You and the remnants of Lu Bu's army march for hours eastward at a fast pace. Most of the soldiers are tired and exhausted, some even are left behind in the road while others abandon the army. Because of the pace at which the army has to move and the lack of time to chase after deserting soldiers, you have no choice to press on.

Lu Bu is sullen, and staying close to a crying Diao Chan. You can see near the front of the army Lu Lingqi who is also tired and her armor tattered with some red. By the looks of it, she is not injured and the blood is from enemy soldiers. You can tell she is tired, but she presses on without a word of complaint.

You soon reach a pass. After going through, you can rest at the next town without worry of enemy pursuit. As Lu Bu's army makes through the pass...

“Halt!”

Archers stationed notch their bows and take aims. Troops come out to meet your entourage. Lu Bu grits his teeth and grips his halberd while motioning for Diao Chan to move to the back. Lingqi readies her own spear as well. It seems another hard fight is on hand.

“Stop! Stop! Lower your weapons!”

Before another battle breaks out, one man comes out of the pass. The soldiers obey him and they lower their weapons.

“General Lu Bu! We are no enemies of your group! Please forgive my men,” he says bowing as he comes in front of the army.

“I have heard that Chang An has fallen and the other armies scattered. There is much to discuss, I beg of you to come with me and allow your men to rest here.”

Lu Bu is obviously distrustful. He looks around with a worried look. What do you say?

>Advise Lu Bu to heed the man
>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass
>Tell Lu Bu not to be trustful and to attack now while the other soldiers have lowered their guard

>>32811583
>inb4 "Why didn't you follow my hints?"

>>32811600
>>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass

Let's be careful here.

>>32811600
>>Tell Lu Bu not to be trustful and to attack now while the other soldiers have lowered their guard

We know Lu Bu sempai is a tactical genius.

>>32811600
>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass

Only reasonable response

>>32811627
This.

>>32811600
>>Tell Lu Bu not to be trustful and to attack now while the other soldiers have lowered their guard

Its probably just another plot to betray us like chang an.

>>32811600
>>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass

>>32811600
>>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass
Let's not rush into things now.

>>32811600
>>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass

>>32811600
>>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass

>>Other
Offer to meet with the opposing officer yourself.

>>32811600
>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass

We really need to focus on cranking up our Leadership and Intelligence.

Since our War is already at 84, it'll be harder to raise and we'll get a lot more value from the other 2 stats.

>>32811755

Not Int or lead.

We need pol and cha to get things done.

>>32811784
No-one gets anywhere with just one stat.

Plenty of clever people died when someone stronger than them crushed their brains in. Three Kingdoms China demands universal competence, and even then... Man ascribes, heaven provides.

>>32811784

Leadership allows us to maintain our army's fighting strength and keep is going against tough odds.

Intelligence gives us additional hints and makes it easier to strategize and pull off strategies. Those are the two most valuable traits, other than WAR, to a fighting general.

Charisma is still valuable, but Pol is probably the least valuable out of the bunch.

>>32811844
Since we are a fighting general, I agree. I do think we need to hire a proper adviser for no warfare related affairs though. Possibly train up our brother, if we can.

Lets just trust them.

>>32811755
Really, we just need intelligence. The lack of information we were working under last thread would apparently have been alleviated if we had higher intelligence.

Also, use Lu Bu as a sounding board for ideas. If he likes a plan, DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

>>32811870

Wasn't here for the last thread.

Was really surprised you lot actually voted to charge an entrenched enemy, uphill, outnumbered 2 to 1.

That lu bu is not smart should have been obvious from awhile ago.

>>32811865
>>32811870

We need to hire more people in general, I think.

We'll be raising our intelligence, but we aren't going to beat Jia Xu and his 97 ROTK 11 intelligence in a battle of wits.

I like the idea of training our brother as an adviser though.

>>32811870
On the other hand, it doesn't matter how good your plans are if you don't have the power to put them into action.

One man can't hold a fortress.

Unless his opponent is Sima Yi

>>32811894
It goes beyond not smart. Lu Bu is so bad at commanding an army he shouldn't be given responsibility over anything other than himself. His advice led to a complete rout.

>>32811894

You forgot that our army was also exhausted.

But you live and learn, and we probably learned our lessons.

>>32811914

Our WAR is 84 with crappy equipment. We will probably pick up WAR through dueling enemy officers, we just need to hit the books in our free time.

>>32811933
And yet.

You guys voted to follow his advice.

Alright, so I went to sleep last thread filling confident as the majority for the vote at the time was for staying back in the capital. I wake up the next day to find everything ruined, so tonight I swear I will stay awake the entire thread and fight for my all to prevent us from doing more stupid crap.

>>32811948
Yes, because we didn't realize he had the tactical acumen of a particularly nasty pile of shit. It was demonstrated quite clearly for us, however. Any advice given by him will be completely ignored from now on.

>>32811894
Eh, I still stand by my decision to attack to a certain extent

>>32811941
A failure from time to time builds character. Look at Liu Bei! The man couldn't help but fail in everything from generalship to child-rearing and he... uh, died after getting everyone he loved killed except Zhuge Liang and left his kingdom in the hands of a conniving pack of eunuchs and a guy whose name became synonymous with 'retardation'. (although personally I think Liu Shan is a little smarter and more reasonable than people give him credit for - boy knew when to fold 'em)

So, bad example.

>>32811948

Not all of us voted for it, some of us actually pointed out that it was a stupid idea.

However, there's no use dwelling on it.

>>32811894
Lu Bu believed that their morale was hurt badly enough that a decisive charge with our forces would cause them to break and flee. Anons believed he knew what what he was talking about, since he's the greatest warrior in china.

We know better now.

>>32811987

Cao Cao might have been a better example.

>>32812015
He's a fabulous warrior.

He is not a very good general. You have to remember that Fengxian is a bold, impetuous young man who assumes that, because he's really good at killing guys, everyone fears him and respects him. His biggest weakness is his pride, which mostly manifests in his dismissal of and underestimation of his enemies.

>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass
"Tell your men to retreat to the other side of the pass, Sir!" you shout, moving your horse forward. "Name yourself! We will not parley until then!"

The leader of the pass smiles.

“You must be General Zhu Xing. Your cautiousness is well-advised, but if I had wanted your heads, I would have laid an ambush here and kept this pass shut tight. No doubt your tired troops would not be able to break through. However, I understand your demand and I shall follow them.”

The man motions for the troops to do as the demand was given. You order a soldier to follow through and see that all the soldiers have moved to the other side of the pass as instructed, and that no traps are laid. When he returns and confirms all is in good order, you look back at the leader of the group.

“I am Chen Gong, styled Gongtai. Please, follow me in.”

Your soldiers enter the pass and take the time to rest. You and Lu Bu follow Chen Gong to a small room inside the pass and seat yourselves at a table. Chen Gong has wine and food brought over.

“Let me get to the point Sirs. You are in a perilous situation, and my advice is to head towards Xu Chang. Most of the lords in the Central Plains and north are mistrustful and would likely not tolerate your force. And I believe General Zhu Xing is from Xu Chang, so we will have an easier time recuperating there. The army should rest there for half a year, you should gather more men to your side, and then you may plan your next move there.”

Lu Bu rubs his chin.

“I cannot find much fault in the plan. And I do not think we have very much options here. What do you say, Zhu Xing?”

>Accept is the best course of action
>Object, and state your army should move to take refuse with another warlord instead

>>32811933
>>32812015

At least we have influence over Lu Bu and can dissuade him from some of his stupider decisions.

He was pretty receptive to the feint attack last time and I'm sure we can continue to work him since we know how to flatter him.

>>32811969
>Any advice given by him will be completely ignored from now on.
Let's not deal in absolutes. Defeat in that battle was just as much our fault as it was Lu Bu's, so to completely ignore every bit of advice of his seems like an ignorant way to act, especially toward someone our character looks to as a faithful friend

>>32811969
You see, thats the thing.

Alot of the players appear to at least be passingly familiar with ROTK or DW. That Lu Bu is not a good general is something that most folks should know.

I just dont see the reason why we needed to try it out. In fact, at the end of that post, Zhu Xing even wondered if we should withdraw. I believe that was our Int speaking at that point.

>>32811990

Indeed though. I'm fine with this, despite how much fun a loyal and legitimate faction with the emperor's backing would have been. This'll be my last post on the issue.

>>32812051
>Accept is the best course of action

>>32812051
>>Accept is the best course of action

Xu Chang is in Yu Province right? Who's the governor there right now?

Regardless, it doesn't look like we have much of a choice. If this dude is our friend, we can at least rebuild our troops and go from there.

>>32812051
>Accept is the best course of action

Yeah, we can't do much with 2k troops

>>32812051
>Xu Chang
He is right that we cannot trust the central plains lords, but going to Xu Chang is not necessarily the best move. However, I also don't see much of an alternative, so I think we should heed his advice.

>>32812084

Xu Chang is Cao Cao's base of operations and capital.

>>32812051
>>Accept is the best course of action

Write In: Ask why Cheng Gong is helping us. His advice seems to be good one, but we would like to know why he's helping us.

>>32812125

Yes please.

>>32812118
Is it? I know he ends up there eventually, but right now?

It wouldn't make sense for Gongtai to be sending us to serve Cao Cao, considering.

>>32812125
This

>>32812125
I also vote for this

>>32812137

I...I'm not sure.

I don't even know the current date to check against.

>>32812118

I know that's where he sets up eventually, but is he the current governor? I think Liu Dai might still be the governor.

>>32812051
>>Object, and state your army should move to take refuse with another warlord instead

This leads us to siding with cao cao.
I sure hope you guys don't do that.

>>32812125
Yep, defiantly this, so used to Chen Gong being with Lu Bu that I forgot he isn't with us right now

>>32812051
>>32812125

Voting for this

>>32812051
>Object, and state your army should move to take refuse with another warlord instead

We should head for Wu instead. Cao Cao a shit.

>>32812166
Dong Zhuo died slightly ahead of schedule. We're in the very early 190s I think. 191-192 or so?

>>32812051
>Accept is the best course of action

We need to pull back and regroup. Gather what forces we have left and turn our resting camp into a war preparations area. Supplies stockpiles, training areas, workshops and forges to build war gear and various available war machines and the like. When the time comes, we must have planed out and prepped for a nationwide campaign

>>32812197

I'd follow Cao Cao.

If we can, I'd like to see what happens if china is unified while he is still alive.

>>32812169
No we don't have to side with cao cao, if it follows history then we will likely start wrecking cao cao's shit when he goes to fight Yaun Shao.

>>32812166
>>32812137
>>32812118
>>32812169
Hey guys, no offense but can we please try to not metagame this?

>>32812197
We may not be going to Cao Cao y'know.

>>32812225

Anon, we've heard news of what warlords in various parts of the country are doing.

Knowing where their base of operations should NOT be metagaming but common knowledge.

>>32812226
>cheng gong is the messenger
>not being the cao cao path

I don't think you get how this qm does things.

>>32812197
Wu hasn't formed yet, they are still with Yaun Shu and he isn't someone you want to trust unless you feel like letting Lu Bu's daughter marry someone else.

>>32812169
>>32812197

Anons, we don't have to pledge our loyalty to the warlord who rules over Xu Chang (which might not be Cao Cao depending on the year)

We are going there to recuperate and rebuild our army. We can choose whether to go independent or follow a lord from there. We need troops to get better offers from the lords anyway.

Besides Xu Chang is our character's hometown and he will be able to recruit more easily there.

>>32812218
I'm not sure it'd be possible to unify China in that era. Short of a victory at Chi Bi, which is basically impossible without metagaming or somehow preventing Guo Si's illness, I don't think Cao Wei had what it takes just in terms of resources.

>>32812197
No reason we can't become friendly with Wu later. If we can establish ourselves as an independent warlord, we might not have to serve any of the yet to be formed three kingdoms.

Though I agree that Wu is preferable to Wei if it comes down to it.

As a reminder, if you lose 30% of your fighting force in any one conflict, it is basically considered dead and you should retreat and regroup. Also, it takes about 6 times as much men to besiege a fortified position barring trickery or other environmental factors.

>>32812250

Thing is, with us around, we're likely to avoid liu bei, or if we room with him, persuade lu bu to not take over his county.

We do this and hes likely to never take up arms to be a warlord.

>>32812246
>Chen Gong is the messenger

Right. The guy who decided he'd rather be killed than serve Cao Cao. Chen Gong abandoned Cao Cao before the coalition was formed.

>>32812245
That is fair, but does our character know enough about Cao Cao to make the decision of whether it might be a good idea to serve under him?

>>32812265
Thought it was three times? "To take a city of 20,000, we'll need a force of at least 60,000 elite soldiers" and all that.

>>32812252
Sun Jian hasn't die yet I believe, so there is no Wu right now, just a force serving Yaun Shu.

>>32812291

Hes gotta be better than Dongs.

Can't get any worse than that.

Our force doesn't really have much of a choice though. We can be easily destroyed by anyone.

>>32812302
Which makes the decision by Chang An to refuse Fan Chou's defection even more suicidal in retrospect. 10:1 odds is guaranteed death. Any other option would have been better.

I think we are all missing something important here.

Mah equipment store

>>32812322
No argument there

>>32812355

We'll not speak of that name again until the moment we put his head on a pike and parade it around

>>32812357
It doesn't matter if we ask to buy stuff. QM completely ignored us last thread when we did.

>>32812322
Cao Cao is a fine fall-back option. The man's a Hero Collector. Prove yourself astoundingly competent and he'll definitely reward you.

He's just also the default option. He's two-star difficulty at best. Wouldn't it be more fun to win on five-star difficulty?

>>32812379
But he was just an NPC, anon. You can't expect him to be competent when he's on our side.

>>32812385

We already lost the 5 star difficulty.

>>32812385
>Wouldn't it be more fun to win on five-star difficulty?
Damn straight.

>>32812385
That depends on your definition of winning this quest, because things didn't exactly go completely well for Cao Cao and the kingdom of Wei

>>32812408

Nope, it's now a 6 star difficulty. No guts, no glory.

Did we lose the kettle? Please tell me we still have the kettle

>>32812426
He forms the foundation of Jin. I'd say that counts as a victory.

>>32812426
Well enough. Jin is pretty much just Wei. It didn't go well for the Caos, but I'd argue it turned out just fine for Wei.

>>32812439
WE STILL HAVE THE KETTLE

You heard it here Raian

UP THE DIFFICULTY

>>32812432

You want to do this right, we hide with Cao Cao until the emperor gets out.

Wei saves the emperor, we break him out from the control of Wei to refound a faction away from Cao Caos control.

Thats the 10 star difficulty.

>>32812458

FUCK YES! Now we can give Lu Linqi our Kettle :D

>>32812475
Why would she care about us? We're a terrible commander and have already insulted her sense of worth.

>Accept is the best course of action
You nod at Lu Bu.

"I cannot find fault with the plan either. My family in Xu Chang will be hospitable, and Xu Chang has yet to be taken by the other lords. It is a good city where we will be able to gather more men and supplies."

Lu Bu nods, but looks back at Chen Gong. He places an elbow on the table, hand on his chin.

"Tell me Gongtai. Why do you wish to help us? You could have taken our heads and received a reward."

Chen Gong bows.

"General, you are the man that killed the villain Dong Zhuo and unparalleled in might. You also have doughty warriors by your side, and have the potential to unify the land. You however lack advisers and strategists. I believe that by following you, I may find a place for myself. The other lords are petty and power hungry. While you, General, may act impulsively at times, I believe that only you act true of heart and do not hide behind a mask. I will state here and now that I wish for you to use me for your future plans, and I will use you to seek a unified land."

Lu Bu laughs. He seems satisfied and content with the answer despite the last statement which may have been offensive. In any case, the plan is set and you and Lu Bu retire for the night as Chen Gong shows both of you to the quarters.

As morning comes, Lu Bu's army moves toward Xu Chang along with Chen Gong and his entourage now in tow. It takes a few days, but soon the army is at the gates of Xu Chang. Chen Gong implores your troops to wait before he heads inside Xu Chang to speak with the governor, and after a few hours, the gates are opened up your troops enter.

>>32812250
Pretty sure they had the resources. However, what they should have done is not concentrate their forces at one point, or tie their boats together. Seriously, why would you purposefully eliminate the two advantages you have in battle.

>>32812487

Because Lu Lingqi is our waifu, didn't you read the other threads?

We abandoned accessible and attractive Cai Yan (the poet lady) for Lu Bu's daughter!

>>32812508

We left her in a burning city too.

File: xuchang.jpg (40 KB, 237x165)

40 KB JPG

>>32812495
Chen Gong explains to you and Lu Bu and he convinced the magistrate your army could conquer the city if they were not allowed in. That instead of a battle, the army could safeguard Xu Chang from other lords and destroy and bandits that are beginning to rise in these times. You can see that Chen Gong is a talented man... You and Lu Bu should likely listen to him from hereon.

The soldiers are ordered to find quarters within the city barracks and some inns, but to make no trouble for the people of Xu Chang. Most of the people

Your family is here. Perhaps you should go see them. Whatever you do, afterward, you will be recuperating here for half a year.
>Go see your family
>Go see how Lu Bu is doing
>Go see how Chen Gong is doing
>Go see how Lingqi is doing

>>32812508
And she thinks we're shit on a stick. So not our waifu so much as our unrequited crush.

>>32812518
>>Go see your family

Let's go see our little brother and sister

>>32812518
>Go see your family

Family is best

>>32812518
>>other
Pay our respects to the magistrate for allowing us in

>>32812471
>Tactical Wei infiltration

Holy shit this sounds rad. And suicidal.

>>32812518
>>Go see how Lingqi is doing

>>32812518
>Go see how Lingqi is doing
"I apologise for how I treated you in front of your father, however I did not mean to underestimate you, I merely did not wish to insult your father's decision too much"
Give her the kettle

>>32812536

This.

Before other things are done, find out who is in charge.

>>32812518
Go see Lingqi.

Arrange for our family to be introduced to Lu Bu at some point in this six month gap.

>>32812518
>go see your famury

>>32812518
>>Go see how Lingqi is doing
Waifu first.

>>32812518
>Go see your family

Now is not the time for waifuing, we'll just make a bad impression on her.

>>32812518
Visit the magistrate, then reunite with our family.

We are a pious, honorable man, and that includes filial piety.

>>32812518
Go see the fams. Get our little brother some gear and get our little sister married off to someone respectable, like Chen Gong or Lu Bu himself.

>>32812518
>Go see how Lingqi is doing

>>32812518
>Go see your family

If we can pay respects to magistrates first, that's fine too, but family is the most important thing.

>>32812518

this >>32812536

>>32812518

BUY STUFF

Seriously.

Raian, are you going to continue to make purchasing equipment cost one turn?

If so....we buy shit. Now.

If not.....we buy shit and then visit Family

>>32812495
Could we send a contingent of 500 or so troops back to the pass and fortify it to prevent the enemy from taking our back? I want them to suffer Thermopile level causalities if they try it

>>32812556
I seriously doubt that acting politely toward her and giving her a tea kettle will improve her opinion of us anon

>>32812595
>expecting us to ever be able to upgrade equipment

it's like you haven't been following this quest

>>32812585

She's 15, while I understand you can marry off girls her age in ancient China, we can afford to wait a bit on that.

Lu Bu has Diao Chan so we don't want to marry her off to Lu Bu since she won't be the main wife.

Let's wait for a more promising marriage.

>>32812518
>>Go see how Lingqi is doing
We need to at least apologize to her.

>>32812595
>>32812614

You guys complain too much.

We have half a year or so.

Lets see if we get more pay for 'defending this place'. We can do purchases after we've gotten a bit more cash, after some time has passed.

>>32812518
>>Go see your family

Why do you think apologizing to Lingqi will upgrade her opinion of you?

Her personality is easy to read. She's mini-Lu Bu with a complex about her gender. She doesn't care about your apologies or your kettle.

>>32812518
>>Go see how Lingqi is doing

>>32812585
>get our little sister married off to someone respectable
Fuck that, see if we cant get Lingqi to teach our sister how to use a spear.

>>32812635

We have cash now.

But whether or not buying equipment takes a full turn is important.

Because if it still does....then we need to make damn sure we spend a turn to at least get us some better damn armor.

If not, we need to make sure we still do it to get us at least some better damn armor.

We still have a good pile of gold to spend.

>>32812518
>>Go see your family
Dam I missed a lot. Good to see we are alive and still kick some ass.

>>32812518
>Go see your family
Family is everything in this age of china
Maybe pick up some gifts for them

>>32812681
> still kick some ass.
not so much

>>32812664
>But whether or not buying equipment takes a full turn is important.

It does.

http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/32683252/#32687729

>What do you do? (Buying equipment now WILL take a turn)

>>32812655
This
Let's have our little sister become a warrior like her big bro so that when our current character inevitably dies in battle we can continue to kick ass

>>32812699
Welp, that guarantees we will never buy equipment.

>>32812664

Iron Armor, Blade, and Bow are still my top choices.

That should give us two edges in a duel, raise our WAR to 86, and give us legitimate armor to avoid minor wounds.

>>32812718
I still want us to get that goddamned banner

>>32812689
I .. c-can.. dream. But joking a side, We are alive and we have a chance to rebuild.

>>32812699
Turns are already painfully stupid. 3 months and we can have one conversation with one guy?

Equipment gives tiny bonuses. Choosing to get equipment over building up social links is suicidal.

>>32812718

We're mainly fighting from horseback now.

Would the spear be a better choice than the sword?

Thinking of lu xun style warrior mode.

>>32812718
We have been getting minor wounds fairly often, Iron armor would probably fix that

>>32812767

The Spear doesn't give additional Wound Effect in a duel.

Spear only gives +2 War, compared to Blade's +1 and advantage in duel.

>>32812750

So we do it at one shot.

We spend a couple of turns doing social links and helping the people, see if we get more pay.

Either way, we then do some purchases after.

>>32812782
>implying the items are the same

We were at the capital before. The items here will probably be worse.

>>32812801

We can't, we don't know how many turns we get before we get thrown into a battle or an event.

We need to buy on the first turn to ensure we actually get to an shop.

>>32812767
Spear? Might as we'll get a Glaive then

>>32812699

Except at the end of the last thread, we asked if he could revise it to NOT take a full turn, as that was one of the major complaints.

Aside from the butthurt autists complaining that we lost a battle

>>32812822

We have half a year though.

>>32812822
And that comes at the cost of being able to possibly influence the battle.

Item shops taking a turn mean we will not ever use item shops, it's pretty much that simple.

>>32812818

It could be better as well, this was the "new" capital and the merchants and peasants were suffering from Dong Zhuo being Dong Zhuo.

>>32812835
So, two turns.

>>32812833
>butthurt autists complaining that we lost a battle
Yes, that was obviously what the shitstorm was about.

>>32812518
>>Go see how Chen Gong is doing

We need to set up a tutoring schedule because our 63 intelligence isn't cutting it.

>>32812881
I think the shitstorm was more over losing the capital than the battle we fought but fuck it that's in the past now

>>32812895
We didn't even get to see our waifu due to samefags, anon. Chen Gong isn't ever being visited.

File: imouto.jpg (22 KB, 255x255)

22 KB JPG

>Go see your family
You got to see your family first. It would speak ill for you to ignore your own clan, especially when you are the head of it. (Cha +2, Pol +2)

Your little brother and sister welcome you. Your little brother is a handsome man and has taken care of the clan while you were away. He is not a warrior like you, but he has a good head and does management work well. He has not found a woman yet, and you think that he will be essential to making connections with other noble families.

Your little sister is young, obedient, and beautiful. She is at the time of marriage (During this time period anyway) and she should also be essential to making connections with other families.

“Welcome... Welcome elder brother,” Zhu Yang says as he clasps your hand. “I heard what happened at Chang An, and was worried you would have not returned to us.”

“Thank the spirits that you are safe...” your sister, Yue, says putting her arms around you. “You must be tired. Please rest while you can.”

The day goes by as you spend your time with your family.

>>32812903

Thats the problem with the faction we founded though.

To avoid the historical path we took, we needed to do some very specific counters to avoid the faction dying.

>>32812929
A month passes. Your army is still recuperating and recovering. You should take this time to see the markets and find better equipment.

>Whispering Blade: 100 gold (+1 War, Better chance to injure in duels)
>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)
>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)
>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)
>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)
>Rattan Armor: 150 gold (+1 War, Very strong and light against blades and arrows. More injuries from fire however, and you look like a barbarian)
>Black Blaze 100 gold (Horse, slightly fast and strong)
>White Mark 200 (Horse, +1 War, fast and strong)
>Family Banner: 100 gold (+2 Pol, People recognize your clan better and your fame grows slight better)
>Treaties on the State: 150 gold (+5 Pol)
>Art of War: 200 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)
>Silk Robes: 100 gold (+3 Cha)

>>32812929
Marrying sister when?

>>32812935
No, Raian just needed to come up with a scenario that didn't require our side to be flat suicidal or make decisions like retards.

>>32812944
>>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)
>>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)

>>32812944
Whispering Blade
Family Banner
iron Armor

>>32812935

We already diverged in some ways. Cao Cao doesn't have Xu Chang, Chen Gong joined us extremely early on.

>>32812944
>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)
>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)

>>32812944
>Whispering Blade: 100 gold (+1 War, Better chance to injure in duels)
>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)
>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)

>>32812949
Nope, were turning her into a warrior so she can be our backup PC

>>32812978
>>32812971
This.

>>32812979
this

>>32812944
>>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)
>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)

Guys, reinforced iron armor is probably a better investment than whispering blade.

>>32812944
>Art of War: 200 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
Holy shit, the Art of War by Sun Tzu. We desperately need this to ba a better tactician and strategist and to boost our INT.

>>32812944
>>Whispering Blade: 100 gold (+1 War, Better chance to injure in duels)
>>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)
>>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)

>>32812979
>>32813017
This

>>32812944
>>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)
>>Family Banner: 100 gold (+2 Pol, People recognize your clan better and your fame grows slight better)

>>32812971
I'm in favor of this. Bitchin' armor to go with our badass officer killing bow

>>32812944
>>Whispering Blade: 100 gold (+1 War, Better chance to injure in duels)
>>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)
>>>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)

>>32813007
Yeah, better armor and a bow sounds good. We'll become a mini-Flying General.

>>32812979
I prefer this to the heavier armor.

>>32812971
This

>>32812979
The marginal utility of going from +1 armor to +2 armor is very low as compared to going from no sword to whispering blade.

Everyone voting for the reinforced armor is making a bad decision.

>>32812944
>>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold
>Whispering Blade: 100 gold
I like the better melee my self. But is not I will back >>32812971

No family banner?

I am disappointed

>>32813012
Thought with the demoralized state of our army, investing in a number of Army Banners would do well to raise moral

>>32813071

>no sword

We have a standard issue sword

>>32812979
This.

What happens to our old armor when we upgrade? Do we pawn it in for half its original cost?

>>32813071

I disagree. There's clearly an unwritten benefit to having stronger (see all the wounds we have taken).

The WAR benefit comes out to a wash, but the difference might be additional surviviability in both duels and army battles versus an additional wound check in duels.

I choose the former.

>>32812979
Fuck heavier armor. For all we know that'll make things harder.

>>32812944

>Reinforced Iron Armor
>Whispering Blade

OR

>Reinforced Iron Armor
>Wind Bow


We either go blade-master or bow-master route

>Captcha choose helpten

We must find this "ten" and help them!

>>32812944
Wait, how much gold do we have to work with anyway? Was some of it lost with the city?

>>32813145

We'll get those eventually.

>>32813167

280

>>32813119
So you're basing your decision on guesses as opposed to the actual stats we see. Sigh. /tg/.

Oh, and
>>32812979
Backing this.

>>32813125

Unlikely.

The Iron armor is probably going to be similar to lamellar which is still light, but much stronger.

It's also the go-to for officers.

>>32812944
> everyone buffing our war stat when its already stupidly high.

Reinforced Iron Armour and Army Banner.

File: 6108_1116992931_medium.jpg (93 KB, 590x938)

93 KB JPG

>>32813145
To Ten! or something

>>32813111
We should give it one of our siblings

I love the samefagging.

>>32813119
Of course as that choice is based on assumptions that have no backing, what you should really be doing is asking the QM for a simple stat clarification.

>>32813145
You don't know Ten, the strategist girl from Kingdom?

Iron armor is bought. -100 gold.
180 gold left.
Votes are pretty equal on Whispering Blade or Wind Bow. Vote on one of them, or for something else.

>>32813221
>Iron armor is bought. -100 gold.
wut.

>>32813208

>people are choosing things I don't want!
>must be samefagging!

Here's some herp for your derping

>>32813221

>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)

It's 70 gold, we can buy both.

>>32813221
-70*
210*

>>32813221
Whispering Blade

>>32813246
Yeah, in which case we buy both.

>>32813221

>Iron armor is bought. -100 gold.

What.

That cost doesn't even correspond to reinforced or plain iron armour.

WHAT did we buy.

>>32813233

Please. Look at the timestamps of 1min and plus few seconds between posts saying support.

Frankly i don't care.

>>32813221
>>32813246

There's no need for a vote then, since iron armor won, the votes say that we should buy both bow and sword.

Mah Reinforced Armor

>>32813221
Whispering blade.

>>32813221
>Going with both.

I was hoping for the best we could get for armor, But o well.

>>32813221

...don't you mean Reinforced Iron Armor?

That got the most votes.

So our gold should be at 130.

Anyway...

>Whispering Blade

>>32813221
Raian, can we get a clarification on if buying better armor makes us less susceptible to wounds?

Are the wounds we take based on failed WAR rolls or our armor?

>>32813221
I'll vote for Blade as our roll averages suck to make me leery of the extra roll for the bow

>>32813221
Wipsering blade and family banner

>>32813266
Wait, if we can buy both then I'm definitely changing >>32813247
To both

>>32813221

Wind Bow and Family Banner

>>32813246
Both.

>>32813221

Buy both

>>32813221
If we can buy both, then both. If not, then the whispering blade.

>>32813221
>>32813246

Both

>>32813221
Buy Both

>>32813221

Both

>>32813281

What's the worst that can happen? Averages make it really difficult for us to get a really shitty role.

The worst that happens is we miss the initial shot.

>>32813277
Yes. Better armor will better protect you from wounds. Don't expect it to break every sword and arrow thrown at you however.

>Whispering Blade
>Window Boy
-200 gold. Wait for next update.

>>32813246

Raian, in cases like this try final destination voting.

A number of the votes appeared suspect due to timestamp and minor variations.

In any case, this is a minor thing so i'm not too worried about this vote.

>>32813330
We will need to train well in our new gear.

>>32813336
>implying final destinaton can't be samefagged

>>32813330
>>Window Boy

A BOY.

WHATEVER WILL WE DO TO A LITTLE BOY

>>32813330

Did we just buy a shota?

>>32813350
He knifes people from our back. He just holds on and jumps on people to stab them.

File: 1365219059197.png (47 KB, 208x250)

47 KB PNG

>>32813350

>>32813350
Throw him at the enemy and hop they act like Catholic Priests

>>32813375
We are Wolf and Cub now

>>32813330

Raian, this is a minor point.

But shouldn't the Pastebin be

>War: 84 (+2)

And not

>War: 85 (+1)

Since the equipment is +2?

>>32813401

A better question is if whether the number for
>War: 85 (+1)

Is the 85 before or after the equipment plus.

>>32813460

I assumed that we were still at 84 since that's where we were last thread and we haven't seen a [War +1]

>>32813481

That would be correct yes.

However, that info isnt available to anyone who might be new to the quest.

Raian needs to make it clearer.

Time passes. You hear about the other lords. Cao Cao has taken much of Yuzhou province, and you wonder if he plans to take Xu Chang next. It doesn't matter too much either way as your army does not plan to stay for longer.

Sun Jian perished while fighting with Liu Biao under Yuan Shu's orders. They say Sun Jian's son is a fine warrior and continues to serve Yuan Shu.

In the north, Yuan Shao and Gongsun Zan fought for a while before they made a truce. Yuan Shao plans to unify his surrounding areas and fights against bandits.

You have a turn to do some actions. You remember your army is technically here as a mercenary force.
>Visit someone of importance (Choose)
>Train a stat (Choose)
>Attack the local bandits for money and mercenary work

>>32813504
>>Attack the local bandits for money and mercenary work
Gotta build up a peasant army

>>32813504
>>Attack the local bandits for money and mercenary work
Lets get a work out and maybe new troops.

>>32813504
>>Train a stat (int)

since it's obviously the god stat of this quest

>>32813504
>Visit someone of importance (Choose)
Chen Gong

>>32813504
>>Attack the local bandits for money and mercenary work

>>32813504
Changed my mind on >>32813532

Switching to

>>Visit someone of importance (Cheng Gong)

About where we should go, how we should plan our next moves, and to boost our intelligence.

>all these people voting for going out to attack

Sure hope you like the burned ruins of Xu Chang when we get back.

No one voting for lingqi or lu bu.

Looks like it's mission accomplished, Raian.

>>32813504
>>32813531

Supporting

>>32813460
It's updated. If it doesn't look right, it means I haven't gotten to it and fixed everything yet. Be patient, as I am doing various things at once. The War stat is updated, the ones in parenthesis is how much items are increasing it. So right now, 86 (+2) is naturally a 84 War.

>why turns are in months, why officer visits take a full turn
So I can move things faster and things proceed at a better pace. Lords during these times rested for years at times, fought for another few years at times without much gain, and things didn't pan out in a matter of days and weeks. I need to keep the game pace and years rolling. If I used turns by every single day, we would get nowhere.

>>32813504
>>Visit someone of importance (Lu Bu)

Sempai is probably depressed.

>>32813504
>>Visit someone of importance (lingqi)

We need heirs

>>32813550

>Time passes. You hear about the other lords. Cao Cao has taken much of Yuzhou province, and you wonder if he plans to take Xu Chang next. It doesn't matter too much either way as your army does not plan to stay for longer.

Yes, I'm sure Cao Cao is planning to burn down Xu Chang instead of taking it intact.

>>32813531
Supporting.
Merc work is one thing, but we need long term plans for power.

>>32813605

No Raian, I'm just pointing out that it can look confusing to someone who is new to the quest.

A better notation would be:
Base + Equipment = Total

to make it absolutely clear without misunderstandings.

>>32813504
>Visit someone of importance (Lingqi)
Ask her if she'll train our sister to be a warrior.
That ought to play to her pride.

>>32813628
This.

>>32813504
>Visit someone of importance:

Cheng Gong

If we want to keep Lu Bu sempai alive, we should probably visit the smart guy for future plans. Waifu can come when we are have some plans for the future.

>>32813531
Chang Gong will get us places.
We need those places

>>32813661
>We need those places
People voting for Chang Gong confirmed as gay

>>32813504
I wanted to do a job and show them we got skill. But fine I will change my vote >>32813529 to
>Visit Chen Gong

>>32813642
Okay, done.

>>32813504
>Visit Chen Gong

>>32812956
/tg/ can't military tactic/strategy out of a paper bag.

Seriously. Diversionary maneuvers were the oldest trick in the book back in the Three Kingdoms era.

>>32813702

Raian is a credit to GMs

WAIT A MINUTE

We need a couple of officers by our side

>>32813726
When our garrison at Chang an decided to take the guaranteed death of a 10:1 battle rather than a 12:10 battle with the possibility of betrayal, they were acting like suicidal retards.

When Fan Chou was so utterly incompetent as to be unable to get a single messenger to us beforehand BECAUSE HE IS AN NPC, raian is just dressing up a railroad with the illusion of choice.

>>32813726

Our int even advised us to fall back after the first attack.

We decided to attack. /tg/ is not smart.

>>32813742
Bring Lu Bu's daughter

>>32813792
Will Lu Bu allow this?

>>32813801
Bring Lu Bu too!

>>32813504
>Visit someone of importance (Choose)
Chen Gong. We need a plan and a very cunning plan.

Wish we could also summon all of the officers under our command to make a grand strategy meeting (and hopefully see if Zhang Liao is alive and about).

>>32813742
Can we bring the kettle with us?

>>32813858

Can we bring the Window Boy with us?

>>32813864
>implying we're ever apart

>>32813770
>>32813787
I distinctly remember someone going on in the last thread about how Lu Bu's stats in the RoTK games were skewed towards combat and not towards the brainy side of war.

WAR and LDR were his good stats, CHR-INT-and-POL were more or less completely nonexistent for Lu Bu.

We have to be the defensive variant of Lu Bu.

We cannot go charging into melee like he does.

We cannot pursue Lu Bu.

>>32813858
Is the kettle an officer?

>>32813878
We're not going to be any variant of Lu Bu after the revelations last thread. We're going down the int path now.

Which means no lingqi waifu, but oh well.

>>32813881
No she is our kettle

>>32813878

We did that to some success last thread.

The strategy where we held the line while Lu Bu did a feint and hit them in the flank worked out pretty well.

Of course, then we went full Lu Bu and straight up charged a fortified position with 2x our numbers.

But we are learning!

Wait, did we lose the kettle?

>Visit Chen Gong
You remember the new addition to your force. He is acting as the main adviser for now but you know little about him besides that he seems quite resourceful. Perhaps you should make friends with him, or at the very least get to know him better.

You ask for the whereabouts of Chen Gong and you find out that is doing business with the merchants. You head to his location, where you find him negotiating with some businessmen as was told.

"The price is 50 taels.. No more, no less," the businessman says.
"You take me for a fool, Sir. I know that the harvest has been good this year for Xu Chang and the supply of grains for now is high, the demand low. The acceptable price is 30 taels."

The two discuss more, and in the end, Chen Gong manages to buy supplies for your army at a lower price. Quite a shrewd man...

You walk to him when the business is done. He bows when he sees you and smiles.

"Sir Zhu, how does your day go?"

What shall you say?
(Unless you would rather make me place options, conversation shall be generally more free-form from now on. Choose and vote on something to say)

>>32813915
>worked out pretty well.
No, it was just status quo + 1 day. We could've just sat there and it would've been the same.

>>32813943
"Sir Gong, if it is of no trouble, could we speak? I wish to get to know you better if you are to help us in our future endeavors."

>>32813943
Ask him to train our int.

>>32813943

Not well I must say. I was at one of the highest seats of power in all of the 3 kingdoms and in less than a months time I have fell so low and hard

This lesson is painful to learn

>>32813943
Bow.
"Cheng Gong, I am not a man of long words or politics, so I will get to the point, please help us re-take Chang An and save the Emperor once more"

>>32813943

After initial polite greetings, we should compliment him on his shrewedness.

If we haven't already, thank him for helping us get into Xu Chang by negotiating with the governor.

Ask whether he has plans for where we are to go after we leave Xu Chang since Cao Cao approachs.

Ask him if he would be willing to educate you in his spare him to learn more about military tactics so that you can better serve Lu Bu.

That's general conversation ideas, none of which should be repeated in verbatim obviously.

>>32813943

Options would be good as a guide but leave in the
>write-in
option.

>>32813974
This is good though.

>>32813998
>all of the 3 kingdoms

The three kingdoms don't exist yet.

>>32813943
Ask him for lessons to raise our Int stat.

>>32813943
>>32813974

This is probably the safest conversation starter. People's ideas about future plans and intelligence training are good though

>>32814038
>>32813982

This.

>>32814032
Oh god I totally forgot

>>32813998
>>32814032
Yep, we're technically still in the latter part of the Eastern Han dynasty.

Three Kingdoms officially start after Cao Pi overthrows the last Han Emprah and declares himself Emprah of Cao Wei.

>>32813943
I will back this >>32813974
Then we get into more question after we learn more about the guy.

>>32813974
One thing to note - the best bet in terms of respect is to refer to someone by their style name. In Chen Gong's case this is Gongtai, so his form of address would be Chen Gongtai. For Lu Bu his style name is Fengxian, so his style is Lu Fengxian (although we're good friends so referring to him by his adult name is still fine)

>>32813974
This, its broad enough to allow for any topic we wish to pursue with him.

>>32814130
Except that Raian has consistently finished entire conversations after one vote. So we're probably not going to get any other topics.

>>32814141

citation please.

We've had multiple choices when we have conversations with folks we visit or folks that visit us.

>>32814156
The second conversation with Lu Bu and Cai Wen were both 1 topic. The only conversation we did have that spanned more was the first lu bu one.

>>32814169
What, do you want to spend the entire fucking session just chatting with someone for hours?

>>32814169

bullshit, we went through 2 choices for the lu bu conversation.

The joke one that produced the furor and the one where we got him to go after dong zhuo

>>32814141
1. no he hasn't

2. quit being a negative bunny I'm trying to enjoy a quest here.

>>32814183
Lu bu conversation was 1.what's wrong?->2.Betray/don't betray

cai wen was 1.poetry->2.waifu/don't waifu

>>32814210

Thats still not one vote

>>32814216
And you'll note i said one topic, not vote. Or not, since my opinion on the intelligence of people in this quest is quite low.

>>32814210

Cai wen was:
Greet/don't greet -> Invite her in/tell her to go -> Ask about her? -> waifu or not

stop spreading rubbish

>>32814210

2 choices will be more than enough for our conversation with Cheng Gong.

>>32814228

>>32814141
>Except that Raian has consistently finished entire conversations after one vote

otherwise you're just shifting the goalposts to fit what you want.

>>32814258
Yes, ignore the part after that. You fit in this quest pretty well.

>"Sir Gong, if it is of no trouble, could we speak? I wish to get to know you better if you are to help us in our future endeavors."

Chen Gong laughs in good nature to your remark and places a hand behind your back.

"Why not. I am returning to my quarters, and we may speak as we walk."

You both proceed to walk down the streets of Xu Chang. You can see that Xu Chang is a flourishing city with a good population and big markets. The people are content as always, and you are glad to have been born here.

In any case, what do you say to Chen Gong?
>Ask him about his past and origins
>Ask him about his interests and hobbies
>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far
>other, write-ins

>>32814301
>>Ask him about his past and origins

>>32814301
>>other, write-ins
Ask him to train our int

>>32814301
>Ask him about his AMBITION

>>32814301
>Ask him about his past and origins

>>32814314
this it's somewhat Inane but we're getting to know him & there are almost certainly eye's & ears on the streets

>>32814318
prehaps later in a more secure location

>>32814301
>>Ask him about his interests and hobbies

Time to waifu Cheng Gong

>>32814318
This.

>>32814334
>more secure location
We plotted a rebellion in a bar. I don't think we need to shadowrun this.

>>32814301
>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far

Obviously the correct choice.

>>32814342
>The gay agenda comes out of the closet.

>>32814301
>>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far
I wish to know of your past deeds and what you think what our group should do next.

>>32814169

Considering that the first was a critical one to engage a major plot point and that the second was a courtesy call.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

>>32814301

>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far

>>32814334
Oh please, we talked to Lu Bu about betraying Dong in a damn Tavern!

Supporting asking about his ambitions.

>>32814349
considering how we fucked up last quest admittedly with help from OP we should probably

>>32814301
>Ask him about his past and origins.
>Other (Ambition)
"In our first conversation, you mentioned that you wished to see a unified land. Do you mean a unified land under the banner of the Han dynasty? Or..." (purposefully trail off and look at him)

>>32814301
>>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far

We obviously care a lot about our city and it would be good to see what type of work he has performed.

>>32814301
>>32814301
>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far

Also if we leave are we going to evacuate our family or assume they'll be fine when Cao Cao comes?

>>32814318
Supporting this.

>>32814370
True, assuming the QM is out to fuck us would probably serve us better in this quest.

>>32814369

We're walking back to his damn house.

We can ask him there later.

>>32814301
>>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far

>>32814318
We need to go places, and so does he.

>>32814389
So...Cao Cao probably has agents in town already, replaying information to him. We'll have to assume he has an army ready to skullfuck us the moment we leave the city.

>>32814301
>>Ask him about his past and origins

We can ask him the other stuff at his place in privacy.

>>32814390
Lu bu, treason, tavern, etc etc.

>>32814318
This.

>>32814301
>Ask him about his past and origins