Also I have the Crimson Slaughter book and I will answer any questions regarding it.

>>30859033
Did you ever ban anyone?

>>30859033
What happened to Flight 370?

How cynical is everyone behind closed doors?

>>30859062

Ever watch Non-Stop with Liam Neeson?

>>30859055

No sir, I did ask a patron or two to leave and calm down for a day or two. However I never outright banned anyone from my store.

>>30859062
Who was on the phone?

>>30859069
Depends on how long they've worked there and how high up the food chain they are.

New Guys are upper level management are GW kool-aid drinkers. Everything GW does is correct and righteous. Guys who've been there for 3+ years and are ground level guys mostly hate GW. The job is amazing GW's corporate politics are awful.

Did you ever work with any cool projects that we'll never know about because they didn't make the cut?

>>30859033

Do you ever check for recasts or 3d printed minis in your store? Have you found any?

>>30859146

I am/was just a retail goon so I never got to see anything cool or secret. Well I did see the Knights in the Warehouse like 2 months before they launched, but that is about it.

What's the relationship like between mainline GW and FW, given that FW seems to have a very different outlook and attitude towards its customer base the GW does.

>>30859157

I never actively checked for them but I've caught recasts before. Doubtful they were the higher quality recasts but I've picked up a tank or two and realized it was noticeably lighter or heavier than a normal plastic kit.

I've also seen an few odd break and found a recast in that manner. Having been around for awhile when a kit breaks I tend to know what the component bits look like and when this kit broke it didn't break into any of its standard bits.

>>30859195

Forgeworld has its own business that operates under the GW umbrella basically. They've got their own teams for various processes and they handle themselves in a manner they see fit. As long as they continue to produce the extremely high profit levels they are currently at I'd imagine GW will stay content with them.

That said there is some internal contention among staff who dislike FW for various reasons.

Did having the job change your hobbies? Did you get fed up with Warhammer by being surrounded with it so much, or did you get into something that you carried?

>>30859230
and how did you react did you tell them to replace it?

>>30859263
>That said there is some internal contention among staff who dislike FW for various reasons.

Really? What sort of contention?

>>30859230

So what did you do? Isn't it gw policy go ban players using forged minis?

>>30859268

It definitely put a damper on my hobby. I continued to participate in the hobby ('m a big WHFB fan) however after you spend 8 hours around toy soldiers it is a rare day you want to go home and hobby. However over my course of working with GW I both started new armies and expanded existing armies so I never fell out all together.

>>30859263
>high profit levels

It's because of Horus Heresy. I'm betting dollars to donuts they're making more now than they've ever been.

Take that, xenos crybabbies "remove marines from the game, why does GW do so much marine shit".

Not trying to Hijack the thread but Ex-Aussie staffer here too.

I'll answer any questions directed at me and anything that was significantly different for me.

>>30859263
What were some of the reasons why FW was hated by the staff?

>>30859278
>>30859291

I'm a low key guy. I asked them to remove the recast model and not to bring it back in the store.

There is no "official" GW policy on re-casters. They are a very very small portion of the customer base so GW isn't spending time and energy crafting policies on how to deal with the issue.

>>30859195

Adding onto that, what about the relationship between BL and GW? BL seems to do it's own thing independnantly from GW most of the time.

>>30859049
Worth it, or complete trash?

IMHO, The fucking knight "codex" is a complete waste of $40 because 2 units, lolz!

So, If i get this piece of jewbait, will it be in anyway different than a CSM codex? Does it at least vastly alter the Codex in the same way that the nid dataslates do?

>>30859322

Probably lore/model clashing. Certain new GW shit makes no sense due to FW stuff, and FW's latest book has had to explain a ton of new GW shit.

>>30859033
What is it you'd consider the absolute worst thing you've experienced or done at your store?

How much of a fuck does GW care about Chinaman?

How much did you give?

>>30859289

I can only voice my contention. Retail is an EXTREMELY numbers driven business and it stings to see FW making money from online orders (instead of me selling it in my store). That money could have been spent in my store and helped me make my numbers, but instead it goes to FW and I don't credit for a dime.

>>30859321
Welcome friend. What time frame did you work for GW during?

>>30859317
HH is big but Forge World is profitable by their nature. They run no stores, have little overhead, and sell as vastly inflated margins. They're designed to be profitable.

Why does /tg/ whine and bitch so much about GW and 40K but in this thread everyone clamors for info?

>>30859374

He answered that last time. GW doesn't give a rat's arse about Chinaman or any recaster.

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Why can't we have frogs playing gridiron?

>>30859389
>That money could have been spent in my store and helped me make my numbers, but instead it goes to FW and I don't credit for a dime.

No, it couldn't have. Your store doesn't offer any of FW's stuff. If someone wants a FW unit, it doesn't mean they will buy a completely different one from your store instead.

>>30859403

War Amphibians

>>30859389
>I can only voice my contention. Retail is an EXTREMELY numbers driven business and it stings to see FW making money from online orders (instead of me selling it in my store). That money could have been spent in my store and helped me make my numbers, but instead it goes to FW and I don't credit for a dime.

My GW used to order FW for me through the store. That saved shipping and added to their overhead. Do they not do that everywhere?

>>30859339

Black Library is effectively in the same boat as FW. Independent business that operates under the umbrella. As long as they remain profitable it is a NQA policy. I do know they have to run shit through Alan Merret who is the head of IP for GW (and a total nut job).

>>30859360
A kid pissed in my floor once. That sucked ass.

>>30859403
I routinely play against a Slann team with my Dwarf team. They're great in league play but rough in tournament play.

>>30859389
>Welcome friend. What time frame did you work for GW during
Opened with a new store in early 08, quit in mid 10 when I couldn't take it anymore, I quit the hobby for 2 years because of it.

>>30859424

Let me clarify. I meant to say I wished to be able to sell FW through my store, no that I wish someone would purchase non-FW. If you wanted FW and I had it in my store that money would count for me which would help me meet my numbers.

>>30859453
That was an older policy and was stopped because FW could not keep up with store orders.

>>30859459
>I do know they have to run shit through Alan Merret who is the head of IP for GW (and a total nut job).

How is Alan Merrit a nut job? I met him at the HH weekender and he seemed like a nice enough guy.

If I remember correctly, didn't you use to be able to order FW in-store? If so, why'd they change that?

>>30859498

Here is my FAVORITE Alan Merret story.

Did anyone on /tg/ purchase any of GW's thin plastic glue during 2013 (early part)? It was terrible, it failed to bond the plastic, instead it crystallized and ate detail. Internally this was acknowledged, an email was sent saying it had been addressed, etc. etc.

To be clear GW was aware of the issue. Mr. Merret was the USHQ and saw a CServ team member sending out product to a gentlemen who had had models ruined by the plastic glue (after the internal acknowledgement). He told the CServ member there was nothing wrong with our plastic glue and that the hobbyist had instead used too much.

>>30859521

In the US bunkers could order Forge World from 2010-2012 (perhaps earlier than '10). However there were ALWAYS issues with bunkers getting their orders. They were often very late (3+ months), parts and pieces were missing, and the store could do little other than contact FW for the customer if there was an issue.

The 5 (at the time) bunker managers brought the issue up to Mark Wells (CEO at the time) to get resolution regarding the situation. Mark Wells decision (presumably by way of Forge World) was to stop allowing the bunkers to order and sell FW.

>>30859033
Do you play X-wing?

>>30859498

Wasn't he on the stand at the Chapterhouse Case?

>>30859349

Sorry I missed you! I like the Crimson Slaughter book but I'd pirate it. It has 3 pages of actual useable rules, the rest is fluff, CoD strategems, missions, etc.

You can take Possessed as troops and they get good relics.

>>30859612
Yes, and he fubbed it.

>>30859552

How is that any different from what other higher up execs would have done? I still can't see the problem with Alan Merret here.

>>30859552
Jesus. What a cunt.

>>30859594
X-Wing is a terrible game. I don't know why anybody would want to play it, let alone dish out the money for an entire fleet of ships.

>>30859636
>>30859635
GWs player base in a nutshell.

>>30859594

I've played it a bit. Once I get back on my feet I think I'll buy in to it some more as it was very fun the few games I've played.

>>30859612
He was, and made a mess of it. He took most of the questions personally, rarely answered well, looked bumbling, and was generally inept.

>>30859635
Any other higher up would have A) kept their mouth shut since the CServ rep was doing his job to make up for a GW blunder and B) recognized there was an internal admission of error and not tried to blame the customer.

He did tell a customer the glue was OK, he told a Customer Service Rep, one of the primary guys dealing with the issue, that the glue was OK. AFTER GW HAD ACKNOWLEDGED THERE WAS A PROBLEM. That is lunacy.

>>30859676
>There's also rumors that they would reintroduce this.
It goes live April 3rd
>Does FW themselves not want to allow you guys to sell their stuff?
Its simply practicality, its taken two years of expansion to get to the point where GW is confident it can mach demand.

>>30859676

They preferred to spend their time shipping to their direct customers (whom they made a larger margin off of) than the stores. FW's team is very very small in the grand scheme of things and keeping up with the volume of orders the bunkers placed was difficult for them.

>>30859711

It was never GW who wasn't confident they could meet and keep up with demand. They've got the infrastructure to support a direct order FW ability and have had it for years. It was getting FW to hire the staff and invest in the necessary manufacturing capacity that was causing the slowdown.

>>30859726

Isn't the HH series forcing FW to upsize? Wouldn't that mean that it should become easier to obtain FW products?

>>30859688

So aside from Alan Merret who are the big nut jobs of GW and how?

Merret seemed a nice guy at the HH Weekender, Almost makes mem regret thanking him for his HH work.

>>30859761

HH gave them an incentive to increase their operating capacity but GW effectively told them to as well. At the end of the day GW holds the cards in that relationship because they own the IP, they can absorb FW, strip it of its rights, or do anything else excessively stupid if they decided to be bitchy enough. Sure it would be cutting off their own nose to spite their face but that's not unknown for GW.

>>30859749
>It was never GW who wasn't confident they could meet and keep up with demand. They've got the infrastructure to support a direct order FW ability and have had it for years. It was getting FW to hire the staff and invest in the necessary manufacturing capacity that was causing the slowdown.

IDK from my perspective FW is just a department of GW with about as much oversight as GW OZ

>>30859791

Merret is nutty, Kirby is occasionally bonkers. Those two are about it. After them is a succession of yes men who tell them everything they do is OK and alright because that's how you get ahead in GW.

>>30859033
May I ask if you were given any specific guidelines on how to deal with people hacked off at certain GW writers taking a dump on the lore?

>>30859823

So does that mean Alan Bligh is Ok? He does most of the FW stuff under Merret.

Who is the head of BL, if I might ask? I've never heard of an overall exec for BL the way Merret is for FW.

>>30859828
>m-muh entitlement
How about "tell them to fuck off"? That would be my policy.

>>30859816

They operate more independently than any of the retail businesses. For example they don't use the GW distribution models, and they maintain their own customer service team. They've got a lot more autonomy is most respects.

>>30859828
While it was specific we had our 10 Commandments of Customer Service of which number 4 was to Maintain a Positive and Productive environment.

The goal was to turn those complaints in to something more positive or to "u-turn" away from the negativity. I never really had a problem with that type of thing because I always related to customers well enough to kind of gently agree and move on.

The training on how to do so was hillarious though.

>>30859860

Never met Bligh in more than passing. However at GamesDays he was always a nice guy, he bought me a beer after I worked the GW section one year. For clarity Merret is the overall head of GW's IP. He does not work exclusively with FW or any other Group member. He is effectively the number 2 or 3 man in the business at this point

>>30859800
This is more of a person opinion question, but my gaming group have discussed this at length recently, and I'm curious as to get an "insider's opinion"

Basically, we think that GW is only hurting themselves with their continual price increases, because it's driving away new or casual players, and causing even hardcore players to spend less money.

It used to be a gaming group would have at least one copy of every army book to play with, or just to know how the different rules worked. But now that they're 50 dollars a piece, people are ONLY buying their own army book. In a group of 4 people, 200 dollars (4 books at 50 bucks) seems worse than 300+ dollars (10+ books at 30ish bucks) not to mention that nobody actually wins in this scenario.

And the increase of price vs number of models in their kits has led to a bunch more proxying, and only buying like one 'cool model'.

tl;dr - The price increases that GW loves so much is hurting them, their hobby and their bottom line

>>30859885
>They operate more independently than any of the retail businesses. For example they don't use the GW distribution models, and they maintain their own customer service team. They've got a lot more autonomy is most respects.

And BL outdoes GW in it's customer service and it's relationship with the fanbase. It even previews it's models sperately of GW's no-leaks policy. Isn't there rules about that sort of thing that it should have to follow? FW sounds like it's a loose canon in some respects.

>>30859885

Thank you, that explains a great deal when it comes to a lot of arguments i've seen.

Sisters of Battle. Do you know of ANY hope?

>>30859912
>tl;dr - The price increases that GW loves so much is hurting them, their hobby and their bottom line

GW hasn't stopped making profits in quite some time, how is it hurting their bottom line?

>>30859800
>Sure it would be cutting off their own nose to spite their face but that's not unknown for GW.
Isn't that the fucking truth.

>>30859912

I agree in large part. I won't get in to a huge pricing debate because I don't have a problem with some of the models. However yes, prices are steep impediment to growth.

BRB guys, taking care of my dog.

>>30859912
>tl;dr - The price increases that GW loves so much is hurting them, their hobby and their bottom line

Read GW's business model:
http://investor.games-workshop.com/our-business-model/

It should really help you understand what GW is.

>>30859912
>tl;dr - The price increases that GW loves so much is hurting them, their hobby and their bottom line
It is/was.
IMO
The decision to move to one man stores is an example of GW noticing this trend, and now attempting every other manner of cost saving.
Combined with the massive spike in digital, the trade embargos and the rushed release schedule my guess is corporate is seriously attempting to boost sales growth and make the company as attractive as possible.

GW hasnt had negative profits for a long time, but year on year increase have been bad, particularly here.

>>30859885


Almighty ex-staffer, why do the SoB models cost so fucking much when GW sells other similar products for half the price? 10 Vostroyans is $50 but 10 SoB is $100, like what the fuck..

>>30859956
>Sisters of Battle. Do you know of ANY hope?
I still have friends in GW, some are relatively high.
One is a regional manager who has a lot of sisters, he isn't expecting plastics.

>>30860027
SoB players are fanboys who'll actually pay that.

>>30859974
Not being in the red =/= Not bad for their bottom line.

I don't know if you know how businesses work, but see, you have revenues and expenses. The difference is your profit. In order to increase your net profit, you can increase revenues or decrease expenses (yes, high school economics).

If you've paid attention to what GW has been doing lately, combined with OP's stories, you would see that GW is cutting costs everywhere they can (1 man stores, etc) and they're still making less money every year.

I've looked at their financial records, and there was one year that the biggest revenue stream they had was from external uses of their IPs (video games and such). Now that Sega bought the rights, I guess they'll have that back, but that still speaks poorly for the sustainability of their miniature games.

>>30860027
>why do the SoB models cost so fucking much
Because fuck you, Sisters players will still buy them but no one new will start sisters.
Also you still buy them? I hadn't noticed but I guess they went finecast.
Lame.

>>30860005
>We don’t spend money on things we don’t need, like expensive offices or prime rent shopping locations or advertising that speaks to the mass market and not our small band of loyal followers.
>And when we make an investment, we measure its impact to ensure that it delivers an improved return on capital for our owners.

>>30860074
>you would see that GW is cutting costs everywhere they can
Are you somehow implying that cutting costs is a bad thing? If one man stores work as well as 4 man stores, who cares? Like you said, revenue and expenses.

>One year that the biggest revenue stream they had was from external uses of their IPs
They've invested a lot into their IP. In the future, I can see them depending more and more on their IP for revenue.

>>30860081
Nope, they're STILL metal.I'm an SoB player and I've not bothered to expand my army since that abortion of a WD 'Codex'.

>>30860081
>I hadn't noticed but I guess they went finecast.

I hope they wont do that, the only thing more expensive than SoB is finecast Legion of the Damned.

>>30860227
>Are you somehow implying that cutting costs is a bad thing? If one man stores work as well as 4 man stores, who cares? Like you said, revenue and expenses.

Generally speaking, cutting costs is indicative of problems. Generating more revenue is almost universally better. Cutting costs is reactionary. Raising revenues is being active.

Basically, it implies that GW realizes they're having problems. Which is the basis of my argument.

>>30860074
Plus it's just pretty obvious that lower prices would result in a shitload more new customers.

My parents definitely wouldn't have bought me any warhammer as a kid if it had been the price it is now.

The kid market is pretty important too, I ended up sinking a load of money into Games Workshop stuff and I'm unlikely to have done that were it not for the fact I'd been bought some lizardmen sauruses when I was a child.

>>30860234
>Nope, they're STILL metal.
>>30860273
>I hope they wont do that

Well they recently started melting down existing metal products, so yeah...

>>30860307
>Generally speaking, cutting costs is indicative of problems.

I think that's too much of a generalization though. Cutting costs has the connotation of sacrificing quality, but are you sure that this is what they are doing? What if they are "reducing costs" instead of "cutting costs?" We all know that brick-and-mortar stores are huge expenditure compared to internet stores.

Perhaps GW has finally gotten the market saturation it wants. Nearly all hobbyists know of GW now. The brick-and-mortar stores were instrumental in introducing the product to the customers (that's how I originally got into 40K, I still remember the brand new crimson red storefront that appeared one day at the mall) but they're no longer necessary.

>>30860357
>The kid market is pretty important too

I don't think that is true. I think that GW's business relies on creation of hardcore repeat customers. The kid market will generate a meager amount of one-off sales compared to the repeat. In GW's experience, high prices might not have much negative effect on hooking a customer to the hobby.

Psychologically, high prices pairs VERY WELL with repeat customers. Why would you ever think of giving up the hobby now that you've spent well over $1,000 on it?

>>30860382
>Well they recently started melting down existing metal products, so yeah...
Why would they do that? Just toss them in the collectors section and let people who want old metal crap buy them for way more than the raw materials would be worth if you melted them down.

>>30860514

This is entirely incorrect. Our entire training, focus, everything we did was built on recruitment. Games Workshop is in no way interested in veteran customers or repeat business past 1 year.

>>30860514
Because you can sell it on ebay for some quick cash and then do something else. This doesn't work like MMOs where theres no return. No business can survive forever without making new customers.

>>30860514
The problem is that unless you manage to get the kid market, it's very difficult to GET repeat customers. Kids are a great target for that because they aren't spending their own hard-earned money, they're spending their parents' money. If you can get them hooked early, they'll be a lifelong customer.
It's a lot harder to hook an adult who has to decide whether this new game is worth dropping a full paycheck on just to get started.

>>30860514
No, but I wouldn't buy any new things.
If I had SoB, I wouldn't buy any new figs if they were too expensive, I'd just keep playing the old ones with my friends.

>>30860563

It is a tax break. You destroy the model the models and claim is a destroyed property to get the tax break.

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>>30859033
Please, M'Lord, are Orks getting updated next?

These threads have been confirmed to nearly always be fake.

>>30860666

Shut up Satan.

>>30860666

I ran a solid day last time I did this. Additionally I have no reason to lie regarding my employment with GW. I'll post a pic of my uniform shirt in a bit.

>>30860664
I unfortunately do not know. I was a low level retail goon so release information isn't something I know much about. However I do join you in your hope as I too am an Ork player.

>>30860664
>Please, M'Lord, are Orks getting updated next?
at this point the internet is almost 100% on whats coming in the next 2 months and 75% on the next 4.

We know what the internet knows.
And the internet thinks Orks are before June.

>>30859860

re-requesting this.

>Who is the head of BL, if I might ask? I've never heard of an overall exec for BL the way Merret is for FW.

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>>30860751
>me gob when
It's the codex that everyone actually wants.

>>30860753

I don't know the head of BL. Never met him or seen any major emails from him.

Has the new weekly White Dwarf actually managed to bring in more customers?

>>30860814

In my experience no. We have sold more to customers already in the shop but I've not seen an uptick in customers coming in every week to pick one up.

>>30859637
Its like some people hate fun

>>30860052
Your friends wouldn't necessarily be in the know about that, though. Or they may still be a little while off.

GW have tried to make plastic Sisters, you know. And the digital codex seemed to sell well, according to iBooks. It's certainly not hopeless.

>>30860577
>Because you can sell it on ebay for some quick cash and then do something else.
Okay I didn't consider that.

>>30860567
>This is entirely incorrect. Our entire training, focus, everything we did was built on recruitment.
I understood the storefront as a method to get as many people hooked on the hobby as fast as possible; that's as far as that goes.

>Games Workshop is in no way interested in veteran customers or repeat business past 1 year.
Is the percentage of sales to new customers much greater than repeating customers?

>>30860840
Does anyone actually buy Visions?

Is there anything that you really enjoyed about working for GW?

>>30860905
>Is the percentage of sales to new customers much greater than repeating customers?
Its more that the average customer will drop 750+ in the first year and 250 the year after.

but its super easy to get repeat customers regularly paying more than that 250 and its super hard to get new people into the hobby when the rulebook is $150 and an army book is $83, and a 1500pt army can easily run above $600

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>>30860905

Very much so. Games Workshop says (we were trained this much) that a new customer spends between 700 to 1k a year. A veteran may spend 200-400 a year so Games Workshop wants as many new customers and thus 7-1k a year. Any existing customers spending their money is a bonus.

The drive to recruit and focus all efforts on new customers is by no means a storefront policy only. It is the lifeblood of GW's entire policy, recruit, recruit, recruit. Everyone's job is facilitate recruitment. From Kirby down, decisions are made based on the idea of bringing in new customers, not pleasing existing customers.

Also here is my work shirt for some verification of me.

>Even though we have been in the UK for 35 years, we still see opportunities for growth here with smaller one man Hobby centres in market towns and suburbs of large cities. Compared to the UK, most of the rest of the world is for us still “green field” territory.

Is it true that ALL hobby centers are one-man? Because this quote seems to imply that only hobby centers in saturated areas are one-man.

>>30860909

Some people yes. There is a a dedicated subset of customers who enjoy painting, modelling and looking at pictures of pretty models. For those people Visions is an ideal magazine.

>>30860937
I LOVED my actual job. Helping people with their hobby, be it painting, gaming, or building was amazing. I loved recruiting people in to the hobby because I've always enjoyed my hobby. So getting people involved is something I like to do. Nothing is cooler than watching a young person you brought in to the hobby and taught to basecoat, layer, shade, and drybrush eclipse your own paint skills. Having a guy I recruited win a Golden in Golden Demon was an awesome feeling.

How did people react when they turned white dwarf subs into vision subs? Also at my store they gave me store credit for the value of my sub on anything in store is that head office policy or are the guys at my GW just nice?

What are top and worst saleing armies in 40k by now?

>>30860963

Most hobby centers are one mans now. There exist a few non one mans but the future of the business (currently) is one man stores.

>>30861013
Mixed reviews, some people were OK with it and kept getting their sub. Others were upset and wanted to exchange. The exchange policy was a GW policy, all stores offered store credit for the value of the remaining vouchers.

>>30861034

I can answer based on my own experiences but I have no hard data to back this up.

Space Marines and Tau have always been very popular in my store. Dark Eldar and Demons have never been popular. But again this is all based on my own experiences in retail and isn't backed up by hard data.

Since you're on the retail side, what's the general feeling about independent retailers who sell GW stuff?

>>30859033

Not sure how long youve been with the company but were you around when GW stopped their leases with the Mills Malls around the US?
If so was it true that Mills was trying to greatly increase the lease rate so GW pulled out?
Just asking cause I was in Denver when they did that and from what I heard the store at Colorado Mills was one of the highest grossing stores at the time.

>>30861006
I think that GW stores are much better places to get into the hobby and hobbying in general than the vast majority of FLGSes i've seen. Many of those places are run and staffed by oafs with no social grace at all and the atmosphere for an unfamiliar face can be downright adversarial.

>>30861085

The goal is always to work with IRs. One man stores cannot support communities where most IRs can so if you're smart you work with your local IRs instead of against them. You recruit and cycle hobbyists out to them. Some guys fuck that up real bad though.

Personally I love a good FLGS, I'm not a GW only man so I like to be able to go and play other games with friends.

>>30861129
Interesting. I ask because I've spoken with game store owners who've described his relationship with GW in a more negative light. I was wondering if it was GW, or if he's just a dick.

>>30859389
>That money could have been spent in my store and helped me make my numbers, but instead it goes to FW and I don't credit for a dime.

Thats funny. The guy down at my shop always gives me shit when my GW online order lands in their shop. Keeps telling me I should order in store to help them out.

>>30861113

Colorado is a very profitable area for us. The one man out there is a high grossing store.

We pulled out of the Mills leases because of rent increases as well as the general move to one man stores. You can't run a one man mall store.

Do they understand they are trying to sale a hour of work in MS Word for a price of a good prined book with digital editions?
Or just fucking nothing in case of dataslates.
In other words, do they understand it's bad but do for profit or do they think it's totally ok.

>>30861176

I wonder if they let them smoke Weed in the Colorado Store. It would make the games that much more interesting.

>>30861173

Is he talking about his relationship with a local GW store or with his trade account guy?

>>30861175
Yeah unfortunately he doesn't get credit if you order from home and have it shipped to his store. I can't fault him too much because I've had the same thoughts but I don't voice them to customers (unprofessional).

>>30861227

Well they're very profitable because as you said the investment is so very low. Games Workshop looks at profit margins as one of their major drivers so if they see a good margin they're going to go for it.

I personally haven't purchased any data-slates or e-books so I cannot comment on the quality.

>>30861239
>I wonder if they let them smoke Weed in the Colorado Store.
Obviosly not, they may allow stoned patrons in, but I've asked drunk people o leave before.

>>30859110
>New Guys are upper level management are GW kool-aid drinkers. Everything GW does is correct and righteous. Guys who've been there for 3+ years and are ground level guys mostly hate GW. The job is amazing GW's corporate politics are awful.
That sounds exactly like my time working at disneyworld

>>30861239

I'd image not as the goal is to maintain a "family-friendly" atmosphere. You want Little Johnny's mom to feel comfortable bringing him in. Nothing scare off Mom more than smokers outside the front door or foul language in the shop.

>>30861227

>Do they understand they are trying to sale a hour of work in MS Word for a price of a good prined book with digital editions?

If you're going to go about criticizing something, don't do it moronically.

This is worse than the people who seriously models should be cheap because plastic is cheap.

>>30861303

I would imagine in the grand scheme of the world this is how most companies work.

>>30861326
GWIDF is it you?

>>30861387

Right, I'm GWIDF because I understand that it actually costs money to create things.

What do they think about those early photos of white dwarf pages leaking into the web all the time.

>>30861442

They hate that shit, at least that is what they tell us. They're constantly ratcheting down on available information, reminding people of NDAs and such.

>>30861387

Are you fucking stupid? This is simple business sense. If you can write something in MS Word in an hour and sell it for the price of a novel, there's no reason not do to it. Every single business entity in this Solar System wishes they could do that; this isn't an GW exclusive thing.

How is GW still in business?
Serious question.

>>30861486
Hang on, what did they write in an hour?

>>30861497

Good margins on products, strong cost control, and they generally produce a reasonable product.

That said fellow anons I'm going to get dinner with my wife. I'll return later if the read is still up.

>>30861497
Autistic customers.
Seriously.

>>30861497

Cause they're good at their business and have been for nearly 40 years. Not that you could ever comprehend what they do though. They survived Magic: The Gathering, that's fact enough.

>>30861387
do you not understand how a business works (hint: the goal is to make money). why give away something for free when you can nickel and dime it?

>>30861538
toss on a strong IP as well

>>30861538
Question for when you return:
How do you spot knockoffs from a distance, and do GW stores have a chemical test kit on hand for determining if a model is their plastic?

>>30861607
See >>30859230

>>30861554
Could you be any madder?

>>30860666
They're almost definitely real, the issue is unless you're in senior management, distribution or have the ear of someone who is you've got as much information as anyone else.

>>30861618
Density and proper parts, gotcha.

>>30861633

You're asking a pretty inane question. How does any business stay in business? By being a good business, obviously. They don't have anything else like government subsidies going for them.

>>30861703
You're being pretty autistic about it.

>>30861731

No, I'm being pretty concise about it. 40 years, survived MTG, no subsidies, you probably don't understand business beyond crying about why prices are so high.

>>30861782
Sure, I'm the one crying here.
GWIDF pls go.

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>>30861799
Not everyone who posts positively about gw works for gw you fucking dipshit. If GW had the seemingly 100% hate rating like it seems to on here, they wouldn't be in fucking business. So GTFO. Theres one of you gw pls go faggot autists in every thread. So please, do me a favor, stop shitposting, and go get shanked.

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>>30861858
>they wouldn't be in business
They have you for that, apparently.

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>>30861918
You must be one of those 13 year old shoulda been abortions in a CoD lobby saying umadbro like a retarded machinegun.
>tl;dr Nobody says you mad bro anymore, dipshit.

>>30861983
Your impotent rage only makes my dick harder.
You are, in fact, mad, bro.

>>30861633
>>30861731
>>30861799
>>30861918
>>30862006

Ok, stop, please. God.

>>30862108
No way, I'm hoping I can get him to have a stroke.

>>30862142

There's actually two of us.

>>30862172
Two strokes are fine too.

>>30862189
Why do I have the feeling this faggot actually is Cruddace?

>>30862222
Because you're stupid?

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>>30859033
Hi Ex-GW, hopefully this thread will still be up by the time you return. My club is based out of a garage behind the hobby shop that sells GW models in my town. So the onus for recruitment and retention is really on the club in our case. What advice can you give for attracting and retaining players? Thanks

(Also, why are Centaurs like $80 CAD?)

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>>30862235
>>30862189
>>30862142
>>30862006
>>30861918
>>30861799
>>30861731
>>30861675
>>30861633
>trying this hard to troll
Holy fuck this guy may in fact be 4chan personified

/b plz go back to your piss storm.

>>30862373
>implying I have to try

>>30859033

What's your BMI?

>>30862351

Why is small craved blok of resin that would be cheap essentially out of this world priced?

Profit margins son.

>>30861239
As a colorado person

Its not even legal to smoke in the store. The weed laws here are pretty strict about WHERE you can smoke. Its why the whole 'pot tourism' industry is heavily revolving around edibles, which bring their own sack of problems...

>>30862477
In all fairness, their sculpts are bloody amazing, and their casting is consistent.
Consistent casting is a bitch to do.

>>30862505

Oh yeah I'm not saying the quality of sculpt is bad at all. Quality control in my experience on their part is great.

Just just maximizing profit from plastic or in this case resin crack is a priority.

Then again this is a luxury good so it kinda makes sense.

>>30862557
Yea, it does make sense.
As much as I dog on them, their stuff blows the competition out of the water, I ain't even gonna lie about that.
Also, they're like the only company that makes good looking rat-men, so...

>>30862505
A Grenadier Centaur is 44gbp while a Mars Pattern LR is twice the size and is 43gbp. :-/

Inb4 different sculpt- The Centaur uses the same chassis as the Russ, it's just been caled down.

>>30859885
>The training on how to do so was hillarious though.

Tell me more.

>>30859909
Assuming Kirby is nr.1, who is the other "number 2 or 3"?

>>30860618
>It is a tax break. You destroy the model the models and claim is a destroyed property to get the tax break.
Working as intended.

>>30862662
>scaled down
Well there you go.
Difficulty of cast increases as size decreases.

>>30862617

Yeah I'm not gonna lie. I really don't mind the price as long as the quality is good and the sculpt is good as well. Be it GW or FW.

One can argue that the prices are to high but what do they expect? It's a hobby that you don't "need." It's a luxury good and they can kinda charge whatever the fuck they want.

Plus people need to know that if buying mini's is as much a hassle as the GW detractors describe and they have to sell an arm and a leg to play I really don't think they should be in the hobby. I think gaining a better job or working longer hours to get their debts covered then they can worry about their disposable income.

>>30862685
Therefore Titans should cost 5 bucks and bikes should be around a few thousand.

Just ignore the shitposters guys.

>>30859033
What are some of the cooler themed armies people have brought in?

What was the policy on people coming in for say 2000-25000 pointts games, was it frowned on for taking up too much time & space?

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>>30862490
CO resident here. You'd be amazed how many stoners ignore the smoking laws. They just light up wherever. I had one faggot doing it in a movie theater, said "hey man fuck off it's legal now!"
Called the cops on him for shitting up a theater with his retarded ass, and his shit weed.

>>30862866
Yeah man, I know. I'm living in boulder right now

Fuckin people man, they'll light up ANYWHERE

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>>30862989
Fucking dickwads. Boulder too man. Im sorry. Where do you play/what?

How often did you take inventory? Did people ever steal from your store, and did you care?

>>30862821

I am back, I'll start answering questions backwards.

In my shop I was totally OK with larger games being played. It looks good to have people in and having fun. Coolest armies I've seen include a beautifully themed Wizard of Oz Chaos Army. As sill as it sounds it was really well done because he built it conceptually around the movie.

>>30863174
Just sorta came back into 40k. I've got a small army of sisters (and some older nids/SM stuff i'm gonna work on selling)

I'm kinda hunting for places to play in boulder honestly.

>>30863193

Inventory was done between once every 3 to once every 6 months including spot inventory checks I'd do myself. I had one kid try to steal from my store, I caught him and called his parents. He never showed back up.

>>30863255
Cool. Is shoplifting common? Like, do you do inventory checks and notice stuff is missing sometimes more often than not? Do you know if any stores have ever serious problem with shoplifting, or do they discuss such things between each other?

>>30862351

Hey man, Clubs are a huge recruitment tool. I wouldn't necessarily say the onus is on you but you can be a really positive factor if you're interested.

As to the "how" of recruitment it is farily simple, you want to work on an "intro" activity. At GWs there are store starter sets (Isle of Blood, Dark Vengeance, and Escape for Goblin Town) and when a new person comes in they are run through an intro game.

A intro game is run on the 4Fs, fast, fun furious, fours.

Fast - 5 - 10 minutes, you don't want to bog them down.

Fun - This one is obvious, tell a story, use colorful language, make it something you'd like to do.

Furious - Have models die on the first turn.

Fours - The rules don't matter. Keep it simple, have them roll 4s to hit and wound, maybe remove armor saves, etc.

You are sampling the hobby, not trying to teach them everything. This is a snap shot in to the hobby to see if it is something they'd like to do. Additionally if you feel comfortable you could run them through a paint demo where you teach them to do a simple drybrush.

I hope this helps, if you have anymore questions ask away.

>>30862449

I'm not a fat fat fatty but I'm certainly not in High School Football shape anymore.

>>30862663

The training was a video of a guy (trainer) bitching about the new GK book (this was when Paladin Spam was all the rage). The employee (other trainer) asked him "have you actually read the book instead of just reading the internet complaints?" (super stilted bad acting included). The grump reply's "well no, I don't need to do that, dakka dakka told me everything I need to know".

Flash Forward to the grump having read the book and being magically cured of his negativity. I actually giggled during the training session.

Kirby is number 1 yes. Allan Merret is way up there, fellow named Bert Smith is up there as well.

>>30863379

Some stores have bigger issues than others. Not sure if there is a commonality so much as it depends on if you just get that kinda guy. In my shop I was pretty much always alert to possible loss issues. If I suspected loss I'd run spot inventory checks to confirm my suspicions. Alot of the loss prevention comes down to how diligent a guy is. I've spent most of my work in retail so I'm always looking for someone trying to grift something.

>>30863506
Hey man I appreciate you answering these questions.

Did you ever run into Chris Cambell from Portola Plaza store in SoCal?

>>30863697

Time or two in passing. Chris is a great guy, runs a great store.

>>30863718
Yeah from everything I read online about GW stores it makes me feel really lucky that Chris' store is the closest to me.

>>30863738

He always did a fucking stellar job with Armies on Parade too.

>>30863759
He's said that supposidly Tim Lyson (if I spelled that right and got the right name) is supposed to be coming this year along with his own board for display (but not entry)

>>30863794

Tim is a fantastic painter if a bit of a douche. Not sure why there is a huge press for AoP this year since there is no Games Day.

>>30863817
Don't know. But I've heard about his critiquing process

>Hobbyist showing model not worth his time
Did you do this? This is pretty cool! Hey guys did you see this? This is pretty cool!

>Hobbyist showing a model with promise
*Criticism intensifies*

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>>30860959
does gw still use this? aka for new eployees/managers? did you have to sit through this video?

No i never was employed by gw but i have friends that were. (they no longer work for gw and that's how i got the video tape.)

>>30863396
Hey, thanks for getting back so quick.

Any tips on being more visible in the community, as well as pulling in those guys who tend to play almost exclusively amongst their 2-3 person groups?

>>30863865

No if it isn't worth his time he will tell you he likes the sculpt.

>Man I love this sculpt, it is one of my favorites.

He rarely deigns to teach or actually help.

>>30863872
It has been FOREVER since we had the old tapes. It's all in person training these days.

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>>30860959

what size is your shirt?

do you have to give it back or can i buy it from you?

is the plastic thunderhawk set real?

>>30863911

Social Media is huge. A Facebook presence and a YouTube presence is highly suggested. Doing battle reports and the like as well as having Facebook cross promotion really helps boost your visibility. I'd even consider tossing 5 bucks at an add or two when you first get started.

Also having a presence at local or regional conventions is a big plus. I'd consider taking a "demo" setup to cons and running into games (or Kill Teams are always fun).

As a final aside, don't hesitate to ask guys if they know anyone who'd be interested. You'd be surprised by how many people know a guy who "might like it".

>>30863932

Shirt is a large, I get to keep it. I can't see as to why I shouldn't sell it to you.

>>30863965
I've never seen it or heard anything credible internally. Take that with a grain of salt though, I'm only speaking from what I know.

Will the blood ravens ever get any love on the board?

>>30864012

Very doubtful, they're largely viewed as a joke internally. I must admit even I was bad about poking fun at guys with Blood Raven armies.

>>30864046
w....w...whats wrong with them?

>>30864001

can you get me a 1X or 2X

a large is skin tight on me. i normaly ware a 1X, but for shirts that get tucked in i go for 2X because they tend to be longer so i dont get asscrack showing.

>>30863979
Alright, thanks for the advice man. Good luck on the upcoming job hunt.

>>30864063

It is (and please forgive me how shitty this sounds, I hate disparaging people's hobby) "babby's first" after he wanders in and goes "Oh this is like Dawn of War!".

It is a shitty mentality that somehow a hobbyist is lesser because he found out about the hobby via Video Game (even if that was part of the point of making a video game). Nerds are bad about being purists sometimes (I use the term Nerd inclusively).

That said, please - enjoy your Blood Ravens and have fun with your hobby. Don't let assholes (like me) ruin your fun.

>>30864122

Unfortunately I likely will not, I've only got a week (roughly) left and I won't be able to order any new shirts.

>>30864129
Sure thing, if you have any other questions let me know. And thank you for the well wishes.

>>30864138
nigga its all good, im actually running less ravens and more Legion of The Damned now


they released a good codex holy shit

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>>30864063

they are the redguards of all space marines... BEHOLD!!! THE BLOOD ANGELS HAVE GIVING US THIER MOST HOLY RELIC AS A GIFT!!! IT IS NOW OURS!!!


To the EX GW guy... why dose LOTR get no love? All 8 people i got in my 40k group started with LOTR because we could get armies for like $150. then we branched out to blood bowl and 40k.

LOTR is soposed to be the goddamn gate way drug into the crack that is 40k.

but i cant get anyone to buy a box of 12 plastic army men for $28. when the boxs were $25 for 24 warriors is was easy to get recruits.

>>30864159

I've heard good things about the data slate. I'm pretty jazzed about some Crimson Slaughter myself.

>>30864187
LoTR has been mishandled from day 1. They never got staff behind it and supporting it properly. Staff are often resentful of the system because to them it feels like dead weight on the wall. Additionally, as you've pointed out, LoTR has fallen victim to cut the box contents, boos the price thus making it even less attractive. For what it is wroth I am a HUGE War of the Ring Fan.

>>30864138
what if i runa blood ravens army and use bits of other armies for my weapons. going for the full relic thieves ravens

>>30864328

That sounds pretty cool to me. I'm not super familiar with the Ravens as a whole, I never fully played through the DoW campaigns.

>>30864238
I know that feel. I have an entire Easterling army collecting dust because nobody plays.

>>30864238

Is the War of the Ring still a valid book? Is it like a seperate sub game of LOTR? Found the book for $5 at my stores discount rack and figured its at least worth it for the artwork and fun shit.

or did the new hobbit book kill it?

Also, i noticed in the new hobbit book that mounts like horses and wargs have Movement 10. but in my "fallen realms" book wargs have Movement 12. da fug?

also. why the fuck are dwarves so OP?

Will GW hire a girl who into wargaming or they will prefer a man even with less knowings?
Tell the truth, no need to be politically correct.

>>30864436

War of the Ring is, in theory, still a full functioning game on its own. It has its own rules, fully contained in the main rulebook (the only book you need to play WoTR).

The Hobbit represents a "2nd Edition" of sorts for LoTR so it brings many rules adjustments and the like. Effectively it would be similar to having some old 4th stuff and trying to find its compatibility with 6th.

Dwarfs are OP because defense is stupid in LoTR. High fight so win they most ties and even if they lose you often need 6/4s to kill one of them. Meanwhile all of them have axes so they get the +1 bonus to wound you when they win fights.

>>30864483

Sex plays no real part in the hiring process that I have ever seen. We have less female managers than male but I think men will be more attracted to apply for a company like GW.

This wasn't always true but it has been a long time since the terror reign of Dave Kingston.

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>>30864238
I know that gw atm alteast upper management doesn't give a rat's ass about veterans (more than 1 year)

Do they put any pressure on staff to have them pressure players into rebuilding their armies with more updated models?

AKA i have been playing since rt/2nd edition. stopped for some time during 3rd edition and came back recently. i still have craptons of 40k and fantasy models that date back to RT days. Are there some stores i'll get a hasstle for using ancient RT chaos dreads (such in the eralire picture with the GW tape)?

I don't know if you remeber armorcast. before forgeworld came about. they had a limited agreement i belive and i still have my shadowsword from back then. i know GW had a falling out with Armorcast. Are armor cast models still banned in GW stores? (i really don't feel like spending 200 usd to give an imperial knight the D at range. (see pic)

(and yes i will be repainting the shit out of it now that i am much better at painting. fucker is like over 12 years old atleast.)

>>30864138
Ha. I've been in the hobby since second edition (I'm 32) and I built up 1500 points of Blood Ravens about two years ago. I'm probably going to be on the lookout now to see if anyone is internally laughing at me. Though I guess I've been going to the FLGS store long enough for the staffers there to know I'm a grizzled vet. Still, if I bring my Blood Ravens to cons or other FLGSs...

It's not like I'm going to care very much, but it's one of those things where you get clued in to something, and now you see it everywhere.

>>30864483
I think >>30864511 comment on job attractiveness towards certain genders is probably correct but do you think that most warhammer players would treat a woman in a hobbystore the same as a man? I highly doubt the neckbeards would treat her with respect.


>>30864488
Thats why I like playing easterlings. everything in the army has heavy armor.

>>30864522

There is no official training or stance on pressuring veteran customers to rebuild armies with more current models. From a sales stand point it benefits an operator to at least try but a smart operator won't bark up that tree more than once depending on how the conversation goes. I will warn you some of the guys who run stores know so little about old product they'll accuse you of using 3rd party stuff if you aren't careful.

I do remember AC (I've been in the hobby for quite a while, since mid 3rd). It was never banned in stores (at least not during my career) I've let people use plenty of old AC stuff.

>>30864593
I've seen a guy bring in a trio of AC reavers. Those things are awesome.

>>30864573

Yeah, I guess it is just a perception thing at the end of the day.

>>30864588
Of my female peers I know all have had an issue or two with a few socially inept autists making shitty comments regarding their sex and their ability to due their job. The same applies to some of my African American peers. However these are very niched, minority occurrences that are usually handled and settled.

>>30864593
>I will warn you some of the guys who run stores know so little about old product they'll accuse you of using 3rd party stuff if you aren't careful.

>I do remember AC (I've been in the hobby for quite a while, since mid 3rd). It was never banned in stores (at least not during my career) I've let people use plenty of old AC stuff.

Well both good and bad to hear.

I still have old catalogs with the models in em so i can pull them out if problem comes up. (also smartphone so i could actually google the images up). I know here in houston the manage of the store near me is bretty bro tier bad ass and he has recognized alot of my old models i've been bringing (next i'll be bringing in my old bikes.) but

by my understanding during 3rd edition Armorcast stuff got banned due to the dispute between GW and AC. For a while they would allow me to bring in my reaver titan and shadowsord . but about a year into 3rd i was told they couldn't allow it (and my friend was manager at the time he wanted to but i and he would not risk his job over it incase a regional manager came in during a big battle event) Gald to see i can finally field Helga again. (and i will right after i repaint her in WWII german Western front 1942 colors.

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>>30864674
*eastern front i mean (friend is making talarans so we might end up having afrika core wars.

BTW another question. What is gw's stance on imagery on the tanks/aircraft/figures.

I know i can't have naked women painted on it (family store) i did get some warning from my friend who was a manager at the time not to paint swastikas on my tanks or bombers/fighters (back then i was looking at making my IG WWII painted/converted. and i chose germans while a friend chose allies (one russians and other chose brit/americans)

Would i be skating some kind of edge if i painted swastikas now on em? (to try get them closer to the historical style paint jobs (i do have iron crosses on the stuff now)

>>30864735

Swastikas would be frowned up heavily. Probably asked to leave. I understand it is a historical theme but it still carries a heavy weight and mom wouldn't understand if she saw it on a tank in the store.

>>30864735
Just put a Hitler moustache on a tank commander, it's subtle, but will get the job done.

Also, die Nazi scum.

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>>30864735

dont be that guy man... if you want to play WW2 games then play WW2 games.

if you want to have grey armored DKK whatever.

but dont paint fucking nazi shit on your warhammer 40k tanks. paint them on your flames of war / bolt action Tigers or Panzer IV's sure. but the imperial guard is not nazis.

same goes for the hammer and sickel or american star.

>>30864811
pfff. Put a stache on yarick in his personal baneblade.

>>30864826
A Yarrick is fine too

>>30864825
ok calm down a bit there sparky.

no i'm not trying to make 40k into historical type game by any means. and no i won't be making an KKK army ect. (it's not about promoting that ideology at all) (i've never had a chance to play flames of war unfortunately. the historical scene here in houston is not quite as robust as 40k/fantasy is here).

chillax tho i just wanted to add that final touch. i guess i can't due to people like you demanding politicall correctness (muh 6 bazillion).

>>30864877
If you really want to put one on then jazz it up. Look up old swastika designs and make it unnazi. Reverse the orientation, and add flare and detail to it.

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Out of curiosity, how do you justify the slaaneshi daemons if your trying to make the store family friendly? I know if europe, they dont really associate nudity with sexuality, but its quite different in NA.

It always seemed to me like it was a double standard when someone can bring in a 6 bare breasted Keeper of secrets, when you cant bring in one nude female

>>30864877

Speaking of KKK armies...

I once saw an army at an area FLGS (for like 2 seconds) that had black Catachans with afros as its foot troops. The officers were redemptions with white robes riding on chimeras modeled to look like cotton balers. His HQ model was on fire truck looking chimera holding a water hose

I was amazed at the racism.

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>>30864826
>>30864870

wouldn't be hard to add to this one i already have

>>30864921

Slaanesh stuff is mostly swept under the carpet when it comes to Mom and Dad. You never bring it up (hell Chaos is touchy as a whole what with the whole demons bit).

>>30860805

Yeah but at this point, it almost scares me what we'll get.

>>30864927
I think you may need to thin your paints a bit there.

>>30864954
>hell Chaos is touchy as a whole what with the whole demons bit

That is something i wanted to ask. does it seem like in the bible belt that gw produtcs are less popular due to higher concentration of christians. How often if ever do you see any resistance about the game when customer or parents find out about chaos armies after they get invovled or their kids get invovled?

ever have a parent demand refunds on old stuff (months old) because they din't know their child was getting into a demonic game ?

>>30864976
painted long long ago. i don't think i can strip it due to being sealed :(

>>30865003
Ah. Babby's first paintjob. Try a bit of brake cleaner. That might work.

>>30864877
Not that anon. And while I wouldn't bring it up with you in person, I'd roll my eyes internally and you'd be a low priority opponent in my book. I have a large meta where I can afford to be picky about my opponents. I personally don't like direct real life groups or historical armies in my 40k. An army inspired by the Russians or the Aztecs? awesome. Putting a swastika or the christian cross on your shoulder pads breaks the 4th wall for me though

>>30865015
i'll try it on another model painted same era first. i'll also have to find a way to try cleanly pop him off the base (i do like the dead cut in half grot with heads arround his feet.

I'll need to find another to put on my baneblade tho.

>>30865044
Lol. You don't have a million leftover bases?

>>30865003

There are huge gaming populations all across the Southeastern US. I routinely travel to tournaments in Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, and Texas so I don't think the bible belt is inhibiting the hobby.

I've only had one bad case of demons causing a screeching halt. Mom saw a box of Plaguebearers and was like "nope.jpg" and the family just left. Never had any parents demand refunds or anything of that nature.

>>30865069
Lol. I've seen the exact opposite where a 2-4 year old runs up to a box of daemonettes and says "Mommy I want this one!"

They recently shut down the iconic Auburn store here in Washington. Damn shame. That new guy was a good guy. He had big shoes to fill, however, as Tommy was a legend. I didn't even know until I needed to buy a couple of models and was told the store had closed. Oh well.

>>30865129

Tommy Rice was a grade A guy. Games Workshop has so few guys like Tommy left these days. We used to be Space Marines but those days are long gone.

>>30865038
>An army inspired by the Russians or the Aztecs? awesome.

This is the one thing i just will never understand. I guess i can look at imagery and not take it in only one view. i see a swastika i see a positive hindu symbol that natzis used. others just see it as a evil symbol instead. but it's perfectly fine to paint WWII US or Russian. Well i think we should stop this line of discussion. it won't be very productive since some views on some people will never change AND it's going to derail the living fuck out of this thread. maybe a new thread could be opened instead. (also i'd expect such a thread would be overrun by /pol/

>>30865065
actually no i don't. if i do they are probably in a bitz bag that hasn't surfaced yet in my Bitz closet.

>>30865069
>Mom saw a box of Plaguebearers and was like "nope.jpg"

I would of loved to see the reaction 1st hand. and i wonder what the reaction would of been with deamonetts on steeds.

>>30865143
It was a shame he had to leave the store because of upward mobility issues. I still see him from time to time as we live in the same city. Dude is scary Hulk huge now. He could seriously wear that massive pace Marine he had out front.

I will remember how I one that massive back of dice at the store's anniversary party. That bag has served me well.

Except for those veil deep strike mishaps last week. That was awful.

My friends I am going to bed. I may try another one of these in a few days so if I didn't get to your question I'll try again soon.

As always, thank you for letting me spend my evening with you. Enjoy your hobby!

>>30865143
If you were given 100% free reign to do what you like with a gw store what would you do and how would you run it?

>>30865243
thanks for stopping by

>>30865243
Thanks again.

>>30865243

Thank you very much.

I think I might go spend some money in Puyallup tomorrow. Factoria is just too far away. ;)

>>30859552
You're acting like this is fucking watergate, but you've got the same inane, boring experiences as anyone else in retail/customer facing jobs. Get over yourself man.

>>30865734
Which you say 5 hours later and after he leaves.
So brave

>>30865734
1/10 terrible troll bait. apply yourself. you did get 1 moderate reply tho hence the 1/10

>>30865734
But anyway, skim over the Chapterhouse deposition to see how crazy GW legal is.

When asked if there were specific examples of American consumers confusing Chapterhouse with GW, they presented .uk emails of people reporting IP infringment

was codex knights ever scanned?

>>30859033

hey guise, I have a general 40k rules question.

My friend has a defiler and according to him, if he fires the battle cannon then the rest of the weapons can only be snapshot. When I looked it up in our Dark Vengeance rulebook it made no mention of it, but when we looked online it seemed like maybe this was an older rule or something. Can someone give me some guidance on this?

Thanks

>>30866136
Battle Cannon is Ordnance. Means shooting it makes everything else snap shot


and /tg/ thanks you for not making a new thread

>>30859637
Yes but this thread is about GW and theu make the worst garbage of a game.. So what's your point?

>>30863223
>Coolest armies I've seen include a beautifully themed Wizard of Oz Chaos Army. As sill as it sounds it was really well done because he built it conceptually around the movie.

That sounds great.

I'm the dude who worked at Disneyworld, currently making a Disney themed chaos army. The hardest part is finding a balance between looking too camp and gimmicky, and being to subtle or vague

>>30862866
>legalising the vices and bad habits of stupid people for no good reason
You had it coming.

>>30862662
>same chassis
>scaled down
So a completely different sculpt and mould then.

>>30859459

>A kid pissed in my floor once. That sucked ass.

I had that happen to me twice while I was working in a small town museum. It was a kid once and the second time it was some stoner hipster looking asshole. The scumbag went to the top floor, placed his underware on the floor, carefully layed a turd over them and covered the turd with his socks and left.

>>30859635
>How is that any different from what other higher up execs would have done? I still can't see the problem with Alan Merret here.

It's immoral, unethical, and more importantly it's 'Fraud'.

"Fraud is a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain."

He lied to a customer service rep AND a customer in what sounds like an attempt to avoid taking financial responsibility for a known defective product. Does that help you understand the problem you complete fuck-wit?

Have you ever had to lay to your customer? Dunno, anything like "Wow, tau is so cool, buy all that stuff and everyone gona love you!"

Is thread still alive?

>>30870051
> Have you ever had to lay
> lie
fixing intesifies

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>>30864825
>dont paint fucking nazi shit on your warhammer 40k tanks. paint them on your flames of war / bolt action Tigers or Panzer IV's sure. but the imperial guard is not nazis.
>same goes for the hammer and sickel or american star.

Spoken like a true 'newb'. GW used to use Nazis as an inspiration for a lot of the old Ork stuff back in the days of Rogue Trader. And as for your 'ZOMG - don't mix genres!' bullshit - sorry if you weak brains can't handle it, but either man up or shut up there buttercup.

Pic related. It's doubtless better than anything you've painted. Odds are good that the painter is more fun to game with than you as well.

>>30868910

>Hurr durr what is rapid prototyping?

>>30870181
>>30864825

>Using swastikas and commie shit
>Not marking you Krieg troops with obscure nazi symbols and Axis ally shit like the Iron Trefoil

Top pleb.

>>30870181
there is nothing wrong with being inspired by the real world but straight up swastikas and iron crosses is so fucking lazy.

that reminds of my swedish empire army that i did when i was 13 years old.

>>30870181

>implying it is not the weak minded that rely on mixing genres.

>>30864921
This is what puzzles me. GW does seem to make most of it's money from starry eye kids wanting their own army of Master Chiefs and MW grunts. The parents pay for that shit to keep them off the streets and away from any harmful influence. Now, I love the Warhammer lore, but it flat out isn't kid friendly, it's savage as fuck, hence all the awkward corner cutting to try and keep the kids invested. Who else remembers the Emperor's Children Defiler incident and the Fimir?

>>30870545
But that's one way of keeping the weird teenagers, cuz so "grimdark and real"

>>30866117
someone put out an ebook copy. i'm waiting on crimson slaughter

>>30862477
>Oh how I crave the resin

>>30859033
Why are you losing your job?

>>30863223
What did it consist of?

>>30864522
You could probably sell that armorcast model and afford two plastic shadowswords.

>>30870545
>Who else remembers the Emperor's Children Defiler incident and the Fimir?
Please explain.

>>30865038
Have you heard of Black Templars? What the fuck do you think that thing on their shoulder is?

>>30864927

"It's pronounced 'Big-boo-TAY'"

>>30872469
AFAIK Fimir procreated by raping female prisoners.

>>30874340
They did. Although there were a ver, very few female Fimir. But they were all powerful Bog Witches and the leaders and shaman of their tribes if i remember correctly. So...a .. rape based Matriarchy. You don't hear that too often.

>>30868782
> prohibiting vices and bad habits that don't actively harm you

no u

I'm not a stoner, and think most of them are dumb. But the cost of stopping dumb people from doing a dumb, mostly harmless thing is less than the cost of enforcement, both monetarily and in intangibles.

>>30872491
The Teutonic Cross used by the goddamn Knights Templar? Which is, believe it or not, different from the Iron Cross used by Kaiser Wilhelm.

The whole mixing genres thing rustles my jimmies. You want a ww2 Nazi/Russian/Amerifat army? go buy and play bolt action, its awesome.

What they really want is a umique army but without putting in any thought or effort. Did any germans tanks actually have a swastika on? I've never seen any. There's no justification for a nazi army in space - sci fi german master race, awesome. Sci fi droptroopers with a band of brothers paratrooper feel? awesome. Hur dur I painted a swastika lol seig heil lol gonna kill me some space jews har har? lazy as fuck, 0/10.

amd dont get me started on the weapons and heads. They look fucking retarded. Be a real man and try a decent gaming system. tldr 40k is for niggers and 40k historical armies are for autists.

>>30865038

What if you used any of the thousands of non-Nazi "swastikas" in an army themed around that particular ones people/religion?

Doesn't need to be the 5x5 one.

>>30868782
>for no good reason
But there is a good reason, and that reason is "because they want to." As long as they aren't doing it in public where it can affect other people, or aren't doing something like endangering their children or spouse or family by doing it in private, they have every right to do and act as they please even if it brings about their destruction.