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You are Lord William Bordain, Lord of Morderengrad and the Norther Valley. Some call you the Iron Lord, as your wealth flows from the arms and armor you sell, and your demeanor is as unflinching and cold as castle-forged steel. Other have taken to calling you “The Grey Giant”, in reference to your great size, less-than-warm demeanor, and your recent marriage to House Tollett of Grey Glen.

You are a Lord by right of Murder, having slain the Targaryen children in the Sack of King’s Landing. After years of solitary brooding, you decided to rejoin the greater world. You brought order to your lands, unveiled a traitor, and wedded the lady Alyssa Tollet, who now bears your child.

Which means that you have a legacy to forge for your future child. You will not leave your flesh and blood without care or resources, and so you have dived into the management of your lands and holdings, to procure a bright future for yourself and your children. But storm clouds darken the horizon. Tywin Lannister has asked that you seek to supplant Jon Arryn, your liege lord, as Hand of The King. Further, Oberyn Martell has crossed you, and this you will not let go unpunished.

When last we left off, you had recently been assaulted by bandits, who sought your mother for reasons unknown. You were entertained at the Eyrie, seeking to ingratiate yourself to the Lord Arryn. Petyr Baelish, Harbormaster, had proposed a new business venture. You hunted with your father and father in law, and you were just last night feasted and offered a business deal by your neighbor Benedar Belmore.
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>>33590373
ALL HAIL
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>>33590373

Page pls
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>>33590373
You return to your guest chambers, considering the lord's proposal: to merge your Gold Production with his Gem Production for making jewelry, allowing you to take advantage of his existing infrastructure, and him to avoid tariffs on imported Gold.

You enter your chambers, with a brief sense of disgust for Lord Belmore's mild extravagance Purple sheets? Really? The dye alone... At least your house colors were simple grey and black. Austere, some may call them, but you prefer "unadorned".

Your wife is brushing out her hair sitting on the bed. She glances to you as you open the door.

"They're not that extreme, William." She says, catching your expression. "His house colors, and the feast was no doubt meant to impress you. Everyone knows you're almost as big as the Hound, they would expect you to eat like it."

She pauses brushing for a moment. "Unless it's whatever Lord Benedar wished to talk about that gave you that look?"

>Answer
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>>33590373

Yeah!
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>>33590529
Sorry on the delay, everyone, both in terms of what day I would run (It turned out there were like, 3 birthdays that week) and what time I would run (The reporter thought it would take an hour or so to do our interview. We went for 1 and a half, and have another set up for some time next week. I can talk up a goddamn storm.)
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>>33590529

>"Just the drapes. I never was much for frilly things: better left to girls. I suppose you love it? We'll have to take them back with us."
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>>33590529

Consult with her about the business proposal, get some good counsel
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>>33590529
The choice of sheets are just a bit...much.
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>>33590529
"Just the sheets, I can understand occasional excess in feasts."

And then tell her about our conversation with him, and the deal he proposed what with the gold and gem production. Get her opinion and counsel on it.

It seems like a generally good idea, there's a lot of extra value from turning gold and gems into jewelry, and setting up the infrastructure ourself would take a lot of time and money.
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>>33590529

>"His proposition for a join venture for making jewelry has some merit. I am just...not at all comfortable with the man. Do you know if your father made bushiness with him in the past?
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Less of this >>33590646 more this >>33590704
and >>33590820

She has live in the Vale all her life she should have a better understanding of Belmore than us. Which could help us in our negotiations.
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Can someone post a link to the archives
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>>33590704
>>33590646
>>33590700
>>33590820


"Just the sheets. Purple is a bit much." You say as you undo your doublet, and seat yourself on the excessive linens in question
"And the Drapes are too frilly for my tastes. If you like them, we can steal them on the way out, however" Your wife snorts. You remember her house colors are even darker than yours. Her house probably looked like it was in mourning for most of the year.

"I can understand excess in feasts, however," you continue, groaning as you lay back on the sheets. They were soft, if ludicrously expensive.

"And his proposal?" Your wife nudges your exposed stomach, provoking a twinge.

"He proposed a joint venture for making jewelry. Our gold, his jewels and jewelers. We avoid building infrastructure he's already got in place, and we both profit. It seems like a good idea, but I'm not exactly...comfortable with the man. As you noted earlier, most of our talks before now were shouts and accusations. Did Lord Tollett ever do business with him?"

Your wife lays back, laying her head on your stomach. She hums to herself in thought. You run a hand in her hair, as she contemplates.
"We really don't have much he wants, other than lumber. I can tell you my father called him a poppinjay, and then a 'plumpinjay' when he... grew. Which is a bit hypocritical coming from my father, but that's neither here nor there. He said Belmore was like some southron Lords, or young Vale lords: he cares about looks over truth, and doesn't keep a tight rein on his seconds. On the other hand, they're also called the Lannisters of the Vale, they're that wealthy, and I can't think of any time someone accused him of shortchanging them. He may forget to send your share of a particular load, but he wouldn't steal or spend it. He'd just move it somewhere to get it ready to send to you, and then then send it when he found it again. Though, after the trouble with you, he's probably better about that."
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>>33590820
>It seems like a generally good idea

True although I could like to avoid becoming too dependent on him. Lets just be careful with the fine print of the deal.

Additionally we should really focus our efforts back home into further integrating the Hill tribes. Keep them nice, happy and prosperous to the point of not wanting to back to how they were before.
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>>33591164

Stupid comment limits

"Do you have to decide now, My Lord?" She asked, turning her head to look up at you,
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>>33590529
>Answer
"Considering the mans girth, I wonder if that feast wasn't normal."

Tell her about the gold/gem deal. Ask her advice on the subject.
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Page update your Twitter.
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>>33591224
"Not at all, he asked me to think on it and consult my maester and businessmen."

Also kiss our wife.
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>>33591224

I dunno, do we have to decide now?

It seems like a fairly sound deal and he won't be eager to cheat us
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>>33591300
I have little to no understanding what that means. Should I tweet that we're going?

>>33591334
He said to consult whoever we wanted to consult, he specifically noted we did NOT have to decide now.
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>>33591377
yes please, with a link to the thread.
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>>33591224
Not now, but I would think he would want an answer soon
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>>33591405
On it. I'll remember it in the future. This happens a lot in my real life, too. I just assume people know what I know.
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>>33591175
I'm in favour if it for now. The biggest selling point for me is taking advantage of existing infrastructure.

We've already got a few projects running back home and a dozen more that anons want to start in the future.

Doing this ourself means either waiting a few years for other projects to be finished, or delaying all other projects months while this is being set up.

Partnering with Bellmore lets us skip straight to the money making.
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>>33591327
"Not at all, dear, he asked me to think on it and consult with my maester, and my businessmen. Right now, you're my head businesswoman."
You lean down and kiss her, groaning again as you lie back.
"Gods, with that man's girth, I wonder if that meal wasn't typical."

Your wife snorts again "Unlikely. There'd be no crops within two leagues." She sidles up, alongside you instead of perpendicular. "Well, then, I say it sounds smart. We can ask Arban and the others when we get home. Until then, put it from your mind. What's next, my lord? I know you want to see the Lynderlys, and you're not exactly a patient man, but we should spend at least another night here, to avoid insult."

>response
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>>33591224
>>33591334

I am in favor of the deal, so as long we maintaining reasonable control in the influx of the gold. We still should consult with our maester and check the output of the mine as well rates in which we should be doing the exchanges. Not to mention the routes and security involve. Still I think we should tell Belmore that we are favorably incline to his proposal.
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>>33591573

What was out objective in dealing with the Lynderlys? Something about littlefinger's proposal right?
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I remember before the pause in the quest, other Lords in the Vale were getting seriously ancy about our military build up.

If we continue to scare the shit our of our neighbours with our ever growing Legion of Doom, it's only a matter of time before the Lord of the Vale has to step in and order us to cut that shit out.

A method of avoiding that, while still increasing our forces and making a profit at the same time is mercenary work.

We could hire some of our boys out as mercs. If we keep a suitable portion of our forces away on campaign at any one time, no one would even know how many troops we have. And our neighbours would stop shitting themselves because of the troop build-up on their boarders.

Thoughts, opinions?
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>>33591573
We should stay the night but depart first thing in the morning. Send a raven or something to tell them we are coming
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>>33591573
>we should spend at least another night here, to avoid insult."

"I will need at least a day of rest to recover from that feast. But after that, yes, we should visit the Lynderlys."
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>>33591573

Follow the wife's advice and spend the minimum amount of time to not insult the guy.
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>>33591646

Not a bad idea, leading out small part of our forces to those that needed it. But not many lords will accept those offers without being desperate or in dire needs. It is to those few lord that we should extend a hand in their moment of need. I could still prefer if we keep our numbers as they are and focus just on improving the quality.
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>>33591630
Yes, Littlefinger's plan requires you trust the Lynderlys to ship your weapons, and you decided to visit them, to see if you could trust them.

>>33591646
I will note nothing other than that you just recently employed a Pentoshi merchant, who could negotiate such work in the Free Cities.
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>>33591573

Spending another night for manners sake. We don't want to insult him now that we are trying to put our previous troubles with him behind us.
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>>33591646
>>33591782

Hmm, how quickly could we recall our "mercenaries" from the Free Cities?
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>>33591782
>Pentoshi merchant, who could negotiate such work in the Free Cities

Great, one question I know we sell many weapons to the Free Cities who are our biggest buyers?
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>>33591782
We should talk to our commanders, get their opinion on the matter, but I like the idea.

Gold. Increased military. Making valuable political ties and maybe earning some favours. All while avoiding political problems from home regarding our army.

Try and find out if and Westeros Lords are suffering from raiders, wildlings or anything else. They would probably offer more political capitol if we helped them out. Failing that, look towards the Free Cities.
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>>33591883
Not quickly. Travel time would be measured in months.

We should only keep a portion of our forces away at any one time.

I had the idea of sending away a third of our troops, raising new units until our army is the size it was. Then, when out mercs are due to return, we send away half of our troops on a new job.

Our neighbours would see a reduction in local troops while our army still grows.
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>>33591949

The Greyjoy Rebellions haven't happened yet, correct?

If the Ironborn return to raiding, then this could provide lucrative opportunities for our mercenaries.
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>>33591887
Why that sounds like a very good question for your ACCOUNTANT, who you also hired like, 2 months ago.

>>33591883
That will take me some time to compute, but it looks like it's around 300 miles between Braavos and your lands.

>>33591830
>>33591727
>>33591715

"Fine, one more night" you yield. "Besides, I don't know if I could ride tomorrow after that feast."

The next day, Lord Belmore asks how you'd like to spend the day. He notes that you could see the jewellers in his lands. He also says his nephew would like a chance to train with the famous William Bordain. Or a brief hunt, perchance? Or some other festivity?

>See the Jewelers
>Train with his nephew
>Hunt
>Other
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>>33592032

Lets keep the metagame at minimum. Lets try to find local opportunities first before turning to the free cities.
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>>33592032
I've been WAITING for the Greyjoy rebellion.

We'll fucking cash in with that.
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>>33592066
>>Train with his nephew
It gets us good with his family
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>>33592066
>See the Jewelers

It's relevant to our decisions, we should have a look.

Let's not potentially sour relations by smacking around his nephew. We don't realy play gentle.
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>>33592066
>See the Jewelers
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>>33590373
WHAT This is back!?!? When huh!?! I remember being in the first thread for this
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>>33592066
>ACCOUNTANT
Yes, vote to speak to him along with our generals, one we get back.
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>>33592066

>Train with his nephew

If he is young enough Belmore could be trying to set him up as our squire, which could pretty nice actually.

>"I could love to train with the lad. Tell me about him has he yet to earned his stripes or he a knight already?
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>>33592066
COMPUTATION COMPLETE

Alright, going off the vague scale we have (namely, that the Wall is 300 miles wide, you live about 930 miles from Braavos, or 810 nautical miles, which, a quick check of medieval ship speeds tells me that, in non-ideal conditions, you can make about 50-70 miles per day (in a carrack, cogs are slower, caravels faster). SO about a week to sail from your lands to Braavos, with another week back.
So at least 2 weeks to recall them, assuming they were still in Braavos.

And I was literally not reading posts while doing that, so give me about 7 minutes for the next write up.
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>>33592712
damn it. Got my math mixed up. (I forgot weeks weren't base 10)
At BAD speeds, it would take 16 days to get to Braavos. Assuming a carrack. On a Good run, you could do it in 11, and if you sent a faster ship, you could do it even quicker.

>>33592149
>>33592165
>>33592169
>>33592376


You decided a bit of morning training with the nephew before you go to the Jewelers isn't out of order.

rolling combat...(19 versus 11)

From the beginning, it was clear who would win this, of course. If you met him the field, the boy wouldn't even be able to overcome your armor. Meanwhile, you'd take him apart. However, your control of the battle is sufficient to give the boy instruction while you spar, and (rolling etiquette...13) you do so without losing your temper or insulting him. The boy favors the axe, which is enough like your pick that your training is quite helpful to him.

POINTS WITH BELMORE.
POINTS WITH MARWYN, LATER CAPTAIN OF THE EYRIE GUARD (maybe)

With that, you go to observe the Jewellers of Strongsong. You find men that seem...strange to you. Their precision and skill is similar to, but unlike your own smiths'. These are men who take as long to cut gold and ruby into a ring as it would take you to forge, shape, and temper a blade. The sheer miniscule scale of their work makes your fingers itch.

Where do you spend most of your attention?
>The masters, crafting the intricate pieces, and the 'true gems'
>The journeymen, working on designs and cheaper gems
>The apprentices, who make the small pieces, for the smallfolk. Garnet, so on
>The shops and vendors, where the goods are ordered, or picked out by passerby, or delivered to lords, who wish to inspect their purchase before they depart for their homes.
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>>33593082
>>The journeymen, working on designs and cheaper gems
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>>33593082
>>The shops and vendors, where the goods are ordered, or picked out by passerby, or delivered to lords, who wish to inspect their purchase before they depart for their homes.
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>>33593082
>>The shops and vendors, where the goods are ordered, or picked out by passerby, or delivered to lords, who wish to inspect their purchase before they depart for their homes.

Here we will learn what we want.
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>>33593082
>The shops and vendors, where the goods are ordered, or picked out by passerby, or delivered to lords, who wish to inspect their purchase before they depart for their homes.

The craft side of it won't mean much to us. It's the business side that's relevant to our decision making.
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>>33593082
>The shops and vendors, where the goods are ordered, or picked out by passerby, or delivered to lords, who wish to inspect their purchase before they depart for their homes.

I'd guess that jewelry is mostly a luxury for the extremely wealthy merchants and/or lords, whereas the cheaper jewelry is mostly there for apprentices to hone their craft. Marketing, on the other hand, can be applied to anything.
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[/spoiler]Just finished reading the archives of House Karban. Did Princly get claimed by the others?[/spoiler]

[/spoiler]Will we ever have a Hot Dornish Wife?[/spoiler]
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>>33593438
I suck at spoilers
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I'm interested in this quest and would like to start from the beginning.
In the archives the 1st one seems to continue something already started.
Can anyone provide a link to where these quests began?
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>>33593438

As far as I know, PrincelyOP had a job that was closely tied to politics. The last time that he posted, he said he was going to be busy due to it being an election year.

My guess is that either his work never stopped or that he just simply lost interest after life stuff.
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>>33593517
It actually began as another house if I remember right it has been a long long time since I have seen this quest
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>>33593438

I have my suspicions that Princely is actually Obama or someone that works directly with him since he told us his work as related to politics and he disappear after the election and he never saw him again. Hopeful we will see him again once his term ends.
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>>33593517
Yeah, it changed title after the 9th thread.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=knock+off
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>>33593316
>>33593207
>>33593179

You decide to view the Shops, wanting to see how the goods are sold, how the transactions are handled. You end up in the shop of one Alek Roilwater. You're slightly surprised, as the man is almost of a level with you. A hand over six foot if he's an inch. Tall, but where you are broad as a barn door, he seems almost stork-like in his height. He has something of a stoop, no doubt to intimidate his customers less. His voice is, however, is quite notable, a bass note you wouldn't associate with a man of his thinness, and he raises it to call across the room frequently. You suspect, from this and his skin, that he was once a stall merchant, probably from Dorne. He seems quite certain of his new position, however, with a cool professionalism behind his words, and a slight sneer in his voice when he talks to those who look less than well-off. He still makes several sales, including a simple silver bracelet, for a farmer's wife.

He turns to you after the sale. "The trick, my lord, in this trade, is to have some distance. People want happiness from their fruit merchant, their seamstress. From a jeweller, they want skill, which they believe comes with disdain. So, you act like you don't care, and you explain how well made your goods are, and they say to themselves 'well, he sounds certain.' and so it is done."

He thinks on something. "Come see this, my lord."

Even to you, his tone is of one who expects to be followed, though you suspect that is to maintain his appearance in his shop. You walk to one end of his shop, and find...

Well, that's a nice piece. Your men were smiths. They could work their metal well, but this...you knew iron jewelry existed, but here was a beautiful sword. Onyx in the hilt, gold flourishes, but notably under the metal crossguard, where their softness did not endanger the wielder. The blade was clear and sharp, and the Alek brought it down for you.

(cont)
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>>33593745

"Is it not familiar, my Lord?"

You study the piece, and, with a nod from Alek pick it up.

As soon as your hand touches it, you know this sword. This is your iron. You forged this, personally. One of your practice swords, perhaps, or a project you used to vent frustration. This was of your land, your hand.

"Ah, I see you do," Alek said, quietly. "One of the first pieces we got from your lands. We decorated it, of course. But, my lord, I wonder if you might do me a favor?"

At your silent gaze, he continues: "You are becoming a man of some renown, my lord. You who laid low the Stormchild, who is as hard as the metal you forge, tamer of the wild men. This piece has lingered here some time. If you would make your personal mark upon the blade, it would help me to sell it. Or, if not, and you took the blade, it might lead to more traffic for my shop."

You note he never directly asked you to do it, but it's clear he waits on your answer.
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>>33593890

Let's take the blade!
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>>33593890
put the mark on
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>>33593890

Indulge him and make our mark.
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>>33593890
>One of your practice swords, perhaps, or a project you used to vent frustration.

Is this a quality blade? Because 'practice sword' or 'something used to vent frustration' sounds more like some cheap crap we hammered out in an afternoon.

Don't put our personal mark on something like that. That's TERRIBLE advertising. People will see the low quality of the blade and all the fancy gold decoration and thing we produce flashy pieces of shit. Decorative swords to be hung on walls.
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>>33593890
Make sure the blade itself is functional.
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>>33593890

I think I'm gonna have to agree with these guys:

>>33594153
>>33594257

Inspect the sword first. If it isn't up to snuff, then putting our mark on it may leave a bad impression on the people browsing the store.
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>>33594153
>>33594257

The sword is of fine quality. Even if you personally had not finished the sword to proper make (which is, at present, out of character for William, regardless of the reasons he started the project) your smiths would have never sold it if it did not match Morderengrad quality.

(sorry on the delay, I hit backspace in the captcha, and it ate the post.)

I'll wait to see your votes before proceeding.

(NOTE: A big Summer Thunderstorm has picked up in my area, if I suddenly vanish for 45+ minutes, I may have lost power.)
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>>33594380
Hey Page long time no see!
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>>33594380

I still say we take the sword. Shiny expensive things and whatnot.

I don't want to put our mark on it
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>>33594380
>The sword is of fine quality

Oh, good. The term 'practice sword' made me think it might be one of the crappy pig-stickers we give the noobs to practice with.

You don't waste quality weapons on new recruits swinging at training posts.

Mark the weapon then.
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>>33594452
Hey Emp.

I keep meaning to email all the ones I have to see if anyone's still interested, but then my schedule gets eaten alive.
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>>33594520
I thought this died a long time ago it's good to see it still lives
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>>33594550
We had a long break, just came back like, two weeks ago.
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>>33594380
Well then why not.
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>>33594719
Alright, by my count, "mark the blade" wins, though "why not" to a multiple choice question is UNHELPFUL. ( I kid.)

You nod. "Well, if they wish to know it was of my hand, I feel no shame for it. Bring me a stamping tool."

A few minutes later, your mark is stamped into the blade, and it resides once more on Alek's wall.

"A thousand thanks, noble Lord," he says. "The quality of my lord's metals and craft is gaining renown swiftly. No doubt soon to bear the mark of Morderengrad will raise the price of an item dearly."

That tidbit aside, you return to Lord Belmore's home, where again you feast. A simple affair, compared to the extravagance of last night. A mere 4 courses, with a first course of pumpkin soup, a second of bread, vinegar, and oils, a main course of venison haunch, from which you flinch ever so slightly, to your wife's amusement, and a final course of sweet-jam omelette.

Fed, and rested, you prepare to ride out the next day. How do you bid your host farewell?
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>>33594962
We should ask him to come to our castle to view our smithies
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>>33594962
Thank him for the hospitality, offer to host him in the future. Just send a raven if you want to visit.

Oh, tell him we're visiting the Lynderlys next, ask if he wants us to pass a his regards or anything.
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>>33595206
Yeah that sounds good.
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>>33594962

>"Next time we meet, I could like to feast you and share my hospitality with you my lord. Rest assure I am most favorably incline to your proposition and will soon that we made more concrete dispositions."
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>>33595241
>>33595206
>>33595131

You incline your head to Lord Benedar.

"My lord, thank you for your wonderful hospitality. You must come to Morderengrad some day, and see our smithies. Send a raven when the mood takes you, and I swear we will return today's kindness."

"No trouble at all, Lord William." Belmore proclaims.

"I assure you, I am favorably inclined to your proposition, and once I return home, we shall make more concrete decisions. As it stands, I must now to the Lynderlys, have you any message for them?"

Belmore considers for a moment.

"No, though you can pass my greetings on to Gregor and his son Jon."

"I shall, my lord."

And with those words, you departed. It was quite a few days to the Lynderlys.

ROLL FOR TRAVEL d100
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>>33595334
Your tenses are messed up.
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Rolled 71

>>33595538
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Rolled 32

>>33595538

Can't remember what is good or bad for travel. Oh well, here goes.
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Rolled 72

>>33595538
Who will we kill on the road this time?
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>>33595538
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>>33595643
Yeah pretty sure I fucked that one up...
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Rolled 26

>>33595662
don't capitalize the d in dice
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Rolled 53

>>33595538
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>>33595687
welp don't i feel dumb...
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>>33595548

Yeah, I write like a retard late at night. Sorry.
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>>33595625
The trip passes...ALMOST UNEVENTFULLY.

BUN DUN DUN!!!!!!!!!!

There's a boar in the road.

It appears to be eating...a saddle? That'll end well.

WHAT DO?
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>>33595799
Kill it duh
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>>33595799
Kill Boar, obtain Saddle, Mourn the fallen
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>>33595799
Shoo off/kill the boar and inspect the saddle.

Any recent tracks? Also, I assume our guards are constantly watching the surrounding area, so.... Have them continue watching out for stuff.
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>>33595849
Mourn the Fallen? That's a little out of character
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>>33595799

Tell Egar and another four of our Bloodsmiths to kill the beast. Once its dead see where the saddle came from.
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>>33590373
>PAGE, YOU LATE BASTARD
No, page you glorious bastard. I had forgotten this quest was running. If you hadn't posted now, I would have likely never remembered. I'll catch up and get the next thread.
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>>33595932
Yeah, might as well delegate.

Could serve as a gift for the Lynderlys?
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So, kill it yourself, or just have the Bloodsmiths handle it?
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>>33596157
bllodsmiths
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>>33596157
Smiths.
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>>33596157

Bloodsmiths, spears and arrows. Tell them we dine on boar tonight.
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>>33596157
Bloodsmiths
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>>33596312
>>33596178

Goddamn it, 3 threads and no one wants to have any combat. Friggin', make me write speeches and shit... SIGH

You call out to Egar: "Captain, Take it out, if you please. Bows and Spears. Caution, and I want to have some boar for dinner!"

The ensuing bloodshed is brief, but fierce, and in the end, the boar...(rolling) lies dead.

That night, you cook up some boar steaks, and feast on the side of the road.

Speaking of, I've not eaten today, and we've been going about 4 hours, so this is about my halfway point, so I'd like to take a 30-409 minute dinner break.

I'll be near my computer, so any ideas or discussion, I can chime in on, but give me a bit to refuel before we meet the Lynderlys.
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>>33596625
Would've laughed by ass off if the boar had beaten our party
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>>33596678
MAKE THIS BOAR ARMOR. HE IS REPLACING THE FALLEN
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>>33596625
>30-409
Oy vey!
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>>33596728
Behold, the MURDERBOAR!
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>>33596625

What about the saddle? Did we found the horse and rider?
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>>33596812
It's the murderboar for a reason...
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>>33596625
I'm sorry but what was their proposal with us? Was it about Littlefinger's plan for expanding the river?
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>>33590373

Oh shit, this is tonight.
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>>33597058
If I remember right, it's about shipping our steel. They have a dock and decent merchant fleet.

I think. May be thinking of someone else.
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>>33597058
our wife shot that down with the simple wha about the fish, and the people that eat the fish argument
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Has anyone archived this yet?
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>>33597603

Nope, but no need to rush unless you are afraid of misarchival.
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>>33597058
To essentially set up a relay of ships, rather than personally sailing your ships to Gulltown/other wider ports.

>>33596678
Unlikely, but it would indeed have been hilarious.

NOW BACK TO THE STORY.

After several more days of travel, and a brief search for a rider or horse to go with the partially devoured saddle, which turns up little, (Though, given HOW little it turns up, either that boar had been wandering for at least a mile, slowly eating the saddle like jerky, or the rider and horse escaped, somehow leaving the saddle behind.) you come to the castle Snakewood.

Snakewood, seat of the Lynderlys, is impressive, without a doubt.

From what you hear, Lord Gregor is not a man to be surprised.

How will you present yourself to the Lynderlys?
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>>33597735
>How will you present yourself to the Lynderlys?

Polite, friendly but reserved.

Basically we're willing to be allies and maybe friends but we're not going to be loud and ecstatic over it.
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>>33597735

Polite and as friendly as we can genuinely muster
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>>33597735
Be respectful in your greeting. Be straightforward. It's what we are known for, apart from the rumors.
See how he looks and acts.
Worried, angry, ect.
I'm wondering about that boar eating a saddle, and I would be surprised if it wasn't at least slightly relevant.
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>>33591646
Hm well good to see the previous idea I had regarding that same thing is being reconsidered where previously it was denied. Plus i wasn't the only one who thought of it.
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>>33597841
>>33597825
>>33597780

You ride into the bailey of the castle, and dismount. As you do so, Lord Gregor emerges. He's...not quite what you expected. The man is...plump. Not quite fat, yet. His skin is tanned, from long days in the sun. His chin is slightly weak, and his mustache is almost all white, though his hair, cut short, is still almost totally brown. He walks sedately. In no hurry to greet you, but certainly not insulting you. He nods his head to you, and greets you reservedly.
"Lord William."
"Lord Gregor, thank you for meeting with me. I wished to meet the man I'm to trust with my metal, assuming we go forth with Littlefinger's plan."

Lord Lynderly rolls his eyes.

"Ah yes, the plan. My son and Littlefinger are quite pleased with themselves. I'm willing to give it a try. I can't see how it will fail."

You pick up that Lord Gregor is not as excited about the idea as Littlefinger.

A boy exits the castle, and there's some resemblance. But where the father is groomed and tidy, the boy is...less so. His hair is shaggy, and, though you swear the boy can be no older than 16, he bears a beard of several inches length. He glances over your party, his eyes lingering on your wife and...you swear he eyed Egar's warhammer. Then, he returns to the book he was reading as he exited.

"My Lord William," Gregor announces "may I introduce one of the inventors of our plan, a boy likely to bankrupt me should he desire MORE books this year, and a boy asking to be SENT TO THE MAESTERS IF HE DOESN'T GREET OUR GUESTS."

The boy barely glances up at his father's raised voice and sarcastic tone.

"If you're willing to bet your line on the idea that you can still, medically, father a son, you're welcome to try, father. But I suspect you're bluffing, to try and shame me before Lady Alyssa and Lord William. Lord, Lady, forgive my father. His dotage is swiftly approaching, and soon we will have to, like the Wildlings north of the wall, push him out into the ocean"
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>>33598546
i hate this kid already
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>>33598546
Your initial conclusion: The boy is bright, and the two share a relationship unusually sarcastic for a lord and his heir, but the father seems willing to humor the boy.

"Since my father seems to have forgotten manners, my lord, might I invite you in, to taste of our bread and salt, so you don't suspect us of plotting your imminent murder? OR would you prefer to spend a few hours riding the razor's edge, doubting our every move? I hear you like a little danger in your life."

Lord Gregor casually smacks his son in the back of the head.
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>>33598546
Damn, we've got a sassy neckbeard. I like him!
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>>33598616
>reaction?

>>33598593
You would not have enjoyed 2006 in my house.
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>>33598616
"Well, I do enjoy a good evening of intrigue and murder. But if I killed you all, who would ship my steel? Best we have the bread and salt. I can murder you on my next visit after the business deal is in place."
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>>33598616
Sarcastic little fuck, isn't he.
I'm unsure if I like him yet. It IS refreshing to see such a blunt point of view. I'd think hes like we would have turned out, had we been unable to control our own life.
also
eyeing edgar's War-hammer, or Edgar's "war-hammer"?
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>>33598678
Second this seems like us
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>>33598695
The former. He is a Lord's son, he probably has combat training.

>>33598703
>>33598678
"Well..." you ponder, drawing it out. "I do enjoy a good evening of intrigue and murder. But if I killed you all, who would ship my steel?" You shake your head sadly. "Best we have the bread and salt."

As your host turns to lead the way, you perk up. "I can always murder you next visit, after the deal is in place!"

Jon Lynderly snorts a laugh, as his father lets out a few barks of laughter. Or maybe they're squeaks. The man's laugh is higher pitched than his speaking voice.

As you head into the castle, your wife perks up.
"Lord Gregor?"

"Yes, Lady?"

"Where is Lady Nance?"

"Taking charge in the kitchen, Lady Alyssa."

The boy chimes in again.

"Dad never liked the idea of a head cook. Thought it made no sense, why pay someone just to be in charge in a house he was already in charge of?"

Another casual blow to the boy, this one swatting his gut. It clearly doesn't really hurt as the boy just keeps talking, though the slight wheeze tells you he hit the boy's diaphragm.

"Beesidez, hmm. He figures if someone's going to poison him, it may as well be his wife. She at least has some legitimate complaints against him."

The boy and his father share a smile, before the boy's eyes dart back to the book he's reading. And you realize that the entire time he was speaking, his eyes never came up. The boy's been making all these quips without diverting his attention. That takes a moderately quick mind.

You enter into a dining hall. And where the Belmore home was all dark wood and soft cushions, this room speaks of...older times. The walls are the great stone bricks one expects of old castles. The lighting is a chandelier of antlers, over a darkwood oval table. The floor is smooth stone, with several bear pelts across the floor. Two younger boys run around the room, Lord Gregor's other sons.

(cont)
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>>33598996
The larger is maybe in his 14th year, but likely his 13th. And his frame is tough where his brother's is broad. This boy probably trains everyday, beyond what is expected of him. His eyes, like his father, are dark brown, his face full of smiles.

The little one is around 10 if you guess correctly. And his hair is lighter than any of his brothers or his father. And where his eldest brother is big, and his middle brother hard, this one looks...twiggy. Yes, he's active, and scrambling, but the boy is thin for his size. Though given how quickly he runs across the room to his father, maybe it's more a matter of him burning his fuel too quickly.

The little one slams into his father, with an audible thump, and begins badgering his father with questions about the new guests, how long are they staying, who's the pretty lady, why does she look like mother, and on and on.

Jon, meanwhile, ignores the interrogation of his presumably younger brother, and crosses to a side chair to the room, and sits down, again, all without looking up. Including snapping a rude hand-sign to his middle brother, who sneered as he passed, and stuck out his leg in a pantomime of tripping him.

"Lord William, my sons. May the Mother take pity on you you never have so many."

"Are they here?" a voice calls from the side room.

"Yes, dear!" Gregor calls out.

And Lady Nance enters the room. You immediately see what her son meant. Lady Nance looks like she could be Lady Alyssa's mother, or older sister. Her long dark hair falls past her shoulders, and she moves with a similar grace. She steps out of a side room.

"It'll be just a moment, my lord and lady. If SOMEONE will help me in here!"

At their mother's snap, you see the three boys exchange looks, a silent conversation passing in maybe 2 seconds, before Jon sighs, closes his book, and exits after his mother.

"Forgive me, my lord, we are not so big on the idea of 'lordly graces' here."
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>>33598996
>>33599185

Are they family? She never told us anything about that/
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>>33599185
Not big on lordly graces?
That begs the question...
Are we like that?
I mean, we demand respect, and earn it, as well as our demeanor screams Lord
But on the other hand, we hate opulence and usually are sarcastic or straight to the point.
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>>33599251

You glance at your wife briefly, who looks at you, and shrugs.

You quickly turn your attentions back to Lord Gregor.

"No worries, my Lord, I am similarly easygoing with my captains, no doubt your family is similarly free."

"No matter how I try to control them. Three boys, all becoming men. Oh, that reminds me. The one who actually stood on protocol" he says, pointing to his middle son "Is Stefon. This bundle of energy is Nat."

You have a few minutes before dinner is ready. Do you
>speak with Lord Gregor (if so, about what?)
>greet Nat (how)
>greet Stefon (how)


>>33599449
Lord Gregor runs his house like he's a small-town headman, or well-off merchant. In every action you've seen, there has been a feel of a loving family, welcoming new guests to their home, but not hiding their eccentricities. Your demeanor, on the other hand, is of a ex-military man.

It's a matter of too much information/familiarity, versus too little, and focus on formality.
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>>33599530
>Your demeanor, on the other hand, is of a ex-military man.

Then we should present ourselves as such. No reason to be belittling. Introduce ourselves and our wife to his sons and all that before getting down to business with Lord Gregor.
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>>33599530
>>33599733
Backing
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>>33599530
Speak with lord Gregor. If his sons wish to associate with us, they will prove they can speak, first.
Side note-
Damn it page, you keep talking about food/meat, and I'm starving.
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>>33599837
(if so, about what)
Right, forgot that bit.
Talk about the boar we found, and what he thinks of his neighbors, particularly how flashy they appear.
Nothing gets mouths moving like gossiping about others.
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>>33599733
>>33599809
>>33599837

"Stefon." You nod your head to the boy, who bows.

"Master Nat." The boy, after a brief pause, bows to you as well."

"I am Lord William Bordain. This is my wife, Lady Alyssa Bordain, formerly Lady Alyssa Tollett."

"How do you do, my lord?" Stefon asks in a voice not yet cracked by manhood, the formality shaping his speech.

"I do well. With the help of your father, I hope to do even better."

AND, given how close we are to 1 AM, and how slow everyone's responses are getting (even mine), we'll call it a night there.

NEXT TIME: DINNER IN SNAKEWOOD. FAMILY TIME, AND MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, WE'LL ACTUALLY KILL SOMETHING.

As ever, I'll be around for the next hour or so, for any comments or questions, and if the thread doesn't die, I'll see it in the morning as well.

I'll go archive this, unless it's already happened.

Huh, mildly uneventful thread tonight. Though some decisions made that will have some interesting impacts.

I love letting you interact with Canon characters, and thinking about how your interactions with them can change canon.
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>>33599983
when is the next plot thread five or take?
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>>33599983
Thread is now archived.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/33590373/
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>>33599983

Thanks for running, when are you running next?
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>>33600000
It's not that you're not advancing the plot, it's that, at the moment, the plot has shifted from "Fight this guy, stab that guy, RAMPAGE" to "Okay, now we've got to negotiate with this guy, set this up here."

Every thread, new plot elements are coming out, and sometimes you're reacting to them not knowing what they are or how they'll go.

For instance, canon, That kid you sparred with? He's in charge of the Eyrie guards when Tyrion faces trial by combat.IF he ever gets knighted, you might have accidentally messed up the Bronn/Tyrion team up by training that kid.

Further, you've met some characters whose importance to the plot may become...interesting.

Go look up the Lynderlys in Game of Thrones Wiki. Jon Lynderly doesn't have any brothers by the time of the first book. Maybe you can stop that.

>>33600033
I think I'll do another one...Saturday, hopefully.
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>>33599449
Yeah, we have a lordly demeanor.

Only prefaced with 'dark'.

The reason the Painted Dogs were so fast to join with us is that they recognized us as the kind of man who would sit on a throne made of skulls.
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>>33600075
Er, I just meant when is the next quest thread, instead of answering questions.
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>>33600138
Oh, whoops. Yeah, hopefully Saturday.
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>>33600168
Cool.
Also, >>33600075
Is interesting. I didn't even think of tyrion.
As for the spoiler, I will. I keep finding myself knowing less then I thought I did about GOT.
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>>33600226
Well, I've taken some liberties.

Literally ALL ASoIaF tells us about Jon Lynderly is that he rules Snakewood, he's Littlefinger's friend, and he sent his son to ward with Littlefinger while he was Lord Protector of the Vale

So I decided to give him a father who was still Lord, and then I figured, well, why not a mother, and sure, some brothers. Which means that canon, they have to die eventually, so my players can maybe stop that!

You want something more important you've done, canonically?

You prevented Willas Tyrell, heir to Highgarden and older brother to the Knight of Flowers, from becoming a cripple. Willas Tyrell is like, Reach Jesus. God only knows how this changes the political situation with the Reach and the Lannisters
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>>33600308
I'm the anon who asked for a link to the start of this quest earlier and I just wanted to say this.
Thank you for making an awesome quest.
Fuck you for keeping me up till 6 in the godamn morning.
I look forward to the next quest you fantastic bastard.
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>>33600308

What should I archive the quest with? The summary I mean.
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>>33602083
>>33600308

Oh, sorry. Didn't see it was already archived.
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Where can I find a comprehensive archive of everything that's happened? I mean, from the very start, in story form. suptg isn't particularly helpful for that.
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>>33604453
Maybe foolz
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>>33604919

Drat, that's gonna be a pain in the ass.

Was it always called "Song of iron and hate"?
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>>33605079
No,

The first series of threads, it was called Knock-Off Game of Thrones Quest.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=knock+off
(NOTE: threads 3 and 4 for some reason didn't have the knock-off tag, but they do have the Game of Thrones tag)

Then, it was renamed Song of Iron and Hate.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Iron%20and%20Hate%20Quest

(NOTE, thread 6 was not saved here, but can be found on Foolz. Especially if you search for threads started by me)
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>>33601600
I'm very glad you liked it.

Though, having recently lost three days of my life to internet literature, (Someone wrote an Avatar Fanfic that addressed a problem I have always bitched about, so I read it. All 700,000 words of it.) I understand the pain as well.

>>33593438
>>33593541
>>33593615
I actually have similar beliefs to 3615. Princely vanished basically right after Obama got re-elected. So he may be a White House staffer, and my understanding of those guys' workload is "Work starts at 7, and ends when it can, often 2 AM or 3 AM".

But yes, I very much want Princely back. I loved the original Game of Thrones quest. I started this one as a "Maybe we can do this until Princely comes back."

>>33593612
if you want to get stupidly specific:
ORIGINALLY, the idea of this started in a "Roll up your house" thread, where we ended up generating a house with -3 Law. Myself and another anon came up with some ideas on how that would work, and I said I'd start a quest thread on it. We cam e up with House Owltower, and some thematic ideas and so on.

I then realized that it was a little rude to pre-decide your house name and theme, so when I started the first thread, I took the same ideas, but let you choose the names and generate the history, so people would be more invested.

So, technically, this started as a different house, THEN, after 10 threads, changed quest names as well.
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>>33607559
What's the fanfic and issue you had?
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>>33607559
>>33608924

Yeah, not that anon, but what was the fanfic and the issue?
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>>33608924
>>33609020

Embers is the fanfic.

And the issue comes from the Avatar opening narration: "Only the Avatar can master all Four elements." That sentence implies that other people can master MULTIPLE elements, but not all 4. Which I always thought would be interesting, getting to see how, for instance, an air/firebender was different from a firebender or an airbender. Further, I never liked how ONLY water got healers. That's...not exactly a 'balanced' world. Especially given, as they explain lightning bending, firebenders just directly manipulate chi in external sources. Which, intuitively, suggests that there should be Firebender healers, who work through super-powered reiki.

Embers addresses both of those points, establishing that ALL elements have healers, but due to a ongoing plan by a vicious spirit, the knowledge of the non-water healers has been slowly eradicated. Further, that people can bend multiple elements, but gaining the ability initially damages your spirit, because you've attuned your soul to opposing power sources, and using them is basically like going for a jog with a barely stitched wound.
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>>33609216
Huh, never thought it through to that extent. I guess it makes sense though. I might have to check this shit out now
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>>33609216

I think that's more semantics, but the non-water healing thing sounds legit.
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>>33609338

Yeah, me too.



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