Best time of the year is finally here!

>>28971452
It's that time again!

>>28971452
Reporting for duty, generalissimo!

>Report! We have a wounded!

Oh boy. Is it the man panicking?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRVVm6jRiR4&list=PL616C409141684A9E

You shake the man on the ground, his body shaking violently, his eyes fluttering behind his eyelids as though something in him simply "broke." Calling his name does nothing to fix him or bring him around.

You gain some semblance of your composure after a few moments of trying to help him, backing off of him. Noting here but trees and the gym in the distance, the Rocket Dorms some ways from here. You could possibly take him there, or you could wait for him to come to again.

You see no evidence of an actual psychic attack, or at least you feel nothing being directed against yourself. No, in your training you've learned to identify that kind of thing. It can be more subtle than this, or it could be more wild. There's no ruling that out.
This could be a psychic attack to silence him, he could even be dead now.
No Cerulean, you've got to think, you need to make a call.

>[] Take him to the Rocket dorms.
>[] Return to the Veridian gym.
>[] Leave him here and get help.
>[] Wait here for him to wake up.
>[] Spray him with water.
>[] (Other)

>>28971618
take his pulse. Check if he is alive.

After that, either take him to a hospital or to the rocket dorms. Probably the rocket dorms, as we don't know if we can trust the hospital, and there's nowhere safer than the rockets.

Gotta get into character as nosy-girl-embroiled-in-espionage

>>28971618
>>[X] Take him to the Rocket dorms.

>>28971618
[x] Get him to the closest one between Viridian Gym and the Rocket Dorms.

Actually, spraying him with water might be helpful this time.

>>28971618
Check his pulse. Make sure he isn't going into cardiac arrest, damnit.

Try spraying him with water first.

>>28971618
Take pulse make sure he lives, and carry him to the Rocket Dorms. If nothing else, Giovanni should know about this. We need to gather our team also.

For once 'spray him with water' actual sounds like it could help. I'd sooner believe this is like a neurological feedback loop from trying to access a damaged memory giving him a seizure. The spray could shock him out of it.

>>28971700
maybe a bit of a spray. If he has a pulse and we can't wake him.

after that, take him somewhere.

>>28971644
As much as I hate to admit it calling Sabrina might be a good idea in this situation since she could fix the problem faster than doctor could and no psychic would be stupid enough to mess with her.

>>28971618
Check his pulse, make sure he's still alive. Try to wake him up with a spray of water. Don't tell him what happened, say he tripped and knocked his head.

This guy still might be a lead, we just need a psychic, like Goldie.

Get him to the Rocket Dorms. Find a quiet and private room to put him, we don't want him to be able to tell he's in the Rocket Dorms nor do we want the other Rockets to accidentally barge in.

>>28971730
If that's the case, would you rather take him there unconscious?

>>28971713
Not necessarily Sabrina. Let's check if Goldie can't do something about this; he's supposedly become quite the prodigy in his psychic abilities in the 2 years we've been training.

Also, where are the Rocket Dorms located? In Viridian Quarter? We might want to take Chuck to the Viridian Gym and have him check in there while we go to pick up our team.

>>28971747
>>28971752
Psychics can teleport.

>>28971768
Yes, but do you want to wake him up andf take him there, or just take him there?

>>28971747
Yes, yes I would. I got mixed up, don't wake him up, just carry him.

After making sure his pulse is beating and steady, if he's unconscious but his heart beat is all out of whack it might be best to wake him up.

>>28971768
That's....unless Goldie can contact us from where he is right now and from this distance...

>>28971786
Are there any telephones around? Can we call the Rocket Dorms and ask for Goldie to come to the park?

>>28971786
Oh fuck. There are phones in the park, right? We may not even have to drag Chuck with us if we could call Goldie to come to where we are.

>>28971786
>>28971833
either call goldie for a teleport, or wake him up and take him to the dorm.

>>28971618
Are there any locations nearby that we know about that are secluded and quiet. Taking him back to the Rocket Dorms could jeopardize keeping this mission of ours off the books.

We can get Devon, Goldie, and Sanna there by dropping them a phone call.

>>28971786
>>28971851
Yeah, if we have phones available to us, we can totally avoid bringing Chuck to the dorms.

>>28971851
I suppose we should find some alternate place, but I can't think of anywhere we know of that doesn't have people/friends in it.

>>28971618

>Take him to the rocket dorms, if it wasn't a psychic attack it might have been a delayed trigger; we can get Grumpy or Alexis to help maybe to heal him?

So I'm taking it as:
>Take him to somewhere else and call the rocket dorms for the team.

>>28971889
It'd actually be faster to call the dorms through the phones and get Grumpy to get to us, since he can teleport and I'm sure that he's got even better at it compared to when we took the test 2 years ago.

Also, leave Alexis out. She's not a part of the mission.

>>28971916
Yeah, that sounds good. But where should we take him first? The Viridian Gym, I suppose? or the closest hospital, perhaps?

Let's check his pulse first. If he seems stable and not in immediate danger, we won't have to take him to the hospital.

>>28971916
yes. assemble team.

But we have nowhere to take him that doesn't have people.

>>28971941
What element was Virigian again?

>>28971966
Ground.

>>28971966
Ground/Poison/Normal. They train a wider variety.

>>28971941
Veridian Gym probably has people, we know the area so I'm hoping we can find somewhere quiet and out of the way to do our business.

>>28971975
wasn't that pewter?

>>28971986
Pewter is Rock. Totally different.

>>28971916
Just take him to Viridian Gym.
If any one asks play the dumb concerned ranger who saw this guy have a fit.

>>28971978
ah, I see.

I say take him to Rocket dorms, probably safer there, but Goldie can probably teleport us there much faster. Maybe get a doctor there to look at him. I assume we have excellent health care over at the Rocket Dorms

>>28972006
If it can be helped, we need to avoid showing off the fact that we're Rockets. Even if he doesn't recognize the dorms as belonging to the Rockets, if a Psychic is involved, they could easily look into his memories. And even if we wiped those memories, if Goldie is able to restore Chuck's memories, our enemy likely could as well.

Best be a professional about this.

>>28971452
>>28971452
Why did you delete the first thread?

>>28972006
No you bugger. We are supposed to stop people figuring out that we are rockets.

>>28972069
Forgot title subject.

>>28971958
Sweet shop, there has to be one

>>28972061
>>28972086
Oh, shit, I forgot that part.

Nevermind, I retract my vote to take him to the rocket dorms

>>28972061
That why I said Sabrina is a good idea she is after all the strongest psychic.

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>>28972088
Ah

>>28972101
Again, we gotta avoid involving people who are not a part of the mission. Gotta be a professional about this. We only resort to breaking the parameters of our mission when we are completely unable to follow them anymore.

>>28972130
Its satin actually.

>>28972101
That would require spilling details about this mission to someone we probably shouldn't give details about classified missions to.

We're supposed to keep this between us and the three other trainees we're bringing in.

Lilac was an exception as it was necessary to go to her, or some other Medium, to get information from the spirit, and she's very good at Mediuming.

>>28972168
>>28972143
Agreed guys, Retracting my vote for rocket dorms too

>>28972143
We're going to have to talk her about the fact that our suspect is a psychic.

>>28972185
No we don't.
we have a psychic and two dark types on our team we can handle this.

>>28972185
Why are we going to have to tell her that? We don't have to tell her anything about it. We're a Rocket, we're not part of her Gym.

We tell Giovanni, and if he thinks that it's important information for her to know then he'll let her know, but we don't go around blabbing.

You kneel down and grab the man by his wrist, biting off your glove, your teeth piercing through and running through your fur.
You apply your fingers to his wrist and feel something.

Good, he's alive.

You take a step back and adjust your palm, taking aim at him, your palm's barrel extending out an inch. A little water should wake him up.

Wait a sec. No. He needs to stay like this, it's better like this. You retract the barrel.

Mission retirement is that this stays off the books and under the radar. You can move him like this without his knowledge. Boss would be proud of you for thinking so far ahead.
Around here, this is the path from veridian to the rocket dorms. The trees have been left a bit thick to conceal the place. Easier to keep the esteemed rockets unmolested by public eye after all.

There should be a park near here with a more public phone, it'll cost some change but..

You look around, taking stock of your surroundings, ears flicking to listen into the more subtle nuances of the area.
All clear, Crystal clear.
You hoist the man's body atop you, wrinkling your nose at the disturbing smell of alcohol left on his clothes. What a slob...

_____________________________________

>>28972185
We can ask Kitty or the boss about stuff like that.

Our enemy is a psychic. So we either work under the assumption that it's a psychic who chose not to train at Sabrina's gym....or that Sabrina is doing the same thing as Giovanni and renting out the services of her own rangers.

In either case, we try to find other options first. Gotta be intelligent about these kinds of things.

>>28972213
One dark type, we only have dark type moves.

>>28972254
Yeah, but we basically have close to the same advantages, in terms of combat. Just say that we're a "counts as".

>>28972254
Close enough.

>>28972280
I doubt we have as much resistance to psychic attacks as an actual Dark type, though we can still murder them pretty well.

>>28972242
>>28972226
May I point out that this psychic committed murder. That is a pretty good reason by itself.

>>28972233
covert ops are haard
This better be because of a pokeymon, and not just some criminals. Cerulean'd be miffed if it were the second, I wager.

>>28972294
We've got some resistance. You do understand how Dark types resist Psychic types, right?

>>28972307
That is not a good reason to break cover.

>>28972332
I agree with you but we arent actually a dark type. We just have the moves.

>>28972332
We have NO RESISTANCE only moves they can't predict.

>>28972359
I mean to say we wont have the full benefits.

>>28972372
Do you know how Dark types resist Psychic moves?

>>28972372
Still no reason to get Sabrina involved. We have our own psychics.

>>28972388
We aren't dark type we have dark type moves

>>28972402
Did you mean to quote someone else?

>>28972414
No I was assuming you were arguing on the pro Sabrina side. I apologize if that was not the case.

>>28972388
We aren't a Dark type. We're Water/Ice, not Dark. We just have Dark moves available to us.

>>28972307
People die all the time, we're on a mission to investigate this and were giving orders to keep this quiet and not spread knowledge of it outside of our team.

So we don't go and blab about it to Sabrina, at least not at this juncture. If Goldie can't get any leads from him and he thinks Sabrina could then we can consider going to her.

>>28972388
Are you really this stupid? Dark type moves ignore a psychic's defenses but give us no defense to psychic moves.

>>28972445
Oh, no, I'm not that guy.

So you were totally right. If it doesn't turn out he wasn't.

You hide his body in a nearby bush, hop over a park bench, and get a few weird looks from some of the more "normal" passerbys.
Whatever. Mission time.
You tap out the number of the rocket dorms with a claw, scuffing up the shiny keys.
It rings a few times before the operator picks up.
"Hello, who is this?" The operator's voice is direct, and discreet. She doesn't say who you've dialed, that's how you know.
You leer down some of the civilians that are lingering too close for your comfort and they rightly back away as you whisper into the phone,"Trainee Cerulean of Cerulean."
"Yes, who shall I direct you to?" Her tone lightens noticeably, knowing who she's speaking to.
"Pass on a message please. Goldenrod of Saffron, Sanna of Celadon, and Devon of Cinnabar. They need to meet me in Forest Park. Civilian clothes."
There's a pause,"Will do. Can I ask what's this about?"
"That's classified."
"Understood."

You hang up the phone, and give the pedestrians another round of leer as you walk away, doubling around when their eyes leave you before you get around to Chuck again. He's still there, safe and sound.

Some time passes and you hear a familiar presence passing through your mind.
(Cerulean?)
"Right here," you think back, imagining the path you took.

Your team comes through the bushes. Goldenrod's face is shaved, and he has a band over his head to cover his star. Aside from the blonde fuzz on his face, he's passable as a human.
Sanna comes through with a rather baggy hoody, her green hands tucked into her pockets and hood pulled up over her odd hair, only her red eyes piercing the veil. She's almost passable too.

Devon though? He's nowhere to be seen.

"Where's Devon?" The first thing on your mind, you need all of them here. You need them all for this.

>>28972483
>We aren't a Dark type. We're Water/Ice, not Dark. We just have Dark moves available to us.
Again I have to ask you if you actually understand how Dark types resist Psychic moves? Explain your understanding of how this works.

>>28972485
Man arguments on /tg/ get confusing.

>>28972512
Huh, well dark type is evil type so I guess dark types resit simply because they are sick sons of bitches who'd eat babies with a side of roasted vegetables

>>28972512
It doesn't matter how Dark types resist Psychic moves. We aren't a Dark type no matter how you slice it. It's irrelevant to our situation.

>>28972488
Do we know Goldie evolved? I thought he was covering that up.

>>28972488
I swear if Devon rolls up on a Ghostrider bike I will be SO pissed.

>>28972512
By being "Evil" types.
There is a big difference between having the moves and having the type.

>>28972543
And we are able to mimic that. Not to the same extent as natural Dark types, but enough to disrupt mental attacks.

Dark types only resist mental attacks (and disrupt them before they make it).

>>28972560
Yes, we know he evolved. No, he never tried to cover it up.

>>28972488
Goddamnit, here we go.

Devon being a loose cop who doesn't play by the rules

>>28972488
Hey Prof, can you put a rest to this Evil typing argument?

>>28972573
I mean after we got mindwiped he had a shave. I assumed he was covering up the evolution on top of the whole gym stuff.

>>28972488
Devon, if you screw this up I swear...

>>28972488
He's either having trouble looking civilian, or he's snuck up on Ceru. Neither are really very good.

>>28972573
Not attacks, defenses. We're still are still weak to mental attacks.

>>28972607
Why would he cover up the evolution?

And he was just embarrassed of his mustache, I believe. It was why he tried to hide it away from us when we met him at Saffron Gym. If he wanted to hide the fact that he evolved, he would have covered up his forehead too.

>>28972607
He didn't cover the star. He just shaved the mustache. He's embarrassed by early facial hair

Evil moves give you the ability to take espers by surprise.
They don't give you full immunity.

Devon, for instance, is completely incompatible with any esper affiliation. Goldenrod can't even teleport him without receiving the mindfuck backlash. I almost wish you guys had evil typing so I could give really fucked up narrative.

You'd find that it's a wonder Devon is even as amicable as he is.

>>28972488
Sniff the air around us, we should be pretty familiar with his scent.

>>28972639
But he did:

>Goldenrod's face is shaved, and he has a band over his head to cover his star

>>28972638
>>28972639
Man if I had a mustache at thirteen I would have thought it was pretty sweet.

>>28972654
I'm sure your gore boner needs scratching Professor. Don't worry, we'll get there eventually.

>>28972654
>I almost wish you guys had evil typing so I could give really fucked up narrative.

Please, don't temp me, Doc. Narratives that reflect different psychological states (or just insanity) are too fun.

>>28972658
I think Prof is still writing out the next post, since he didn't give us any greentext options.

>>28972661
For now. Because he was told to come in civilian clothes. Which is why he's hiding it now.

>>28972676
Me too, man. Me too.

>>28972661
No shit Sherlock, we told him to come out in civvie clothes so he's covering up the most noticeable marker of not being a civilian. Kids wandering around with stars on their forehead tend to garner attention.

He doesn't hide it during Rocket Training or anything like that.

>>28972661
You mean right now? Yeah. he's trying to look human.

...did you not catch that?

>>28972654
So I take it Devon and Goldie aren't BFFs?

>>28972654
hahaha Devon had to take the bus like a common person.

>>28972698
He didn't even hide it back then when he came with us back to the hospital.

>>28972706
Considering Goldie's Timid personality, I'd say not.

>>28972654
You can still do that when we use feint attack. Since that is supposed to run on pure killer instinct, right?

I want to hear your fucked up narrative

>>28972661
I really hope his head band has a star on it.

>>28972654
But is there a way to be nice Evil? I'm thinking either Lovecraft level of otherworldness is enough to repel Psychic without actually being mean or deliberately malicious.

Ceru's method seems to work too: just have being nice be instinctual, rather than conscious.

>>28972654
>>28972708
AHAHAHA. Gawd. And all by himself.

>>28972679
I mean crap like:

Goldenrod approaches you, looking a little smugger than usual. His shit-eating grin makes you recollect the dream you had last night of tearing his throat out. His eyes meet yours, an obvious challenge that makes you straighten your back a little more and bare your teeth in your own kind of smirk.
"H-hey Devon." Your dominance makes the chump come out of him to your satisfaction.
"Sup shitface. You goin' to kiss Ceru's ass again?"
He doesn't reply to you, instead withdrawing further and walking away with his tail inbetween his legs. He'll try to kill you in your sleep later. You'll need to be on your guard.

>>28972736
Ceru isn't a natural Evil type, so she has to segue into it when she uses her Evil moves.

Devon, however, constantly has to live with that mentality.

>>28972723
It hides killing intent.

Sanna is quiet, looking to Goldenrod whom averts his gaze from yours as he answers," Couldn't port him. I don't even like being near that freak, let alone touching him."
You feel your lip curl up at the thought of this, something you don't quite like," Goldenrod, we need him here."
He frowns further, as Sanna looks away herself, checking the area.
"I can't do it Ceru, dealing with that is beyond my ability."

You let go of the emotions welling up within you. Clear like water. Flow, just flow.
"Did they tell you what's going on?"
Goldenrod looks at the man unconscious by your side,"Well, Giovanni didn't mention this. Covert op though. Civ clothes, something about an error and chasing ghosts. Not really chasing ghosts, is it?"
You wear a tired smile from the events of last night, you can feel the bags under your eyes.
"Yeah, something like that." You mess up the unconscious Chuck's hair a little bit. "He knows something about it. But his story is weird. When I asked him about it, he didn't remember something. He got like this after."

Goldenrod takes a knee and touches the man, wincing a little bit.
"Woah."
"What?"

Goldenrod frowns in concentration for a few moments before answering," His mind has more holes than swiss cheese."

>[] Do something about it.
>[] He's no good then, is he?
>[] I kind of thought so.
>[] (Other)

>>28972755
Shit, Devon.

Stop looking at Goldie's ass. That's Cerulean's.

>>28972755
...huh.
You know, I understand Devon a little better now. It's really not his fault he's an enormous asshole.

>>28972789
Ask Goldie if he can do something about it. Would he be able to patch up Chuck's brain?

>>28972789
>[X] "Do something about it."

>>28972789
see if he can do something about it

>>28972789
"I was sadly afraid of that...can you do anything?"

>>28972789
>>[] Do something about it.

>>28972789
Is there some way we can fix this?

>>28972762
I thought it was pure instinct, in that it has absolutely no real coherence or forethought.

Like, there's no premeditation at all. No planning, just acting. There's no mind to read because you're just acting moment to moment.

>>28972789
>>[] Do something about it.

>>28972789
>[] He's no good then, is he?
If so then
>[] Do something about it.

>>28972789
[x]come on, fix it. Or something.

>>28972789
It's more important to know WHAT happened to him rather than whether he can be helped right now. Waking him up might be a bad idea, hmm.

Can we take him to a not-rocket gym, "since we found him nearby", or is all of this going to be done in the park?

>>28972851
That's the same thing, isn't it?

>>28972851
They can still mindrape us.

>>28972881
Not when feint attack is active, unless I am misunderstanding something.

>>28972789
"I expected something like that.

There anything you can do about it? Can you recover some of what was lost? If it'll take a while let me know, we can hold off on poking through his brain and get to a more discreet location once Devon gets here.

Would it help if I gave you the details of what happened so you can fill in the blanks?

Can you tell anything about whatever who did this?"

>>28972905
We aren't a Dark type, we don't have their resistance to Psychic stuff, Psychics just can't predict our Dark attacks making them extra effective.

>>28972755
Goldenrod approaches you, looking a little smugger than usual. His shit-eating grin makes you recollect the dream you had last night of tearing his throat out. His eyes meet yours, an obvious challenge, and his look fades. You straighten your back a little more and bare your teeth in your own kind of smirk. He trembles.
"H-hey Devon." Your dominance makes the chump come out of him to your satisfaction.
"Sup shitface. You goin' to kiss Ceru's ass again?"
He doesn't reply to you, instead withdrawing further and walking away with his tail in between his legs like a coward. An obvious deception, that lying esper shitstain wants a piece of you. You'll need to keep an eye on him or else he'll stab you in the back.


Fixed that up a bit.

Seeing through evil eyes would require you to constantly undermine the way your eyes perceive the world.

>>28972939
I dunno, I feel like it'd be like trying to poke holes in a sheet of paper.

And feint attack basically just hides the paper from them. They can't see it to interact with it.

>>28972905
>>28972959
It's attacking without thinking of the attack, our mind is still rapeable however.

>>28972954
Comon, stop teasing!

>>28972954
Hey Prof, mind re-explaining how Evil types work again? And how pseudo-Evil types compare to them? Because if you don't do it now, these guys are just gonna keep on talking about it....

>>28972995
He already did like 3 times man. They're not listening.

Real evil types are always immune to all Esper abilities (except throw rock, for obvious reasons)

Rangers with evil moves can really hurt Espers, but aren't immune to their attacks permanently (like mind reading.)

It's simple.

>>28972954
Isn't that a big problem for Bruise then? He'll always seem unrealiable and untrustworthy to Kitty.

How the hell do Evil types form stable relationships? Well, I suppose if you still care about people even though you think they're all assholes...

>>28972654
>>28972995
He already did.

>>28973044
Kitty isn't evil. She's normal type.

>>28973044
You hate them less than everyone else.
You're also implying something that may not even happen.

>>28973044
Kitty isn't an Evil type. Persian is a Normal type Pokemon, she just also knows some Steel and Dark type moves.

>>28973044
She aint evil either. She does the same thing we do.

>>28973044
Kitty isn't actually an Evil type. She just leveled the shit out of the Evil moves she can learn.

And Persian is just a dickass Normal type that that scratches things reflexively.

>>28972654
>>28973039
This is what Prof is saying.

But these guys are still arguing about whether or not pseudo types like Kitty and Ceru have any defense against psychic moves.

>>28973064
We can always dream, Prof. We're Rockets, after all. Always reaching towards the stars.

>>28973084
Their moves make it so they can attack them.
But otherwise? No. Sabrina read our mind like a rotten egg.

>>28972789
Does our education include type-theory? Are the interactions of the more esoteric types like psychic, dark, fairy, dragon, etc, even common knowledge to Pokescience?

I just realized what the best implant ever -the only one I still kinda want- would be.

Smeargle's brain bits that let it copy moves.

>>28973124
it probably makes you autistic or something.

>>28973107
The problem is that Cerulean has to 'engage' her Evil side while natural Evil types like Devon are 'always on'. So, the question is; once that Evil side has been engaged, do they have the same defenses?

>>28973139
Remoraid brainbits didn't turn us into Bullseye from Daredevil.

>>28973124
>yfw thats probably what Giovani has
That or something that would make him more like fafnir

>>28973124
You mean access to the move sketch?

>>28973143
No they don't because we're not a sick fuck

>>28973143
...yes
That's what I said. We are temporarily immune to mind reading and such.

And I highly doubt we can 'leave it on' before you say that. It'd probably cause severe damage to our psyche if we tried.

>>28973183
Look. I'm not even arguing against you. I'm just making the two points in this argument clear. There are people who hold your position.

>>28973179
And there are people who hold this one.

It would be nice if Prof could clarify which one is true.

My mistake with Kitty's type then

>>28973064
What's important is that it might come up within the story, not really whether it'll actually happen.

>>28973183
It only hides intent to kill nothing else.

>>28973219
He already did. Dark moves make us immune to mind reading. We've seen that happen.

>>28973173
Smeargle + Dito implants.
You scared yet?

>>28973255
Basically a bargain bin Mew.

>>28973271
It has the advantage of being more available at least.

>>28973251
You're missing the point. Look at all this. Why are people still arguing?

It's because Prof hasn't been clear about it, fuck. So we have to get him to put an end to this so that these guys can stop circling around each other.

>>28973255
What do you need the Ditto for?

>>28973251
IT HIDES KILLING INTENT NOT THE FUCKING MIND!

>>28973313
if u r a dark type they cant read ur mind or they will die

>>28973303
...and it feels like I'm talking to a wall.

>>28973313
Yeah, making it so they can't sense us coming by reading our mind about our next attack.

>>28973251
Yes, evil moves give temporary immunity to Esper attacks.
Though Espers will always have an easier time reacting to a ranger that needs to cancel out of "Evil mode" for their own sanity.

Kitty's basically been put through bizarre and hellish training to make her a pseudo evil-type. Her brain is fucked up.

>>28973313
It makes the mind blank, though if they're perceptive, they'll still be able to perform a physical counter or generate a barrier.

>>28973346
>...and it feels like I'm talking to a wall.
You know, anon. You're a jerk. Someone is trying to make peace and you act like a fucking.

>>28973313
Yeah, but it removes all other thinking. It's like mind blank makes you immune to mind effecting spells in D&D.

It takes away all thoughts except how to remove whatever is threatening you. There's no mind left to fuck.

At least, that's how I see it. Still waiting for the official word on this.

>>28973313
Smeargle lets him learn any move and Dito lets him use them to their full extent.
I imagine it would be a lot like fighting Alex Mercer.
You try to hit him and he turns his arms into a Sheldar shield, then grows some Blastoise cannons to retaliate.

>>28973363
>>28973370
There. Hope you're happy now. Fuck.

>>28973363
Prof, can you be clearer?

>Though Espers will always have an easier time reacting to a ranger that needs to cancel out of "Evil mode" for their own sanity.

Is this referring to Cerulean? So are you saying that, when she goes into "Evil mode" she has the same advantages?

>>28973381
Dude
DUDE
That would be so fucking awesome.

>>28973381
Smeargle can learn transform so no need for Ditto.

>>28973386
Fuck you, anon. Fucking hell. That was the position I held. My god. Why are you acting like such a cunt?

>>28973388
that is what he said right before that line

>>28973388

How about: Evil type rangers are ALWAYS in "Evil Mode" with abandon for their sanity.
So yes, I'm referring to Cerulean, and she has similar advantages, though she'll be vulnerable right after the attack.

Can I write the next part yet?

>>28973363
Neat

Is it possible to get stuck in evil mode? Like, not able to cancel it out?

>>28973449
yes please write the next part

>>28973449
Yes, please.

>>28973449

Please do. I had hopes you'd be writing the next part while ocasionally peeking in the thread, but it seems I was wrong.

>>28973450
Sure, it's a thing now. Sanity rolls to exit evil mode when used in succession.

Do you kill everything, or don't you?
Bliger's advanced forms are very "feline" in the approach of murder.

>>28973449
That's the clearest answer you could give, Prof, so thanks for finally giving it.

>>28973410
Shit. Well it depends on if you can transform without being a ditto in this universe.
He would have still needed to have seen a ditto at some point so he might as well go all in.

>>28973449
no i want you to stop writing the post and instead create a detailed guide about how each type affects each other type and the extent of the advantage/disadvantage

>>28973490
Don't even joke about that man.

>>28973412
Yes, but I was just asking him to state things plainly instead of trying to describe things again.
>>28973449
Like here. If this was the answer he had given in the beginning, people still wouldn't have been arguing up to this point.

>>28973477
I like it.

Always a pleasure to read some good old fashioned emotional trauma.

>>28973410
>Smeargle can learn transform
Really? Show me where it says that.

And even so, Ditto has Imposter as it's Hidden Ability, so Transform takes priority pretty fast.

>>28973477
I actually sort of want to see this happen now.

Really not regretting taking Bliger.

>>28973535
bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sketch_(move)
Here

>>28973542
>Really not regretting taking Bliger.
Er, what? That's part of crytten's evolutionary steps.

>>28973477
>Sanity rolls to exit evil mode when used in succession.
That's a massive bullshit nerf for no reason other than "mitebcool".

I'd be less bothered by it if this quest hadn't been presented as DEADLY DEADLY DON'T FUCK UP.

>>28973551
>Sketch cannot be used to copy Selfdestruct, Explosion, Struggle, Transform, or Metronome. If used by a transformed Pokémon, Sketch will fail.

I thought so.

>>28973477
>>28973588
Mm.

The problem is, do Evil types like Devon have to constantly roll for sanity checks as well? Because if not, I don't see why we'd have to roll either.

>>28973608
Read the whole thing before being smug. It works now.

>>28973608
Actually it can now be used to copy any move but Chatter.

>>28973477
I thought dark moves were just instinct?
...why would we go insane from instinct?

That's silly Professor. You're silly.

>>28973588
I kinda like it.

Adds a reasonable drawback in exchange for what is essentially immunity to espers. Do you risk going loopy, or do you leave yourself vulnerable?

"I kind of expected that," You frown, though don't really put much more of yourself out there.
"Anything you can do about it? I know a few things that he should know."

Goldenrod removes his hand from the man, and peers at you warily,"Ah, Ceru how.. Ah, nevermind, I'll find out later. It'll take some time to fix him." Goldenrod's eyes shift around the area, obviously perturbed by how open it is.

"Yeah, take him to the Rocket dorms. After we find out what we need, you can teleport him out."
You think for a moment, a finger to your mouth as your eyes drift to Sanna, feeling guilty about the prior day.
"You take him and start on that. We'll wait here for Devon. Better than him showing up with no one here."

Goldenrod kind of smiles at that, or does he smile at you?
"Better than him taking his frustration out on civilians." His face goes flat as he kind of spaces out," Better than having to deal with that monster."
He touches Chuck's hand,"See you back at base." And the two of them vanish.

It's just you and sanna now in Green Park awaiting Devon.

So, how did you intend to grovel?

>[] Don't bring it up now, it's mission time.
>[] "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry! It smelled really good!"
>[] "Sanna, sorry about yesterday. My nose is sensitive."
>[] (Other)

>>28973477
...please don't

>>28973632
Think of it this way:
Do Russians have to roll endurance checks for cold? No, but Spanish people would.

>>28973682
>"Sanna, sorry about yesterday. My nose is sensitive."

Mixed with
>"I'm sorry, I'm so sorry! It really did smell good!"

>>28973667
I guess it means that we would just lose access to higher thought functions until forcibly snapped out of it. Operate entirely on instinct and remove all threats in a brutal and efficient manner.

>>28973682
>[] "Sanna, sorry about yesterday. My nose is sensitive."

>>28973682
>>[] "Sanna, sorry about yesterday. My nose is sensitive, and the smell was too strong for me, even if it was nice."

>>28973682
[X] "Sanna, sorry about yesterday. My nose is sensitive."

>>28973687
>>28973477
Maybe prof should add a wake up check to Rest to see if we get stuck in sleepy lazyass mode.

After all, we're not actually an esper and Rest is an esper move.

>>28973682
>adorable nervous fidgeting
>I'm sorry Sanna, it did smell really good, but my nose is sensitive and it was way more concentrated in your room than I could deal with...

>>28973723
Part of why Rest requires out of combat.

>>28973682
>[]Sanna sorry about yesterday. My nose is really sensitive.
I just couldn't help it.

>>28973687
The problem, though, is on whether or not the need for rolling it would go away.

And if we can build up a tolerance to it, why would he think that wouldn't be the first thing we'd try to do? It would just end up wasting time and being superfluous.

If we can't build up a tolerance to it, then that's even a worse problem.

>>28973734
Seconding

>>28973723
I imagine that's actually a thing, and the reason we can't just take a catnap in the middle of combat.

>>28973717
I like this

>>28973682
>>[] "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry! It smelled really good!"

>>28973477
There needs to be an incentive to balance that then, like acting out of turn. Seems more like something for Quick Attack though.

How about "feral mode" rather than evil? You allow the pokemon instincts to take over, giving innate bonuses to moves that the particular pokemon specializes at. Losing san rolls makes you act more like that pokemon.

>>28973682
>[] "Sanna, sorry about yesterday. My nose is sensitive."
mention that it smelled really good from the door, and that we can judge for her if it's from outside her room.

>>28973759
I don't think it even matters if we're a natural psychic? Could Brian feasibly Rest in the middle of a fight? I'd think not, since he'd get beaten up while doing it.

>>28973749
Well we will have to see wont we?
It cant be that high of a check since we used it to hug someone once. It probably lowers as we level up our dark moves.

>>28973788
The problem is not in using Evil moves, but in using Evil moves in quick succession.

>>28973682
Give a few sniffs, see if Sanna smells nice today.

"Sanna, I wanted to apologize for yesterday.

I have a very sensitive nose, I went to visit you because I smelled something really nice when I went in the dorms.

But inside your room with the broken bottles of perfume there was too much. It was like the difference between a nice song and a dozen people singing right in your ears.

I'm sorry."

If the apology is accepted we can give her a hug and tell her she smells nice.

>>28973735
Well fuck. With this turn of events, I'm going to lobby the fuck out of Ice/Water moves only. No more anything else ever.

If all moves that don't match our type not only don't get stab, but also incur bullshit penalties, we shouldn't be using them at all.

Better to take our moves that don't incur bullshit and pump them up until weakness no longer matters.

I don't even want to see what we might have to roll for on other attacks. Bullet Seed requiring rolls to resist the seeds trying to overtake your biology? Psybeam requiring rolls to prevent backlash?

Nah. Screw that.

>>28973477

I honestly like this idea. It would give us something to consider before spamming Evil attacks or abusing their power.

>>28973749
He implied that the training involved in building up resistance to it can really fuck a person up.

I'm interested in seeing how it goes. The more trauma, the better.

>>28973822
Kitty, right? Yeah, Goldie was a bit scared of her too.

>>28973775
>feral mode
I actually really like that.
>>28973801
>using Evil moves in quick succession.
Yeah, that's a thing that I think they didn't read.

>>28973834
Goldie doesn't even like being around Kitty all that much.

>>28973820
They already drain stamina and make it damn near impossible to engage without going for the kill.

And you want to add on more penalties?

>>28973822
GRIM REMINDERS

>>28973477
Yeesh, Prof. After resolving one argument, you go ahead and inadvertently start another. You just can't catch a break, huh.

>>28973820
but we put points into them specifically because they let us work on fair ground with psychics. They're hardly powerless just because we can get around their mindreading.

I don't like the new penalty. Feels too Shadowrunny

>>28973877
Shut up you fool! The Prof. loves Shadowrun.

>>28973682
"Um, this mission is what I meant to tell you about yesterday."
"And... it really did smell good, but being in the same room you were making it was too much for my nose."

>>28973902
That's fine. But this isn't Shadowrun. And he should know that.

Same reason I don't like the sanity shit for poke implants.

...beyond like, 6-10 implants that is.

>>28973908
something like this.

>>28973863
>>28973854
Hm.....yeah, unless you're thinking of basically making Evil moves as strong as that instant freeze move thing but at a cheaper cost, I don't think you need to add another penalty.

>>28973919
This setting is just as Shadowrun as Shadowrun is.
We are doing a corporate espionage mission for god sake.

>>28973854
YESSS, BARIOTH MODE IS A GO.

Also, that sounds terrible for anyone taking gyarados. You'd need to roll for san every couple of hours or something.

I just realized how funny it would be to take san loss for metapod or kakuna.
>"Ceru? Ceru, are you ok?"
>"Shut up guys, I'm trying to turn into a butterfly. I just need to stay still and sleep/harden"

>>28973717
I like it.

>>28973930
Feint attack has crazy potential because of how it can be chained into things.

>>28973981
I don't care how similar the missions are, sanity/corruption/soul stats are dumb. That should be roleplay stuff. Not to mention it's a considerable nerf to dark moves which we happened to have dumped a shit ton of points into recently. It feels unfair to add them after the fact.

>>28973854
>Yeah, that's a thing that I think they didn't read.
I did read that.

You didn't define what "quick succession" is. For all we know, that could activate if we Nasty Plot to boost, then Snarl and Feint Attack into a Frost Breath.

I don't think you understand that nerfing things we've purchased not because they are OP, but rather because you want to write crazy characters, is a dick move. Is it within your power and rights as the QM? Yeah. Still dickish.

>>28974025
It's fiiiiine.

>>28974025
For what it's worth, Prof, I actually like the change. It'll improve things from a narrative standpoint, if not a mechanical one. And I know which side I prefer.

>>28974014
First, that has to be put into practice first. And it has to show its worth. If Prof can show that its worth having that penalty on, that's good. Basically what I said here
>>28973930
If Evil moves are good enough to require an extra penalty, then go ahead and add them.

But the thing is, we have to roll just to make the attack in the first place, and dice can be fickle. There was already one instance where we almost killed a friend because of a crit failure. Why add another penalty when he's already willing to go that far to punish a poor roll? Why risk aggravating people more? People are already aggravated now.

>>28974014
as I understand it, it's functionally the same when chaining as lock on, except it has different typing interactions. So there isn't much reason to use it unless you are attacking an esper.

>>28974025
It is a tad dickish, yeah, but I enjoy reading crazy characters. Win some, lose some.

>>28974014
Feint Attack+Lock on should mean effectively 100% hit chance and high crit chance, any more and it might be overpowered/too all-encompassing

>>28974081
>If Evil moves are good enough to require an extra penalty, then go ahead and add them.
Forgot to say
>But Prof has to prove that first in the game itself. Hypotheticals don't work.

Sanna's looking away right now, her face covered by her hoodie. You squirm a little bit as you come out of your "mission face."
The two of you are protected from the clear morning sun by the trees of this park, sunlight filtering through the leaves by emerald shade. The sunlight is little uncomfortable against your fur, but still kind of nice the way it makes your fur shine.

You sniff the air, trying to discern whether Sanna's wearing a fragrance.
She's not.

Well that's odd. You think to yourself for a moment before she turns to you, catching you sniffing.
"Hm? What is it Fat Cat, got somethin' ta say?" Woah, yeah. She's a bit mad at you.

A little meekness might help here. You touch your thumbs together and angle your toes away with a slightly averted gaze so as to not look her in the eye.
"Hey. I'm- uh- sorry about yesterday. It was too strong for my nose. It was really good though, you know?" You bring your claws up, pleading,"I'm really, really sorry about that. I didn't mean it, I really didn't."

Sanna holds up a hand for you to stop before sighing and relaxing a little. "Yeah, yeah, I kind of figured it was like that. I kind of suck at making those things anyway. Look. You don't talk about it anymore and we'll call it even. I did throw ya out on yer tush anyway."
Sanna seems to be pretty resigned about the whole thing.
You really did like the smell though.

>[] Try to convince her that it's great.
>[] Drop the subject and wait for Devon.
>[] Ask her why she isn't wearing a scent.
>[] (Other)

>>28974078
I also don't mind the change

>>28974107
was feint attack changed to affect crit chance? otherwise that would be focus energy.

>>28974081
That was supposed to be a lesson in not using evil moves in friendly fights.

>>28974122
>Try to convince her that it's great
Oh Sanna.

>[X] Try to convince her that it's great.
The reason I was at your door was because it smelled so great. I almost ate some! I'm sorry! Really, really sorry I made you doubt yourself.

>>28974081
>If Evil moves are good enough to require an extra penalty, then go ahead and add them
Except they're not. If he's going to add a massive fucking penalty onto them for flavor reasons, he better buff the fuck out of the moves themselves.

>>28974122
>[] Drop the subject and wait for Devon.

>>28974122
>[] Try to convince her that it's great.
Maybe ask if we can use the perfume.

>>28974113
Well, we don't have much evidence to go on, but from what I have seen thus far, Feint Attack is crazy stronk.

>>28974122
>>28974153
Yeah, tell her that the reason we came to her room was because of how nice the smell coming from it was.

>>28974122
>[] Drop the subject and wait for Devon.

>>28974126
not expecting an attack means that you can't tense your muscles/use your defenses to their fullest. Armor pierce is too much, but I would say it counts for higher crit chance if we level both moves more.

>>28974122
ask for a DILUTED bottle of the stuff, saying that it really does smell nice.

>>28974122
>[] Try to convince her that it's great.

>>28974122
>>[X] Try to convince her that it's great.

>>28974122
[x]you don't suck! It smelled good! Perfume is always overpowering if it's too concentrated!

>>28974187
Er, no. The one time we used it doesn't really showcase how good it is.

I'm asking for mechanical benefits. That one time with Alexis was more of a cinematic. If Prof wants to add mechanical penalties to Evil type moves, he has to show the mechanical benefits first.

>>28974122

>Smile
>Eyes wide
>Thank her, Thank her Thank her Thank her for forgiving you.

>>28974122
>[X] Try to convince her that it's great.

It actually was. Just not in such huge quantities. Darn vomeronasal organ.

>>28974163
>massive fucking penalty

Slight exaggeration there.

>>28974122
>>[] Try to convince her that it's great.

Rolled 12 + 2

Trying to convince.

Sanna:
C+1 R+1 1d20

Cerulean
C+3 R+2 1d20

>>28974270
I luled.

Rolled 11 + 5

>>28974294

Rolled 8 + 5

>>28974294

Rolled 15 + 5

>>28974294
You want us to roll?

Rolled 6 + 5

>>28974294
Woohoo.

Rolled 18 + 5

>>28974294

>>28974294
She's rolling to resist our charm?

HUMPH!

>>28974294
>That feel when you wanna roll and participate but you've already rolled two nat 1s today
Y-Yeah you guys do it!

Rolled 1 + 5

>>28974294
be sure to thank her for forgiving you

>>28974343
Thank the fucking Lord that this was the 6th roll.

>>28974335
You almost brought this down on us all, you bastard.

>>28974343
thank goodness I'm too late.

>>28974278
>Slight exaggeration there.
Adding a second roll to not go into an extended psychopathic state of bloodlust is not a massive penalty?

I'm sitting here trying to think of what could possibly make you think that would not be a massive penalty, and I'm not coming up with much.

All this does is make it so we never use dark moves again, resulting in narrative inconsistency as to why Ceru spent two years working on techniques that are damn near suicidal to think about using on actual missions.

>>28974163
>massive fucking penalty

Nasty Plot into Snarl into Feint attack would definitely trigger a roll for regaining Conscious thought.
Just Feint attack Or Snarl into Feint wouldn't necessarily incur the need to roll for san.

Fighting an esper with such abandon may actually be preferrable, though it could cause Ceru to go on a rampage between her guns and claws. Tenacity+ Rocket training would be used to roll against Feral/Evil nature.
Also, either charm or Tenacity could be spent to break the mode if it got out of hand.

It's an anti-esper measure that would give her immunity against their mind-reading which would make fighting a more advanced esper
Kadabra/Alakazam/Kirlia/Gardevoir/Drowzee SIGNIFICANTLY easier.

It's something that'd be useful against espers, though you won't need to rely on it as much.

>>28974424
Lower ranks could make the DC higher, if that's what we're talking about.

>>28974424
I'm sure the DC won't be ridiculously high.

>>28974451
>It's something that'd be useful against espers, though you won't need to rely on it as much against non-espers.*

>>28974294
should Sanna really be using Charm for this, and not perception or intelligence? Charm doesn't really strike me as the power to be depressed.

....lol, on that note, why does rocket training help? ELITE DEPRESSION

>>28974424
He said "when used in succession." So you need to use at least to in a row. And then we don't even know what the DC is, and if it can be attempted every turn thereafter or what. The actual severity of the penalty is completely unknown.

Wait, do we actually have Nasty Plot?

>>28974468
Yeah, I don't think we'll need to use Evil moves as heavily on non-Espers. Crossroad Killing, definitely, is good on its own.

However, you can work on putting the stuff you described here
>>28974451
under more understandable and concrete terms at another time, Prof. You can just focus on writing the story for now.

>>28974516
Fuck yeah we do. Rank 2.

>>28974451
>Remove the Stamina costs from all Evil moves
>Add in a Sanity stat
>Sanity above X% regens at a rate of Y per turn.
>Possibly link Y to Tenacity or other stats
>Have Evil moves cost sanity points to use.
That would be a much less shitty system than san rolls.

>>28974479
According to >>28974451, three Evil moves will do it. That's insane. It would make Evil moves nearly worthless in both squad settings and solo.

>>28974516
Yes, and I want a refund now.

>>28972755
>>28972755
Devon is paranoid as shit, What does he think when he sees us?

Rolled 8 + 5

>>28974516
Nasty Plot, Snarl, and Feint Attack I believe.

>>28974548
And Cross Roads Killing (AKA Night Slash)

>>28974545
>three Evil moves will do it.
Within one or two posts. It's not that bad and the other system will just make things more complicated, though I'll consider it if other anons agree.

>>28974516
Yup. It ups our non-physical attacks which means it works well with a lot of other stuff we do.

>>28974545
So Dark attacks don't have any effect on Stamina? That doesn't seem quite right. Just roll with it.

>>28974547
We aren't an Esper so he doesn't unnerve us that much. We just have to make it clear that we're in charge and he ought to fall in line.

>>28974548
Cool beans

I was hoping we'd get those eventually. Must have missed it.

>>28974545
>three Evil moves will do it. That's insane. It would make Evil moves nearly worthless in both squad settings and solo.

How many attacks do you think most battles last?

>>28974577
It's too complicated, I say. Just try to streamline things as best as you can and lay down the rules you've made in an understandable manner.

Like with that one or two posts cooldown thing. It'd be nice if you could be more specific and concrete about it.

>>28974545
3 moves AT A TIME, so it's not so bad. We can just spend a turn making cold mist before starting the evil barrage again.

>>28974617
The benefit is that vs an esper, you'd become a pseudo evil type.
Risk vs reward.
>Writing.

>>28974582
>>28974582
not what we think of him, I want to see what he sees ceru as

>>28974577
>>28974617
>>28974590
Do you even understand how the Evil moves will work in actual combat?

The main advantage to the Evil moves is that we can combo them.

This takes that away. Feint Attack is good because it combos. Snarl is good because it's a free action. Nasty Plot is good because you use it before the attack starts to begin the combo.

Adding the san check will result in nearly every single attack in which Ceru is the aggressor requiring a sanity check.

>Nasty Plot to boost Spec Attack
>Feint Attack to get in close
>Snarl because free action that cripples
>Ice Breath for the kill
And now you've exceeded the Evil technique limit and you have to san roll. After one turn of combat.

It kills the biggest advantage to Evil moves.

>>28974645
nooo, don't tempt us to make Ceru crazy! We must preserve the hugs as long as we can!

>>28974684
We can still hug, we'd simply ponder the though of tearing out his entrails and rolling in them like a fucking cat

>>28974645
Er, you meant to quote someone else, right?

>>28974668
A rival, obviously. He thinks of Goldie as someone who's planning to usurp him from behind. He sees Ceru as someone he's competing with directly.

>>28974684
Er.....I think you misunderstood him.

>>28974681
You misunderstood. It's like if we used 3 moves in one action, that would be fine and we'd be up to use that many moves again in our next prompt.

If we go up to 4 Evil moves in one post, that's when we'd have to roll. In your example, Ice Breath is fine as its an Ice type move, so we wouldn't need to roll there.

>>28974681
All it takes is a feint attack / crossroads killing to annihilate an esper. You don't need to snarl and and nasty plot, they are dead anyways. hell, you could lock on instead of feint attack, maybe add in a focus energy for a better shot at critting for utter murder. I'm not even sure nasty plot would help, since in the games it is for special attack.

>>28974681
Or you could, you know, just use two of those evil moves. Its not a big deal really.

>>28974681
that's because you're trying to maximize all your moves. If you're going for the kill, Snarl is pointless. Using only 2 of those 3 at a time is already very effective.

Besides, I don't think 3 is the hardcoded number. Crossroad Killings seems to me like a much weightier move to use than snarl in terms of needing san checks.

>>28974738
In his example, Nasty Plot would be used to improve Frost Breath.

>>28974681
We could not use three Evil techniques in one turn then?

Like a Nasty Plot into a Water Gun?
Or a Feint Attack-Night Slash?