Outside, the Araraki's not all that far away, sitting at the entrance with her back turned in protest.

“What want?” She's a fair bit more direct than usual, likely a result of being choked. It's strange for her to be so defensive though.

“Wanted to make sure you were okay... And you didn't run, did you?”

She doesn't respond to that. “Still want to go home? Glass City?”

“I... Don't know anymore...” Marine looks at you with surprise in her eyes, you return with a painful smile, a disarming giggle.

The Araraki's head inclines a bit,”Better if know. We would like it... If you could be friends...”

“Thought were before?” Marine's Raguna is even worse than the Araraki's.

She doesn't reply, only a tilt of her head, and her tail wrapping around her seated body.

You decide to put this back on topic, “What did you bring back?” You can see the alarm in her body and spirit as you say that. Slowly, but surely, she looks in your general direction.

“Nothing. Go away.” She cuts you off, looking forward again, or rather, away from the two of you.

The Araraki is hiding something... And it's likely that she won't give it up easily.

(Posting the last part of the last tread since noting would really move from here without an input.)

>[] Push questioning.
>[] Talk to her about the dome.
>[] Go and rest, you need to recover.
>[] Try to get to know her better.
>[] (other)

>>33072387
>[] Talk to her about the dome.
>[] Try to get to know her better.

Cultural exchange. Start from childhood.

>>33072387
>>[] Try to get to know her better.
Talk about trust, and teamwork. We can poke around other venues before suspecting her of stealing the Index.

>>33072442
We can ask her about why her dress is bloody after she becomes less tense.

>>33072387
What does the blood smell like?

>>33072442
>What does the blood smell like?
Iron, dirt, bacteria, death(although dying is the correct term)

so if it smells like anything other than that...POKESCIENCE, and a clue.

>>33072553
messed up the link, damnit. >>33072468

>>33072387
>[] Push questioning.

She stole our stuff!

>>33072553
Someone raised up the idea last thread that the Araraki went to killl the Narga-kage's cubs. So if the blood smells like the Narga-kage...

>>33072387
>>[] Talk to her about the dome.

>>33072387
>[] Try to get to know her better.
>[] Talk to her about the dome.
Tell her a bit about our friends, in a generalistic sense. And our mom.

We really don't want them to worry about us.

>>33072678
>We really don't want them to worry about us.

What do you mean by that?

>>33072734
oh, that we went missing in the middle of a mission, and that they are probably worrying about us a lot.
We don't want them to worry about us, hence our desire to get back so badly.

>>33072734
We(Ceru and Marine) don't want them(Dome people, mom, friends) to worry about us.

>>33072442
yeah, start with just getting to know her better.

Move onto talking about the dome if the conversation shifts that way, but don't force it.

>>33072239
>[]Push questioning

>>33072239

Hooray! On time again!

>[x] Push questioning

>>33072239
>Push Questioning

Bitch, where is our gear? Did you want us to die in this fight, is that why you ran away?

>>33072878
>>33072932
>>33072933
Not linked.

Marine did super great last time around.
We should inform her of this before finally going unconscious.

>>33073060

Oops. >>33072932 revoting now >>33072387

>[] Push questioning

>>33072933
>>33073060

[x] Push questioning

Better now?

>>33073060
Don't tell me you didn't even start writing after close to half an hour had passed?

>>33072387
>[] Push questioning.
>[] Talk to her about the dome.

“Marine, help me down,” You pat your friend with your good arm, and she assists you with slinking down upon a support of the dugout's entrance. The Araraki looks to you from a side-hole of her skeletal mask, closes her eyes and begins to rise.
“Wait.” You say, reaching out with your good arm and nearly losing your balance, “I just want to talk.”

She hesitates, “What to say?”

“Well.” You hold back any accusations for now. She's not in the mood, and you're not in a good condition to chase her if she decides to leave. “Do you want to know about where we're from? The Glass city?””

“Why?”

“Because you might understand why... Well... Why we need to go back.” That stabs you in the heart a little bit. The part of you that wants to go back, that's the part that hurt Jojo... You swallow and she seems to take notice of your hesitation.

She sets herself before you, squatting, a deal of her shyness gone, that surreal politeness evaporated. “What change?”

“I'm sorry?”

“Tell later. Speak of dome.”

You tell the Araraki about your childhood. About your mother and how you grew up in Cerulean. You explain to her how the quarters are separated and that Cerulean handled the water, caught fish, and worked on boats.
Marine adds in the lake, and how fun it was to go swimming.

“Oh, one day. Monster get in... Shoot our friend Aqua with water. He lose eye. He okay now, he get staryu put in.” Marine gives a bittersweet smile as she recollects the memory, thinking of home now, it turns into a frown.

The Araraki leers at you and Marine, not making eye contact persay, but staring at you just as intently,”Put... in?”

>>33073485
It's a good thing Marine is still bad at speaking the language. Easily recoverable.

>>33073552
What? no don't lie!

>>33073598
She's an Araraki. She can't detect lies.

>>33073485
Eh, we want to go back ourselves. Not just the rocket mode.
Rocket mode doesn't give a shit about our friends.

>>33073485

Damnit guys...we're supposed to keep the dome as secret as possible. Refealing our repel tech, then how rangers are made...

>>33073640
Yes, I know this. But don't lie please. lying is bad.

>>33073710
That was Marine.

You get a bad feeling, and cut of the tangent, “Yeah, he survived. Really scared though. Oh, and we are hunters there. We're trained to protect our people, it's part of why we need to go back.

The Araraki blinks, yet nods to that, “Yes, not all people can protect themselves... But you.” She looks away, hoisting herself up to standing and shaking her body limber like an animal. “You protect bad people. Protect bad, bad guardian. Protect good, good guardian...” She looks back to you,”White, you good guardian, or bad guardian?”

Your head drop as much as your heart. Even though you don't know her that well... even though she should know barely anything about the dome... She keeps trying. Is it because she's right and you're wrong? Or is she just trying to turn you away from the dome?

The other girl was going to kill Kurojo before because he was a monster, right?

Why do you feel like the bad guy? Are you the bad guy?

>[] “I'm a good guardian... You're wrong.” She needs to be wrong.
>[] “I... don't know.” What if she's right?
>[] (other)

>>33073730

Talking about the dome led to this.

>>33073797
>] “I'm a good guardian... You're wrong.” She is wrong

This bitch is so fucking annoying. Being fro the dome does not make people bad, ffs. Even if Silph or so eone powerful is bad, mostpeople there are innocent and good.

>>33073797
>>Other
I'm a guardian. There are good and bad people in the dome.

>>33073797
>[] “I'm a good guardian... You're wrong.” She needs to be wrong.
>I protect my people; all of them. I don't pick or choose who to guard. My friends and loved ones and all the civilians whose faces I've never seen. There might be bad people there, but there are also many good people. You can't just call them all bad, especially if you've never seen or spoken to them yourself. Please trust me on this.

>>33073797
>>33073797
[x] (other)

"Good or bad, I'm still Cerulean. Is that not enough?"

I'm not so good with the clever wording but you get the sentiment.

>>33073797
>>[] “I'm a good guardian... You're wrong.”

No doubting the people in the dome, Ceru. Lots of good folk there.

The araraki bad mouthing the dome is like bad mouthing the germans born todaybecause of Hitler. Don't blame people who was born now for the deeds of those long gone.

>>33073797
changing >>33073878 to >>33073888

>>33073797
>>33073882
This. A little assertion there. Capitalize on her just blanketing everyone with the same label.

Tell her what she's doing is no different than what the Smolder or Kahkori think about the Araraki. She's making assumptions of an entire group of people without even trying to understand who the people are in that group.

That's racism, yo.

>>33073797
>[] “I'm a good guardian... You're wrong.”

She won't ever stop this, will she?

I too dislike the rest of the writing. "Needs" to be wrong? Ceru, get a hold of yourself. You of all people know how good the people there is.

>>33073797
>>[X] “I'm a good guardian... You're wrong.” She needs to be wrong.

>>33073797
>>33073931
This.

>>33073797
>>33073931
>without even trying to understand who the people are in that group.
Or understanding their traditions and culture. Everyone looks down on the Araraki for building with bones and respecting nature. But they have their reasons for it, don't they? But no one wants to try and understand, so they live as second class citizens.

>>33073797
>[] (other)
There's lots of people in the domes, good and bad.

>>33073797
>>33073977
Thirding.

>>33073931
This man has my sword.

>>33073797
Seconding the whole RACISM angle here.

>>33073892
PLUS this. Ask her how long ago her people know of the Dome people. Is all they know about the Domes from the past? If so, how can she say with confidence that ALL the people are "bad" without even knowing who the people are NOW?

>>33073797
>>33073882
>>33073931
>>33073993
>>33074061
Oh. Adding an idea to this. Visual presentations! Point out how different Marine and Ceru look. Just like how the two of them look real different from each other, the people of the Dome are all so very different too. Maybe not physically (civilians), but everyone has their own wills and personalities.

>>33074161
how about a crudely made slide show? or a one act play describing Araraki's foibles?

>>33074161
Let's not. Marine may get the wrong idea and accidentally blurt out more information we don't want getting spread.

>>33074190
Yes! Excellent! And a show on PBS! I do not know if PBS is still a thing in America or not. They haven't shown it in my country for a long time.

>>33074204
it still is

government funded IIRC

>>33074201
Honestly I think we should get our monster biology explanation out of the way sooner rather than later, where we have more control over how it comes out. It's liable to blow up in our face if we try to conceal it for too long.

>>33073797
Let's ask her if she's ever done anything bad while guarding the plants.

>>33074398
Not up to us to decide, anon. That's a major information leak.

>>33074398
And what if we don't convince the Araraki that we aren't horrible abominations?

Then she'll tell everybody available that we're skinwalkers, and we'll either have to convince the entire village and our acquaintances here that we're not bad, or we'll have to kill everybody on the island to keep it down.

“There are good and bad people from where I'm from... Why- how could you call them all bad if you don't even know them? That's like what the smolder and Kahkori do to Araraki, isn't it?” You speak the words, but your heart isn't all there with them. Between your doubts, and your pain, you're still uncertain.

“Good can kill. Bad know not to stop. Elder say glass city people did bad things.”

“What like?” Marine asks, finally feeling a part of the conversation.

“They make animal fight animal. Kill whole forest, mountain, ocean. Fight each other like Smolder, drive away the world Serebyi.”

“You keep mentioning Serebyi, but how could anything drive away a god?” You ask.

She turns fully, her tail brushing away loose earth in its low hang. The eyes beneath her mask are sad and passionate, “Serebyi peace. Ones like Smolder war and burn. Tales of glass the same. What it like... Outside city?”

You recall the fields of ash. The area outside the dome where the land is regularly burned back by the Cinnabar. It's just for safety though... But, yeah. Nothing lives there. Not for a couple miles around the perimeter of the dome.

You don't say anything and she takes it as admission. “Glass City... It is bad. Bad for the world. Smolder bad. Even Tuskless Kahkori try to keep balance. It why we live in Raguna. It why Smolder live on bad land.” She looks over into the night, a breeze passing the residual scent of burnt wood. “Smolder destroy. Elder say glass destroy too.”

“Wait. Wait second.” Marine holds her hands up for a pause. She turns to you, “Hey Ceru, this is getting pretty heavy. Want me to help you just get to bed?”

>[] “Yeah, Marine... I'm tired.”
>[] “No, I want to understand why she's saying this.”
>[] (Other)

>>33074594
>>[X] “Yeah, Marine... I'm tired.”

>>33074594
>You recall the fields of ash. The area outside the dome where the land is regularly burned back by the Cinnabar. It's just for safety though... But, yeah. Nothing lives there. Not for a couple miles around the perimeter of the dome.
Uh, it was totally a jungle right outside the Dome, Prof. Don't you remember our first mission?

>>33074594
>[] No, I want our indexes back.
>[] What were you hiding?

Enough of this. Talking to gain trust...yeah, awesome work there. Brush the araraki's words aside and press her again on what she was hiding. Bitch.

>>33074594
eh, I don't mind
>[] “Yeah, Marine... I'm tired.”

Though, do tell the araki that we don't live with nature, but we don't destroy the whole thing either.

There -are- great and terrible wildlands outside of the safe areas of the dome. Most everything is poison.
And anything we burn, grows back almost immediately.

>>33074670
You had to cross the field before you hit the Veridian forest. It's a couple miles of burned land as written.

>>33074594
>>[] “No, I want to understand why she's saying this.”

>>33074691
She will be PISSED if she knew we regularly burned the forest. Nature priestess and all that.

>>33074721
well, we should mention the forest.
It's lush, thick, full of life and doubly full of dangers.

>>33074594
>>[X] “Yeah, Marine... I'm tired.”

How about we talk about the strongest people in the dome and how they're all pretty progressive?

Bruno and his peaceful encounter with the Machop, Agatha and how she doesn't abuse.her massive power, but instead makes sure the dead don't become Lost.

And finally our mother, the message she trusted us with and the reason we have to go home, to help it change and grow.

>>33074594
>>[] “No, I want to understand why she's saying this.”

>>33074796
That would be a pretty interesting detail to bring up with her.

>>33074594
>You recall the fields of ash. The area outside the dome where the land is regularly burned back by the Cinnabar. It's just for safety though... But, yeah. Nothing lives there. Not for a couple miles around the perimeter of the dome.
This happens in real life too. Nothing wrong with it, but there's nothing we can tell the Araraki since they worship the plants.

>>33074823
well, I don't mind bringing up a few of the influential good people.

Also, while we're on the topic, maybe ask if she's ever heard of machops.

>>33074796
Those aren't the people we're protecting.

>>33074594
>>33074823
Yeah, sure. Not sure about Bruno, since who knows how much the Araraki would know of races outside of the 3 in the Hunters' guild, but Agatha and mom are good topics to bring up.

>>33074885
They are of the Dome and influential leaders within it, however.

>>33074594
I just thought of it, but we should ask how she lives with the wild without hurting it.

Because, you know, living with the wild is a recipe to get murdered by poison bugs as far as we know, so that would be handy information.

It annoys me that we won't discover what she was hiding now. Whenever talk about the dome happens, she takes control of the talking and whatever Ceru has to say falls on deaf ears. She doesn't care that the Dome does what is hecessary for survival.

Next time, can we please stop trying to be friends with her and just press her to reveal what she's hiding? Because fuck, now we won't know what she was doing in the fight.

>[X] “Yeah, Marine... I'm tired...but let me talk with her first."
Yeah, you know what? Fuck that noise. If all you're gonna argument is "But it's bad! M-Muh Elders said so!" then you can go back to find "Serebyi"'s dick to suck. We do not possess the authority to make judgement calls representing our culture and homeland, morality discussions are not of our concern, which is getting back to the Dome. Don't like it, glad to know you don't, but we don't need your approval to go back. Now, I swear to Arceus, I swear by my mum Lorelei, if what you're hiding are our indexes because you stole them, things are gonna get ugly.

>>33074594
>You recall the fields of ash. The area outside the dome where the land is regularly burned back by the Cinnabar. It's just for safety though... But, yeah. Nothing lives there. Not for a couple miles around the perimeter of the dome.
>You don't say anything and she takes it as admission. “Glass City... It is bad. Bad for the world. Smolder bad. Even Tuskless Kahkori try to keep balance. It why we live in Raguna. It why Smolder live on bad land.” She looks over into the night, a breeze passing the residual scent of burnt wood. “Smolder destroy. Elder say glass destroy too.”

>>33074836
Like what this anon said, there's nothing wrong with clearing the area around the Dome. It's not as if the area is destroyed without reason; it's just to stop monsters from settling nearby. There's a balance of life within the Dome and destruction around it. Of course, none of this really matters to the Araraki since they seem to be complete fanatics.

It's really annoying how you write Cerulean's thoughts in these scenes, Prof, when NO ONE here actually agrees or is convinced by the Araraki. There's a limit to how much you can force away the MC's thoughts from the thoughts everyone else has. Especially when no one shares it.

>>33075003
I like this guy, seconding this guy.

>>33074594
>>33075021
This, Prof. All you're really doing is making people pissed off at the Araraki. It's like SJW strawmanning arguments. It's annoying and it doesn't endear people to the character, especially if you make the character we control nod in agreement to everything they say.

>>33075039
>>33075021
Ceru's got her own personality. this isn't really anything new. Remember her thoughts last night? She's having some serious doubts about home.

This is why I had been considering the switch to third person.

>>33075084

Eh, try it next time you want to try to expose Ceru's thoughts better, then.

>>33075084
Yes, yes, but you're doing it too hard lately. No one will go along with it. And all you're doing is preventing Ceru from thinking anything else.

When we suggested that you could take more control of Ceru's thoughts, we didn't say you could take all control of Ceru's character. We still have a say in how she develops and all you've been doing is denying anything we have to say. You need to give back more control over the character, because you've taken too much.

>>33075084
She's also still only 12 (or is she older now?).

>>33075084
Because you've been controlling Ceru's thoughts. You haven't let her think anything else except what you approve. It's been becoming worse and worse lately, Prof.

>>33075084
Eh, some doubts sure, but this place is no better, and I don't see why she'd think it was.

I mean, imagine non-mutated humans even trying to survive out here without massive amounts of repel tech and monster support.

>>33075084
I've always liked the way Aspiring Emperor Quest did it.

>players make a choice or write-in
>QM puts the action through a personality filter to make it in-character
>the action also adds to the character himself

You're really using AoPH as a testing ground, y'know.

>>33075084
She's got her own personality. But WE also have a say in that personality's development. Something which you've been hogging all for yourself. It wasn't so bad when you started, but you're pushing your limits, Ygg.

>>33075084
What about third person interaction, but first person choices?

Make it clear what Ceru is thinking in the choices you give, don't just put choices so they're there.

>>33075084
No one wants 3rd person, Prof. Stop pushing for it.

No one wants to give you complete control over her personality either. Stop trying to take it all for yourself.

I wonder how Wanderer's pastebin smut is coming along?

Eh, doubts over the dome are something we've been having, just not to the point where we'll accept everything said against it.

>>33075084
Ceru's a sweet and nice girl, I know and accep that but by Arceus, no onle likes hearing the Araraki's constant stream of bullshit on a loop. They say even Buddha gets mad if you push him eough. Ceru's no saint, but we've used perfectly justified arguments against her doubts of our "duty" and "cause" to turn her down, if she keeps trying to bruteforce her opinions then we'll bruteforce through her thick mask that we dont give a shit what she, orher race, thinks. And if she took our shit, then we'll take it back by any means necessary.

Okay. New votes for a modest 12 year old based on what I'm seeing so far.

>[] Accuse the Araraki of stealing your indexes.
>[] Defend the Dome's ethics, the araraki has no right to question that.
>[] Call out the Araraki on not thinking for herself.
>[] Retire to bed, you're tired of this
>[] (Other)

>>33075298
It's still early.

>>33072239
Fuck yeah, AopH
Let's all argue and call each-other stupid and call Prof shit.

>>33075328
>[] Defend the Dome's ethics, the araraki has no right to question that.
May as well bring up our Domes' leaders too, like that one other anon suggested.

>>33075084
While everyone's criticizing you, I may as well bring up Kurojo; you explicitly promised that you wouldn't be forcing him on us. But your tone of voice here seems like you'd force it now. You need to learn to be consistent and keep to your word.

>>33075328
>[] Retire to bed, you're tired of this

>>33075328
>[] Retire to bed, you're tired of this

>>33075328
>[] Retire to bed, you're tired of this
We're far too tired to go on and on about what's right and what's not.

Also maybe, maaaybe ask her how her people manage to live in the wild without dying.
At least that might get us on the right track.

And for the record, the dome is well in its rights burning away a bit of the forest. But I don't want to argue with the araki about this.

>>33075328
>[] Retire to bed, you're tired of this
There's no convincing her at this point.

But like everyone else has said, stop forcing us to be convinced by anything she's said. Stop that Prof. All she's said have just been dumb blanket statements.

>>33075328
>[x] Retire to bed, you're tired of this

>>33075328
>>[] Defend the Dome's ethics, the araraki has no right to question that.
THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS!
>>[] Call out the Araraki on not thinking for herself.

>>33075328
>[] Retire to bed, you're tired of this

Really we need to have this talk with her when we're NOT mentally unbalanced due to recent trauma and exhaustion and injury.

>>33075328
>>33075328
>[x]All of the abov.
Yes, I mad. Stop trying to feed your godsdamned propaganda, and I have a good reason to suspect you stealing our shit, being more skittish than usual, not joining the fight, and regardless of it being our indexes or not, what the hell do you have hidden in your cunt? Fuck this, I just wanna go sleep and get back home, my REAL home, but you wouldn't understand since you got culturally enriched by the Kahkoris, toiling as slaves and despised by others races. Go suck on a branch, cunt.

>>33075328
>[] Retire to bed, you're tired of this
>>33075392
This too.

It's like you've been acting out an SJW fantasy, Prof. It's annoying to read.

We've seen the Dome ourselves. We know there's nothing "unbalanced" at all about the people's lifestyle. Burning the perimeter is completely fine and the only reason the Araraki is upset is because the plants are getting hurt.

>>33075328
We're too tired for much more of this. Our home isn't bad though, araki. We just have a lot of weak people, who can't live in the wild like you want.

>>33075469
No need to mention that a lot of our people are "weak". We don't want that piece of information going around.

>>33075486
well, how do you want to say it then?

>>33075494
Just say that we protect our weak.

Yes...let's go to bed and do nothing to change her mind, or improve the situation, while letting Ceru's doubts worsen. Surely that will acco plish so much.

>[] Accuse the Araraki of stealing your indexes.

>>33075501
well, the point remains the same. The woods are dangerous, and people die in them semi-regularly.

>>33075434
>>33075328

Pretty much this. We can't let her go with the last word, and wanting to talk things over later will result in nothing. Because there won't be another chance for this.

Let's plan to ask araki in plain monsterish with kurojo nearby if she had anything to do with the indexes dissapearing, once we're better.

We'll use our full aura powers to hopefully see if she's lying.

>>33075328
Go to sleep but say we'll talk later.

This isn't over.

>>33075328
>[] Accuse the Araraki of stealing your indexes.
>[] Defend the Dome's ethics, the araraki has no right to question that.

Fuck going to sleep, that is the same thing as admitting defeat and achieving nothing.

>>33075595
>talk later

And then, the araraki runs away or hides the indexes (if she has them).

If there is one thing I've learned in quests, is that the QM only gives one chance to do something important at the time. Specially QMs of Ygg's caliber (not saying its bad, prof)

>>33075328

>[] Accuse the Araraki of stealing your indexes.

>>33075328
>[] Retire to bed, you're tired of this

>>33075328
>[] (Other)
At least throw in mention of the better leaders.

>>33075641
>Accus the araraki of stealing uour indexes
>defend the dome's ethics, the araraki has no right to question that

I'm getting really angry at her.

If the Araraki stole it, then we'll be thrown a moral choice to kill her, won't we?

It's also still possible Jojo stole it for the tuskless. But we don't have evidence or testimonies or anything.

I say that we learn how to detect lies to discover the truth of the matter.

>>33075328

>[] Accuse the Araraki of stealing your indexes.
>[] Defend the Dome's ethics, the araraki has no right to question that.
>[] Call out the Araraki on not thinking for herself.

No time for bed, Ceru. You have RESPONSIBILITIES.

>>33075641
That'd be pretty shitty of him to do. Especially since we can't argue with her without seeming childish.

>>33075697

Oops, quoted the wrong post. Somehow.
>>33075328
>Accuse the araraki of stealing your indexes
>Defend the Dome's ethics, the araraki has no right to question that

>>33075716

I kinda hope we have to kill her. Most annoying character ever, she's like tumblr's SJW.

>>33075328
Go to bed otherwise Prof will make us look like a cunt.

>>33075765
>[] Retire to bed, you're tired of this
>>33075772 is right, it's literally impossible to win here because we're written as tired and upset.
wait till later, but have suspicions.

>>33075733

Eh, it's how things work in quests, anon. You should know that now.

And besides, there was opportunity to address the matters we wanted to, but noooooo, let's reveal information about the dome and get in another childish argument and end up not talking about what we wanted to.

>>33075328
>Press on what the Araraki were doing during the hunt
>Particularly if she was going to let us get killed.

Confront her about the index after.

>>33075765
It's because of Prof, really. He's really mucking it up by not even letting Ceru have a word in and controlling her thoughts. Seriously, this is pretty scummy of him. It's no wonder why so many people want to cut ties off with the Araraki now, since Prof just keeps forcing more and more "character development" no one wants onto us.

>>33075328
>Accuse the araraki of stealing your indexes
>question her on what she was doing during the fight.

Let's try to salvage this situation, it's not too late yet.

>>33075811
>implying that Ceru can't have any thoughts other than what the players mandate

That's the number one cause of why so many quest character's schizophrenia.

>>33075328
This is stupid, we're not gonna convince her by talking so we should just sleep.

Or at least wait until we're not so frazzled.

>>33075792

Hah, no, anon. No other chances will come. And every, every fucking talk with this character goes in the same direction and is about the same thing now.

>>33075848
But that's not even the issue here. Lots of people agree that Prof doesn't let anyone else have a say in her character. EVEN when we're all united on it.

>>33075811

See >>33075848

And well, should have picked a better option than talk about the dome then. You know, try to bond using something she doesn't fanatically considers evil?

>>33075848
No one said Prof couldn't have some control over her personality to keep in consistent.

The problem, however, is that Prof won't let anyone else influence the character. This isn't a matter of being a schizo. The majority here are united in character direction except for Prof.

Defend him as much as you wish, but that won't change this fact. Prof is just masturbating to his own literary prose at this point.

>>33075844
I'd rather question about the fight first and hear her response before bringing up the index and cutting all bridges.

>>33075915
I, too, am curious about the fight.
I'm also tired.

>>33075848
That's irrelevant because no one is divided on this point. Prof is essentially masturbating, just as this guy said
>>33075908

Don't ask about the indexes, maybe ask about the blood on her dress.

>>33075848
I'm sure you're so proud for coming up with that reply, so it makes me feel guilty to tell you how irrelevant and useless it is in this situation.

>>33075908
>>33075934

Stop fixating so much on Prof and try to fix things up in cahracter instead. If a certaind evelopment seems to be being forced upon Ceru, then vote as hard as you can in the opposite direction.

>>33075908
>>33075934
>implying that a united /tg/ still won't cause schizophrenia
>The problem, however, is that Prof won't let anyone else influence the character.
No, the problem is that /tg/ built a moeblob with a spine of steel that has a critical weakpoint in her friends.

We call the Araraki a friend. Her lectures hits us hard without Giovanni or Rockets as backup. To ignore how much the lecture hurts is schizophrenia.

>>33075970
Not with the way Prof has been doing things. Even here
>>33074594
He still forced it. There's no solution except to either avoid the Araraki and cutting off all ties with her or telling Prof he's being retarded about character development.

>>33075934
Well I think we can agree that the dome has flaws, but not as unilaterally as the Araraki says.

>>33075328
>Ask her what she was doing during the battle
>Ask her about the indexes (without sounding accusatory)

Can we at least agree on enver talking with her about the dome again? Please?

>>33076000
Thank you.

>>33076000
It hurts. That's it. But he keeps forcing us to keep buying into her crap. He doesn't let us have any say. He's talking to himself at this point. This isn't like early on in the quest at all.

No, we did not need him to have so much control over Ceru's character. It was so minor when we started out and we were still consistent. The problem is that he's become too selfish.

anybody else uses crtl+f for this quest?

>>33076033
>someone is agreeing with me, therefore I'm completely in the right and never have to admit anything wrong

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>>33076043
>But he keeps forcing us to keep buying into her crap.
FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIEND

Ceru would have shot her by now if she wasn't a friend. The thread asked for SJW when we befriended her.

>>33076033
Except we've already provided reasons why Ceru has no reason to think that way.

The Araraki is obsessed with plants to a fanatical level.

There's nothing wrong with burning the area around the dome. Why would we think there was something wrong just because she said it was bad?

The Dome is not destroying everything like the Smolder, after all. It's to keep monsters away.

>>33076033
You're an asshole, Prof. You've always been an asshole when no one agrees with you.

>>33076101
>provided reasons
Logical reasons. Lizard is using emotional appeal. +5 modifier to persuasion, +10 for being Ceru's friend.

>>33076033
People have already provided arguments for why Ceru shouldn't have to be forced to think that way. So why do you think that's some sort of absolute? You're railroading, Prof.

>>33076119

Yeah, stop this, you're not helping. Go away and vent your frustrations on something else.

Now, can we please move on and continue the quest? This quest always has the worst shitstorms.

>>33076063
can we drop the qm hate for this thread at least? please

>>33076138
If we're putting Charm into this, Ceru would automatically succeed at not getting Charmed.

>>33076119
It's not like the other guy isn't right though.
We can start to move away from that though, at least here. vote for ceru to go to sleep, but have growing reservations over Araraki's fanaticism.

In character.

>>33076033
Such a jackass, Prof. Such a jackass.

Oh wait, no. You're never wrong. You're always in the right.

>>33076167
>It's not like the other guy isn't right though.
He's not right, though.

>>33076141
This is the truth. There's no one way that Ceru should have been forced to take this information. Prof is railroading, this time in character development. He won't let anyone control the character anymore.

>>33076159
>implying that moelizard doesn't have nice Tenacity and Charm
>implying that moelizard isn't burning Charm and Tenacity right now to confront us.

I want to burn bridges with the lizard right now, unless she gives a good reason for the fight abandonment.

>Everybody mad as hell

Sauciest playerbase going today

>>33076138
Then we play the ultimate emotional card and talk about our mom.

>>33076154
The arguments only started to get harsher when Prof started refusing to be blamed for anything. Like usual.

>>33076219
>There's no one way that Ceru should have been forced to take this information
>>33076000
>a critical weakpoint in her friends

She's hitting super effective.

Either accept her, continue using her until usefulness runs out, or drop her like a hot potato.

>>33076280
This will do very, very nicely. Nobody beats us at emotional. Therefore answer her appeal with one of our own.

>>33076224
>moelizard

Maybe when we first met her...but she's not moe anymore.

>>33076273
I guess there's an advantage to only running once a week. It gives the playerbase time to depressurize.

Running multiple times seems to make AoPH go full frothing assmad.

>>33076219
Both are kind of right.
We have reasons to distrust her, but we have been making ourselves closer to her.

Hey whats going on in this thread

I have an application on my desktop programed to ping me and link me to a post every time someone on /tg/ mentions the word "SJW" so I can derail the thread, but this isn't a politics thread at all. It's a quest.

Someone explain to me very briefly what everyone's complaining about and how SJWs are involved so I can figure out whether or not I need to troll future threats.

>>33076306
>a critical weakpoint in her friends
Yes, what of them? The Araraki is accusing all of her friends at the Dome of being 'bad'. The reasoning being that she doesn't know any of them. Which is a major point against the Araraki, who is not a friend. Just someone Ceru has known for two days in total.

>>33076323
>Both are kind of right.
That is true. But the decision for how to think was taken away from us by the Prof, which is what people are getting angry about. He's been doing this for a while and he's becoming more and more blatant.

>>33074594
This here was the last straw that forced so many people to start calling Prof out on his antics.

>>33076330
Someone called a fictional character an SJW.

>>33076330
A few people are insulting Prof's character who thrives on poorly made arguments and who can't be argued against because Prof doesn't want anyone to argue against his character.

>>33076368
Well, compared them to; the agendas aren't really that similar.

While everyone's shitting on Ygg again, I'm still bothered by Rocket Mode.

Prof, what makes RM Ceru recognize something as a monster?

>>33076313
To us, no.
To Ceru, yes. And that's a disconnect between jaded players and the idealistic MC. To make the MC take the jaded players view without sufficient leading (ie. asking her about the fight again) is schizophrenia. We need a bigger reason to cut ties.
>The Araraki is accusing all of her friends at the Dome of being 'bad'.
ceru.exe attempting to understand arguments of friends arguing against friends...
fatal exception has occurred please reboot
>Which is a major point against the Araraki, who is not a friend. Just someone Ceru has known for two days in total.
Ceru called her a friend in-game.

>>33076415
I don't think he can actually tell us that since it's not something Ceru is cognizant of.

>>33076033
People shit on you because you don't want to think you're ever wrong.

>>33076330
Can you share that application?

>>33076335
We'veknown the Araraki a bit longer than that, and haven't seen our Dome friends for a while.

And with our dome friends, we know they can be a bit dodgy like Devon and Lilac

Here's the issue I'm having with 75% of the "What dos" for Ceru.

None of it is in context with who she is and what she thinks.

Ceru is

>Soft
>Friendly
>Dutiful
>Caring
And currently
>Shellshocked
>Is in constant pain.
>Suffering from recent trauma from nearly shooting someone who's only ever been good to her, and is a newly dear friend.

In any case, next post is almost done.
I'm going to have to start minimizing the window so I can write faster.

>>33076422
We've only known the Araraki for two days. There's no reason to have a strong emotional attachment to her. We approached her because she looked like she needed help. Possibly because we felt sorry for her race getting discriminated at too.

There's no reason why she should have any extra power in convincing Ceru of anything.

We also called her a friend IC because that's what we wanted to be with her. That does not mean she's suddenly more important to us than anyone else in our life or that she becomes more convincing.

>>33076282
the blame game solves nothing so just drop it

>>33076463
What do you think the "what do's" are?

Simply put, the core of the issue is how easily she's following whatever the Araraki has to say. Why? None of the things you've listed are reasons for why we should believe her.

I know you want to push hard for Ceru feeling bad about her "Rocket mode", but that has nothing to do with how she feels towards the people of the Dome.

>>33076463
I've been wondering why she doesn't seem to care much that she's been separated from her closest friends in the dome.

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>>33076432
We have enough information to know what makes it tick.

The problem is that the information contains a lot of contradictions and stupid implications I want sorted out.

Is Prof willing to help clear this up for me?

>>33076463
Shellshocked and in pain? Yes? What does that even mean in regards to Ceru feeling any doubts against the Dome? Rocket Mode? And she automatically believes the entire Dome is evil? Why she can't defend any of the people inside it?

You're being a huge bigot, Prof.

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>>33076491
>There's no reason to have a strong emotional attachment to her.
Since when was emotional attachments logical? Ceru's all about forming attachments. This was a flaw chosen by /tg/ at character gen.
>That does not mean she's suddenly more important to us than anyone else in our life
Yes.
>or that she becomes more convincing.
No.
>>33076551
The obvious solution is to fire back with an emotional appeal of our own.
>>33076601
It means her brain is tired of making logical arguments. Use emotional ones or go to bed.

>>33076463
Prof. Don't be a douche. That doesn't justify you forcing all of these 'developments'. You cannot honestly tell us that you're completely right and that Ceru can't ever think of anything else aside from what you've written without recognizing how horribly you're strangling the character, can you?

>>33076463

Lashing out violently is a possible reaction to so much stress. Remember Prof, the nicest people can be the worst people when they have a breakdown.

>>33076625
To clarify, I agree with
>That does not mean she's suddenly more important to us than anyone else in our life
and disagree with
>or that she becomes more convincing.

>>33076625
>Since when was emotional attachments logical? Ceru's all about forming attachments. This was a flaw chosen by /tg/ at character gen.
Our flaw is that we try to be peaceful at first.

That does not relate to the Araraki's ability to convince us of anything, but to her ability to hurt Ceru's feelings. You're not forced to believe everything your friends say, after all.

>>33076463
>Prof continuing to be a faggot

>>33076463
The thing is, that shouldn't make us willing to condemn EVERY person from the Dome, and the more you deny that, the angrier the players get as backlash because they feel they're being ignored.

>>33076463
Here's the issue I'm having with 100% of your justifications.

You keep acting like you're the only one ever allowed to interpret them.

Prof, there have been many times where I thought your characters were awkward or acting inappropriately. I overlooked them because I just enjoy the adventure. So let me tell you that you're not a perfect judge for characters.

>>33076463
Sure. Continue to ignore everyone's arguments. You ALWAYS do that. Every time you do something wrong, you never admit to making any mistake.

You never learn, Prof. Not even when people tell you as nicely as possible what you're doing wrong. All you ever think about is replying to the guys who shout and get angry at you with a stonewall face and a "reasons" that are supposed to justify everything you do.

>>33076659
Moelizard has the zeal of a person believing that they're doing this for Ceru's own good while being a friend to Ceru. That nets her a lot of points when mentally fatigued. We must strike back with an emotional appeal of our own.>>33076691
>that shouldn't make us willing to condemn EVERY person from the Dome
When have we considered that? We're having trouble thinking of ways to tell her she's wrong while being tired. Logic won't do it, therefore bring out an emotional appeal with the work Bruce and our mother are doing.

>>33076463
We've told her multiple times why we need to get back to the Dome, all she does is repeat her little mantra of the "glass city being evulz", at this point, you're just using her to inject your forced opinions on the playerbase. Also, on the previous fight, why the fuck include Rocket Mode as an option if you're just gonna make us burn Tenacity and back out after picking it? Did you just do it because "m-muh shounen super powered evil mode"? Fuck this bullshit.

Also, notice how he inconspicuously doesn't include
>in love with Jojo
on that post? Next comes his "justified" excuse of "he's the only native Ceru trusts ever since she's washed up on the island, also a foreigner, of course little teenage Ceru will fall heads over heels for him!" Fuck off with your forced pairing.

First you try to railroad us into staying on your islands instead of advancing plot and getting back to the Dome and now this?

>>33076751
WHY would it net her lots of points?

Again, all she can do is hurt Ceru's feelings. She can't convince her of anything. Especially not with how stupid all her arguments have been.

>>33076771
>why the fuck include Rocket Mode as an option if you're just gonna make us burn Tenacity
>Why include options that will get players killed in any game ever?
>>33076816
>Again, all she can do is hurt Ceru's feelings.
MUH FEELINGS is the main way to convince Ceru of anything, and she was built that way. This is why I stayed away from AOPH so long.

>>33076816
So how about we start crying because she's calling our Mom and friends evil and won't stop and we're too tired and in pain to form an argument?

>>33076852
>MUH FEELINGS is the main way to convince Ceru of anything, and she was built that way. This is why I stayed away from AOPH so long.
It's never been that way. All it does is net some sympathy, but no one has ever convinced Ceru to think of anything with just FEELINGS. In fact, it's only the Araraki who's been trying to convince us to think of anything.

>>33076771

You know we could simply have excluded JoJo and Nala from RM Ceru's vision, instead of wasting tenacity and cancel Rocket Mode.

Or, you know...not have slipped into Rocket Mode at all. That was an option too.

oh, hey look. we had a nice little streak there of actually thought out posts, and then back to people caling prof a shit and raging. wheee.

>>33076889
The argument that's getting people angry is that Ceru's being forced to think a certain way. FORCED. There is no reason why Ceru should have only thought that way, except that Prof FORCED it and is acting as if he's a perfect judge of character.

>>33076893
She came in after we nearly killed Jojo thanks to training from the Dome. MUH FEELINGS always helps people to convince or manipulate Ceru.

To fight MUH FEELINGS, we must counter with MUH FEELINGS.

>>33076463
God. You can be such a shithead, Prof. Such a whiny asshole.

>>33076918
Prof didn't give us an option to erase both Jojo AND Nala.

Unless there actually was an (Other) choice that I had forgotten.

>>33076938
No? No it doesn't? Saying that it's "always" been a thing doesn't actually make it true.

>>33076918
>>33076955
People assumed we could pay 4 and do both. Probably would have just ended with us out of commission for even longer, not that people were thinking of that at the time.

>>33076463
You really don't know how to gracefully accept when you're wrong, do you?

Everything was fine until you started "stonewalling" us. Gawd.

>>33076920
The worst part is in the last thread, no one fucking acknowledged that we had no business fighting the Nargacuga in the first place.

>>33077028
Because that was something you were forcing.

No, we had "business". Prof totally approved of it and considered it reasonable, if we "planned" well. Which we couldn't. Because he's shitty at fights.

>>33076984
>Boss every time
>Devon
Pretty sure I can come up with more.

Anyhow, moelizard is using Rocket Mode and emotional appeal to prove the dome is bad when we're tired and emotionally vulnerable, doing it with utmost efficiency. We need to counter that with emotional appeal of our own.

>>33076463
>>33077019
The worst thing about him is that he always runs away from arguments. All he can do is just post periodically to talk about how right he is and repost the same things people have already argued against and torn down. He's an ass.

>>33077064
We choose to follow Boss loyally.

I don't know why you brought up Devon. He's never convinced us to think of anything. Are you talking about going out of the Dome? We chose that ourselves.

Why are you so proud of yourself for coming up with such half-assed answers?

>>33077051
You're retarded. We made a plan, and it worked, because he had Nala hanging around out of pity.

You're just bitching that it wasn't flashy enough for you when we're lucky to be alive.

In this specific case, you're totally in the wrong.

>>33077130
You're retarded. We made a plan and it worked because we took advantage of what we were given. And Prof didn't give us much to begin with. And he was surprised that we didn't do much. You cannot keep ignoring Prof's own posts to suit your own needs. He fucked up.

>>33077130
It's not about flash, anon. It's about how poorly the fight progressed.

Prof never gave an opportunity for the fight to actually 'advance'. All his fights are like that, with 99% of the text basically portraying the monster as being completely fine and the last 1% having them be completely taken down from a perfect condition.

Multiple "new" readers here have commented on how bad Prof's fights are even before people started criticizing his writing harder.

>>33077110
>implying that we don't live in constant yearning of approval and dread of rejection from boss
>implying that Devon didn't play on our fears of him disrespecting our authoritah
I'm sure.

>>33077209
Those were our decisions, anon. We chose to think and act that way ourselves. We weren't forced into it.

Unlike what Prof has done now, taking the issue entirely out of everyone else's hands.

>>33077162
We got way more advantages than we deserved, considering the quality of our opponent.

I agree that he shouldn't have.expected us to do more, but that doesn't mean he should nerf our enemies.

>>33077288
No one was asking him to nerf our enemies. Everyone was telling him how bad his writing was for the battle that only simple decisions could be made.

>I agree that he shouldn't have.expected us to do more
Which relates to this. He did think we should have done more. We couldn't have done more because of his writing.

“Yeah, I'm tired Marine... But there is something I'd like to ask first...” You look to the Araraki, the dark of night penetrated by your feline eyes and the low light pouring out of the dugout.
“How do you live without harming the land? You have to do something to make a living right? Like the Kahkori and Smolder?”

The Araraki appears thoughtful to the question, her eyes focusing a bit hard, “We return. Give back. Only take what need. Some Araraki forget. We listen to elder.”

“But what if your elder's wrong? What if things have changed since those stories?”

“Have they?” The Araraki begins to leave, for the woods, threatening to disappearing into the same shadows that a narga-kage now burned and bloodied once crept within.

“Wait! I wanted to ask you where you went. What's that blood?”

The Araraki doesn't turn around, “We return in morning. We sorry.” As usual, her words are sincere. And again she's apologizing, but you don't know what for.

“If you don't tell me why you ran away, I don't think we can hunt anymore.”

The Araraki stops, “That fine. We find our own way home.”
She leaves into the wood alone, yet you feel like the bad guy. Why does she make you feel like the bad guy? You haven't done anything wrong... But you almost killed Jojo. You squeeze your left hand, biting your lip. What would you have done if you killed one of your friends again... Wait, again?

You feel Marine's hands move to pick you up, startling you out of your thoughts, “C'mon Ceru, you should get to bed. I'll stay up for her. I want to know why she left too but I can't really blame her.”

“But...” You protest with a whimper.

“But nothing Ceru! C'mon.”

Marine helps you inside, the pain and exhaustion wearing on you. Nala nods, acknowledging your presence, Kurojo's already asleep.

>>33077255
>We chose to think and act that way ourselves.
And thus you railroaded yourselves into making that a standard Ceru action, until something came along that would convince the character to never do that again.

Like, say, this incident.

Next hunt, when we're not going for an assassin monster, I propose we spend a while watching the thing, learning how it lives, and figuring out its weaknesses with probing attacks.

>>33077288
Why is it "more than we deserved"?

You keep ignoring the fact that it was Prof who said it was a battle that could be won. We didn't even know Nala would be with us.

You slide carefully into bed beside him, your eyes already pretty heavy as you lie down, staring up at Kurojo as he sleeps upright, sleeping soundly with a slight whistle carrying out from his breath.
If you'd shot him, he wouldn't be here right now.

Cerulean wants to curl up beside him, to get a bit closer. But guilt stops her action. No, she has no right to... Not without begging his forgiveness. He saw what she was about to do... He hasn't said anything to Nala or Marine either.

Her eyes close with pangs of regret, and she slips off into the world of dreams...

>>33077351
People have given multiple reasons why we wouldn't think the way Ceru did in this conversation. So no, we couldn't be forced

>>33077351
Anon, that doesn't have anything to do with the arguments here.

We chose to act that way. But it has no relation to why the Araraki should convince us to think of anything.

>>33077322
>>33077202
I feel as if the quality of the enemy makes our inability to do much perfectly logical.

You really think we should have been able to go toe to toe with the Nargacuga?

>>33077373

You're gonna take a lot of shit for thrid person. Even more...

Press on, Prod.

>>33077414
But that's irrelevant.

Prof said it was a winnable fight before Nala came.

Prof was also surprised that we didn't do much.

So both of your arguments have been contradicted.

>>33077373
Stop doing 3rd person, Prof. God. Even if no one supported you on that, you still went with it. You're just proving what people are saying about you not caring about anyone else's opinion.

>>33077427
Winnable isn't the same as "easy" or even "without casualties"
and by the point we were at, we should have known that prof does tend to slip into false reassurance when we're heading into things like this.

>>33077373
I suggest sticking a divider of some sort to signal perspective change.
>>33077377
>multiple reasons
>Logical reasons vs. an emotional appeal lovingly built on flimsy evidence
>which one has greater effect on a tired PTSD emotionally vulnerable teenage girl?
If you say the former, you are dense.
>>33077406
Our past behaviors were built on allowing emotional appeals to affect us. Past behaviors, future consequences.

>>33077373
>>33077452
Unless they kiss your ass.

>>33077452
more than a few people said to do it sparingly, just not all the time.

>>33077347
Okay, this part right here is unjustifiable. Making it so we don't have a chance to talk to the Araraki in the future, leaving her the winner?

And nice third person jackass.

>>33077457
>Our past behaviors were built on allowing emotional appeals to affect us. Past behaviors, future consequences.
Except this isn't true at all. You're just forcing it.

>>33077452

Might be RM Ceru surfacing.

>>33077491
One guy said that. But only now. Previously, no one supported it except when Prof brought it up again in this thread and stated his "reasons". And, obviously, someone has got to support his "reasons", otherwise he'll be undefended.

>>33077501

Woop de doo, that's what happens in a lot of quests. The araraki will disappear in the night and we won't be able to find her. This is no surprise.

But if we do meet her again, we push the bitch against the wall and don't let her speak back.

>>33077457
You're playing it up too hard. She's shaky and nervous, but that doesn't mean she can be made to believe some retarded argument. All you're doing is wording everything to be as biased as possible.

>>33077519
you know, if he just wants to do 3rd person, you can't really stop him short of just crashing the quest.

>>33077549
Nah. People can complain.

It works so well, considering how horribly it seems to affect his attitude.

>>33077373
I'm already thinking of reasons for why there's a switch to 3rd person here. God help me if I'm right, because it'd prove how much of a faggot you are, Prof. I don't want to see what lengths you'd go to just to justify your own improper behavior.

>>33077504
Hah.

The only times emotional appeal doesn't work is when we have utmost certainty in what we are doing is right, and launch an emotional appeal ourselves.
>>33077542
>but that doesn't mean she can be made to believe some retarded argument
Yes.

But what it does mean is that is that Ceru will sit down and listen to bitching that strikes her in one of her lowest moments. This is usually the part where the paladin falls.
>wording everything to be as biased as possible
Biased as what? Biased as in the fact that I'm bringing up teenagers and bad decisions?

>>33077541
Shut up. You stupid cunt , responding to her flawed arguments with violence is such an awful.response that I'd think you a troll.

That's pretty much guaranteeing she's right about everything.

>>33077584

Oh, please, enlighten us on what you think it is and how it's so evil for Prof to do it. Amuse us, please.

>>33077680
"Meta" is all I'll say.

>>33077426
Stick with the prod. Prod with the prod.

>>33077668

Wow, so angry and violent. Why don't you go and cool your head off for a few hours, bro?

I don't give a shit about the araraki's arguments anymore, I actually want her to die now. All I want is to know what the fuck she was doing during the fight and if she did steal the indexes, and she can fuck off (or die) and never show up again.

I really want her dead, but I won't pursue that, unless there is good reason for that.

>>33077584
What the fuck is your problem? These past two threads literally every post Ygg makes has some douche like you giving him shit. I understand criticism is important, but if you don't want to alienate both the qm and everybody else, you have to tone it down. He's clearly trying to be as gracious as possible, but how the fuck do you think someone's gonna act when you carry on like that? You accuse him of "improper behavior" ONE sentence after you call him a faggot?

Fuck.

>>33077687
What do rogue partial AI's in the equipment of one insane person have to do with this?

>>33077725
Shut the fuck up Devon.

Killing someone for saying things you don't like is retarded.

>>33077748
>clearly trying to be as gracious as possible
Barely. He's always like this.

>improper behavior
The insults escalated because of him.

>>33077839
Prof is a fucking prideful douche. He's NEVER admitted to making any mistake he's been accused of. No matter how many people are against him. He just ignores it all and retreats into himself like an asshole. His solution for anything is to forget it all and hope no one else brings it up.

And no one does bring it up. Until he makes a mistake again. And the process repeats because he's an idiot.

>>33077836

Ok, you didn't even read the entire post, did you?

>I really want her dead, but I won't pursue that, unless there is good reason for that.

>>33077839
>>33077854

And you just keep on and on about how bad he is, and just clutter the thread with hostile posts and etc. If he will ignore you anyway, then stop shitting the thread for those who don't have a stick int heir ass as big as yours.

>>33077899
Nah.

I can ignore Prof's fuck ups after the thread. But in the thread itself, there's no way. He'll be constantly told he's a shithead because he deserves it.

I've really lost the drive to participate. There's more than enough people to defend Ygg, and more than enough to give him shit. Nothing ever gets done because the arguements are poorly thought out and the main points are quickly forgotten in favor of vague claims and poor counter-arguements.

There IS a problem, but clearly, it's not going to be solved this way. Prof needs to discuss some things, but there's too many meaningless posts to find the ones to actually answer to.

If there's a point you agree to, do so, but don't add in things without thinking about what you're implying.

>>33077946
It's useless for Prof to "discuss" anything. He's "discussed" things before. The only thing left to do is for him to actually change.

>>33077921

It doesn't matter, you're just shitting the thread up because you're bitter now. Been 5 hours and we've had so little content because of all of this anger and spite.

I just want to continue the quest, but you guys just want to bully Prof.

Q&A thread some day maybe?

>implying it wouldn't just make things worse

>>33077946
just use ctrl+f on prof's secure trip jibble jabble

“You killed her.” A voice echoes from the dark, a silver room coming into view. A sparring circle like the one back in the dome. You don't think you've been here before... Pillars float with the pulse of psionic energy, fragmented and pulsing, revolving around an inner rod.
As the room lights up, the silver dust of the battle circle shimmering underfoot, you hear the voice again, “You killed her. You are dangerous, don't you see?”

You look down, and you see Alexis, young and pale hanging limp in your arms, frost forming at her mouth, eyes an icy blue. No pulse.

With a start, Cerulean nearly drops the body, only to clumsily catch it, her hands shaking with dread. “No... No... I... I didn't...”

“You killed her.” The voice echoes again.

Cerulean shakes her head, “No, no, no! She's still alive... Alexis is still alive.” She lays her down, and begin to perform life recovery procedures, yet as she pushes against her chest, her hands sink down, penetrating cold flesh with colder claws. Her blood beads and freezes, crackling as Cerulean pulls away with a panic.
“No... I didn't mean...” Cerulean begs tries to reason with the dream, yet she feels trapped under the weight of her own guilt.

“You are a monster. I'd have you remember that.” A hand touches her shoulder, and Cerulean spins around, tears falling from her face.

“No!” She screams, and there she sees Sabrina there with her always deadpan glare. An alabaster mask of human perfection, long purple hair falling over her shoulders in a hime cut.

>>33077969
Of course. Because he's a shithead. And he deserves it.

No one wanted to "bully" him until he made a mistake and refused to own up to it. Like always. It's happened enough times that it's just going to get worse since he doesn't understand how to accept his mistakes.

Sabrina slowly shakes her head to Cerulean, “Yes, you are the one that did this.” The woman places a hand on Alexis's chest, a psychic pulse sent through the girl's small frail body, bringing her back to life.
“You were made into a monster to destroy monsters. You are no longer a person, and you're better off not acting like it. It is no different from my son.”

Alexis takes a breath, a haggard cough to expel the cold. Cerulean breathes relief.

Alexis is alive... Alexis is alive... Alexis is...

Her hands find your throat, anger painted across her naked face,”You killed me... Monster... You...Mmmonster!”

No. No, I'm not... You gasps for breath...

>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis.
>[] Make her stop, she's hurting you.
>[] (Other)

>>33077990

Then just stop, your efforts won't matter at all.

>>33077986

AW SHIT

>>33078000
>[] Make her stop, she's hurting you.

>>33077969
It's because to them, there is no quest unless Prof acknowledged and concedes to their objections. Like the core argument is whether or not our suggestions actually mean anything, or if Prof is just writing a book.

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis.

Because it happened.

This is really a damatic thread now.

>>33078015
>Then just stop, your efforts won't matter at all.
Nah. They matter. They obviously hurt your feelings. Really, so few people actually tried to defend Prof. And now you're just begging for people to stop.

>>33078000
Deep Breaths.

>"I chose this path, and it up to me to keep myself in check. A monster is just someone who doesn't know who they are and what they do. Maybe, Maybe I if I can figure that out, I won't be a monster anymore..."

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis

Polemic!

>>33078000
>[] (Other)
Embrace her. Tightly.

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis.

Finally, time to make Ceru the perfect and cold killing machine.

>>33078000
>>33078050
>>33078054
These. Embrace her. Be tender with her. And explain yourself.

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis.

>>33078000
>[] Make her stop, she's hurting you.

Zombie!

>>33078000
Ooh. Seconding both of these.
>>33078050
>>33078054

>>33078000
>>[] (Other)
>"Sabrina made you try to kill me... Sabrina made me kill you... and I'm sorry..."

We apologize for killing her. We had no choice, it was circumstance.

>>33078000
[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis.

RESPONSABILITIES.

who gives a fuck about all this namby pamby emotion shit? when we gonna get back to butchering mofos and fucking shit up?

>>33078054
>>33078050
One of these.

Maybe start saying we're sorry.

>>33078000
>[] Make her stop, she's hurting you.

>>33078000
>[] (Other)
Embrace her. Tightly.

>>33078000
>>33078050
Go.

And hug her.

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis

Only good option. Grow strong (and jaded) Ceru.

>>33078000
>[] (Other)
Hug and
>>33078050

>>33078000
>[] Make her stop, she's hurting you.

knock it off lexi

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis
>[] Embracing is optional.

Actions have consequences, Ceru. Even if you want to be tender, you need to face what you did.

>>33078091
we just did that

>>33078000
These
>>33078050
>>33078068
>>33078083
>>33078092
>>33078101
>>33078120

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis.
Did we kill Alexis? Coulda sworn I remember her being 100% alive.

Eh, if it turns out we were hallucinating or some shit, I want to get it out in the open instead of living in denial.

>>33078000
>>33078050
>>33078054

>>33078000

these
>>33078054
>>33078050

>>33078085
Yeah this. Maybe bring up what Sabrina has done to Goldenrod back when he was human? And how she had her Espers kill a helpless child who did nothing but sleep and teleport, just to make her son less of a disappointment in her eyes.

I think now we learn some monsters wear human skin.

>>33078000
>>33078054
This.

>>33078050
That's autistic as fuck. You know prof's going to ignore that gor being out of character right?

Her emotional state and shit. She's not damn coherent to pull out a speech like that.

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis.

Hmm, not exactly sure what this option does, but I think that acknowledging her own actions and powers is always a good thing.
>>33078050

Hmm, what are you trying to say here?

>>33078151
The part before Alexis started strangling us is pretty much a faithful replay. We lethally attacked her and she would have died if Sabrina didn't revive her.

>>33078000
>>33078050
>>33078054
Go.

>>33078151
We briefly killed her in a heavily railroaded encounter, but Alexis wasn't such a bitch about it.

>>33078085

But that's wrong. Cerulean could very well not have killed Alexis, but we decided to use an Evil move and Frost Breath at point blank range. We could have pulled our punches, but we didn't.

That's just a poor attempt at shifting the blame to Sabrina.

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis

Did not expect this.

>>33078000
>>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis.

Cerulean, you evil, evil monster.

Uh...wait...is the araraki pulling some dickass dream shenanigans on Ceru?

>>33078244
They were ranked low and bought in the middle of the fight.

It was the same with our Water Gun, which barely phased our opponents at the same rank.

The assumption was that they were controllable moves. So it's Prof's fault. And Sabrina's fault.

>>33078186
>We chose to become a ranger
>We didn't mean to, but we "killed" Alexis
>We own up to our actions
>Ceru feels shit enough to consider herself a monster
>Ceru does not feel that there is no hope for her
>We need to grow up

should I have included this in the original choice?

>>33078000
>>33078050
This and a hug.

Question what a "monster" is.

>>33078303
It's a buzz word in-setting. It's got all sorts of meanings.

>>33078000
>[] Accept your fate, you killed Alexis.
But hug her anyway.

>>33078319
the hug vote is basically a modified "let her kill you" vote anyhow.

>>33078050
>>33078054
Just a hug. And resolve. What's a monster and all that shit.

>>33078288

But everyone was weaker, back then, and Alexis was fairly more human than Cerulean.

>>33078289

Hmm, fairly better than the write-in itself. Though it does sound like >Accept your fate; but with something more.

>>33078375
That's the thing. Prof made all of our actions weak. Except for that one moment when we finally got something "useful". Which Prof has made useless afterward (both Frost and Crossroad).

>>33078201
Alexis seemed to be trying to kill us after being tortured by Sabrina for the crime ofbeing hugged by a ranger.

This is a narrative that Sabrina has been forcing, because she has nothing left but her own lack.of mods.

>This thread

I'm agreeing with the critics on this one, the MC's personality is being railroaded.

Accept your fate
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>>33078053
>>33078064
>>33078074
>>33078086
>>33078112
>>33078133
>>33078151
>>33078186
>>33078259
>>33078283


Make her stop
>>33078017
>>33078078
>>33078096
>>33078123


Hug her(I'm going to make this an action regardless.)

Accept your fate wins.