>>33795916
>What happened to you?
>I heard you were an assassin, kind of an odd place for you to be
>What’s wrong with your chest?

Let's not tell him our reason for visiting immediately.

>>33795916
use arcane sight
than
>What’s wrong with your chest?
>What happened to you?

>>33795916
>you stink

>>33795995
Arcane Sight is an obvious spell and takes several moments to cast, he might attack us or flee if we start casting a spell.
Paranoia pays in his business, after all.

>>33795969

Seconding

“What happened to you?” you ask, looking around at the room

“Lost my heart to a woman” he says, sitting in a chair that’s seen better days, and drinking cheap booze from a clay jay “Literally”

“I heard you were an assassin, kind of an odd place for you to be” you say

“I am still an assassin” says Dravere “I may have fallen on hard times, but I can still kill your foes at a distance, untraceably, using magic.”

“What’s wrong with your chest?” you ask, curious.

“Ah this” he says, glancing down at it “You’ve heard of Mistress Ilveyen, I expect?”

“I’ve heard of her, yes” you say cautiously

“She asked me to marry her” he says “I made the mistake of saying no, and this is what happened” he pulls open his robe. In and around his chest is some sort of mechanical device made of metal tubes, it hisses and whirrs, doing...something.
“She ripped my heart out and kept me alive long enough for this to be installed” he says “So I would suffer a long, painful death.”

A quick glance at Gendric tells you he’s not lying, but you think that’s not the full story either

“Now that you know my story” he says, taking another swig of booze “Who do you need killed?”

>You
>I need you to stop trying to kill Ellahi Valyenya
>Any more to this story?
>Other

>>33796091
>Any more to this story?
>We could heal you... for a price

>>33796091
>Any more to this story

>>33796117
We can't replace an organ with Healing 2, and have you seriously not learned your lesson about using divine abilities yet?

>>33796146
do it

Any more to this story?

Roll Fellowship 1d20+11 please

Rolled 14 + 11

>>33796179

>>33796146
>thinking I'm talking about healing him with divine powers

Rolled 15 + 11

>>33796179
I HAVE THE FELLOWSHIIIIIIIIIIP

Rolled 17 + 11

>>33796179
Kekles

>>33796193
>Thinking there are other methods of healing available to us
What could we do for him that isn't divine and an assassin couldn't afford himself, as far as healing goes.

If you have a plan, I'd like to hear and discuss it.

>>33796221
>Mistress Ilveyen is friends with slutsis
>I wonder what we could offer him

>>33796221

Not him, but we could maybe convince the mistress to give him his heart back.

>>33796221
>forgetting that mistress is friends with Ellahi

“Any more to this story?” you ask.

He seems to think about, finishes his drink and then says “Sure, why not?”

“Ilveyen and I were close, as in real close, in love maybe, but more on her side than mine I think.”

“When she proposed, it was clear she wanted us to be together forever, true love I think some call it. Well, as demon-bloods know, there’s no such thing, marriage is a partnership that both partners benefit from somehow.”

“I decided to be honest with her, I said I’d marry her, be faithful, everything else, but that I didn’t love her, that magic would forever possess my heart, that it would never be hers.”

He chuckles bitterly “My foolishness was my downfall, I failed to account for how proud she was.”

“Now, what did you want again?” he looks up at you, his eyes bleary.

>I need you to stop trying to kill Ellahi Valyenya
>I could get you your heart back
>Other

>>33796245
>>33796248
>>33796268
>Assuming I forgot
Jamming the heart back in occurred to me too, but if Ilveyen was so vindictive as to do this to him then I doubt she'd part with the heart just because our sis asked her to.
Which means we'd need to do a favor for Ilveyen.
I really doubt she'd ask something wholesome of us.

>>33796282
>You can heal serious injuries
is a heart lost considered serious or worse?
btw I vote
>I could get you your heart back

>>33796282
Ask him something simple
Why can't you just love her and the magic equally?
Does this world have something against poly or something?

>>33796320
>is a heart lost considered serious or worse?
Normally you could but his was taken out by a sorcerer who specialises in flesh magic - she might have done something that makes it impossible for you to heal.

You could try to heal him and find out of course.

>>33796282
I'm finally here, what the fuck are you wimps wasting time for? just stab the fucking guy, its 2 on 1

>>33796353
Let's not.
Using divine abilities outside the city, miles away, got a kill-team sent after us.
Using them *inside* the city is a horrendous idea.

>>33796390
>Stabbing a wizard
>In his home
>Simple

>>33796282
>I could get your heart back

>>33796417
Gendric's a master of fucking killing mages if our fight with him is anything to go by we've also got divine shield or whatever so his attacks are weaker
finally theres the fact that hes weakened due to his missing heart, easy fucking kill, stop wasting time and kill the shit

>>33796282
>I could get you your heart back

“I could get you your heart back” you offer

He looks at you, disbelieving “How?”

“I know someone who knows Ilveyen” you say “maybe I can convince her to forgive you.”

He laughs uproariously, it ends in an extended coughing fit “She’s stubborn and proud” he says “So damn proud, that’s what I liked about her, you won’t succeed, not unless you offer her something she truly wants, or a challenge, she cannot overcome – something to do with flesh sculpting of course” he clarifies with a wheeze “But sure, if you can work that miracle, I’ll kill whoever you want for free.”

>I’ll be back when I’ve convinced Ilveyen to heal you
>I had other questions (what?)
>I don’t want you to kill someone, I want you to not kill someone
>Kill him
>Other

>>33796536
>Kill him

Rolled 9 + 11

>>33796536
>I don’t want you to kill someone, I want you to not kill someone

>>33796536
>I don't want you to kill someone, I want you to not kill someone.
>I'll be back when I've convinced Ilveyen to heal you.

>>33796536
see
>>33796346

>>33796536

>I don’t want you to kill someone, I want you to not kill someone

>>33796474
First, Gendric has no abilities related to killing mages in particular.
Second, a physically weakened wizard just means a wizard that spends more time indoors, preparing for murderhobos.
Third, There's nothing we can do that would prevent him from teleporting away and blowing up the room.
He even said his specialty is killing from a range.

Nobody missed you, murderhobo anon.

>>33796613
>shackle the mage
>he can't escape
>kill him
>simple

>>33796664
You can cast while shackled, as we have demonstrated.
He can probably teleport, so it's pointless, he'll just TP away as soon as he's shackled.
And then the room explodes.

>>33796696
>thinking that's how it works

>>33796722
Oh? Then explain why it wouldn't work that way.
He teleports away, activates the magical traps he placed in the room beforehand.
At what stage of this do the shackles interfere?

>>33796760
Burning Shackles: Fiery Shackles that restrain foe.
1 – STR DC 20 to break free, Deals 3 fire damage/round, can be used to knock out held target (Will roll).

bitch please, I've been here since the 3rd thread

“Why can't you just love her and the magic equally?” you ask “Do you have something against polyamorous relationships?”

“I don’t know” he says “Maybe if I’d said that back then, I wouldn’t be in this mess, but even if I told he that today, it wouldn’t fix anything.”

He gets a curious look in his eye “Why, do you think you could love more than one person at a time?”

You decide that’s not a question you can answer right now.

“I don't want you to kill someone, I want you to not kill someone.” You explain

“Oh?” he says “Who?”

“Lady Ellahi Valyenya” you answer

“Valyenya, Valyenya” he muses “Oh yes, betrayed me, I can’t keep track of all my feuds so easily these days. Well yes, I suppose if you got me my heart back, I’d leave her alone.”

>I’ll be back when I’ve convinced Ilveyen to heal you
>I had other questions (what?)
>Kill him
>Other

>>33796819
>kill him

>>33796818
Okay, now explain how that interferes since one can cast while bound?

>>33796819
>I’ll be back when I’ve convinced Ilveyen to heal you

>>33796760
You focus your arcane powers and attempt to dispel the chains, but they remain wrapped around you. The Half-demon facing you smirks raises one hand in front of you says “night-night Miss” and clenches the hand into a fist.

Burning hot agony flares through you, and you black out.

Not murderhobo anon but I can see where hes getting the whole "cant tele escape" thing. Unfortunately mages have high willpower (I'm presuming) so he can probably roll well

>>33796861
>can be used to knock out held target (Will roll).
>bein this blind
fucking scrub, kill the shit, its fucking easy

>>33796819
>I’ll be back when I’ve convinced Ilveyen to heal you
Jesus, arguing when theres only 4 players. Fucking chill

>>33796819

>I'll be back with your heart.

The irony that we'll end up healing the assassin. Especially considering that he gave impression like his feud with Ellahi is least of his worries. I certainly hope he won't betray us.

>>33796889
Yeah, but it's only a -5 modifier to cast while bound and he's probably put all his points in willpower.

The willpower save was only failed because Gendric poured all of his AE and then some into that knock-out attempt.

>>33796915
That part can't be used on the same round it's cast, Gendric took two rounds to knock us out, one to cast and one to activate.
I've already seen what you're planning and I find it...lacking.

>>33796961
We can use him as an assassin afterwards to get rid of those against the rebellion
The rebellion's got plenty of cash after all

“I’ll be back when I’ve convinced Ilveyen to heal you” you say, eager to leave the foul-smelling room.

“Good luck” he says sardonically, raising his empty booze jar in salute.

When you get outside and update your allies on the situation, Gendric asks “How are you going to talk Ilveyen into that?”

“I’ll think of something” you reply confidently.

>Go see Ilveyen
>Speak to Ellahi first
>Other

>>33796963
>The willpower save was only failed because Gendric poured all of his AE and then some into that knock-out attempt.
citation needed.
>Sireyi totally is not in the same room
citation needed

>being this much of a filthy scrub

>>33797014
>go back inside and kill him

>>33797014
>Speak to Ellahi first

>>33797014
>Speak to Ellahi first

>>33797061
That's fallin' talk there, motherfucker.

>>33797061
Veto.

>>33797014
>Speak to Ellahi first

>>33797132
>killing an assassin
>bad
fuck you motherfucker
we be doing this world a favour
love how you change tactics once you realise you've lost the argument

>>33797014

I think we should speak to Ellahi first, even if only to tell her what we're trying to do (And get [x]told a second opinion)

After we've found out just what her deal with Ilveyen is, we can go
>'hello mistress Ilveyen, would you like to talk about Velya? Er I mean Dravere'

>>33797163
>Assuming only one of us has a problem with your shitposting
And I didn't lose the argument, I'm trawling the archives for your damn citation.
Seriously, the second point was invalid due to magical defensive spells but I can't recall where Gendric mentioned that he lost consciousness about ten seconds after he slipped us the knockout drugs post-shackle knockout.

>>33797211
>hating shitposting
Mate, even through hes not doing it on purpose, his shitposting is the only thing making this quest alive.
If not for his screaming of "kill him" muderhobo style than we would just hivemind decisions only with zero discussion or chat.

You return to Ellahi’s house to discuss Ilveyen before you head over to the House of Flesh.

You find her in the library, re-ordering it after your search the other day.
“I spoke to Dravere” you say
“Oh” she replies, stacking books on a shelf “Did you kill him?”
“Not quite” you say, and explain about Ilveyens hatred of him, and your plan.

She turns to face you “Hmm, that’s a difficult one, I doubt just asking nicely will get her to budge, she is pretty stubborn. You’ll need to offer something she wants, or challenge her skills somehow. When you met her, did you get the impression she wanted anything from you?”

>Challenge her skills how?
>Well, I think she wanted to try sculpting my flesh actually
>Can’t you just bribe her?
>Other

>>33797263
And our Consensus would be glorious.

>>33797163
>>33797211
I found it >>33488150
>“Easily?” he says “If you say so...I actually used up every bit of energy I had keeping you trapped and knocking you out. I was exhausted, lucky for me I was able to get you here and dose you with a sleeping potion before I passed out.”

>>33797279
>Challenge her skills how?
>Well, I think she wanted to try sculpting my flesh actually
>Can’t you just bribe her?

>>33797279
>Challenge her skills how?
>Well, I think she wanted to try sculpting my flesh actually
>Can’t you just bribe her?
>How do you feel about the assassin working for the rebellion? Of course he won't get told hes working for the rebellion, he would just get told targets to kill

>>33797299
so? if gendric has enough powa to keep a half-angel locked than I'm pretty sure he can do the same to some half-dead wizard

>>33797279

>Challenge her skills how?
>I think she wanted to try sculpting my flesh...

Let's not ask her to bribe the scorned woman (it won't work) to save a man who wants to kill her (it really just seems wrong)

Maybe rather ask her what sort of agreement she has with her that the mistress did not make a move on us before we first met

>>33797370
It's based off willpower.
This guy's a dedicated sorcerer, probably has at least a +4 or +5 willpower, plus sorcerous items and magical defenses.
The point is, he can resist it, it's not an instant win and it won't lock him down.

He is a prepared wizard and attacking him in his own home goes beyond murderhobo and straight into gibbering retard territory.

I don't think you're the real murderhobo, even he wasn't this much of a fool.

“Challenge her skills how?” you ask

“Well she is one of the best flesh-sculptors in the Empire” says Ellahi “If you told her she couldn’t ‘sculpt a particular thing or person, her pride would compel her to try and prove you wrong.”

“Well, I think she wanted to try sculpting my flesh actually” you say

“There you are then” she says “She knows what you are, tell her that half-angels are supposed to be impossible to change the form of, and say that if she fails, she has to do you a favour.”

“Can’t you just bribe her?” you ask, you’re not keen on having your body shaped in such a way.

“Too expensive” she says, stacking some books “Just remember to include a condition that win or lose, she has to return you to your original form.”

“How do you feel about the assassin working for the rebellion? Of course he won't get told he’s working for the rebellion, he would just get told targets to kill”

“I’ve no problem with it” says Ellahi, “But aren’t you supposed to be against that sort of thing?”

“This is a tyrannical empire” you say “A rebellion here was never going to be bloodless” You refrain from mentioning about how his targets would likely be evil people.

>Ask other questions (what?)
>Go see Mistress Ilveyen
>Other

Ooops, almost forgot

Party
>Everyone goes with you
>Go alone
>Some go with you (who?)

Location
>Some go inside the House of Flesh with you (who?)
>Some stay outside (who?)

>>33797441
You do understand that murderhobo anon doesn't actually exist right?
Its simply a persona that some anon plays since he knows it won't get any votes and therefore will not change votes in any sense.
At least that's what I always thought since no-one could be that retarded unless they're trying to be retarded

>>33797558
Yeah thats what I always thought too

>>33797493

Do we actually know that she would fail in... sculpting?

I'm not particularly thrilled about turning Sireyi into a dickspiderplatypus or something like that.

>>33797532
>Go see Mistress Ilveyen
>Everyone goes with you
>Some go inside the House of Flesh with you
Bokin, Jal and Sofia stay outside. No need to cause problems when we don't need to.

>>33797558
Yeah, and I'm not actually so autistic as to take him seriously, but it's fun.
It's like putting on a play, or perhaps a slapstick routine.

I bitch at him for the same reason I always veto'd blow the horn anon, because it's funny.

>>33797493
>Go see Mistress Ilveyen
>Everyone goes with you
>Some go inside the House of Flesh with you

>>33797693
I'm blow the horn anon. I will admit I'm never serious about the horn but just do it because its fun.
>>33797493
>>33797532
>Go see Mistress Ilveyen
>Everyone goes with you
No taking sofia please. Everyone else is fine

>>33797532

Take Gendric.
Maybe Ellahi could come watch too?

Rest could wait outside, they would probably only get in the way, although I hope they won't feel too neglected.

>>33797532
So, we allow the Lady of Flesh to sculpt us (under condition that we be returned to our original form and status afterwards) and in exchange she gives that heart back?

>>33797827

Well we first need to hear what she has to say on the subject. Maybe we could even manage to convince her to surrender the heart voluntarily with some bullshit along the lines "if you love him, you'll let him go" etc

So everyone going with but only you and Gendric go inside, ok, wriiting

>>33797827
When was the last time we attempted to commune with our god, btw?

>>33797942
Yesterday?

You return to the House of Flesh, it is much the same as you remember; high-class prostitutes in all shapes entertain their customers.

The greeter seems to recognise your name and you and Gendric are shown into Mistress Ilveyens office, the preserved specimens along the wall taking on a new significance – especially the beating heart in the jar behind her head.

She greets you as you enter and bids you take a seat “My dear, what can I do for you?”

>I need you to give Dravere his heart back
>I need a non-specific favour
>I’m told you can flesh-sculpt any living thing, I don’t believe this
>You wanted to flesh-sculpt me, what can I ask for in return if I let you?
>Other

>>33797942
This thread.
Also last thread.
A couple days ago, in-universe.

>>33797959
what the shit, did anyone's 4chan just go full weird?

>>33797968
>You wanted to flesh-sculpt me, what can I ask for in return if I let you?
>Also Only will allow you if you promise to change me back afterwards

>>33797959
Thanks QM. Still catching up. Use of an assassin for a paladin made me curious.

>>33798007

Sounds good enough

>>33797968
>I offer trade. I know you want to inspect and shape me. I in return would like to improve a relationship you have.

>>33798038
I'm not the QM of this quest.

>>33798007
this works

“You wanted to flesh-sculpt me, what can I ask for in return if I let you?” you ask, specifying “only if you agree to turn me back afterwards.”

Her eyes widen, and then narrow, a smile plays over her face “I would love to flesh-sculpt you, but turning you back afterwards lessens the pleasure somewhat – especially as it will be less of a challenge if you’re not resisting my skills.”

“For this I will offer you a minor favour” she says “I would offer more if you would allow me to make a permanent change to you – of my choosing. Or if you were to resist.”

>Deal
>How much for Dravere’s heart?
>How much if I promised to resist as much as possible?
>How about a permanent change of my choosing?
>Other

>>33798077
This is probably better then >>33798007

>>33798191
>challenge her
>"If I were to resist than you wouldn't even be able to flesh-scuplt me"
>"Lets make a bet, if you can fully flesh-scuplt me than I'll allow you to keep one minor non-damaging change made to me, but if I win... than I get anything from this room"

>>33798191

How much if I were to resist as much as possible?

Trial by flesh it is, then.

>>33798191
>question: What type of permanent change are you thinking about? Would the permanent change corrupt or damage my angelic powers?

>>33798191
>A small change might be ok. though we would have to negotiate this on a case by case basis, and resisting would certainly spice this up. I do have a kind of big favour to ask of you, but it would also be in your interest in the long term if my plan works.

I might also promise to come back after I have increased my magic resistance, which does still grow. A second session with a more fully grown angelic being might be even more interesting than the first.

>>33798191
>How about we make it a contest?
>I'll try my best to resist your spells, and you try your best to change me
>If I win, I get one boon from you, nothing too costly or terrible, if you win then you get to know you successfully changed somebody that, aside from being unique in this world, shrugs off most spells like water off a duck's back.
>One condition, you *have* to change me back afterwards, completely.

>>33798191
So basically its either
1. challenge
2. let her do a minor permanent change that you agreed to
3. Resist alot when she does a minor temporary change

>>33798272
“What type of permanent change are you thinking about? Would the permanent change corrupt or damage my angelic powers?” you ask

She shakes her head “Oh no, if you want to negotiate over permanent changes, then I get 3 tries to sculpt you. I will say that I do not intend to do anything harmful, only accentuate your existing beauty, in my eyes at least. As for damaging your powers, I suspect the only thing I could do in that regards is remove your wings – which I have no intention of doing.”

>>33798347
Yes, or write-in

>>33798398
And those options will all get us the heart?

>>33798421
If you pick the right follow-up options, yes

>>33798398
okay I vote contest than. not gonna risk letting her do permanent change

>>33798444
Contest with her having to change us back, win or lose.

>>33798468
>>33798450
samefag?

>>33798450

I support this.

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>>33798487
1:01 is a bit close for a samefag, they usually take 6 or more seconds over the minute due to server traffic.

Hope I did this right.

"Lets make a bet” you say “If you can fully flesh-sculpt me than I'll allow you to keep one minor non-damaging change made to me, but if I win... then I get anything from this room"

She laughs “For such a small reward you ask much, for this I would demand 5 attempts, that you are naked – free of any protective items, and I choose 3 minor non-damaging changes.”

“How about” you say “If I win, I get one boon from you, nothing too costly or terrible, if you win then you get to know you successfully changed somebody that, aside from being unique in this world, shrugs off most spells like water off a duck's back. And you must change me back after our contest.”

She shakes her head “For you to truly resist you need to risk losing something. But I agree to restore you to your original form, with the exception of the agreed-upon changes.”

Terms of the contest
Number of attempts She gets
1-5 (pick a number)

Protective items?
Y/N

Number of changes if she wins (minor, non-damaging)
1-3 (pick a number)

Changing you back (apart from changes) is a given

Alternatively
>I want anything in this room if I win, what are your terms?
>I want Dravere’s heart if I win, what are your terms?

Just a hint *minor boon* or *nothing too costly* will not get you the heart – she values it more than that.

>>33798634
3 attempts
no protective items
1 minor change kept.
In return, same terms as first one. Any item from this room.
Can we roll to see if we can persuade?

>>33798634
Tell her she can have 5 attempts
But only get to keep 1 change
Also, promise her that in return she will get 5 MORE attempts when you reach full angelhood-power level.
In return we get whatever we want

>>33798634
>she wants us naked
lel, I see where shes going with this
tell her she gets her 5 attempts, however any past the first she has to wait until we're full angel which is to her benefit too

>>33798734
>Whatever we want
That's a fair bit higher than specifying 'in this room'.

>>33798691
If we can roll fellowship to persuade her to accept these terms, then let's try it.

>>33798787
we're offering her 5 attempts to change a half-angel the only one in this world whilst also offering her 5 attempts doing it on a near full power angel.
I think my terms were fair

>>33798812
But the only thing we want is in this room.
It'd be better to specify this, as it has less perceived value to what we would be able to gain.

And your terms bank entirely on her enjoying the flesh shaping when she said herself that she doesn't like changing people back.
She gets *nothing* if she wins other than bragging rights, under your terms.

Oh wait, she can't brag, people would ask questions about us and bring the crimson guard down on her head.

>>33798871
I want to force her to meet assassin and make up though ;_;
Why else do you think I was specifying "anything"?

>>33798894
Then the specification is justified, but your terms are still kinda biased towards us.

You don't have to hide your plans from us, and you shouldn't.
It only leads to confusion.

>>33798871

Actually... the heart itself is useless unless she agrees to put it back where it belongs. And we also run the risk that there's something in the room she values even more.

>>33798691
Ok, this option is most popular

Roll Fellowship 1d20+11 to convince her to take the deal

Rolled 3 + 11

>>33798955
Can you wait awhile? We're still thinking this through

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Rolled 20 + 11

>>33798955

Let's show her the D(iplomacy)

Rolled 19 + 11

>>33798955

Rolled 11 + 11

>>33798955
DIPLOMACY!

“3 attempts” you say “no protective items, if I lose, 1 minor change kept, if I win, any item in this room”

She smiles “Agreed.”

She leads you the two of you out of her office and into a circular room in the basement with a chain hanging from the ceiling with an adjustable metal collar on the end.

“Strip” she says “and put the collar on”

“We said nothing about a collar” you argue

“No” she says “we didn’t, but this is where I work – when I’m not doing a public sculpting for the entertainment of my clients, but I’ll be generous, you can wear the collar, or we can do this on stage, in public.”

Gendric is still in the room

>Fine (strip and put on the collar)
>I’m not wearing a collar (public stage it is, naked of course)

Gendric
>stays in the room
>Waits outside

Either way, roll 1d20+11 to resist her first attempt

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Rolled 4 + 11

>>33799153

Very well.

>Put on the collar.
>Gendric stays in case she does something funny... well aside from what's agreed.

Rolled 7 + 11

>>33799153

>I’m not wearing a collar (public stage it is, naked of course)
we have no fear

Rolled 2 + 11

>>33799153

>>33799194

with rolls like these, we should.

>>33799153
>Fine (strip and put on the collar)
>Waits outside

Rolled 5 + 11

>>33799251
The first time is always the easiest. Plus we get +11. We got this (I hope)

Rolled 2 + 11

>>33799153
>Fine (strip and put on the collar)
>Waits outside

>>33799153
>Examine collar. Is it magic in any kind.
>Why do you even want me to wear that collar?

Also: we are supposed to resist to the best of our abilities. This includes the lightning halo. Is that already part of the +11?

Gendric
>stays in the room
I don't trust her alone with us.

Rolled 18, 20, 15, 7, 6, 15, 16, 16, 7, 13 = 133

>>33799276

what's the deal with those rolls anyway

>>33799251
We have divine shield AND lotsa willpower.
We should not be losing this with a roll of 18 (I hope)

>>33799153
Gendric stays.
Fuck modesty

>>33799313
No, it doesn't.
The +11 is Div Shield x 1.5 (6) + base 5

Asking Gendric to stay inside the room, you strip off and lock the collar around your neck, you examine it but it does not appear to be magical.

Ilveyen goes over to the wall and turns a crank, shortening the chain so you can only just stand on your tip-toes, the collar pulling you upwards.

First she places her hands on your lower back, standing behind you “working on something you can’t see” she breathes into your ear “Is always the most challenging, especially when working on something as complicated as the nephritic system.”

Pain lances through your body and you convulse for a minute, and then it stops.

“Well” she says, disappointment in her voice “Seems you have some resistance after all, first round to you.”

She then stands in front of you and trails her fingers down your face “The eyes next” she says softly “Such beautiful eyes”.

Gendric is watching her carefully.

Roll 1d20+11

Bonus is Will +5 Divine Shield +6 vs Demon Magic, Lightning Halo wouldn't help

>>33799313

Won't halo trip the wards though?

Rolled 19 + 11

>>33799503
>"They were my mother's."

Rolled 18 + 11

>>33799503

AARRGH MY EYES NOT THE EYES

Rolled 1 + 11

>>33799503
CMON!

Rolled 9 + 11

>>33799503

"They were my mother's." You say

“Maybe they’ll be mine” she responds

She trails her hands over your eyes and then suddenly her fingers dive into your flesh, as if trying to rip your eyes out, the pain is excruciating and you scream. Gendric rushes forwards but Ilveyen stops him with an upraised hand “She resisted successfully” she says “If you interfere I’ll consider that a forfeit on her part, and I win.”

Grumbling, Gendric goes to stand back against the wall.

She walks around you twice, before stopping behind you again, trailing her hands down your wings “External limbs are the easiest things to change” she says “So this feels like cheating, but maybe angel wings are more resistant." She grips your wings, hard.

Roll 1d20+11 (final roll)

Rolled 1 + 11

>>33799645

Fly me to the moon

Rolled 9 + 11

>>33799645

Rolled 8 + 11

>>33799645

Rolled 4 + 11

>>33799645

Rolled 19 + 11

>>33799645
well there goes our wings

Rolled 4 + 11

>>33799479
>>33799503
I thought resisting spells would be willpower. Sorry about that.

>>33799667
Let us hope 20 is enough.

Rolled 6 + 11

>>33799693
Actually from the char sheet:

Willpower Rolls
Any roll +5
Spell-related rolls +10
Resist Magic +13
Resist Demon Magic +15

What am I missing?

She pulls you wings from your body, you only thought her trying to take your eyes was painful; this is true pain.

You scream and scream and scream. When you stop, your throat raw, you see her standing in front of you, holding your wings in her hands, the bloodless stumps twitching. Despite everything, you wings somehow look alive,

“You lost” she says “But how about we raise the stakes?”

“What did you have in mind?” you ask, your voice hoarse

“One final round” she says “your eyes again, of some difficulty for you to resist”

“If I lose?” you ask

“Two minor changes” she says

“And if I win?” you ask

“Two changes” she says “But you choose them – as well as your original request.”

>No deal, restore my wings, I accept defeat
>Come get my eyes, bitch

>>33799802
Those numbers include +4 bonus from Necklace - which you are not currently wearing

Rolled 3 + 11

>>33799802
Those bonuses factor in the +4 from our resistance amulet, which we aren't using.

>>33799858
>Come get my eyes, bitch
If I win. One change which I chose as well as the original request

>>33799858
>No deal, restore my wings, I accept defeat

We can't risk our wings for some evil guys heart,
when just as easily we can kill him to stop being a murder.

>>33799858
>Come get my eyes, bitch

>>33799858
>Come get my eyes, bitch

>>33799929
We get our wings back regardless, she isn't allowed to do harmful alterations and has to restore us before them anyway.

Rolled 7 + 11

>>33799858

Ok, roll 1d20+11 again

Rolled 5 + 11

>>33799978

Rolled 2 + 11

>>33799978

Rolled 19 + 11

>>33799978

Well, there goes nothing.

Rolled 2 + 11

>>33799978


>>33799947
She can still cripple us in all kinds of ways for bo real benefit to us. Except restore some random assholes heart.

Rolled 9 + 11

>>33799929
>We can't risk our wings for some evil guys heart,
We get the wings back either way.

>>33799859
>>33799858
That's what I get for only glancing over things. Didn't even read until just now that the halo only improves will when casting magic, not when resisting.

>>33799978

Rolled 8 + 11

>>33800004
thank you based anon

>>33800004
Thank you for that save.
I've never been so nervous about a fucking dice roll in my life.

>>33800005
Nope, specifically stated as a term of the contest, the permanent alterations aren't allowed to be harmful in any way.

>>33799978
This flesh-sculpting seems to be very... uh... uncivilized.

Alright, let's discuss cosmetic surgery now.

Change of breast size? Height? Skin clor?

Or something practical, like silk glands... eh, let's not go there.

No penises please.

Rolled 2 + 11

>>33800082
We'll have to see what counts as a minor change.

>>33800082
Breasts. We need G or larger.
If only 5.8 anon was here now, he would be crying tears of joy.

Well, at least she will always have the satisfaction of knowing that she CAN shape a resisting angel.

Plus she gets to do some extra work, even if it isn't quite what she wanted. She still gets all kinds of bragging points.

Rolled 1 + 11

>>33800111
Larger breasts would just hinder us,Sireyis are more than adquate.

“Come get my eyes, bitch” you spit your defiance at her. Once again her eyes dig into your sockets, trying to tear your eyes away from you.

The pain lasts for far too long, but then it ends. All you can feel are her hands on your back as she reattaches your wings.

She gently removes the collar and then kisses you on both cheeks, whispering into your ear “Well done, many of my best girls make more noise than that, if you ever want a job, come to see me.”

As you walk gingerly towards your clothes she says “So which of my trinkets caught your eye?”

“Dravere’s heart” you say “I want you to give it back to him, so he’ll stop trying to kill Ellahi.”

She pauses, then laughs “Had you told me that in the first place I would have offered to kill him for you. Come, I’ll give you something else and have Dravere killed.”

>I didn’t really want the heart anyway
>A deal is a deal, I want you to give Dravere his heart back
>About my 2 changes
>I thought Flesh-sculpting was supposed to be more...artistic than that.

>>33800082
bigger boobs, our sister is bigger than us. THIS WILL NOT STAND!

>>33800082

Receptors on the skin that can detect evil/good within a 50 foot radius. It's not unpleasant or bothersome, but it just tells us if something is there or not.

>>33800138

I agree. Sireyi's rack is perfect as it is.

We can get the shortening as one of the changes for the Shorty Anon.

>>33800145
>I didn’t really want the heart anyway
He's just going to stay a assasin anyway.
And there is no guarantee he will only kill evil people.

>About my 2 changes. We want to know what is possible.

>>33800153
Our detect evil can be overwhelmed, and how the hell would demon magic do that?

>>33800150
Let's not go with that, it doesn't seem to actually be useful and it isn't just our sister's breasts that are larger than ours.

Keep in mind, we do need to still be capable of combat and Ds probably already get in the way a bit.

>>33800184
Nope, hate that guy and his shitposting over wanting Sireyi to be his genderbent self-insert or whatever his deal was.

>>33800145
>I thought flesh-sculpting was supposed to be more...artistic than that.

>>33800145
>>A deal is a deal, I want you to give Dravere his heart back
>>About my 2 changes
>>I thought Flesh-sculpting was supposed to be more...artistic than that.

"I gave him my word. Even knowing who and what he is, I am loath to break it."

>>33800184
I like her being tall. Hell, I'd say add an inch or two.

>>33800145
>If you will not give us the heart than in return I want you to have a talk with Dravere. Did you know that even after all this that he still loves you?
Havn't you thought it strange that he never chose to come kill you even after all this time even when his professions all about assasination?

>>33800184
What, no!
She has to be taller. 6feet is fucking nothing.
She has to properly tower over most for the full wrath of heaven effect.

>>33800145

>A deal's a deal. I came to you precisely because I didn't want to kill him.

Hmm... maybe we could save the minor changes for after we do the transfusion thing, in case we get a change we don't want?

>>33800082
>Some cool tattoos that are part of the body
>Strengthened bone structure or similar non-visible improvement (Improved lungs, feet with better grip…)
>Some kind of chameleon stuff?
>Physical lightning storage or another useful ability
>A nosejob
An assortment of retractable penises.
>Size change: we are now 7'2
>Improved flexibility
>Ask her for suggestions

>>33800236

This looks good, although I'm not sure how much of it counts as minor.
no dicks please

>>33800236
>Minor change
Emphasis on minor.
I doubt a full foot and two inches is a minor change.
A fair amount of those are just completely ridiculous.

>>33800215
wow, this actually sounds really reasonable
>>33800145
why exactly did Dravere never come to kill the bitch? Is it really as the other anon says or why?

>>33800145
>I still want to get the two of you together again. He seems to have weird concepts of what love means and as a follower of the Goddess of Love and Joy I'd be remiss not to try.

>>33800145
Suddenly, a huge amount of replies when concerning shaping a character to become whatever fantasy people want.
never change /tg/

>>33800296
Obviously there is more to discuss about that, then the other choices.

>>33800269

I figure it's because he knew full well that he's no match for her.

>>33800145
Okay okay, we've agreed on.
>asking about the 2 changes
>asking about flesh-sculpting
We're stuck on:
Whether to take the heart, kill Dravere or convince Dravere and bitch to come together as couple
We're also stuck on what change specifically

>>33800145
I vote breasts large enough to cause problems with everyday life

>>33800336
Try convincing.
We need more info on what constitutes a minor change.
I'd prefer if OP didn't allow write-ins and just presented us a list of possibilities in regards to the change.

>>33800336
>We're stuck on:
>Whether to take the heart

As far as I can see, I was the only one voting for letting her kill him.

>>33800387
Theres only 5-6 players so one vote is alot.

>>33800209
>"I gave him my word.
We said: “I’ll be back when I’ve convinced Ilveyen to heal you”. So far we have only convinced her to relinquish the heart, not to heal him. Our word is broken either way.

Another thing of note: What will we do with the heart? We would need her to actually reinsert it into Dravere, unless our healing is good enough. And even then, revealing our divine healing to an evil assassin might not be the best choice.

>>33800398

We didn't come to get experimented on just to have the guy killed in the end. We could've done that ourselves and without opening the can of worms that is transformations.

>>33800336
convince them. we're a paladin of joy right?

>>33800437
We never gave our word, we didn't promise anything.
We said we come back when we convinced her. If we don't convince her, we just never come back to him, and we still made true on what we said.

“A deal is a deal” you say “Give Dravere his heart back”

She nods "As you wish, tell him to come to me, and I shall re-implant his heart".

“I thought Flesh-sculpting was supposed to be more...artistic than that.” You say, as you start slipping you clothes on, she lays a restraining hand on your arm “Not yet” she says “we have a few other things to change first”

“It usually is” she says “But with your resistance, had I tried for artistic or painless, I would have failed, crude is the easiest method, and the only way I had a chance against you, so forgive me the pain I caused you, but I hate losing.”

“Alright” you say “so about my 2 minor changes-”

“Ah” she says, holding up a finger “I said 2 minor changes if you lose, but 2 changes without the qualifier if you won.”

“So how big a change are we talking here?” you ask

“What would you like to change?” she asks “Basic characteristics: Height, weight, build, hair, eye or skin colour, the length of your hair? Perhaps some skin patterns that look like tattoos”

“Or general improvements” she says “Making you stronger, faster or tougher?”

“Or something more? Another set of wings, or arms, or a tail?” she says

“Or something from the animal kingdom: specialised sensors, eyes that can see underwater, ears that can hear where people are standing. Hands that can stick to walls, webbing”

She leans in and whispers in your ear “Or one of the custom jobs I do for my girls – I can make sure you’ll always climax as long as your lover does, or increase your sensitivity far beyond what you would think possible, or add an extra something to allow you to take two men at once with ease, or a body so flexible you can take anything, no matter how large.”

>>33800387
Conditional on being able to convince Dravere to work for us, the heart is more useful. Also I still want to make an attempt at bringing the two back together.

If we cannot convince Dravere to join the side of good, we would only piss off an ally (the Lady) and manage to give a powerful assassin a couple more years of killing people.

I'm ok with going for either choice, I think the attempting the first would be more in-character.

>>33800464
Sure, we didn't promise anything. My quote was as an answer to someone who wanted to claim we would break our word by not taking the heart.

>>33800534
Please pick 2 and only 2, an option can be chosen multiple times, first we pick broad categories, then specific mods afterwards. Votes not picking 2 options will not be counted – though commenting is certainly ok

>Basic characteristics (appearance)
>General improvements (stats)
>Something more (limbs)
>Animal Kingdom (weird stuff)
>Custom Job (sex-related stuff)
>None

Optional
Try to convince her to reconcile with Dravere?
Y/N

>>33800534
>>33800560
Before you guys start going crazy, I'd like to namefag briefly to request two and only two things of you:
Nothing too extreme.
No fetish fuel.

>>33800560
>General improvements (stats)
>Something more (limbs)

>Y
We are a Paladin of Love, it seems only right.

>>33800594
A lot of things can be fetish.
But I agree in so far that sex-related stuff would be very strange for her considering she doesn't have any.

>>33800560
Yes for convincing
>General improvements
>Animal Kingdom (ant's strength)

I'm vetoing all sex-related stuff

>>33800560
>General improvements (stats)
>Basic characteristics (appearance)

>>33800534

>*gulp* I think I'll need to think about it.
She's going to be enjoying this.

Although this discussion will take a while too.

I think we could use a bonus to agility, i.e. getting faster.

Maybe gills could be handy? Then again, we could just get the endurance power for this kind of things...

Or if we're going overboard, chameleon skin or spiderman glands?

>>33800560
>>Something more (limbs)
>>Animal Kingdom (weird stuff)

Everything else we can get otherwise, but those are really unique stuff we might not get another opportunity for.
Nothing too extreme of course.

>>33800560
>General improvements (Strength)
>Something more (Luffy style elastic [i.e. blunt weapon resisting] skin)

>>33800560
>General improvements (stats)
>Something more

>>33800560
>>33800681

>Try to convince her to reconcile with Dravere?
>Y

Forgot that one

>>33800560
>Convincing: yes.
>General improvements
>Animal Kingdom

>>33800560

>General improvements
some stat boosts
>Animal kingdom
a sensory improvement might be helpful, but I wouldn't mind picking another stat boost instead.

>Y
doing Velya's work

>>33800560
So much fucking samefagging, you guys should be ashamed of yourself

>>33800560
>General improvements (stats)
>General improvements (stats)
>Y

Stats, and more stats

>>33800560
Could eye modifications from animal kingdom conflict with Angel's Sight?
I'd rather avoid eye-mods in general due to reasons, but especially if they're going to mess with our other powers.

>>33800534
>a body so flexible you can take anything, no matter how large
Wouldn't that be elastic? Flexible would fall more into the "can crawl through her own legs while standing" thing (can't think of a good example).

>>33800560
>Try to convince her to reconcile with Dravere?
Y

>>33800594
Agreed. I also hope we will pick something that is actually useful.

>(ant's strength)
Don't bugs mostly appear strong because they are tiny and weight grows exponentially with size?

>>33800760
With 8 votes its definitly not "so much samefagging", some probably.
But this kind of vote also animates a lot of passive readers.

>>33800773
>changing our mother's eyes
veto

>>33800773

Yeah, you make a good point. We've shown attachment to our eyes, would seem weird to want them changed now.

>>33800773
>Could eye modifications from animal kingdom conflict with Angel's Sight?

Possibly, depends what's picked

>>33800789
>Wouldn't that be elastic?

Probably, yes, the word she used was flexible, but the description implies elasticity

>>33800846
I'm going to tally for you pally

>>33800560
It's looking like most want one rank of general improvements with a near-equal division between animal kingdom and something more.
Requesting a Final Destination, just to be sure.

>>33800804
That's why I wanted to avoid eye-mods in general, yes.

>>33800869
To clarify, I mean locking in General Improvements and a final destination between Animal Kingdom and Something More for our other mod.

General improvements
>>33800595
>>33800637
>>33800646
>>33800695
>>33800723
>>33800728
>>33800729
>>33800770
Something more
>>33800595
>>33800681
>>33800695
>>33800723
Animal stuff
>>33800637
>>33800681
>>33800728
>>33800729

>>33800869
Ok, Final Destination a go

3 minutes from this post then I'll cut it off

Stats guaranteed

>Animal Kingdom
>Something More

Are only 2 options, pick only 1 and link to this post.

Pls no responses other than vote, gets too complicated

>>33800888
If we do final destination, we might as well include everything.
Or we include what sta we iprove in the final destination. For reference

(t)Strength- 10 (+0) Divine Warrior 21 (+5)
Agility- 13 (+1) Divine Warrior 16 (+3)
(t)Constitution- 10 (0) Divine Warrior 21 (+5)
Intelligence- 12 (+1)
(p)Willpower- 16 (+3), Lightning Core Mastery 18 (+4), Angel's Magic 21 (+5)
(p)Fellowship- 16

>>33800916
>Something More

>>33800916
>Animal Kingdom

>>33800916
>Something More

>>33800916
2

I don't quite see the distinction between animal enhancement and specific enhancement. Both have a nigh unlimited number of minor powers or special changes. What I'm worried is that we don't actually have any actually interesting suggestions for those improvements so far.

Could we ask her to wait a bit for our second wish? We will be back, but both in character and out of character this is a huge decision and I would like everyone to have some time to think of what they want I'm sure Mathrian can think of something neat once he is awake.

>>33800916

How about second stat boost?

Barring that, I'll go with
>Animal kingdom

>>33800916
>Animal Kingdom

>>33800976
Please no additional text during FD votes, it defeats the purpose of the thing.

>>33800916
>Something More

vote over

>>33800963
elastic skin gets my vote

>>33801013
Which does not have to have anything to do with animal powers, but could just as well be choosen while pointing at an elastic animal (especially since fantasy animals probably exist in this world)

>>33801009
Ok, so limbs won.

Extra arms plus strength ? So we can be full on warrior angel ?

Or two tounges ? F-for diplomancing I swear!

>>33801009
How can it be over?
Its 3 on both sides if playing by final destination rules

>>33800928
No mental stats, don't want her digging around in our brain.
Assuming she can, she only mentioned faster, tougher and stronger.
Of those three, I'd prefer Agility, as it's the only stat that doesn't get a massive boost from a DW peripheral.

>>33801046
wait nvm
>>33801036
true that

>>33801046
One of the animal kingdom vote is invalid because of extra text. FD requires only the vote, because it relies on the longer repost time for duplicate text.

Ok, time to pick from

General Improvements
>Strength +2
>Constitution +2
>Dexterity +2
>All three +1
>None

Something More
>Extra pair of arms
>Extra pair of legs
>Extra pair of wings
>Tail
>None

>>33801043
Technically, it's a tie.
>>33801003
Might not count, he was over three minutes from OP's original post, which is the time he specified.
Honestly, that FD was really non-standard and weird.

>>33800916
For future reference, standard time is five minutes exactly and only quoting a number.
So it'd be:

>>33800916
2

If someone wanted to vote for whatever 2 corresponded to.

>>33801124
Ok, point taken, I'll use those rules in future

>>33801121
>All three +1
>rubber skin one piece style

>>33800916
So, what has been voted for now? What does "something more" even mean? Does this only include additional limbs, or is would having retractable spikes in our elbows fit into this? I don't even know what I'm allowed to suggest at this point. And I still think this is something not only those present right now should have a say in.

>>33801121
>Agility +2
Because >>33801048

>Extra pair of wings
The other two are just...weird.
Tail is a maybe, depends on what kind.

>>33801141
Why.
Explain why this is a good idea.

>>33801121
>>Dexterity +2
>>Tail

Tails are awesome, extra arms would be cool too, but nothing beats a extra weapon in your back.

>>33801121

general
>Dexterity +2
something more
>none
>prefer all three stats +1 instead

>>33801121
>All three +1
Obviously the best.

>None
What would even be the point?

>>33801145
Fair point

Additional option added

>Pick later

>>33801145
everyone besides mathrian is here
Text style of individuals so far show that horn anon, caps anon, muderhobo anon (not sure about this one), veto anon, tripfag (you), 2 lurkers are all here.

>>33801121
>Dexterity +2
>Tail

Extra wings would be cool, but considering the size of her wings, it would be way too much of a hassle.

>>33801160
rubber skin = free dr against blunt shit

>>33801182
I bow to you superior knowledge. Still, I know if we choose something right now I will get a better idea within the day.

>>33801177
>>33801175

>>33801121
>Dexterity +2
>None

>>33801121
>All three +1
What the fuck does something more even fucking MEAN?
Anyhow, lets wait until we get a clear response on whats allowed first please.

>>33801121
>All three +1
>None

>>33801121
>All three +1
>Extra pair of wings

>>33801177
>>33801175 (You)
>>33801225
Meant to say: Changing to "pick later"

>>33801205
Rubber also cuts really easy, you're getting a resistance and a weakness.
Honestly, what are you even doing.

>>33801177
Lets do another FD for what limb, this is just gonna end in backpedaling.

>>33801121
General Improvements
>All three +1
Something More
can we please not do this now and wait.

>>33801288
What is there to wait for ?
Paladin gave a liust of stuff we can take.

Ok, clearly some controversy in these picks, for that I apologise.

We'll go with Chose Later and sort it out in a later thread

>>33801306
We've agreed at least on getting all three +1 if it helps.

>>33801306
When you do, is it just going to be something from Something More or do we re-pick the category?

>>33801306
Assuming we can get the chance to go back to her and this doesn't end in our second pick having been wasted.
Why not just FD vote and be done with it now ?

>>33801331
This is exactly the problem with doing it later. The minority who didn't want extra limbs forcing a revote.

OK, that’s the end of the thread for tonight, thank you for playing everyone and I hope you had fun.

My apologies for getting FD rules wrong, and for not being clear enough on general category options.
We’ll pick this up in another thread. Please use the thread to discuss options, suggest those you want to see included in the vote etc.

Options could be for complete re-vote from square one, or keeping stats and doing a tie vote between animal and limbs, or something to that effect.

I can’t stay for questions this time, but if you post them in the thread I’ll check the archives and will have answers for you next time.

I look forwards, as always, to any feedback and suggestions anyone has.

>>33801332
>Why not just FD vote and be done with it now ?

I need to be up early in the morning.

Another stupid idea: freely movable hair that has tactile perception.

>>33801306
I'm still curious as to how our choices are limited right now. From the given examples I would assume we can only pick additional limbs, but I somehow don't believe that.

>>33801306
Fuck, I'm going to try an organise this
Does anyone have any real suggestions beyond
>I dont want this

Only suggestions I have heard is the retarded rubber skin one which is useless against blades.

>>33801383

Thanks for the thread OP, was awesome as always.

>>33801400
Why don't you believe that ? Its expplicetly what that option was there for.

>>33801383
Thanks Pally

>>33801121
Constitution+2, None

As long as the extra limbs are extra wings, I can get behind it. Otherwise almost anything else would be better.

>>33801402
Not just useless, an active detriment.

>>33801358
>Minority
It was a tie before the FD, and technically a tie during the FD, it would've been AK but two people mis-voted due to the rules being very strange.
Honestly, re-doing that Final Destination just seems like the more fair idea.

>>33801383
Sleep well. Had fun as always.

>>33801424
Because that seems like a weird thing to vote on and many have picked it. Also tripfag intuition.

>>33801383
>>33801402
I vote for hyper regeneration
Faster aging means jack shit to us when we have a lifespan of 2000

>>33801400
I like the hair idea. Let's do that.

>>33801462
It was not a tie, because someone misvoted. There was no confusion, FD votes are always one text vote. Sure you can do numbers, but it makes no difference to just copy-pasting the option.

>>33801469
Its not weird though, extra limbs, are useful and a lot more predictable in their usefullness than the animal kingdom stuff.

>>33801402
I vote for having our body give off pheromones that make men and women go crazy.
I'm not serious ofc

>>33801400
If we're going this route, I want hair like mulch diggums.

>>33801383
So, next thread's is when?
Hopefully you'll see this on the archive and post it on twitter.

>>33801488
I oppose.
Also that feels more AK.

>>33801515
If it wasn't a tie then you shouldn't be so opposed to a re-count.

It was, however, a tie, 3-3 counting the mis-votes, and there was one on each side, so technically 2-2 since >>33801003 was late.

I really dislike all of the extra limbs except extra wings, and I can't see much benefit coming from them.

We don't even know what benefits extra limbs could have, you're talking out of your ass.

>>33801400
This actually seems like a good idea. We can use our hair to go under doors or to open tumbler locks.

>>33801594
>and I can't see much benefit coming from them

I am opposed to re-vote mainly on principle. If you do FD its supposed to be the final decision, if you go back on that, you might as well not have bothered.

As for Limbs. Extra wings would be cool but way too cumbersome. While a tail is always useful, grabbing stuff, as extra attacking limb. As extra limb to carry something. Limitless posibilities.

>>33801400
>>33801488

I'm fine with these, dubs confirm decent ideas

>>33801641
I voted "something more" as I presumed it meant just that, something more. Not limited to limbs.

>>33801670
Then we should redo the entire thing, with the list of possibilities laid out from the start. Thats a argument I can agree to for redoing it.

>>33801515
I imagine extra limbs to be mostly confusing and often in the way. Humanoids have 2 arms and legs for a reason and I'm not sure what we would do with more noses or eyes or toes or whatever we could gain. At most the tail could be an improvement but even that would probably not provide tangible benefits.

>>33801594
What benefit do you hope we could get from extra wings? They already get in the way when sleeping, having 4 big wings would be a bother most of the day. Where would you even put them? On our hips? Could we even sit on a chair anymore?

>>33801670
Yeah, let's just redo it.

>>33801744
I said I liked extra wings the best, not that I liked them.
Besides, Seraphim have six wings and they get by okay, they'd presumably go wherever the second set goes on an angel normally.

>>33801708
I think that we can keep the votes for that first General Improvement intact, nobody really wanted something else with that.

>>33801744
Extra arms are useful so we can use magic while holding a weapon actively, or have extra attacks, better grapples usw.

A tail is a extra limb to carry stuff, attack enemies in your back withouzt having to turn around etc.

Those are however the only useful ones.

>>33801850
let's just get the hair which everyone seems fine with and move along. No need to waste so much time discussing this even if it does affect Sireyi for the rest of her life.

>>33801885
Its impossible to tell how many people really want the hair. A proper vote is neccessary, this is a major decision.
And the hair gives us no benfit that the tail wouldn't, and isn't really useful unless we also take "appearance" to get longer hair.

>>33801885
Hair is only good if we automatically get longer hair with it, otherwise its just useless.

>>33801850
The problem with all of those things is they aren't very useful, and not worth deforming the character.
We rarely use melee, equipping our halberd is a free action from magic use, extra attacks would require wielding more weapons, and wielding two halberds is just damn awkward.
Grapples are solved by smite.
Tail is also not very good, I'd rather have another general improvement over it.

>>33801885
>Everyone wants the hair
You mean one samefag wants the hair.
It's useless, even with longer hair it's borderline useless.
Literally nothing it does isn't done in a better way by the tail or a >1XP spell.

>>33801902

We may get tail out of the magical transfusion. In fact I'd wait for the changes until after the transfusion if we're making it so we can undo unwanted changes.

>>33801966
The genral improvements aren't that big to be much better than the extra attacks gained from a tail together witht he utility, the only advantage is f you don't want a tail for cosmetic reasons, which is a valid reason don't get me wrong.

>>33801850
A tail will probably not be terribly strong but might help our balance. If given the option I would not take additional arms. Multitasking is hard and I doubt we could use 4 arms efficiently even with practice. They seem like more of a bother than they would be worth. Not to mention that our carrying capacity is usually limited not by our number of limbs but by our bags and strength.

>>33801383
A question for Pally: Would we already fully know how to work with our new limbs? I don't mean about being able to use them at all, but would we already be capable of integrating arms into our fights without being in our own way, or using a tail to keep our balance without having to practice it?

>>33801966
I think most of the people voting the hair are just voting it so we can move on. I just voted it so its decided and done