What do you do?

>Talk to someone about the Killing Frost (who?)
>Talk to someone about the Lord of Life (who?)
>Start building an alliance against Orlath (talk to which nation?)
>Get involved in city planning
>Go see Isla, see how the forest is coming along
>Do something else (what?)

[Meta]

XP

General 7 (including 50% bonus)
- Nation-building 3
- Dealing with Dragons 2

Angelic 7 (including 50% bonus)
- Protected Succubi from Summoning 5
- Temporary Solution 0

Paladin 10 (including 50% bonus)
- Non-violent Confrontation with Delax 3
- Took Alythkir alive 4
- Failed to Prevent Bystander Death 0

Divine 7 (including 50% bonus)
- Created a way to Empower Followers 5
- Not Aspected Towards you 0

Divine XP is a new XP category. It can be spent upon anything, including abilities outside of Sireyis normal purview – such as druid or bard spells.
To purchase Arcane spells, Sireyi needs the appropriate rank in Sorcerer Magic; to purchase Divine or Primal spells, Sireyi needs the appropriate rank in Priest Magic, rather than taking ranks in specific types of magic.
Abilities purchased with Divine XP work as they normally would, but are *re-themed* to fit Sireyis existing theme. For example a Shout spell might involve lightning striking and a crash of thunder, rather than Sireyi shouting, or it might be her using her Angels Voice power to amplify a quiet whisper into a eardrum-shattering sound.
Sireyi can purchase Divine XP using Deific Power: 1 Deific Power becomes 3 Divine XP, the process is less efficient than buying Angelic XP, because...
Sireyi can also use Divine XP to purchase abilities for her close allies – this includes anyone she regularly and recently spends time with, and automatically includes her wives and blood relatives, no matter how long it has been since she last saw them. Her purchases in this area are restricted to abilities they can normally learn, or powers Sireyi has herself.
Sireyi can purchase abilities against a person wishes, but is unlikely to do so.

[End Meta]

>>39706775
>Talk to someone about the Killing Frost (who?)
>Syberis and Velya, Konig;
Seem to be the only ones we know who have fought the thing

>>39706775
>Talk to someone about the Lord of Life (who?)
Did the expedition we were part of back then bring anything interesting to study back? Maybe the wizards involved have found something interesting.

>>39706775
>talk to ssomeone about the Killing Frost (Various local dieties who aren't named Delax. HUNTING PARTY HO!)

>>39706813
>
If they would be willing or able to get off their asses to actually fight the thing, they would have done it the first time already.

>>39706775
>Get involved in the city planning

>>39706790
So we could ump up say Mili with some neat abilitys or increase stats? Nice.

>>39706819
>nah bro, let's not even try

>>39706775
>Talk to someone about the Killing Frost (Velya perhaps knows something?)

Writing talking to Velya about the Killing Frost

>>39706775
>Talk to someone about the Killing Frost
>Syberis and Velya, Konig;
The best bet for initial inquiries. Our mother fought as a general in the first war against the Lord of Life. Velya was probably in that war if one of her high-ranking angels was. Unless Konig is a much younger god than anticipated, he was probably involved in it too.

>>39706790

10/10 General
5/7 Paladin
Divine Shield 3 -15 XP

0/7 Angelic
No recommendation for the time being, since there aren't any Angelic powers to buy right now.
Need to finish up a few I've been working on.

0/7 Deific
No recommendation for the moment because of three questions, the third of which is for the players:
1) Would Konig consider it cheating in regards to the experience of his school, though I don't think that was technically part of the deal, if we gave Milerna a thing or two?
2) Does Milerna's concentration of Eladrin blood still apply the surcharge to Archon powers?
3) Would people be willing to spend a small (~3) amount of Deific Power to boost the number?

Remaining: 2 Paladin XP, 7 Angelic XP, 7 Deific XP.

>>39707020
>3) Would people be willing to spend a small (~3) amount of Deific Power to boost the number?
For what?

>>39707026
For Milerna: Divine Warrior 1 (Predominantly for DR), Angelic Constitution 1 (Mostly for HP and DR boosts) and indeterminate for the remainder since I don't have an answer on Eladrin Surcharges applying to Milerna. Leaning towards Holy Weapon 1 if it doesn't apply.

If anons don't want to boost Milerna, that's also fine.

>>39707061
I'm a slightly against buffing Milerna, since growing into the power is part of the appeal in Young Paladin to me, and I heavily suspect Konig is going to be against it anyway, for similar reasons.
I can see why you would want to, though.

Although you’ve just been talking to your mother, you decide to return to Velya’s Heaven to speak to Velya Herself, about how to deal with the Killing Frost.

Your mother fought against the Lord of Life millennia ago, so Velya and Konig most likely did too, perhaps they can tell you how to defeat one of its favourite minions, the Killing Frost.

You transport yourself back to Velyas Heaven and seek out your Goddess, you find her in a secluded grove far away from the angels and worshippers that fill her Heaven, talking to two of her senior angels, a worried look on her face.

She catches sight of you standing a respectful distance away and concludes her business, sending the angels off with orders, they both bow respectfully to her, and give you smiles and nods as they pass you.

“Is something wrong?” you ask Velya.

“Yes” she says, a frustrated look on her face “but nothing you need worry about. The Far Ones are making trouble again.”

“The Far Ones?” you ask.

“Old Gods” says Velya “So old their original worshippers are long gone, they are strange and alien, barely comprehensible even to us, but sometimes they encroach upon our planes. There is such an invasion happening on a plane where my worshippers are quite numerous. I’m sending help but I wonder if it will be enough, anyway my dear, how can I help?” Velya shakes off her frustration and gives you an encouraging smile.

“It’s about the Killing Frost” you say “I’m trying to figure out how to beat it.”

“Ah yes” says Velya “that thing.”

“The first time I fought it” you say “things didn’t go as planned.”

“Indeed” agrees Velya “my apologies, had I know its master had been feeding it the essence of dead gods I would have warned you – the last time that thing was free it was a monstrously powerful elemental, but it was not an avatar or a god, it had no access to the fundamental powers of creation – I fully expected you to vanquish it.”

>>39707061
I'm for buffing Milerna so you have my blessing.

“I do not blame you My Lady” you say, thinking that in truth you did go after it rather eagerly “but how can I beat it?”

“Its powers are fairly simple” says Velya “cold and ice and weather control. So are its weaknesses: fire, it dislikes anything warm and alive, and tends to be single-minded. Due to its powers there is no way to protect oneself completely against its abilities – even spells that provide immunity from cold will only block out part of its powers.”

“How was it defeated last time?” you ask.

“Your mother” says Velya “Led an army of Archons – those specialising in fire magics – against it. They hounded it for years, chasing it away from the cold places of the world, before battling it in a hot desert for several weeks, finally they defeated it, but could not kill it – its master spirited it away - and once its master was defeated it was imprisoned.”

“So what do you suggest?” you ask.

“It despises most living things” says Velya “too warm for its liking – and it takes pleasure in freezing them to death, perhaps you can lure it into a trap.”

“But where?” you ask “a volcano?”

“A volcano would slow it down” says Velya “but is unlikely to kill it, submersing it entirely in lava for a few centuries might do the trick, perhaps luring it into the Plane of Fire might work?”

“Perhaps” you say, thinking about how you’ll defeat it.

Your response

>Can I help against these *Far Ones*?
>I’ll talk to mother about how she beat it
>Konig might have some ideas
>I’ve decided how to beat it (options in next post)
>Why didn’t you kill it before?
>Other (what?)

Thanks AA.

Feel free everyone to discuss XP spends and buffing allies/Mili throughout the thread, something to talk about between posts

>>39707088
>Can I help against these *Far Ones*?
>I’ll talk to mother about how she beat it
>Konig might have some ideas


>>39707061
I dunno, odd as it might sound, thats a bit too much nepotism for me.
>I'm strong because my mom gives me more superpowers
The bloodline powers are one thing, but that. Dunno. Feels wrong to me.

>>39707020
>Would people be willing to spend a small (~3) amount of Deific Power to boost the number?
I think we're spending DP too freely but if you had a good idea I would listen.

>>39707061
>I don't have an answer on Eladrin Surcharges applying to Milerna.

My apologies.

Mili has no surcharge or penalty on Angelic powers at this time.

Mili buys paladin powers as a paladin of both Konig and Sireyi, due to her lineage.

>>39707061
Let's not. Mili has powers of her own and buffing her will throw the balanci g in her mini-seriesdown the drain. Everyone around her will be useless and she won't have any challenge to face. Or her challenges will become to powerful for a child.

>>39707088
>Can I help against these *Far Ones*? Possible connection to the up and coming god war?
>Konig might have some ideas

>>39707088
>Can I help against these *Far Ones*?
Aww yes, take the side quest! Time to kill me some Infinite Mirrors.

>>39707088
>I'll talk to mother about how she beat it
>Konig might have some ideas
As much as I would love to help Velya, I don't think we can afford it. We should suggest thinking about these Old OOnes attacking maybe having a connection to Delax though.

>>39707088
>I’ll talk to mother about how she beat it
>Konig might have some ideas

>>39707088
>>Can I help against these *Far Ones*?

>>39707116
Definitly the wrong deities, that doesn't sound anything like the Old Gods, largely because those guys still have worshippers.

FUCK YEAH! PALADIN OF JOY QUEST!

>>39707130
>>39707116
>>39707115
>>39707093
We already don't have enough time to deal with all the bullshit at our hands, we can't afford to deal with yet another huge threat.

>>39707088
>Would there be any local dieties I might be able to talk into hunting this thing down?

>>39707061
I'm going to vote no, let Milerna grow into her own power before we give her any more.
>>39707088
>Can I help against these *Far Ones*?
>>I’ll talk to mother about how she beat it
>>Konig might have some ideas

>>39707061
While given the amount of shit she tends to get into would justify this, I'd rather not give her this sort of advantage when she's in paladin training.

>>39707088
>>39707143
Eh, true enough.
Changing >>39707093
To remove offer. Unless its something passive we could do by the side.

>>39707093
>>39707026
I'm mainly worried about her fragility and trying to accelerate that slightly, it wouldn't be a regular thing by any means. Even with Heaven's Gaze, a good strike could still kill her instantaneously and I don't want the first person we have to use Healing 5 on to be Milerna.

>>39707108
That's why I was sticking to durability boosts for the most part. They'd make her less likely to die without making her as much stronger in combat as certain powers.

Holy Weapon was mostly over the curiosity I have for the side effects of buying powers via Divine XP.

Majority seems against it, though, so I'll drop this line of thought.

>>39707103
Good to know.

>>39707143
QM obviously wants us to take his plot-hook thingie with the old gods.

>>39707088
>I’ll talk to mother about how she beat it
>Konig might have some ideas
>Why didn’t you kill it before?

>>39707164
I'm pretty sure we've had the discussion about not every plot hook being a smart idea before.

>>39707164
He doesn't "obviously" want us to anything. Not every option is something we absolutely need to do, we literally don't have enough time to even try that. We have ignored a whole bunch on the way, like the ambassadors.

>>39707088
>I’ll talk to mother about how she beat it
>Konig might have some ideas
Maybe inquire about being helpful when the world isn't in the grips of an eternal winter instead of abandoning our worshipers and countless others to traipse across dimensions again?

Writing talking to Syderis and Konig

Offering help seems to have *just* lost out, but please check my count

>>39707194
4/9, your count is correct after one anon changed it.
Maybe enough to politely offer some non-personal help, send some of our angels maybe.

>>39707160
>I'm mainly worried about her fragility and trying to accelerate that slightly
I do get why you would want it, but I think living through it on her own merit is important.
Maybe buff her willpower for when she reads the book.

>>39707194
Some wanted to inquire about possible connection between this invasion and Delaxs allies among foreign gods, wouldn't hurt adding?

Wondering if there's time dilation between the dimension being attacked and our own dimension. Might want to ask about that, once we've dealt with Mr. Freeze.

>>39707223
Didn't see that many asking about it, but I'll try to include it as an option the next time the topic (or Delax) pops up again.

>>39707253
Was just two or so, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to mention it. Fair enough though.

>>39707160
Pally isn't going to kill Mili like that. Stop worrying and trust the QM. Palading Quest is more laid-back and relaxing than regular PoJ. It's built more on cute.

>>39707263
>Palading Quest is more laid-back and relaxing than regular PoJ. It's built more on cute.
You make some awfully strong assumptioms there anon.
I wouldn't bet on that if I were you.
You might remember that if we would have voted slightly different, Sera would have gotten eaten.

>>39707263
Sure he would. Especially since her mother could bring her back if she dies, don't know why you think its any less dangerous than the main quest, especially after the last two threads.

>>39707263
>Stop worrying and trust the QM.
I trust Pally to have actions have appropriat consequences, if she gets in over her head, she can definitly die.

>>39707263
>Palading Quest is more laid-back and relaxing than regular PoJ. It's built more on cute.
We literally almost killed our seniour paladong girl the other thread.

>>39707296
Well 'almost' isn't quite true, we would have had the option of trying to sneak out after we failed to convince the adults. Would have 'just' been harder.
There were several chances to lead to her death however, thats true.

>>39707296
>paladong
You trying to tell us something? Is Pally hiding a surprise for us?

You want to offer to help Velya with her problems, but you have plenty of your own right now, and she did tell you not to worry.

“Thank you for your time my Lady” you say with a bow of your head “I shall speak to my Mother, and Konig as well, perhaps they can offer some insight.”

“Go with my blessing” says Velya, sounding a little distracted. You depart to seek out your mother.

“Back so soon?” Asks your mother, watching Vivi playing in the distance with some human and elven children that look around his age, wait, why would there be human and elven children in Velya’s Heaven?

Oh...

“I said *did you forget your halberd or something*” says your mother, smiling as she reclines on a bench.

“Oh, what, no” you say, shaking your head “I wanted to ask about how you defeated the Killing Frost?”

“That” says your mother moodily “wasn’t easy – let me know when you’re going after it again, I’ll come with.”

“And” you say “I thought Konig might have some suggestions, being a war god.”

“He might” concedes your mother “seeing as how he defeated the other two.”

“Other two what?” you ask

“The Sorrows” says your mother “I was tasked with hunting one, he went after the other two personally. Maybe if we compare notes it’ll give you some ideas, anyway, let’s both go see His Knightliness shall we?”

“Right” you agree hesitantly, wondering when this turned into a family outing.
---
The two of you appear in Konigs hall, behind a long list of petitioners, angel and followers of Konig alike.

You mother simply walks to the head of the queue, pulling rank on any angel that tries to impede her. You’re almost at Konigs throne when a tall angel in gleaming battle armour blocks her path. As he bears down on you both, a scowl on his face, your mother whispers to you “Oh great, Santiskar, we could be here all week, I’ll distract him, you sneak past him.”

You look around, with the long line of irritated petitioners, and the angels present, sneaking might be difficult, and using magic might trigger alarms.

What do you do?

>Mother knows best, follow her plan
>No sneaking, keep quiet and let your mother deal with Santiskar
>Talk your way past Santiskar
>Other (what?)

>>39707369
>Vivi playing in the distance with some human and elven children that look around his age, wait, why would there be human and elven children in Velya’s Heaven?
>Oh...
oh...

>>39707377
>ask what happened to Vivi's new friend.

>>39707377
>Mother knows best, follow her plan

>>39707282
>Especially since her mother could bring her back if she dies
That's grandads job. He brings her back and we try to take her away from school but she wants to stay with her friends so we let her stay.
>>39707377
>Mother knows best, follow her plan

>>39707377
>Mother knows best, follow her plan
I'm more surprised Velya doesn't have more children in her heaven, infant mortality in medieval times being what it is.

>>39707395
>That's grandads job. He brings her back
If he can, probably. Not sure if he can do that, since she would most likely show up in our heaven.

>>39707377
>Talk your way past Santiskar

>>39707383
...second. I need more feels

>>39707377
>Mother knows best, follow her plan

>>39707383
Maybe when we get back to Velya's heaven. We've got another thing to deal with right now.

>>39707425
We'll send him an invoice if that happens but we pulled someone out of dragon heaven so he should be able to.

>>39707470
Because Tiamat (?) wanted Ebby to be alive again. Not even Healing 5 can resurrect someone without their god's say-so.

For the killing frost, maybe if we research something hotter than fire and lightning *cough*Plasma*cough* and pioneer the use of magic with it, it might prove effective? Ilsa will porbably be the one to pull it off.

Just pitching an idea. I don't even know how legitimate that is.

Writing sneak

Please roll 1d20+17 more of a fellowship than agility thing, given the number of witnesses

>>39707486
Isn't lightning plasma?

>>39707486
>lightning *cough*Plasma*cough*
...Anon. You do know Lightning IS plasma?
The visible lightningbolt is the air getting turned into plasma by the current.

Rolled 13 + 17 (1d20 + 17)

>>39707492

Rolled 4 + 17 (1d20 + 17)

>>39707492
Try looking like you're supposed to be here

>>39707486
Too meta to use as a plan outright, although I guess it could come up if the plan was "do magical research on fire and hotness".

Rolled 6 + 17 (1d20 + 17)

>>39707492

>>39707486
>>39707507
Makes me regret in hindsight we didn't aspect the wild magic zone to magma or fire to deal with that guy. Researching a ultra-heat spell is definitly a idea to pursue.
Or we research long-distance teleportation and teleport him into the sun.

>>39707494
>>39707498
In brief flashes, yes. I meant something more sustained.
But it's not a good idea anyway, so whatever.

>>39707554
You can't really make plasma 'sustained' unless you have such a huge amount of it that the ambient temeprature doesn't cool it down anytime soon, which would be pretty unhealthy for everything around. Creating mini-suns isn't really much better than eternal winter.

>>39707485
It's not like I was planning to vote no if he tried but anons do stupid things.
>>39707486
Quickly Ilsa, to the Paladin Lab!

>Deific Angels Fire (once AA or Pally write it)
>Choir based around being really, really good at fire/plasma/angelfire/etc
>Fire-empowered (w/deific interference to boost fire empowerment) angels using [Unnamed Forest Wellspring] (predominantly Archons and Eladrin, don't know if our Succu-angels are as good at fighting), might combine with second.

>>39707570
>Quickly Ilsa, to the Paladin Lab!
We really need to get a Oreian mage guild started. We got a whole race of natural magic-users, we might have more sorceresses than Dornmer got wizards.

>>39707569
Maybe we should go a bit more low-tech first.
Something like Greek Fire or Napalm, that sticks to the target and is hard to put out.

And *then* we can consider things like photon rays and cones of plasma.

>>39707618
>Maybe we should go a bit more low-tech first.
>Something like Greek Fire or Napalm, that sticks to the target and is hard to put out.
If submerging him in lava doesn't do much to him, then napalm and greek fire is pretty much useless and far worse in every regard to using appropriate fire magic.

>>39707569
hmmmmmm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InNHB9J0eqs

we have six time more wings, therefore it should be six times more effective, right?

>>39707629
>then napalm
Well, there is napalm that burns hotter than the average temperature of lava. But then again, thats hardly 'low-tech' anymore and we can do better with magic anyway.

>>39707492
Is the sun being a giant super-hot ball of fire a thing thats known, or true, in-setting?

>>39707671
>Is the sun being a giant super-hot ball of fire a thing thats known, or true, in-setting?

It's known and true, yes.

Well, your mother knows what she’s doing, you hope...

The angel, Santiskar approaches and says to your mother, rather abruptly “Syderis, what are *you* doing here?”

You mother puts her hands on her hips and matches Santiskars scowl with her own.

“Really?” she says “I’m gone for years and that’s how you greet me? No *I was so worried* or even a *glad to see you’re not dead*!”

“I am of course happy to see that you’re alive and healthy” says Santiskar rather stiffly “but still, you-”

“Oh yes” says your mother, throwing up her hand theatrically “There’s always a *but* isn’t there.”

It quickly becomes clear than your mother and Santiskar have some sort of history and soon everyone in the Hall is focused on their argument, it seems like Santiskar and your mother used to be lovers a long time ago, in fact Syderis confirms it when she says the only reason she liked Santiskar was that he-

Oh mother no! Too much information!

With everyone’s attention diverted, it is easy to simply walk up to Konigs throne. Not even your bright red shining cheeks attract any attention as you say to Konig, just as his latest petitioner leaves “Ah, my Lord, a moment of your time?”

“Sireyi” he says in surprise, gazing down on you from his throne “what brings you here?”

“I wanted to talk about the Sorrows” you say “the Killing Frost specifically, and how to beat it.”

“I never fought the Killing Frost” says Konig “Your mother, Syderis, wait, is that her arguing with Santikar?”

“Yes” you say, your blush redoubling.

“This will just take a few minutes” Konig promises the next petitioner in line before saying to you “collect your mother, lets talk in private.”
---
In a smaller audience room you explain to both Konig and Syderis the effect the Killing Frost is having on the world in general, and your realm in particular.

“And so you plan on confronting it yourself?” asks Konig, the three of you sat in ornate chairs.

“Once I have a plan, yes” you say firmly.

“It won’t be easy” cautions your mother “It draws creatures of cold to it, the last time we had to battle past ice elementals, frost giants, an army of them.”

“It didn’t have them when I fought it” you say.

“It will now” says your mother grimly “they do that.”

“She is right” says Konig “The Sorrows are...representatives of larger forces, and so they draw those who are part of such a thing to them, I think the Killing Frost is the most elemental, the most direct, not stupid, but simple in its ways.”

“So how do I beat it?” you ask.

“Attrition” says your mother, looking unhappy “I lost a lot of good friends chasing that thing across the world, but it has its limits, and when weakened, it is vulnerable and you can kill it.”

“Velyas idea to trap it has merit” says Konig, reflectively “but there are a number of weapons that might be able to kill it, without needing a long battle to weaken it.”

“Such as?” you ask, could it really be so simple as the right tool?

“Oh various ones” says Konig “some very hard to get hold of, my churches on other planes know of a location of a few of these, some weapons of elemental fire, others of death, soul taking, even one that supposedly can kill gods.”

Your response?

>Why not just gather the gods and we go kill it together
>Tell me about these weapons
>I’ve decided how to beat it (options in next post)
>Why didn’t you kill the Sorrows before?
>Other (what?)

>>39707824
>Tell me about these weapons
>Why didn’t you kill the Sorrows before?

What happened to the angel guy trapped in the sword? Did they ever get him out of that?

>>39707824
>Tell me about these weapons
>Why didn’t you kill the Sorrows before?
>Why not just gather the gods and we go kill it together

>>39707824
>Why not just gather the gods and we go kill it together
>Tell me about these weapons
>Why didn’t you kill the Sorrows before?

>>39707824
>frost giants
>“It will now” says your mother grimly “they do that.”
Well, fuck. We should have fucking done that Bokin sidquest! Should have followed the plot hooks, guys. Now we'll have to kill him.

>>39707857
Are you dumb or just trolling?

>>39707824
>Why didn’t you kill the Sorrows before?
>Why not just gather the gods and we go kill it together
>Tell me about these weapons

>>39707824
>Tell me about these weapons
About that god-killing one specifically.

>>39707857
Yes, because obviously those are the ponly frost giants in the entire plane.
Not like the killing frost would lure regular evil aligned frost giants, nope obviously good frost giants would totally follow him. Makes sense.

>>39707888
We don't have any need for especially god killing weapons. The last thing Sireyi needs is all other gods turning against her and imprisoning her for breaking the compact.

>>39707824
>Why not just gather the gods and we go kill it together
>Tell me about these weapons
>Why didn’t you kill the Sorrows before?

Keeping note of that 'god killer' for the Lord of Life himself, but I don't think I want to use it on the Killing Frost. Maybe one of the other weapons.

>>39707938
>Keeping note of that 'god killer' for the Lord of Life himself
The Lord of Life is not a god. It even hands out the Deific power it gets from killing gods to his followers.

>>39707908
The KF has gained god powers from eating gods. We do need a weapon against him. Now, it may end up sticking out of Delax at some point, but that's a totally different story.

>>39707958
>The KF has gained god powers from eating gods. We do need a weapon against him.
see
>>39707949

>>39707958
>The Lord of Life” it said, standing over you “has no need for the power it consumes from the gods it kills

>>39707975
>>39707963
But Killing Frost actually uses it. Obviously, a weapon against gods would help us against divine abilities.

>>39708003
>But Killing Frost actually uses it.
Sure, but the argument was we woul need it against the LoL. And getting a specific god killing weapon, which will be far harder to acquire than the other ones, just isn't worth the trouble for the Killing Frost.

>>39708024
How about Delax? The guy that wants to kill us and our family? And is a god.

>>39708044
And if we kill him all other gods turn against us and at best imprison us forever. Fantastic idea.
Do you people not read this story or something?

>>39708044
Who we can't kill because even trying to would break the compact?

Post taking a while to write, please wait patiently

>>39708044
I like how your argument went full circle from all the backpedaling.

>>39708059
>>39708078
You say that now, but I bet when he comes to our home, murdering our children and destroying their souls so we can't resurrect them it sure would be nice to have a weapon that can hurt him.

>>39708130
We already have weapons that can hurt him.
How about we just don't let him into our home to do these things? Not to mention he would have to break into Velyas heaven to get to our children.

>>39708130
> Hur dur I don't have a argument so I just spout nonsense
Just stop, you are just emberassing yourself.

>>39708130
You do realise that not leaving the plane for who-knows how long to find that weapon drastically increases the chance of that never happening?
Its not like we can't find the weapon afterwards anyway.

>>39708130
I don't believe he plans on hurting our children. I think he hopes to make us the one who attacks so he can claim self deference.
It's the only thing that makes sense other than he's mad/an idiot.

>>39708221
The weapons aren't really designed in a way specifically aimed at our children, so its questionable if he intends to target them at all.

>>39708257
But they can't harm us as they're too weak. there's something we're missing here.

>>39708285
That specific one we found was too weak. There are probably stronger versions around.
And I'm not sure how much weaker than us our mother is.

>>39708285
All of the weapons are also designed to kill succubi. The weapons have no chance of actually killing us, but they would probably sting a lot more than regular ones.

Wait, doesn't the compact not enforce vengeance for gods killed by mortal armies and worshipers? Maybe he intends to fight us to drain our power, and then let his army do the actual work of killing us leaving him exempt from retribution?

>>39708318
>Maybe he intends to fight us to drain our power, and then let his army do the actual work of killing us leaving him exempt from retribution?
Possible, but it seems unlikely to me, since we can completly regenerate using just 1 DP. And we have a army of our own.
I suspect more he is making these weapons for his troops against our succubi, and they are aimed at making us more concerned with healing the afflicted and drain our resources that way.
I already said it before, its absurdly unlikely he intends to march a army against us, that would be incredibly stupid, given the geography of the continent.

“Before we even talk about the weapons” you say to Konig “Why don’t we simply gather some of the Gods, even the Heroes of the Horn and go and destroy the Killing Frost?”

Konig gives you a sad smile “if only things were that easy” he says “Tell me Sireyi, do you wonder why the gods stay in the Heavens instead of living amongst their people?”

“Sometimes” you admit “but what does that have to do with-”

“We have enemies” says Konig “Enemy pantheons, old servants of the Lords of Life, demon lords, so many enemies. Let me ask you this: Delax seems to want you dead, correct?”

“Yes” you say

“And what if the moment you left Oreia” says Konig “He appeared there with his army and started killing your people?”

You pause, a sudden fear filling your body, could he be doing that right now?

Your mother lays a hand on your arm “Velya watches for you” she says quietly “She would alert you.”

You relax a little “So if the gods help” you ask “your enemies will what, just attack?”

“Maybe” says Konig “Or maybe not – they might decide the time they would have wouldn’t be enough for their plans, or that it could be a trap, but yes, the more eager ones could attack Dornmer, or any other realm with my worshippers, if I joined you in hunting the Killing Frost. Sireyi the gods don’t walk with mortals because we all have a rather uneasy peace, and so must always be ready to intervene should something happen. We could hunt and kill this creature, but it would take time, and possibly weaken or even kill some of us, and so we cannot.”

“So that’s why you prefer to work through mortals” you say “you’re on guard against greater threats?”

“That and we can’t be everywhere at once” says Konig.

“I guess that makes sense” you concede “So why am I having to deal with this thing now? Why not kill it before?”

“I’ll answer this one” says Syderis, as Konig opens his mouth to speak. The God of Warriors stops and instead gestures for your mother to continue.

“Sireyi the Killing Frost – all of the Sorrows – are representatives of larger forces. Killing them will release their power into the world for several years, before it eventually disperses throughout the planes. When the Lords of Life had been defeated the world was damaged, and fragile, the mortal races few in number. Killing them would have unleashed disaster on the world, undoing everything the gods worked for.”

“So if I kill the Frost” you say “The winter gets worse?”

“For a few years yes” says your mother sadly, her hands on your shoulders “but after that it will improve.”

“In that case” you say, with a heavy heart “tell me about the weapons”

“There’re five that are easiest to get hold of” says Konig “The first is the Heart of Azulkire: Azulkire was an Efreeti noble slain by a rival, who imprisoned a number of fire elementals into Azulkires body, and then cut out his heart. The Heart is kept in a sealed clay container and if broken, will release all of the magic of the fire elementals at once – an explosion that could devastate a country or kill something like the Killing Frost.”

“And where would I find it?” you ask.

“Interdimensional market” says Konig with a shrug “My followers know the merchant who owns it, and can probably convince him to part with it, for a price in the hundreds of thousands of gold, or a trade of some kind.”

“And the others?” you ask

“The Flame of the Empire” says Konig “The ancestral weapon of the ruling family of Genasia. Its a spear that-”

“Wait” says your mother “The Genasians, really?”

“Yes” says Konig firmly “the Flame is imbued with the elemental power of generations of the ruling family – all of them sorcerers with a focus in fire magics. And the empire was founded a long time ago after a war against one of the Lords of Life that fled to their plane. I doubt they will let you wield it – but they have reason to want the Lords of Life, and their servants dead. With a little persuading, they would send an expeditionary force, or even an army to help.”

The Genasians are aggressive imperialists!” retorts your mother “invite them to this plane and they’ll want to stay! Anyone who doesn’t fit their ideal of what a ruling caste is will either be *invited* to join as a member state or taken as slaves.”

“That one does have some risks” admits Konig. “So those are the fire-based ones, now the Reapers Blade is a scythe that was once the weapon of a god of death, who was killed by a rival god. The Reapers Blade is somewhere in a land that was devastated by the gods battle and is overrun by undead, cannibals and assorted monsters. Finding that one is going to be the challenge. As the weapon of a god of death it can kill anything, perhaps even another god.”

“That one almost sounds like a fun trip” comments your mother.

“The Soul Gem of Jankiris The Mad was made by a lich who lived up to his name” continues Konig “It forms part of a vast treasure hidden inside a mountain that’s filled with traps and monsters, and the internal structure of the place rearranges itself regularly. Getting to that one will pose an interesting challenge I expect. The Soul Gem cannot kill the Killing Frost, but can be used to trap it, you just need to get close to it.”

“A dungeon created by a mad lich” you say “wonderful.”

“And the last one” says Konig “The god-slaying one. There is a race called the Qwekir that-”

“Wait” You say “I’ve fought one of those” you explain about the spy you found, and your fears that there may be others.

Konig and Syderis share a grim look “We’ll keep watch for them” says your mother “Thank you Sireyi.”

“So as you would expect” says Konig “They have built a number of weapons that they believe can kill gods. And they guard them closely, except for the Fellblade – one of their failures – it *can* take the life of a god, but it drains the wielders life to power itself once unsheathed, even the toughest mortal would be dead within seconds. Given how long a battle against a god can last, it was deemed impractical, and hidden away. It is guarded, but not as well as the other weapons they made.”

“Can it be wielded safely?” asks your mother.

“Not by a mortal” says Konig “But a Goddess, particularly one of Life? Yes, I believe her ability to heal will outpace the harm it does.”

“Thank you my Lord” you say, thinking over what he has told you. You wonder what your next move is.

>I will think on this (exclusive, delays decision until later)
>I have decided what to do (plan options in next post)
>I will retrieve one (or more) of the weapons (options in next post)
>Other (what?)

Getting weapons is not reliant upon picking a plan now and can be combined with making a plan later (first option).

Putting plan/weapon options in next post to allow players to discuss options, plus if picking a weapon is chosen in this vote, more details on the weapons will be revealed before choosing which weapon(s) are to be collected.

Voting time 15 minutes to allow for reading/discussion.

>>39708649
>I will think on this (exclusive, delays decision until later)
>I will retrieve one (or more) of the weapons (options in next post)
>What would happen if the Frost would be killed on another plane? Like the Elemental Plane of Fire? Would its winter still be unleashed in this one?

>>39708649
>I will retrieve one of the weapons
>I will think on this

>>39708649
Well, we just got warned that leaving for a prolonged time is a bad idea. So the Gem and the Fellblade are right out as options.
The spear sounds like a terrible idea. The Heart could be good, seems like our best option. Depending on how dangerous the place is, we could probably send a group without Sireyi for the Scythe.

>>39708649
>I will retrieve one (or more) of the weapons (options in next post)

>>39708649
>I will think on this (exclusive, delays decision until later)
>I will retrieve one (or more) of the weapons (options in next post)

>>39708649
The Heart, maybe, but it depends on what the merchant asks us to acquire for him in return.

I don't feel like dealing with another nations of dicks, so I'd prefer to avoid the Flame, though maybe, if the other options are untenable.

The Scythe seems like the easiest to retrieve out of the lot, though I wonder how a weapon of Death would react to being wielded by a Goddess of Life.

Puzzle dungeon made by a mad lich? Yeah, no, Gem is off the list, even if it is a win button.

Fellblade seems like a good candidate, but it would likely provoke the Qwekir.

>>39708715
Velya is watching for us, so we can still go do things. All of the options except the Flame might require leaving for a time.

>>39708686
>>39708743
Stop picking mutually exclusive options, fuck.

>>39708649
Options and cool weapons aside, Konig seems to be nice for once! Not once have i felt the urge to punch hiM!

But yeah the spear is what has me most interested for us to obtain. Shame that will be increadibly hard. The Scythe seems like the better options as Undead should be weak against us and seems fairly straightforward to get. Smash undead, smash bigger undead, take weapon. But I really do like the idea of a fire spear...

>I will retrieve one (or more) of the weapons (options in next post)

>>39708776
>Stop picking mutually exclusive options, fuck.
>Getting weapons is not reliant upon picking a plan now and can be combined with making a plan later (first option).
>and can be combined with making a plan later (first option).

>>39708776
>Velya is watching for us, so we can still go do things
Velya watching for us doesn't help if we are somewhere we can't get out fast. Which is more than likely with Fellblade and Gem.

>>39708776
> though I wonder how a weapon of Death would react to being wielded by a Goddess of Life.
Well death is part of life isn't it? Can't have one without the other. Balance and all.

>>39708806
Not in this setting, no its a different domain. Then again, I worry mostly about if getting that Scythe might not agitate Eskia.
Its a minor concern, but still.

>>39708782
>But I really do like the idea of a fire spear...
Well, its not like we can't make a holy fire spear ourselves.

>>39708649
>I will retrieve one of the weapons
Ok so the Heart of Azulkire costs gold (maybe celestial iron), The Flame of the Empire is long term problems that I don't want, the Reapers Blade could be fun and we could take our sister or just send her to find it, “The Soul Gem of Jankiris The Mad would take to long and the Fellblade may be pocking the hornets nest so maybe?

>>39708806
Maybe.

>>39708818
It's possible they're complimentary domains rather than conflicting, depending on the previous wielders thoughts about the relation of life and death and their stance on undead.

>>39708790
I blame getting two hours of sleep and the first option saying it's exclusive when it's only exclusive with a single other option.

>>39708857
>I blame getting two hours of sleep and the first option saying it's exclusive when it's only exclusive with a single other option.
Yeah it was confusingly phrased.

>>39708857
>It's possible they're complimentary domains rather than conflicting
Possible, I suppose. Depends on how the Undeath/Death issue works in this setting. If Undeads are part of the Death domain, its definitly conflicting.

Writing thinking about it + picking a weapon

Apologies about the phrasing on how the options worked with each other.

>Not wanting to deal with empire of assholes

Where's your sense on fun?

>>39708856
>the Reapers Blade could be fun and we could take our sister or just send her to find it
I would love to send our sister for it, but for one part, she is unlikely to leave her nation behind. And on the other hand, she is unlikely to hand it over once she got it.

>>39708889
We already dealt with one of those. Its gotten old.

>>39708715
My own opinion on it:
>Heart of Azulkire:
Could be good, but we don't have that much gold and I'm wary of what he'll want to trade for. Maybe if he's willing to take a service or job instead. This will require some serious negotiations.

>Flame of the Empire:
Nope. Not an option unless we can make them leave afterwards. Even if we make them promise to leave after killing it I suspect they'll take their sweet time getting around to it and settling in to our realm in response.

>Reaper's Blade:
Could also be good. It'll be an adventure too, and we could bring a bit of life to that realm while looking. Also skellies. rattleratllerattle.

>Fellblade:
They'll likely be alerted and we'd end up having to deal with them sooner than I'd be comfortable. I'm sure their attention is spread across multiple realms and I'd rather they don't focus all their attention on ours because of that stunt just yet. Also, even as a life goddess, prolonged combat against the Killing Frost with that thing is not good.

Just my two cents.

>>39708894
>she is unlikely to hand it over once she got it.
I'm ok with that as grabbing another for ourselves was part of our plan.

>>39708917
I forgot

>Soul Gem of Jankiris:
We want to kill it, not imprison it again. Plus we'd have to guard the gem afterwards. So no to that as well.

>>39708929
>I'm ok with that as grabbing another for ourselves was part of our plan.
Not really no, we don't have that many great options we could afford doing two. Except 'maybe' the Heart, depending on if he is willing to trade for a celestial iron item we could craft, not sure how high-power we can craft at this point.

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>>39708917
>Also skellies. rattleratllerattle.

>>39708649
Reaper's Blade. Not only would it take down the Killing Frost, but it'd also likely put a dampener on both Dalex's plans and make the Lord of Life question coming south just yet.

We'd need someone skilled in necromancy, though...is it time to give Blue the Necronomicon?

>>39708964
>We'd need someone skilled in necromancy, though
Not really.

>>39708948
>The plane the Reaper's Blade is on is Dark Souls
>Nito is the now-dead god

>>39708964
>We'd need someone skilled in necromancy, though
Why?

>>39708977
>>39709011
I want to suggest something.

>Blue knows all the necromancy
>We take her to a realm filled with pseudo-wild undead
>she takes control over all of them
>She now has an even bigger undead army than the lord of life.

>>39708947
So we check out the Heart then take our first paladin on an epic quest beside her goddess. And address her as "My Paladin" the whole time.

>>39709060
>And address her as "My Paladin" the whole time.
Isla is our first paladin IIRC

>>39709050
That...huh.

>>39709050
>No particular reason for it to be her
>It never said the undead were wild, just that they had overrun the place
>That's likely beyond her abilities, even with the book, judging by Isla's benefit, especially since the undead are likely all under some lich king or possibly even a god of undeath, and even if she could do that, it would take a very long time
>Except she doesn't, because the LoL is still a stronger necromancer and can wrest control over any of the undead from her easily *and* the army is on another plane, which even with magic, will take even longer to carry over

>>39709050
She doesn't know any necromancy right now, and there aren't any spells for such mass-control in the list, she would probably need to read the necromancy book and then study for a long time to pull that of. And I really don't want her to have that army, largely because the LoL is definitly a way better necromancer and could just take it from her.

>>39709077
You might be right but we still take Blue instead and we still call "My Paladin"
Arguing with your goddess, that's a paladin.

>>39709050
>Pally: DO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

>>39709060
>Not going to a tavern and recruiting a party of young, adventuring succubi and orcs

>>39709189
Handing out a quest to succubi adventurer would be cool, but not really something we can risk on this.

>>39709197
>Handing out a quest to succubi adventurer would be cool, but not really something we can risk on this.
Are you really suggesting that it would be better to whore them out for the heart? I hope you are because I'm sure we could find some willing volunteers.

>>39709266
No I'm not, and if you think about it for a second you will realise a interplanar merchant of that calibre can easily afford to summon succubi whores for himself if he wanted to.

>>39709266
Your trolling attempts are getting pathetic, anon.

>>39709276
Fair point.
>>39709284
>getting pathetic
>getting
It's my first one, but yes it was pathetic.

“I need to think about how to deal with the Killing Frost carefully” you say “I’m not ready to finalise a plan against it. I am ready to acquire one of the weapons though, or perhaps more than one.”

“Very well” says Konig “The Heart is expensive, but my church could purchase it”

“And ask what in return?” your mother asks sharply, to you she says “Velyas church isn’t as rich as Konigs, but could probably buy it without having to trade away more of Milerna’s freedom.”

“I never said I’d ask for that” says Konig calmly, too calmly.

“Or” you suggest “I could craft some sort of item in trade.”

“That might work” admits Konig “The owner is a dealer in rare objects and items of power but” he adds “he might drive a hard bargain, or demand a higher price in trade, perhaps its better if I were to simply buy it for you.”

Hmm...you’re not sure what he wants, but Konig wants *something*.

“The Genisians” you say “sound like bad news, perhaps they’re better avoided.”

“I agree” says your mother.

“Dealing with them will be risky” says Konig “but for thousands of years their ruling caste has been sorcerers with elemental-based powers – powers they gain by undergoing rites in mystically-charged locations. You might gain more than just a weapon by dealing with them.”

You wonder if the risk is worth the potential improvements to your forest.

“The Reapers Scythe could be useful” you say “a quick scrying spell, a few teleports and then I’m out of there.”

“Ah the exuberance of youth” your mother says, patting you on the shoulder “if it was that easy it would have been stolen long ago, no, prepare for a long slog through mists and swamps.”

“If I leave Oreia for too long-” you start.

“Velya and I can watch over it for a time” your mother reassures you “if you intend upon going in person and not sending agents.”

“Thank you mother” you say “The Soul Gem sounds useful, how strange a dungeon can one lich make?”

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Even without taking the scythe into account, I think that realm overrun by undead is great testing grounds for new life spells, research into countering undead, death magic resistant crops, ect..

If that'll pay off. Maybe we don't have to, but I think it would be interesting.

“Very” says your mother “but it will be with a treasure hoard too, so perhaps you can gain more than just the weapon.”

“True” you say “and I think taking the Fellblade might provoke the Qwekir”

“It’s held in a storage building” says Konig “if you retrieve it by stealth it might be some time before they realise its gone, and even a simple copy would fool a casual inspection of the contents of the place. If you used force then yes, they’d probably come after you straight away.” And as much as Alythkir wasn’t a threat to you, you have a whole kingdom to worry about.

You wonder which weapon, or weapons you should retrieve, and who will get them.
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15 minutes to discuss and ask questions, then a five minute vote.

Vote will include options of who to send, defaults are: You; Your Twin; A group of succubi; some of your allies (to be picked later). Regardless of the option chosen there will be a later vote about who else goes with, initial vote is about who is leading the expedition.

If retrieving the Heart, a follow up vote will be held about *how* it will be purchased – this will be in addition to *who* is going to collect it.

Multiple weapons can be chosen – as many as you want.

There will be an option to restrict to one weapon only in your vote. If multiple weapons are chosen, I will take any with more than half the votes, or the single most popular if none get more than half the votes.

>>39709363
I think we all largely agree that the Heart and the Scythe are the ones worth checking out.
I would not risk sending anyone except Sireyi personally after the Gem. Lichs be crazy mang.

Question Pally. If we send a group of agents, will we get to play that out, or will you determine their success some other way?

>>39709381
>If we send a group of agents, will we get to play that out, or will you determine their success some other way?

Players choice

>>39709363
The Reaper weapon. Merely having it would get Delax off our ass for a time, and we could then form a defensive pact around this weapon with several neighboring kingdoms. It is objectively the most powerful weapon long-term.

>>39709363
Since we have Succubi with 4th level spells and everything, how powerful are the most powerful succubi in our service? In relation to our other allies?

The main problem I see is that we don't really have much agents to send anymore. Sofia can't leave Dalvin. Shahulzer, Nicolvren and Ebonsong would have problems in the narrow dungeon and in the swamp. Except Ebby in the latter. And thats pretty much all our really powerful companions.

>>39709346
And Konig is making me want to punch him again.

>>39709381
With the new information about the Fellblade, I kinda want to go after it as well.

I'm somewhat unwilling to go after the heart if we'd accept another deal from Konig as the solution. For a god of warriors, he sure reminds me of a certain shadowy dragon.

>>39709363
So, what I'm thinking is:
>We make a fake weapon
>Konig buys the heart
>Blue goes for the scythe
>Our aunt and Jal go for the Fellblade
>We ignore the Empire

>>39709405
>Merely having it would get Delax off our ass for a time
Or get on our ass faster. Afterall he knows we can't kill himj without getting all the other gods on our ass. Actually the Gem would be better deterrent against him.

>>39709428
>if we'd accept another deal from Konig as the solution
Eh, its probably some stupid thing we'd agree to anyway, he just can't get himself to ask straight away.

>>39709381
We could hire a third party to get the Fellblade and I want to ask about Konigs price but yes.

>>39709363
Schyte would be my first choice. We can go there with some of our angels, priests, paladins and guards and do some nice undead cleansing while getting it. Would probably be good to bring blueberry and Isla as magic will probably be involved. Ebonsong would probably be good to bring to undead land what with swamps and all.

We can at let send someone to the trader to ask his price for The Heart. I mean it's seems rather simple to gain an artifact by just buying it rather than slug through a river of enemies. Most anyone can go there really.

Felblade seems nice but to much of a risk involved. We really do not need more hostile factions against us.

Spear is meh, nice but to many unknowns involved in the long term.

Dungeon... I don't know, traps are dangerous.

>>39709433
>Our aunt and Jal go for the Fellblade
Our aunt and Jal have absolutely no chance to steal that thing, completly lacking magic and all that. A group containing Isla 'might' have a chance, but the Fellblade is something that really only Sireyi should attempt, considering the enormous risks involved.
I'm pretty strictly against it, it doesn't even seem remotly worth the trouble.

>>39709428
I don't understand why you hate him so much. He's a cool guy.

>>39709437
He's already arming himself to kill us and our family. Getting a weapon similar in function, yet universal in scope, would definitely make him hesitate. Whoever's pressuring him, he'd hesitate before just diving upon the Scythe.

>>39709363
Personally I think the Heard and the Scythe are the best options.
I might have gone for the Gem if could actually *kill* KF, but it can't so it isn't suitable.

Question is if we go for the Heart, what could we make in exchange and should we make something worth more than what we initially give him as back up? I certain the merchant will refuse the first trade attempt and try to haggle something of more worth out of us.

>>39709437
>its probably some stupid thing we'd agree to anyway, he just can't get himself to ask straight away.
If it is, maybe. I don't want to trade away more of Milerna's time though. I feel bad for Sofia, all alone so frequently.

>>39709470
>Getting a weapon similar in function, yet universal in scope, would definitely make him hesitate.
I don't see why you think it would. It makes no sense. He KNOWS we won't use it pro-active. So it wouldn't pressure him at all. And the Scythe 'might' kill a god, its not even guaranteed.

>>39709483
>I don't want to trade away more of Milerna's time though.
I say its at least worth hearing. I agree we definitly won't bargain over the back of our daughter, especially not without Sofia here.

>>39709471
Reminder that we can make Life-related Artifacts due to our domain. Think an amulet/cloak/some-other-thing that confers extreme resilience, biological immortality and resurrection would be good enough?

The way I see it, the Heart, Scythe and Gem are the ones that a party without Sireyi might accomplish. But I doubt we have the resources for more than one such party and its a pretty big risk.
If we dop take Konigs deal, we would be free to possibly risk pursuing two other items, otherwise Sireyi would be too busy crafting.

>>39709471
We could always send the gem into the sun after we've captured KF in it.

>>39709484
Actually, we'd be quite justified using the Scythe against him, since he is arming his people with millions of them attuned specifically for succubi and us.

He's already got weaker versions of the scythe, and he's already shown intent to kill us, specifically. If we use the scythe against him, it would be seen as responding to lethal force with lethal force.

>>39709536
Too easily retrievable.

>>39709363
>>39709419
>Since we have Succubi with 4th level spells and everything, how powerful are the most powerful succubi in our service? In relation to our other allies?
I'd like to second that question, its pretty important to know what we can use here.

I gotta admit, a dungeon robbery with a team of succubi would be fun as hell as side-plot.

>>39709541
>Actually, we'd be quite justified using the Scythe against him
No we wouldn't. Its not about fair play or any such shit. if we seriously try to kill him, we break the compact. Reasons are irrelevant. It doesn_'t matter. Just 'having' the ability to kill someone isn't the same as trying to do so.

>>39709541
>If we use the scythe against him, it would be seen as responding to lethal force with lethal force.
That's not how the compact works.

>>39709419
>>39709567
You have some very skilled succubi in your realm, some of them are thousands of years old.

None are as powerful as you, but some are far stronger than your mortal allies.

The only issue is, is that the older succubi are the more independent-minded ones.

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>>39709536
I hope LoL has no way of retrieving it from the sun then. That would suck and bring us back to square one.

On an unrelated note, what do you guys think of using the undead realm for testing of life-related/anti-undead research and experiments after the scythe is retrieved/not gone after in the first place?

>>39709599
>The only issue is, is that the older succubi are the more independent-minded ones.
Well, maybe they could be convinced if they get a share of the spoils.

>>39709599
What about our angel-succubi? Are they good?

5 minute vote. Not FD so I’ll try to include all valid votes, but please be clear in your vote.

Restrict to one weapon only?
>Y/N

Retrieve Which Weapons? (pick all you want)
1 – Heart of Azulkire
2 – Flame of the Empire
3 – Reapers Blade
4 – Soul Gem of Jankiris the Mad
5 – The Fellblade

Who?
A – Sireyi
B – Azure Empress
C – Some of your other allies (i.e. Sofia, Ebonsong etc)
D – A band of adventurous succubi

If picking multiple weapons please pair the number and letter, e.g. 1A, 3B.
The same person can be tasked with retrieving multiple weapons.

>>39709454
>Dungeon... I don't know, traps are dangerous.
So
>They're a team of succubus rouges on a mission from their goddess.
My brain says "No! Bad anon! Don't make me get the rolled up news paper" but my sense of fun says "Make Pally write this!"
>>39709504
This is worth looking into.

>>39709629
Good? yes. But most of them were young succubi.

>>39709633
1C
3A
4D

>>39709633
N
1A
3C
4D

>>39709633
This is a bit awkward now Pally, since our response depends on Konigs deal to a large part, since it decides if we can afford the Heart or not and if Sireyi is free to find something else.

>>39709633
N

1C
3A
4D

>>39709633
If we don't select Sireyi for getting the Heart, that doesn't lock us out of having her churn out artifacts to pay the cost, right?

>>39709633
1A
3D
4C

>>39709633
N

1 ( C )
3 ( A B )
4 ( D )

>>39709669
the option is about *who* will physically go to collect it

>>39709664
The price is in a separate vote, there will be an option to refuse

>>39709633
>N
1C
3A
4D

>>39709669
I think our friends can offer the deal in our stead, and present the product once the deal is struck and we get around to making it.

>>39709633
N
1C , assuming Konigs deal is worth taking otherwise A
3A, if Sireyi doesn't need to cract
4D

>>39709633
N
1A
3B
4D

voting time extended by 2 minutes from now in light of new info

>>39709633
Y
1C K-man if we're ok with his price
3AB
4D
5 Look in to a third party that can't be tracked back to us or don't do it.

>>39709708
>>39709685
>>39709660
Look at
>>39709699
>the option is about *who* will physically go to collect it
In case you voted 1A to have Sireyi craft

>>39709699
I assume voting A or C means we can still drag the Empress along if she agrees?

>>39709725
I mean we have the highest charisma out of everyone, we should be the one negotiating the price.

>>39709736
>I assume voting A or C means we can still drag the Empress along if she agrees?

Yes. Voting closed, counting

>>39709504
Writing some Life artifacts now.

Captcha needs to fucking stop with the matching images nonsense.

>>39709699
>the option is about *who* will physically go to collect it
Oops
>>39709716
should read
1A
3ABC (Ebonsong)
4D
5 Look in to a third party that can't be tracked back to us or don't do it.

1
3
4
5
A
B
D

>>39709769
We should be crafting those anyway, even if we don't need them for this deal.

Ok, winning options seem to be
1C
3A
4D
Writing this, but please do check my count.

Apologies for vote on the Heart not being clear.

>>39709772
Blue for price negotiation could've been a good idea actually.
Welp, that's hindsight.

>>39709861
Yeah, I just checked her sheet and saw she has slightly less fellowship, but so much free XP that we could have easily buffed her up to that level.
Oh well, I'm sure Pally won't nail us to this vote if preparations are being finalised and we reconsider.

Maybe we should still send someone like Jal or Isla with the succubi, to make sure they work together if they are so independent minded.

[Meta]

Topic for discussion

>Suggest ideas for Succubi Adventurers who will be going to the dungeon of the mad lich

I.e. Succubi bard whose chosen performance medium is miming.

Succubi Barbarian, ex-pirate, ex-accountant

Succubi wizard press-ganged into helping due to crimes against nature

Just go nuts, might not use them all, but have fun.

Party size will be restricted to 6 total, to make writing easier.

Players will control 1 leader (succubi, or not)

If you'd rather it happen off-screen (simple die-roll) instead of playing through, just say.

[End Meta]

>>39709943
One of Sireyis succubi priests is a must-have for the party, of course. Probably multi-classed from something she used to do before. Rogue would be good.

>ex-accountant
>Ms Carter
>keeps bitching about fledgling deities

>>39709943
That one half-orc ripped barbarian dude we helped out in the begging of this. He could be the leader of the succubi harem party.

>>39709986
Its a succubus party, and he was nowhere near high-level enough for this.

>>39709976
Do we have any succubi paladins? If not, we should make some.

>>39710030
We have succubi priestesses, no paladins sofar. We only got two paladins, I agree we might look into making some, but paladins are a far bigger deal than priests. Actually that gives me a idea.

>>39709943
>formerly jaded hedonistic succubus bard who turned her life around after coming to Oreia and hopes to become Sireyis first succubus paladin

>>39709994
>Players will control 1 leader (succubi, or not)
>Or not
Also, it's been 10 years, he's totally all leveled up now.

>>39709917
If we do they need to be packing DP
>>39709943
OCD rouge ward/locksmith who WILL learn how this lock works.
Conartist whos rep is over inflated because she "knows a girl" for most problems and then steals all the credit.

>>39710063
Or not is for someone like Jal or Isla. We're not going to risk this mission on some random Half-orc we met a decade ago.

>>39710063
He was serving as the protector of the goblin tribe the littlest palading ran into last thread, and if the Unfae was able to keep faffing about without his presence in the hunting party, it probably killed him at some point.

>>39710063
If he had, the goblins wouldn't have had a problem with the fae dude.

>>39710030
A chaotic neutral rogue succubi, who is secretly a spy sent by Delax and will try to steal the artifact after the party gets it.

>>39710132
I approve only if she has serious doubts about betraying Oreia and can be convinced that this nation is worth fighting for.

Actually I like the idea of a Spy, but we shouldn't know 'who' it is.

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>>39710061
>formerly jaded hedonistic succubus bard who turned her life around after coming to Oreia and hopes to become Sireyis first succubus paladin

>>39710152
I hadn't thought about her, actually. And I would hope the succubutt isn't quite that unhinged.

>>39709943
Succubus Ranger Volkna

Spent a lot of time in one the hells hiding, observing, and tracking which honed her skills.
In her youth she was a masterful prankster, but she went and pissed off some big shot demons and it got out of hand from there. They where petty and wanted to make her pay, but she wasn't important enough for them, or even their officers at the time, to go catch her themselves, so they just sent minions. She had to spend a lot of time avoiding and getting out of traps as a result. The conflict escalated as she became more skilled, and her 'pranks' became retaliatory sabotage. Top lieutenants started being sent, but she was too good at that point and they would fail again and again. Eventually the saviour showed up and killed one of the demons that wanted her captured (guess who). She gladly went along, getting tired of living in constant danger, though she's fine with a bit of adventuring now and again.

>>39709943
>Succubi wizard press-ganged into helping due to crimes against nature
I actually like the idea of that one, maybe make her a necromancer to give Sireyi serious creeps about sending her.

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>>39710170

I think we still need a party muscle, so to speak.

>>39710198
Yeah okay, fine.
I thought he wanted a back story and I'm not experienced in that department. It was on the spot too.

But basically, a ranger experienced in traps is my proposal.

>>39710209
Yeah, trying to think of something. Some sort of barbarian would make sense. Or the one trying to become a paladin >>39710061
Is a fighter or barbarian instead of bard, and since succubi like to imitate things, walks around in full plate with a giant sword, because thats how paladins look like right?

Do you guys think that going into a lich's dungeon would be a feat worthy enough to prove that you're an adult to a tribe of ice giants?

>>39710237
>I thought he wanted a back story

I do, as much or as little detail as you want to put in.

>>39710242
No, fuck off. Not going to risk this by sending someone way too weak for it. We are sending centuries to thousands of years old elite veterans here.

>>39710237
The backstory is fine, don't worry.

>>39710150
>>39710132
Thanks for the idea

>>39710280
>turns out its the one we're playing the entire time

>>39710241
Like a BK (Ultra) Greatsword? Or less giant of a sword?

>>39710302
Varying degrees of giant sword. I don't really care about 'how' giant exactly, just large enough a normal mortal wouldn't be actually swinging it around.

Old Incubus backstory I came up with. Has not been edited at all from what I sent via skype

Incubus Bard, sent to seduce a paladin of Correlon ends up falling in love with the target. Incubus' demon lord douche isn't taking that shit and kidnaps the wife just to be an asshole.

Made a pact with Corellon in exchange for help taking back his wife. Corellon saw it as an in to take down a powerful demon lord in his realm, and the Incubus was not executed immediately. Incubus then helps lead a small host of angels right into the demon lord's fortifications.

Wife died in the conflict. Incubus has been wandering the material plane since, been a damned long time since he 'filled up'. Stays out of big engagements since it saps his power, but he does enjoy watching humans be all heroic 'n shit. Reminds him of his wife.

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Corellon_Larethian Elves tolerate him in their settlements and he keeps his head down when not among elves.

His legend is kinda a thing among elves, which is really fucking annoying because after everything that's happened the last thing he wants is to be reminded of it.

>>39710417
Incubi don't exist.

>>39710417
Alright, so, his wife died in his arms, sappiness, blah blah blah, but it wasn't long until he realized 'Oh, wait, she's in heaven.' He begged Corellon to see her, but being an Incubus, he gets laughed at (not literally, he's a haughty elf that never laughs or is too polite or some shit). So he came to the material plane and keeps wandering around there, sometimes doing good acts in the hopes to earn his way into heaven, sometimes evil acts when he gets all depressed and frustrated and shit. His allignment got set to Chaotic Neutral because really all he wanted was to see his wife again.

Anyways, he composed a song based on the last words his wife told him before she went on up. "I'm just Going Home". Look up Going Home by Dvorak (or Libera, if you want the vocals if you want to hear it.

He's been known to break his fingers prior to visiting elves for prolonged periods of time so he wouldn't be hounded by requests. Naturally, they'd use all their elven healing and magic to fix him up, but by the time they were recovered he'd already be leaving.

Anyways, yeah, thought this might be a good time to see it go through, since that game lasted two sessions before everything bad that could happen did.

>>39710417
We don't have any incubus in oreia, not even sure they are a thing in the setting besides shapeshifting succubi.

>>39710430
>>39710437
And you can't make the mental leap to convert an incubi backstory I can't be bothered to edit into a Succubi backstory?

>>39709943
Bikini armor or pin-up uniforms for all of them. ALL OF THEM.

Also a bard/sorcerer who can't take a blindfold off and is has her arms or hands tied to her torso. She sings potent spells but has to be protected. The longer she sings, the more powerful the spell becomes and her clothes might or might not shrink/disappear as the more she sings

>>39710452
Because you could have easily done that yourself? So you gotta have to live with people taking it as you post it?

>>39710257
>>39710272
Oh, okay.
In that case I guess I should elaborate on a personality. I'm thinking somewhat guarded and cynical due to spending a life of running, hiding, fighting, ect.., but her new life has helped her recapture her old playfulness and and care-free attitude she had as a child. It likely shows more as she gets to know people, and she starts cracking jokes during rest periods.
idk just pitching.

>>39710430
>>39710437
Eh, it can be adapted pretty easily. Literally just turn every instance of he to she and incubus/incubi to succubus/succubi.

>>39710458
Isn't that the gimmick from that one animu game with the towers? Don't think it would work that well in this system.

>>39710458
>Bikini armor or pin-up uniforms for all of them.
>implying succubi have anything else

>>39710479
Somewhat generic to be honest, but its not like most of the other ideas are all that tricked out anyway. So, why not? Don't think the backstory will come up though, so not sure how useful that will be for you.

“The Reapers Blade is the most important weapon” you say “I’ll retrieve that personally. I think the Soul Gem of Jankiris and the Heart of Azulkire will be useful back-ups.”

“And will you retrieve those personally too?” asks your mother.

“No” you say, shaking your head “I knew a group of rather...special succubi who would be ideal to retrieve the Soul Gem.”

“Are you sure?” asks you mother with concern “Going into a dungeon created by a mad wizard could affect their minds.”

“With this lot” you mutter under your breath “who would notice?”

“Pardon?” asks Konig

“I said I have every confidence in them” you say. You feel bad, but it’s not *really* a lie, you do expect them to be able to do the job....in their own special way.

“I’ll send someone else to pick up the Heart of Azulkire” you say “I’ll figure out who, later. The most important thing to decide” you give Konig a hard look “is the price, and who will be paying.”

“My offer stands” he says calmly “My church will pay for it out of our own coffers. I ask only one small favour.”

“And that is?” you ask, raising an eyebrow at him.

“Milerna is doing very well at school” says Konig “Making friends, overcoming challenges, and she seems very happy, but I wonder, being away from her brother for such a long time, that must be hard on them both, after all they’ve been together since birth and-”

“You want Vivi to attend paladin school” you say flatly “even if Jal agreed, he has magical powers though – strong ones, he’s going to need training on how to deal with them.”

“There are mages guilds nearby” says Konig “a deal can arranged, and my own priests are-”

“Idiot thugs who don’t even know their conjuration from their transmutation!” snaps your mother, before adding to you “I’m sorry Sireyi, I’m sure you want to shout at him too.”

You do, a bit, ok more than a bit. You have five children, how many are going to end up in the church of Konig because you need to buy a favour?

“That decision” you say, resisting the urge to yell “isn’t mine to make, Jallarial is Vivi’s mother, and I’d want to speak to Isla and Sofia about it too.”

“Of course” says Konig with a smile “But now you know what my offer is, you can take it to them.”

“The Church of Velya could buy the Heart” points out your mother, as if scoring a point on Konig.

“They could” admits Konig “but depending upon the negotiating skills of whomever you send, it could seriously damage the churches finances.”

“Or I could make whatever the merchant asks for” you say quietly “that way I’m not trading away my son.”

Konig goes quiet for a moment and then says “He would receive the best education, be guarded all day and night, and would get to be with his sister, Sireyi, I ask you – how else where you planning on schooling him?”

---

And that’s it for the main quest, Junior Paladin(g) coming up next. Will there be a new cast-member soon?

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>>39710520
>“He would receive the best education, be guarded all day and night, and would get to be with his sister, Sireyi, I ask you – how else where you planning on schooling him?”
How about a mage school? We happen to have one in Donmer. Not to mention we could and should make one ourselves anyway. We got a wife with massive arcane knowledge cramped into her head and a nation of natural magic users.
Seriously Konig, fuck that shit.

>>39710437
>We don't have any incubus in oreia, not even sure they are a thing in the setting besides shapeshifting succubi.

Incubus as a separate species don't exist.

Succubi can become male through shapeshifting magic.

Some (rare) prefer to remain male and never take on a female form.

>>39710531
Eh, its not that bad.

>>39710520
How about no? With a side-helping of never?

>>39710520
...I eant Vivi to be with Mili. As much as I hate giving Konig another child, I hate separaring siblings this way much more. And them both together will enhance Mini Paladin Quest, my higgest solca.

>>39710520
It would be a nice addition to Junior Palading quest, but the choice is up to Jal.

>>39710598
>I hate separaring siblings this way much more
They seem to be pretty okay wioth it. I doubt they have serious issues in that regard, they are only apart for half a year, and taking both children away from Sofia is way worse.

>>39710598
*solace

>>39710520
Yeah, no. Vivi would probably not be happy in that place, its a pretty shitty place. He'd be a lot better of somewhere with more equal minded children, like a wizards guild.

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>>39710317
It's about as big as a sword can get without starting to get dumb. Also, looks fucking badass.

>>39710520
>how else where you planning on schooling him?”
Oh, I dunno, maybe the extremely trustworthy scores of Eladrin we command that understand both magic and how it interacts with angelic blood, or his grandmother, or Isla, who has enough arcane knowledge to put any mage in Dornmer to shame instead of trusting the usually-morally-bankrupt wizards that we're currently having a bit of a spat with?

>>39710616
You made more typos than that.

>>39710645
>instead of trusting the usually-morally-bankrupt wizards that we're currently having a bit of a spat with?
Actually he wants him taught by the just-as-morally-bankrupt-but-in-a-different-way wizards in his church, who are currently endangering the life of his sister with their inability to not be raging cunts for a second.

>>39710645
>It's about as big as a sword can get without starting to get dumb. Also, looks fucking badass.
Looks giant enough to me, and that armor is also pretty good.

>>39710611
Even if the kids are ok with it, I am not.
>>39710645
Yes, I did. I missed them because I am in a hurry.

>>39710681
We haven't actually met any Konig wizards yet. leave it to Konigs church to be the place where wizards are the most ethical people around.

>>39710719
>Even if the kids are ok with it, I am not.
Yeah because one should totally put their own wishes above the wishes of the children, thats how you raise happy people.

>>39710719
So let me get that right. Instead of letting him be educated in magic by some of the most competent magic users available, in a class only constisting of him and dozens of adolescent succubi. You want him to get send to a pseudo-military academy where he can get to be overshadowed by his sister all day?
Why do you hate that kid so much?

>>39710719
But Vivi's having fun with all of his new dead friends...

You are Milerna Jalweyen, angel-blooded and born paladin of Konig. You are 8 years old, and are attending paladin training at a church of Konig school.

http://pastebin.com/RE8br4uf

You’re all heroes! Or maybe you’re in a lot of trouble, it’s hard to say.

You’re back at the base, camp, thing.

After the goblins guided you to the edge of the forest, you all helped Sera walk back and were soon spotted by a pair of instructors. You were all put on horseback and rode back to the camp.

Sera is being looked after by one of the instructors in the infirmary tent.

You, Thomas, Chesi and Gilyan are in the patrol-commanders tent.

The Patrol-commander isn’t happy.

“-complete disregard for the rules, the most reckless, dangerous, stupid, childish behaviour I have ever seen!” He yells, walking up and down in front of you.

Patrol-commander Gavorn is an old man, like in his twenties or something and you don’t know much about him, except he has really short hair and a really loud voice.

“When we get back you are all on punishment duty, do you understand?”

“Yes sir” says Thomas dully, his eyes forward.

“Sir, I-” starts Gilyan

“What?!” bellows Patrol-commander Gavorn, coming to a stop in front of her.

“It was my fault” says Gilyan “It was my idea, I take full responsibility.”

Patrol-commander Gavorn pauses and then says in a calmer voice “noted cadet, your punishment will last longer, but that of your co-conspirators will be reduced.”

“But-” starts Chesi, looking at Gilyan in concern, whatever else she is planning on saying is lost as Patrol-commander Gavorn yells “and you shut your mouth hellbreed! I want none of your lies, are we clear?”

Yes, yes sir!” says Chesi shakily. Patrol-commander Gavorn stomps over to you and stops in front of you, “Well?”

“Well what, uh, sir?” you ask.

“Oh the Princess can speak, does the Princess have a brain, I asked a question Princess, I said *are we clear?* do you know what that means Princess? It means you say *Yes sir!* do you understand Princess?!” He has such a loud voice for a short man.

How do you respond?

>Yes Sir!
>It was my idea, not Gilyans
>Up yours old man, do you even know who I am?
>Other (what?)

>>39710845
>It was my idea, not Gilyans

>>39710845
>Yes Sir!
>It was my idea, not Gilyans

>>39710845
>Yes Sir!
>It was my idea, not Gilyans, Sir.

>>39710845
>It was my idea, not Gilyans
Paladings are honest!

>>39710845
>Up yours old man, you are fucking useless anyway

>>39710870
>>39710877
>Yes Sir!
>After he called Chesi a lying hellbreed
Fucking disgusting. Down voting this.

>>39710845
>It was my idea, not Gilyans
and if I was here to learn how to be a princess I would umm... (stops to think and gets yelled at)

>>39710915
Mili wouldn't even know thats a insult, its literally true.

>>39710845
>It was my idea, not Gilyans
>Call her hellbreed again and I'll fuck your shit up, sir.

>>39710787
You make good points. But I find it unlikely there will be a Mini Wizard quest for his harem episodes, he would be an interesting addition to Mili's mini quest. And he can still score with Chesi
>>39710829
>Up yours old man, I did the right thing
Independent minded rebellious palading is go. Justice is its own reward.

>>39710915
I'd complain about the lying, but I don't think she would know that hellbred is a bad thing, all the succubi come from there and are super nice.

>>39710845
>It was my idea, not Gilyans

>>39710943
He is assuming Chesi will lie just because she is a succubus. That's racist.

>>39710952
Yup, he can throw all that coal he's talking right up his chimney.

>>39710845
>It was my idea, not Gilyans
>Paladings are supposed to protect people

>>39710947
How about you actually play the damn character instead of whatever nonsense your doing here. Mili explicitly doesn't know that thats a insult to begin with. Time for that sort of thing is when she is old enough to understand it.

>>39710952
Stormblood, fuck yeah.

>>39710891
>>39710947
>>39710952
>making Mili act like some foul mouthed thug
>letting them drag her down to their level
Its like you don't even want to be a proper palading

>>39710845
Is it too grown up for Milerna to have battle mastery on so she can grab his hand when he slaps her and say "and my mother told me only the weak succumb to brutality."

>>39710952
I think you mean get his heart broken by Chesi only having eyes for his sister.

>>39711025
She cannot fight the problem with authority, it's in her blood. Literally. Storm elementals are the only ones that trend towards chaotic instead of neutral.

>>39711025
>Implying you don't want Mili to take after mama Jal

all those insecure edgefags
Seriously, just stop. That shit is making me cringe way too hard.

writing taking responsibility for your actions.

>>39711034
>"SUCCUMB!? How dare you speak that succubi gobbledygook to my face!"

>>39711055
They're almost as bad as the people that want to say yes sir.

>>39711055
I agree that the 'up yours' part isn't in character, but I think your definition of 'edge' is off, pal.

>>39711082
Thats at least in-character for a eight year old.