

>>28962362
The leylines of flavour should also include savoury.

>>28964416
>Paladins should be critics
>Paladins should be critics
>Paladins should be critics
>Paladins should be critics
>Paladins should be critics

Oh my god. You are the best.

>>28964432
>Detect zests
>Turn stomach
>Smite hunger

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The avatar of the god of fats

>>28962520
>After a quick google search to find out who that is
Oh this should be a good thread.

Home cooks would be sorcerers. No formal training,and pulling half of their recipes out of their ass.

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Honestly anon, I don't think DnD or a class based system would work. I think the best way to go about this would be to have each flavor type (sweet, salt, bitter, sour, umami, spicy) have its own separate schools, like talent trees in an MMO. The player can pick which schools they want to buy talents, passives, and abilities based on their play style. Different types of cuisines would be examples of builds or templates for players. Asian cuisines are very balanced, pastries are almost exclusively sweet, Central and South America cuisines make use of spicy and sour, etc.

Regardless of how you would build it, I would play it.

I would roll up an Alton Brown or one of pic related.

>Sauceror
awesome

>>28964699
I would play the fuck out of this system.

>>28964057
Maybe you could do something like rogue trader. All of the party members could fulfill different roles underneath the chef. You could have like sous be a class/archetype thats focused on buffs. Line could be a generalist. That sort of thing.

>>28964531
I'm sorry for not being american.

>>28964960
Sure, you can play Chef/Sous/Line. If you're a fucking rollplayer.

Also, I was sort of thinking this could be along the lines of that idea way back about pay phones being used to contact demons or something, and they were dwindling.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22571179/

Here it is.

>>28965041
>Not playing pastry chef

I bet you're a Pantry Chef faggot.

The rival temples of Ihop and Dennys are forever engaged in battle for the souls of breakfasters, promising eternal salivation to those who convert.

>>28965057
>>28965041

Now, now. We all know the Pasta chef is vastly more powerful than either.

>>28965072
Pasta Chefs ruin every campaign.

FUCKING SPAGHETTI CANNOT WIN EVERY ENCOUNTER

>>28965084
God I even get players who want to use it for what they deem 'Social Encounters.'

So what dice system would work best for this? I've always been partical to d10 WoD style.

>>28965124
I reckon a combination of d10 and d% ala Dark Heresy would work well.

> Sauceror

mfw no one has mentioned Kingdom of Loathing

http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Sauceror

>>28965153
Kingdom of Loathing is still around??

>>28965153
irc'ing with OP, he'd never heard of it

>>28964416
>paladin as critic

their churches are obviously newspapers who print their columns, but what's a good deity?

>>28965428
Well, when you think about it, Paladins judge people as sinful or not sinful.

Critics judge food as good to eat or not good to eat.

Critic-Paladins worship under the idea of flavour. To them flavour is not a tangible thing, instead an ideal; a zen state of food as it were. They worship the leylines.

Critic-Paladins have the neat side-effect of being flavour-leyline dowsing rods. They can feel it, like the faithful feel their god. They can taste the food in potentia, and they can tell someone that "Yes...this is a good place for a restaurant."

Every good Sauceror has a critic or two they keep close.

They literally worship the ground the restaurants are made on.

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this all sounds like
<this guy and the anger is flowing

>>28965593
Haven't watched the pokemon anime since like...hoenn. I know who that is but I don't know his character. Care to elaborate?

>>28965516
so reality is incredibly important for food quality, sounds like a great adventure; uncovering a conspiracy to keep orcish culture from spreading by a corrupt critic paladin that directs them to crappy land that makes it impossible to create good food.

>>28962362
So chains are the Zerg

>>28962462
The Arch-Sauceror?

>>28963733
>No pumpernickel
>No potato bread
Scrub

>>28965635
And we have us our first campaign idea.

I want to say that Palatics aren't the only ones who can sense the fleyvour, but that would devalue them and make your idea not as good.

I wouldn't say "orcish" culture, really. Probably just The Chains; a corrupt critic who serves The Chains would be awesome.

Remember, this is more of a modern setting. Think unknown armies (i think) rather than D&D.

Also, I keep forgetting to put my name on.

>>28965617
Hoenn was a good time to stop
He's was Brock's replacement and all he did was make food metaphors (not even puns) and be a huge fag.

>>28965715
I think it would be cool to have a SAN type system called The Weeds.

Theoretically the PCs would be people questing after the fleyvor, looking to make the best food possible. So, what if after being exposed to the bullshit food nightmares of the Chains and their ilk, they have to roll to avoid going farther and farther into "The Weeds" where they start to lose abilities, skills and go mad, becoming burnt out shells of their former cooking selves.

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Does that mean Iron chef is a prestige class for what ever the (monk/fighters) of this world would be?
Also are bards like those chefs who like cook the food in front of you and do crazy shit while cooking it?

>>28965715
I just grabbed a fantasy race that is regularly a minority of the more "commom" races, making the corrupt Palatic a racist prick, but if its modern then whatever works.

Also I wonder, how is the magic executed? Does making the food produce magic and the meal is just the after result? Is the magic of the culinary arts contained in the food and released as a spell or magic item? Does cooking simply allow the chef access to spells in a more traditional sense? This determines how magical the setting is and also how cautionary practicing culinary magic is

>>28965789
I dunno. Not a huge fan of SAN loss types of things. But if you wanna play it that way, I am NOT gonna stop you.

I would play this. I love playing characters who double as the party's chef.

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>>28965830
Yes.

>>28965864
The magic is not really the food itself; the magic is what helps to make the food. My original idea was literally simply that leylines = magic = better food. The better you are at tapping the leylines, the better your food becomes. The closer you are, the easier it is.

Like building a well. You don't build a well where there's no water; that's The Chains. You get a diviner to tell you where the water is - the Palatics - and you build your well there.

Imagine cooking in the harry potter universe. Little charms and spells and such to enhance the process. It's kind of like that; less experienced or perhaps more traditionalist chefs simly allow the fleyvor to flow through them and into their work, imbuing it and infusing it. More modern Saucerors would train and practice and learn to shape the fleyvor, to harness the sweet, the sour, the spicy, the savoury. A high level chef, an Arch-Sauceror even, might be able to use it to create dishes that aren't, technically speaking, possible.

Also, pic related would be one of these pioneers; always looking for ways to enhance his work, to go bigger and better and crazier.

If I were making this an actual game, there would be a chocolatier splatbook.

>>28965866
I don't think it should be as harsh as CoCesque san loss, more of a temporary problem that can be a great issue until it is dealt with.

>>28965980
awesome about that stuff. fighters and monks short order cooks people who can do a lot of food really quickly and still have it be of some quality

>>28966011
Absolutely; they train their bodies on they leylines to improve their speed. Often employed as caterers, as they can work on site and whip up a banquet in a day at high levels.

Gonna call it now that they can store fleyvor energy within themselves, like ki or chi or spirit energy in other games. Lets them work wherever, if only a limited amount and at less effectiveness.

>>28965980
>>28966095
So the abilities gained from cooking are unintentional?
>I have learned how to tap into the fleyvor and now my cuisine in an ethereal mix of my skill, the quality of the ingredients, and the leylines normally only found in my homeland. Also I can make fire with my mind now.

I guess I'm asking if encounters are purely food related or if there is more at stake.

Also are the leylines mobile and shifting. It would explain a restaurant going downhill when nothing within the restaurant has changed. Perhaps there is a way to keep them from moving, at some questionable cost.

>I heard that French place on Drecknor's Avenue has stayed good so long because they sacrifice virgin interns every year on Bastille Day.

>>28966095
they carry the power of the Allspice.
look it up its a real thing

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23183187/

Relevant.

>>28966260
You pose some good questions and ideas. Well, 1 of each really.

I'm pretty sure I was honestly suggesting a political/supernatural game where people play as cooks/chefs/wizards of sorts.

Maybe working long enough with the fleyvor could grant powers to the cook themself; a superhuman chopping speed, perhaps, or an almost oracular knack for keeping things from boiling over or burning or basically just staying one step ahead of a busy kitchen. It's like the skills you develop working in an environment, but magnified. Of course, working in a restaurant where several lines cross tends to develop these skills just a bit quicker...

The shifting leylines thing, though. That's neat. Whether or not there are ways to keep the leylines in place is up to whoever runs this shit. Personally, I'd say the Chains are the ones who would want stability. After all, while they can spring up seemingly overnight, it does take time for them to do their work.

Shifting leylines also explains why some branches just close down for no reason - The Chains hate fleyvor like vampires hate sunlight.


More ideas: Different people's foods could have different side effects. For instance, a well-situated brewery could make beer that sends people on vision quests. Maybe even grant the power to sense the fleyvor, albeit temporarily. Or maybe an energy drink company accidentally parked on a leyline and now their product is working too well - an insomnia epidemic.

Of course, it goes without saying that this is a somewhat secret side of things, right?

>>28966403
So instead of being overtly a part of this world, there is a secret society of chefs, critics, and evil corporations that vie for a place in the culinary underground? This setting will be sick.

I hope this thread is still alive when I get back from work.

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>>28966734
Yeah, pretty much.

Oh, and just so you guys know...

Pic related: Epic-Level Chocolatier.

>>28966734

I think this could actually slot into World of Darkness with very little effort.

>>28963508
Alton is a hack

>>28966911
He's the Bill Nye of food.

I would probably frame the Chains' magic less as anti-flavor and more as areas where the leylines have become stale and rotten. Only the laziest or most depraved of saucerors will tap into their flavor, corrupting them in the process.

This is how the evil Lord McDonald came to be. Using his dark saucory, he established the McDonald's Chain, building locations on all the world's stagnant leylines (except for those he assigned to his generals, the Burger King, Arby, and Wendy). His goal is to corrupt all the world's leylines and have absolute dominion over flavor

>>28967316
I think The Clown, The King, The Redhead, etc. shouldn't all be part of one, like, army, or whatever. They should be forever at war, a fragile balance of power between the giants, like shadowrun megacorps or whatever.

>>28966911
How so? He's educated, charming, and witty out the ass.

>>28966911

>Oh, people like a thing? Well, I hate it! That makes me better than those people!

Would, ah... would the currency of the world be meat and meatstacks, by any chance?

>>28969507
Nah, it's pretty much like regular Earth. Money's money.

So yeah, no "legal tenders" puns here.

>>28969820

Was going for a Kingdom of Loathing reference, actually. You were halfway there already- two of the five major classes are called Saucerors and Pastamancers, and their powers are based on sauces and noodles, respectively.

>>28969973
Oh.As mentioned before in the thread, never heard of KoL.

I just had an idea that The Chains are an organisation that are primarily motivated to dull the senses of the public. The more people it, the more addicted they get and the more mind-fucked they are.
The 'true restaurants' are responsible for re-awakening people. Bringing them back from their dependency on The Chains.

>>28970837
That's actually a pretty cool idea.

>>28970837
>for

It's a bit like Mage and the Technocracy. Actually, this setting could fit into Mage pretty well, too.

>>28962462
If you've ever played fall from heaven, he's Govannon, the hero for the Amurite nation.

If you haven't, Govannon's schtick is that he's an archmage that goes around handing out magical instruction like spare change. He teaches farmers to enchant their fields to grow bigger crops, urchins to transmute stones into bread, that sort of thing.

Kingdom of Loathing has Sauceror and Pastamancer if you need more ideas