>>41980548

>General Quest Information
If you've never read Song of Iron and Hate (or Knock-Off Game of Thrones Quest, as it was originally called), it's a relatively long-running but sporadic quest following an Alternate Universe Song of Ice and Fire in which you play William Bordain, summarized in the first post.

> How do I play?
Any time I need rolls, I'll tell you what dice to roll, and will take the best of the first 3 results. Other than that, just make suggestions for courses of action, and the ones that receive the most support will be followed.

>How do rolls work?
We're using the Song of Ice and Fire RPG system, where you roll a pool of d6s and keep some of them, in order to meet a target number.

>What have I missed?

This link https://archive.moe/tg/search/text/William%20Bordain/type/op/

Holds every quest in the series except the very first one, where we generated the specifics of the House. So if you want to catch up, read those.

Pastebin with more detailed information coming soon.

Today, Page's overslept by an hour and a half, his work call went 75 minutes over, and he got home to find a tenant in need of an ambulance, turning his planned 3 hours of prep time into a 30 minute delay, and 10 minutes of prep.

FUCK YES

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>>41980548
Do you

>immediately call him forward for his news
>invite him to eat with you and your wife and speak while eating.
>Wait for a pause, and have him tell you in front of your wife
>Excuse yourself to talk to him.

MARITAL BLISS HINT: Your wife enjoys how much your rely on her for input in your affairs.

CONTINUITY NOTE: It was not uncommon for you to take breakfast with Korbis before you were wed. Since the wedding, the habit has not reformed. (This could be because Korbis wanted to give two newlyweds time to...enjoy each other's company in the morning, lingering sense of imposition given his initial reaction to your marriage, or any number of reasons.)

>>41980735
>invite him to eat with you and your wife and speak while eating.

>>41980735
>invite him to eat with you and your wife and speak while eating.

>>41980735
>invite him to eat with you and your wife and speak while eating.

We ask the wife everything anyway. Bacon and eggs are on us, Korbis.

>>41980735
>invite him to eat with you and your wife and speak while eating.
I just want food descriptions

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>>41980847
>I just want food descriptions

You filthy, perverted peasant.

>>41980735
>invite him to eat with you and your wife and speak while eating.

>>41980806
>>41980824
>>41980832
>>41980847

You look at Alyssa to gauge her mood. She seems perfectly content to let you handle this.

"For, come, take a seat. No need to stand on formality before noon."

He snorts lightly, before sitting. The main course of your breakfast is an ingenious little trick of the cook's. You're unsure what he calls it, but you've always called it the Shepard's Wake-up Call. It's a casserole in the vein of a shepard's pie, with a base of egg mixed with scallions, bacon, goat cheese and garlic, under a layer of hot minced corned beef, which itself is under a layer of diced potatoes and peppers.

Beside this heap of filling starch and protein, is a sweet-biscuit made from valley squash and cranberries.

Your drink is watered down wine, with fruit juices splashed in.

He helps himself to a few heaping spoons of the Wake-up Call and a Sweet-biscuit, and Stefon pours him a glass of the juiced wine.

"Well, my lord, it's to do with your great honkin' castle here. While you were broodin', you never really cared to investigate the grounds, then came the plots and the Hillmen, and since becomin' married, your wife and you have had other concerns. But, given that things are finally startin' to calm down, I thought you might want to discuss some of the facets you've been ignoring."

You nod your head, realizing that, of course you haven't seen much of your own castle. You visit the training grounds, the throne room, your solar and...well, you sleep and shit like other men, but, given the size of your castle, there has to be more to it.

"Certainly, For. Let's go right after breakfast."

>>41981342
Perhaps our wife would like to join us? ... unless of course she's too frail a flower by this week of pregnancy

>>41981342

>QUEST DETAILS.
>This is me wanting to give you guys some free stuff to have "always had" in your castle.

You have A SOLAR.

You are allowed three picks from the following List:
>Crypts: A place for you and your descendants to be one day buried and remembered. This connects your future to the history of your home.
>Gardens: A series of open-air paths amid trees, shrubberies, and flower beds. A place of calm and beauty, amid the iron of Morderengrad.
>Glasshouses. A series of glass buildings that contain small gardens, who, protected by the glass, can grow through winter.
>Observatory. A room from which the stars can be charted and watched, allowing you to keep abreast of the change of seasons, the fortuitous conjunctions of stars, and to simply watch the night sky.
>Trophy Room. A room that, like the crypts, it dedicated to memory. Here you collect things that interest you, or trophies of deeds you have performed, so that others may admire them.

CUSTOM OPTIONS
>Kennels. This choice signifies that the Kennels you keep are impressive and well-attended. Your dogs are happier, they hunt better, and can be bred easier.
>Training Yard. This space signifies an extensive armory and space for the training of your squire, household guard, and even units either from you personally or your master of arms.
>Dragonfire Forge. The space in which your smith works is no standard smith's shop. It holds texts hundreds of years old, and the forge itself burns hotter than can be believed. Among the benefits this grants is the ability to REforge Valyrian Steel.
>Map Chamber. This room contains a large table, and many old maps. From it, you can more accurately judge the scope of large-scale conflicts, as well as keep a more informed understanding of borders, territories, and geography.

>>41981509
Sorry, to be clear: It's three picks total from the normal and the custom options. I meant to greentext "custom options"

>>41981452
>Alyssa Bordain
>A frail flower

>>41981509
Oh, also, due to a request from your Maester, you are currently building a Lordly Library.

>>41981509

>Kennels
>Observatory
>Dragonfire Forge

>>41981509
>>Dragonfire Forge.
Obviously we need this
>Glasshouses
>Kennels

>>41981509
>Training Yard
>Dragonfire Forge
>Map Chamber

>>41981509
>Gardens
>Dragonfire Forge
>Training Yard

We already talked to Lord Arryn in our garden during our wedding.
And gardens are nice.

Say, since our brother died and the rule of inheritance being what it is...our father lands would return to us when he dies right? Even if he doesn't have that much land with him being a landed knight, it would give us a foot(toe more like)hold into the Westerlands right?

>>41981509
>Glasshouses
>Dragonfire Forge
>Observatory

Don't we already have a Training Yard?

>>41981509
For those not in the know, the standard options are from Out of Strife, Prosperity. Their stats can be found here: https://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1423/13/1423135781079.pdf

Now, no self-respecting arms dealer can go without a Dragonfire Forge, It just fits us too well.As for the others, I'm going to go ahead and vote for the training yard and the greenhouse, with the herb house choice.

>>41981509
>Crypts: A place for you and your descendants to be one day buried and remembered. This connects your future to the history of your home.
>Glasshouses. A series of glass buildings that contain small gardens, who, protected by the glass, can grow through winter.
>Trophy Room. A room that, like the crypts, it dedicated to memory. Here you collect things that interest you, or trophies of deeds you have performed, so that others may admire them.

>>Training Yard. This space signifies an extensive armory and space for the training of your squire, household guard, and even units either from you personally or your master of arms.
>>Dragonfire Forge. The space in which your smith works is no standard smith's shop. It holds texts hundreds of years old, and the forge itself burns hotter than can be believed. Among the benefits this grants is the ability to REforge Valyrian Steel.
>>Map Chamber. This room contains a large table, and many old maps. From it, you can more accurately judge the scope of large-scale conflicts, as well as keep a more informed understanding of borders, territories, and geography.
Sup Page, tell me if this what ha meant or if I went potato

>>41981637

He meant three total, homeboy.

>>41981592
>>41981563
>>41981627


Yes and no. Technically, you're not saying what you HAVE, you're picking what you have that is impressive/large enough to MATTER.

So, yes, you have a training yard and a garden. By picking those options, you're saying "They're more than just set-dressing, they provide actual statistical effects on your home.


>>41981637
Three TOTAL, not three from each.

>>41981637
>crypts
>glasshouse
>training yard
So much potato

>>41981509
>Observatory.
>Training Yard
>Dragonfire Forge

>>41981342
>Gardens:
>Training Yard.
>Dragonfire Forge.
deleting old vote >>41981641

>>41981509
We're a functional man, we want our childlren to remember us by our deeds and what we built.
>>No crypt
Same goes for the trophy room. We remember our deeds by their results, not by keepsakes
>>No trophy room
Glasshouses, gardens and observatory. They just don't strike me as something we'd have gone out of our way to build. Remember we built this castle in the midst of our solitary, brooding catatonia ... I can't imagine we'd have put any of these in. Maybe now Alyssa's here we should ask her which of the three she'd prefer but I really don't think we'd have one yet.
>>No gardens, glasshouses or observatory
Dragonfire Forge - We're the fucking Iron Lord, producer of the finest arms and armour in the seven kingdoms.
>>Of course we need this
Training yard and map chamber - We're a warrior first and foremost. It was through war and combat that we were raised to lordship and we pride ourselves on doing it well. It's also a legacy we've continued in peacetime, building up one of the largest single armies in the Vale and finding a way to involve ourselves in combat despite our entire continent being at peace.
Plus, our troops are almost all elite, it makes sense we'd have an excellent training yard.
And now we're conducting mercenary campaigns half a world away ... a room with maps of Essoss might just come in handy.
>>I think training yard and map chamber are incredibly fitting.
Kennels - I want them ... but we haven't hada any real dogs yet and I think the dragonfire forge, map chamber and training yards are more in-character. But I still want them
>>Reluctant vote against kennels

>>41981509
>Training Yard. This space signifies an extensive armory and space for the training of your squire, household guard, and even units either from you personally or your master of arms.
>Dragonfire Forge. The space in which your smith works is no standard smith's shop. It holds texts hundreds of years old, and the forge itself burns hotter than can be believed. Among the benefits this grants is the ability to REforge Valyrian Steel.
>Map Chamber. This room contains a large table, and many old maps. From it, you can more accurately judge the scope of large-scale conflicts, as well as keep a more informed understanding of borders, territories, and geography.

>>41981623
Yes, no, and maybe.

It depends on how EXACTLY Robert made you a Lord, which William didn't have the political savvy to note at the time, and he hasn't asked anyone.

Basically, you might not LEGALLY be your father's son anymore.

If you are, then yes, you will inherit his lands.

If not, then it means that, as far as the law is concerned, both the Ruttiger sons died, and one just happened to die the same day that Lord BORDAIN was "born" as a 17 year old, leaving your sister to inherit.

>>41981509
Dragon forge
Kennels
Training yard

>>41981709
>>41981579
>>41981509
>>41981726

>Training Yard
>Dragonfire Forge
>Map Chamber

>>41981745
we would still have a claim, and I doubt King Baratheon is out to fuck us over

>>41981709
Note: You didn't build shit.

This castle has been here for a thousand years, and was abandoned some several hundred years ago. It was going to be gifted to that one knight, and instead was given to you.

So it's not about what you put in the castle, it's what was here when you arrived.

Not saying you should change your vote, just noting that your arguments have a flawed premise.

>>41981745
I think, even with avarice being a trait of Bordain, that such a thing would be difficult to consider (Its his dad). Plus he's been busy. Very busy. That and it would be a wicked plot hook later if the worst comes to be and sister and/or mother comes to us to help keep lands in the family safe from new claimants.

>>41981781

We don't really resemble a whore in any way, shape, or form, so I think Bobby B's interest in us is minimal at best.

Rolled 5, 9, 7 = 21 (3d9)

>>41981791
In that case, let's leave it to the dice gods!

>>41981726
>>41981709
>>41981579
These guys know what's up.
>>Map chamber so we actually know where Finn is
>>Training yard for training
>>Dragonfire forge because

>>41981800

Trophy Room? That's disgusting, anon.

>Map chamber, it's relevant as fuck
>Training yard, it's also relevant as fuck
>Dragonfire forge, it is, again, relevant as fuck

Unless Alyssa wants flowers, then we build her a glasshouse.

>>41981709

I have to agree with this, but we should talk with Alyssa about Morderengrad needing a less martial and more noble mindset into any future renovations and or expansions.

>>41981781
>>41981797
That wouldn't be a thing the king would be bothered with, its a small land, and that would likely fall under Tywin's purview as his banner house. the only reason this would come before the king is if the land succession caused such a shitstorm he felt a need to personally interfere in the warden of the west's business. While I would normally call this impossible knowing tg... well...

>>41981828
We didn't build this shit: it was part of the castle when we were given it by Bobby B

>>41981831
Indeed, though I don't think these choices will affect marital bliss in any way, as they were things already present in the castle before we got it.

>>41981859
True, but we can still build some beautiful gardens for our lovely lady wife

>>41981791

Can we, at a later point, build the stuff that we don't choose now?

>>41981859
>>41981882

Fine, I can agree to gardens taking the place of anything that isn't the dragonfire forge.

>>41981886
Yup. This is just the stuff that was already there when we got the castle, which is why I voted to leave it to the holy will of the dice gods.

>>41981656
Can we get the statistcal effects for the custom options then?

>Crypts: Costs 2 Defense, 3 Wealth, +2 to Influence gains on House Fortune rolls, no upgrades
>Gardens: 1 Defense, 4 Wealth, +1 to Influence and Wealth loss mitigation, can be upgraded to offer +1 to Wealth House Fortunes gains, and +1 to House Fortunes rolls not during winter, for 2 wealth eac
>Glasshouses: 1 Defense, 3 Wealth: can either add 1 to Population loss Mitigation, +1 to Wealth loss mitigation, or +1B to all healing checks in the castle. For +1 defense and Wealth, another bonus can be bought, and you can do this until you have all 3 bonuses
>Observatory: 1 Defense, 4 Wealth, +1 to House Fortunes rolls, can hire a Scholar for 5 more wealth
>Trophy Room: 5 Wealth, +1 to Influence House Fortunes rolls, can be upgraded with a Scholar, and with another Influence +1, for % Wealth each

And since 2 of the options include it:
>Scholar: 5 Wealth, +1 to House Fortunes, gets cost reduced to 3 wealth by the library we're building, can set up a school for 5 more wealth, adding another +1

Keep in mind that OOSP uses stacking bonuses, so those aren't straight additions to our rolls.

>>41981882
>>41981859
>>41981828
>>41981709
I like the idea of not having much in the way of gardens or glasshouse, but some fucking enormous ones the instant Alyssa mentions how she misses the flowers at home.

>>41981894
Oh, I meant we can build them future tense, Alyssa has only been part of William's Wild Ride for a relatively short while, it's unlikely that the original gardens were expanded when we first moved in.

>>41981915
We don't really need to minmax here, this isn't something we built personally. I think we should choose for flavor reasons.

Hence a solid NO vote to the Dragonfire forge. I want to see it built by our own will

>>41981935
I'd be concerned that if the keep doesn't already contain such a forge, then it would be incredibly difficult for us to acquire one considering all the ancient knowledge required.

>>41981928

It's probably the most in-keeping with character option we can take.

>>41981985

This, being able to re-forge Valyrian steel is even more valuable than owning one of the weapons yourself. It seems like a completely necessary option to me.

Guess that brings my total to:

>Garden / Glasshouse
>Dragonfire Forge
>Map Room

>>41981935
Just making it clear what exactly we're signing up for. Also, it's not impossible that there could be a Dragonfire forge before we got here. Whoever lived here before us probably mined iron as well. They could have had a particularly badass forge.

Also, I forgot to mention that the Scholar also gives a +2 bonus to knowledge tests when he's consulted. Also, the Scholar upgrades cost 5 Wealth, while buying a Scholar outright also costs 5, so doing so is purely a flavor choice.

>>41981509
>Training Yard. This space signifies an extensive armory and space for the training of your squire, household guard, and even units either from you personally or your master of arms.
>Dragonfire Forge. The space in which your smith works is no standard smith's shop. It holds texts hundreds of years old, and the forge itself burns hotter than can be believed. Among the benefits this grants is the ability to REforge Valyrian Steel.
>Map Chamber. This room contains a large table, and many old maps. From it, you can more accurately judge the scope of large-scale conflicts, as well as keep a more informed understanding of borders, territories, and geography.

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>>41981928
I can see that happening.

B: Gardens? Why would we need gardens? It is vanity.

A: Well, it would be somewhere for me to walk when you're not hime.

>Pic related begins construction tomorrow.

>>41981781
You're right that you would be able to make a solid claim. It would just be seen as kind of a dick move. Unless you hate whoever your sister ends up marrying, then it would at least make sense to people.

>>41981886
Oh, yeah. They're all options. The only thing to note is that a LOT of them might kind of crowd the keep, and they'll cost wealth and defense to make (Gardens, for instance, cost 4 wealth and 1 defense)

>>41981915
You already have a scholar, in the form of Maester Arban, though I don't know if there's a rule against stacking them.

Also, in the interest of honesty, as noted by the title and second post, pretty much all of my prep time was consumed in recent events. So I don't have full stats on the options yet, but here's the basics.

Kennels: -2 to Master of the Hunt purchase, +1B to Survival(Hunting)
Dragonfire: +1 Power, reforge ability.
Training Yard: +1 Power, additional benefits based on personage and equipment. Allows you/master of arms to make checks to improve unit training.
Map Chamber: +1 Lands, +1D Warfare when commanding from Morderengrad.

Alright, If you want to/ have change(d) your votes, please delete previous votes.

I'm going to go pee, get a soda, and tally them up for the tour.

>>41981985
Same goes for the ancient and exotic maps of a map chamber

Thinking about flavour, Morderengrad's been described as some big dark keep on a mountain, whatever lord built it in ages past doesn't strike me as the sort to go for gardens and glasshouses. Any of forge, training yard, map chamber, maybe trophy room or kennels seems better.

>>41982047
>Oh, yeah. They're all options.

Alright.

I'm glad we get a chance to build glasshouses at a later point. (Making food during winter would be fucking great)

>>41982047

Map room is + Lands and Warfare? Damn, man. I'm thinking we need this.

>>41982058

This is a solid point as well. Although if we do decide to go away from choosing gardens here, I vote that we start construction on some anyway. Eventually we'll get enough marital bliss points to mind-meld with Alyssa and begin our spousal reign of terror.

>>41981709 here
Keeping the same vote.
Maps
Forge
Training

>>41982103
Honestly, you only get to improve two stats with each house fortune roll. Basically each house needs to choose two "Key stats" and stack all the bonuses to those two so that you can actually USE the bonuses. For Bordain it would be Power and Wealth. Any other stats we need we can buy with Wealth.

>>41982098

If we go for crypts, won't their construction predate us by quite some time, and thus be filled with not-Bordains? Fuck that, we don't need spoopy ghosts trying to kick us out of our castle.

>>41982164
But spooky scary skeletons would be AWESOME

>>41982047
Scholar is supposed to be a different thing from Maester, I think. Maester costs 10 wealth, and gives +3 to House Fortunes, Scholar costs 5 Wealth, and gives +1 to House Fortunes and the knowledge bonus.

Since it seems flavor is a bust: let's just take the mechanically best option

>Observatory
>Training Yard
>Dragonfire Forge

>>41981509
>>41982003
I'm good with these options,
>Glasshouse
>Dragonfire forge(even if it's a bit sueish)
>Map room

>>41982135
This may be a problem, as there's like two direct bonuses to Power generation in OOSP. The vast majority of bonuses are for Wealth. It might actually be easier to get Population bonuses, and use a House Action to convert it to Power.

>select all images with commercial trucks
wtf is this shit

>>41982003
>>41982280
Dammit guys. If we already have gardens or glasshouses then we can't build them for Alyssa .. and you know Morderengrad wasn't built buy someone who likes flowers.

>>41982335
Training yard and dragonfire forge custom options add to power. As does our Iron mine and I think something else we've got.

>>41982047
>>41981509

>Dragonfire: +1 Power, reforge ability.
>Training Yard: +1 Power, additional benefits based on personage and equipment. Allows you/master of arms to make checks to improve unit training.
>Map Chamber: +1 Lands, +1D Warfare when commanding from Morderengrad.


These feel the most in character for us and the castle.

>>41981509
>You are allowed three picks from the following List
Aw man, I thought we were going to get cool weapons like the "Flame Pick" or the "Wizard's Pick" or the "Orichalcum Pick"

>>41982352
I'm firmly of the opinion that gardens, glass houses and observatories should only become part of Morderengrad after we build the luxurious Alyssa Wing.

>>41982234
You are correct. I somehow got confused on that one, but when I re-checked the sidebar, it got cleared up.

>>41982047
Tallied the votes. Forge, Yard, and Maps won by a landslide.

Putting on my narrator voice:

Korbis leads you and Alyssa through the halls.

"My lord, if I may speak bluntly, whoever built this castle was a hard son. The walls, as you know, are thick and sturdy, and bear little decoration."

You nod, gesturing to your wife "So Alyssa has reminded me. We may wish to find some tapestries, to add warmth to the halls."

Korbis tilts his head in acknowledgment.
"And other than your solar, my lord, we can find no indication that the original owner cared for anything beyond war. Unless this room had a less aggressive purpose."

He has lead you to a room some twenty feet deep, not too far from the throne room, in fact. Its walls bear shelves filled with parchments and scrolls.
"A scriptorium?" You venture.
"A map room, my lord." Korbis explains, taking scrolls from the shelves and spreading them on a great central table.

"Many of the maps are old, but from what we can tell, they are accurate from a geography stand-point. We'll ge newer ones for the political situations. But look at these, William."

He shows you a series of carven markers, clearly made to show the forces of various leaders. There are the dragons of Targaryens, the Lions and Stags and Wolves, and some you don't immediately recognize. Two are the main focus for For, however.

He hands you a stag, and gestures you turn it over. On the bottom, it's marked "Dur." in a sharp hand.
"Dur? Could our carver not spell?" You jest.
"Durrandon, William," your wife corrects. "The name of the house that became Baratheon. That means these markers come from BEFORE the Conquest. That figure is almost 300 years old."

The next one was a shield with two chains across it. You recognize this one. "Hoare. This is the mark of House Hoare."

(cont)

>>41982662
Jesus. This castle is old as fuck.

>again with the commercial trucks

>>41982735

Likely it was old before the conquest.

>>41982035
William is the prettiest hime.

>>41982408

>implying the Alyssa Wing would not be ringed in glasshouses, and containing an inner garden with a glass ceiling whereupon each and every flower the Lady Alyssa has ever noted with any semblance of approval is planted, and perpetually in full bloom
>implying we won't import fifty shadowbinders from Asshai to sacrifice fifty virgins every month in order to keep winter from every approaching Morderengrad, because our waifu should be warm
>implying we won't travel the world ourselves on an epic tapestry-collecting adventure, and retrieve several tapestries from every major city in the Known World, and bring them to her
>implying we won't sail directly to Sothyros, slay a wyvern, and then make Alyssa a splendid cloak from its scales

Step your game up, pleb. Do you even into yandere Westerosi Lord?

>>41982662

In modern time, House Hoare was mainly remembered for their last scion, Harren the Black, who finished his own great castle, Harrenhal, the same day the Targaryens landed in Westeros. He died burning his halls under dragonfire a few weeks later.

This room bore the armies of wars ten generations won and lost. You shuddered under the weight of it.

As you leave the dusty scrolls of the map chamber, you descend further and further into the castle, until you reach Ilwin's forge.

"My lord, Ilwin discovered recently that one of his walls was, well, not fully a wall. It appears someone built the wall over an alcove. He didn't discover it until testing your dreadnought armor. The hammer it was struck with rebounded out of the warrior's grasp, piercing the alcove wall. We cleared it out, and we found the alcove was in fact a dividing wall to a grander forge. When we started the forge, william, the flames were...white. They burn white and grey. And hot as a..." He realizes your wife is standing beside you. "Summer's day." He lamely finishes. "Further, the books and scrolls kept here have some interesting information. It seems this fire is...well, if what Ilwin says is true, this forge could re-cast Valyrian steel."

...That rocks you. There are maybe a dozen smiths in all the WORLD that could do such a thing. To have a forge built for that purpose here is... tempting, in many ways.

Finally, you ascend and exit to behind the castle. You note for the first time that there is a cave-like ampitheater here. Korbis again explains.

"And this, as far as we can tell, was a training yard. Ingenious, in some ways. He could train his armies here, inside the castle walls. We found traces of ancient weapon racks, and in some of the older store rooms, we've found training equipment. There's a platform here," he gestures "That we're replacing. From it, one man could lead a hundred in drills. Who cares you're besieged if you can train your reinforcements behind the walls?"

In all seriousness, Glasshouses would actually be really useful for providing food during winter/possibly sieges.

>>41982851
We should have six wings of the castle, one with a forest, one with a volcanic mine, one with a half-frozen lake, one with spooky magics and skeletons, and one with sand and lasers.

>>41982922
But you know what they say about those who live in Glasshouses~

>>41982948
That they don't fuck with the Iron Lord if they want their silly tongues nailed to a wall?

>>41982948

If anyone threw a stone in the general direction of the keep in which rests Lord Bordain's wife and unborn child, a genuine and terrifying hell would be set loose upon the world.

>>41982916
You and Alyssa return to your rooms after the tour, your head at least spinning with implications.

Robert didn't just make you a Lord. He gave you a stronghold as dangerous to siege as the Eyrie.

You wonder if he will regret that plan.

ROLL A SHIT TON OF DICE.

Specifically, I want to see you roll 10d6.

(This is a test of how moving fully to the OOSP system would work. You roll 8d6, keep 5, and then add 2d6 from Holdings)

Rolled 6, 4, 6, 6, 6, 6, 1, 2, 6, 4 = 47 (10d6)

>>41983032
Booyah.

Rolled 5, 1, 3, 6, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 6 = 40 (10d6)

>>41983032

Rolled 1, 2, 6, 6, 1, 5, 4, 4, 1, 5 = 35 (10d6)

>>41983032
10 dices

Rolled 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 1, 5, 6, 6 = 38 (10d6)

>>41983032
Rolling

>>41983059
Praise the Seven!!

>>41983059

No one else roll. Look at all those sixes.

>>41983059
Fucking hell, no one else roll

Rolled 6, 4, 5, 4, 4, 1, 5, 1, 4, 2 = 36 (10d6)

>>41983020
>>41983032
Due to the fact that our castle is on a Mountain, attackers can't bring siege weapons to bear against us, meaning any attempt to storm us would be drowned in its own blood. The only weaknesses in our defense are long sieges and treachery from within.

>>41983059
>>41983032

So, we keep five 6s.

Then we have one more leftover from that for holdings.

And then a four.

So, Page, where's our dragon egg?

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>>41983020
Speaking of Hell, have people seen the afterlife Bordain and Harrock have been damned to in the PC Afterlives thread?

>>41983129
I thought our castle was IN the mountain?

>>41983141
Well that's depressing, good thing we follow the 7

>>41983135
Screw dragon eggs, I want the triforce of power.

>>41983141

Holy shit, that's pretty rough.

Regardless, I just see Bordain marching his way up to the largest looking hell-whip-beast-thing, demanding to know where his wife is, and then setting off in that direction without further comment.

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>>41983141
Harrock has it WAY worse than us.

>>41983176

I don't know, but the point still stands.

>>41983176
Soon maybe?

>>41983059
Jesus fuck my eyes Christ.

Although, hilariously, due to the shifting nature of the house fortunes table, all three >>41983059
>>41983081
>>41983082

lead to the same thing: Growth. A single +1 to a single stat.

But fuck that noise.

Y'all get a Boon. 1d6 to one stat, or 1d3 to two.

REMEMBER, We vote on WHICH OPTION, THEN, once decided, I roll, so we don't have a shit-ton of differing die rolls, and people switching opinions due to someone rolling well.

>>41983212
>>41983220
Well, I know we at least discussed it being in the mountain. But the point does still stand.

>>41983260
Current stats?

>>41983260
Can we get our stats?

>>41983260
Power and Wealth

>>41983260
1d3 Power and Wealth

>>41983287
>>41983280

This please.

>>41983260
Power and Wealth sound like pretty good choices considering our future endeavors.

>>41983260
1d6 in Martial/Fightan, please!

>>41983260
Power and wealth always and forever
>>Those are where we have the most bonuses from our holdings, even if we want lands or something it's more efficient to get it via wealth.

>>41983260
Power and Wealth, but still would like some stats.

>>41983287
>>41983280
YOU WOULD WANT THOSE, WOULDN'T YOU?

I keep forgetting I stopped posting them in the second post. They'll get back in once I work out the pastebin stuff to free things up.

DEFENSE: 4
INFLUENCE: 22
LANDS: 8
LAW: 41
POPULATION: 37
POWER: 0
WEALTH: 48

>>41983343
Even if we only want to improve power (say, for replacing the half our army we just sent to Essos), it's still better to do it by putting half in wealth thanks to the many MANY bonuses we have.

>>41983391
Seeing those...

Can we buy some land, make our town a large town?

>>41983391
What boon could we get?
1d3 to Power and Wealth.

>>41983403
But we could totally beat Jaime Lannister if we improve our Martial Prowess.

>>41983391

1d6 to lands

We need more lands.

>>41983432
Yeah but this is a house fortune roll, nothing to do with us personally.

>>41983391

1d3 Power

1d3 Influence.

>>41983462
WE ARE THE HOUSE!

>>41983391
1d3 to lands and wealth

>>41983391
Lands and Wealth.

We'll eventually need to buy some Influence so we can invest in the heir that is about to be born.

>>41983391
>>1d3 power
>>1d3 wealth

>>41983412
As a note, as was revealed last thread, I had a typo in my notes: Your town has ALWAYS been a small town, because you spent wealth in the chargen thread for it. Despite that, you all decided to expand it anyway last thread, so it's currently becoming a Large Town.

>>41983548
How do you think you GOT the heir that's about to be born?

>>41983558
Oh cool, I wasn't sure that had gone through or not. I assume we've paid for it and all that jazz.

Fuck, we need to go through the list from last thread and BUY some shit.

>>41983572
Hey, if our heir gets grayscale, do we get to buff him in another area?

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>>41983600

>a greyscale baby coming out of our dear Alyssa

>>41983600
Fuck that shit, our baby can only be perfect

>>41983600
Nigga, you think I got time rolling for fucking diseases in this bitch?

Don't drop his ass in the ocean. Boom. No greyscale.

But yes, should something happen to your child, you can of course train him in other ways. As long as that thing isn't Oberyn Martell's sense of Justice.

>>41983632
Or be super smart with a bad skin condition...

>>41983642
You're black?

>>41983642
I think if Oberyn Martell tries to touch our child then our retribution will be Dorne.

>>41983632
our baby will pop out of Alyssa with an Iron ingot and a warhammer in his hands

>>41983642
>Use historical infant mortality rates for lordlings to make a percentile chart.

>>41983590
I recommend the Minstrel's Seat for shitloads of influence.

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>>41983663

>>41983642
>Don't drop his ass in the ocean. Boom. No greyscale.
The Ironborn do it to THEIR babies and they turn out great!

>>41983661
>You're black?

You're stupid?

>>41983676
Yeah, though I'd personally like some of the sewers/sanitation whatever they were. It feels in character.

>>41983663
>>I think if Oberyn Martell tries to touch our child then our retribution will be Dorne.
>>Dorne can raise 50,000 soldiers
We must invest in power

>>41983642
Page, are we allowed to buy improvements at the same time as buying the thing itself?

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>>41983661
You think I care about societal permissions for the use of specific, controversial terms on an Taiwanese Mural Board?

>>41983663
In his defense, you DID touch his first.

Though, since he tried to kill your knight, he should really only try for ONE of your kids, to keep things fair.

Alright, power and Wealth took that vote, so you gain...

5 power, and 10 Wealth.

DO YOUR OWN MATH

Power 5,

Wealth 58.


NOW TAKE TWO HOUSE ACTIONS.

MIGHT I RECOMMEND: GIVING YOUR MERCENARIES CASTLE-FORGED STEEL
AND

Really whatever you want. You've been pretty solid on addressing your concerns as they come up.

>>41983748
Power, that Military Academy, bulk up our mercenary army. We can take em with 30,000.

>>41983797
Yeah, give all the Mercs Castle forged steel.

Maybe start building that Military Academy to go with our training field?

>>41983797
Let's help the Dog People!

>>41983797
Didn't we already give thm castle-forged steel? I thought it was upgrading them that we had to wait month for.

>>41983752
EXPLAIN YOUR QUESTION.

But it's almost certainly a yes. The improvements will raise the cost and time to find the chosen element, but it just makes sense. Because otherwise, you like, Hire people, and then magically train them to be super good at something through the power of MONEY.

Captcha keeps making me pick kayaks and surfboards. I think it misses the ocean.

>>41983797

Give mercenaries castle-forged steel.

Either have Alyssa birth twins or help out the Painted Dogs with anything.

>>41983797
>>41983831
GOD YES. Thank you for reminding me you glorious son of a bitch
>>Upgrade army
>>Build military academy

>>41983847
Other way around.

>captcha now distinguishes between INDOOR and OUTDOOR pools.
Jesus.

>>41983729
Fluffwise, we can tie it in to that bard we hired prior to going to Jon Arryn's party thing.

Also, speaking of Oberyn Martell:
>Secret Police: 3 Power, 10 Wealth
This is badass upgrade. All assassins, spies, saboteurs, or other enemy agents have the difficulty of cunning tests increased by 6, we get Connections all throughout our domains, and any penalties associated with our population are reduced by one. We're trying to take on Oberyn, Tywin, Robert, and possibly Jon Arryn. It's an incredibly efficient and powerful holding.

>>41983861
For example, can we drop 15 Wealth on say, a Timber holding with a Mill and shipyards, and have the whole thing ready to go, or do we have to wait for the base timber holding?

>>41983874
You..what?

Your wife has 3 more months of pregnancy.

You really don't want to MAKE her birth babies now. (Also, it's totally already twins.)

>>41983910
His name is Jonah Gunn.

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>>41983964
>(Also, it's totally already twins.)

OH MY GOD YES.

Keep an eye out for twincest we ain't okay with that shit.

>>41983676
>>41983729
>>41983831
>>41983882
Useful holdings
Gambling dens + bloodsports
>>+1 power, +1 wealth resource gain bonus
>>Cost of raising peasant levies reduced by 2
Street gangs
>>Cost of raising peasant levies reduced by 2.
Shame it doesn't suit us though
Martial Festivals
>>When raising peasant levies they gain -3 discipline

Martial Academy
>>When taking the Manage Resources House Action, the House may convert Wealth to Power at a 1:1. Additionally, units that lose abilities due to damage suffered in Warfare reduce the amount lost by 1
>>If upgraded, can give all our forces an extra ability. Say garrisons get warfare to use siege weapons or cavalry get marksmanship to use bows.
>>If other upgrade, all forces gain +1 to a certain ability

>>41983910
I like the Minstrels seat, both the upgrades and that secret police.

Money, Men, Influence and a secure place to do whatever the hell we want?

They won't stand a chance.

>>41983957
That's what I assumed.
Normally, Yes, you can do that. This case is slightly non-normal, since the Shipyards specify you MUST have the other options, so I'm going to rule you have to complete the Timber and Mill options, and THEN make the shipyard.

Those are TARTS, Captcha, not pies.

I see two votes for "help Painted Dogs", two for Military academy, and one on Secret Police.

Any more votes?

>>41984057
Fuck it, secret police gets my vote.

>>41984044
>Gambling dens + bloodsports

Alyssa might actually kill us. Not leave us, just kill us and then take Morderengrad for her own.

>Street gangs

Not much better here.

>Martial Festivals

Eh, might suit us but it feels one hell of a lot less impactful than...

>Martial Academy

Those bonuses are massive. We could make Westerosi Cataphracts happen.

>>41984057
>castle steel
>military academy
First time I've made it to a thread on time. Read all the archives, and I finally get to post.

>>41984057

I have to vote for Martial Academy. I know people are paranoid about the Martells, but Tywin has been and will remain their priority. They won't be committing a massive amount of resources to the Vale when it's so far away from the locus of their plan.

>>41983797
>>Upgrade army
>>Build military academy

>>41983797
When are our mercs leaving? If they're not leaving before our house actions refresh, then we can put it off.

>Start building minstrel's seat
If we'd had one for this roll, we'd have gotten 5 influence in addition to everything else. We'll never have to invest in Influence again.If the mercs are leaving now, put this off and arm them instead.

>set up secret police
As I said before, with all the enemies we have (I just remembered that Littlefinger might be involved with hiring people to attack us) we need to secure our lands. Our army prevents most direct action, so now we must defend ourselves from indirect action.

>>41983964
>You really don't want to MAKE her birth babies now.

I meant make the single birth into twins instead.

And I don't get the "His name is Jonah Gunn." reference.

Not at the moment, at least.

>>41984057
fresh vote here and military academy is it. Also can we pencil in secret police for next month? Its awesome too.

>>41984120
Aren't Cataphracts just different types of heavy cavalry? Knights and Cataphracts both have full body armor, barding for the horses, and lances. What do the Cataphracts offer that knights don't?

>>41984057
Also, with the Military Academy, I'd personally like to buy both upgrades immediately. We will be the best place in Westeros to learn war.

>>41984178
They also have heavy bows.

Also, instead of gambling dens, we could grab Food agriculture
>5 Wealth, +1 to HF, Pop, and power
Only downside is that it doesn't work during winter.

>>41984178

Cataphracts were essentially heavy ranged cavalry. They were trained to fire a bow accurately while mounted. Due to their heavy armor, they could approach an enemy force without taking much in the way of damage, and surround them.

This is the signature of the cataphracts. Like a swarm of sharks, they would surround an enemy unit in a flowing circle, and using shortbows, would proceed to murder the fuck out of everybody unfortunate enough to be inside their circle. Then they would move on.

>>41984178
Nothing really, they were the indirect Parthian precursors to the modern knight, and wrecked some Roman legionaries hard, although that was mostly from atrocious leadership. Triumverate? There's only two now.

>>41983831
>>41983882
>>41983874
>>41984124
>>41984149
At least five votes for caste-steel and military academy

>>41984054
This. Once our seat of power is secure, we can get to work on our enemies.

>>41984166
That's literally his name. It's not a reference.

Though I think there's a song titled "my name is jonas", so that may be your confusion.

>>41984155
Your mercs are leaving when you decide they leave. I just assumed you didn't want them to leave without their good galoshes.

It looks like the vote is for military academy, with some heavy votes for secret police and minstrel seats coming up soon.

ALRIGHT. You guys wanna pour in all the upgrades immediately, or piecemeal?

>MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE: Power 5, Wealth 25, time to completion 32+5d6 months (before reductions)
>Just the tip: Power 5, Wealth 10, 20+3d6 months to completion

>>41984281
>>MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE: Power 5, Wealth 25, time to completion 32+5d6 months (before reductions)

DO ITTTTTT

>>41984281
>>MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE: Power 5, Wealth 25, time to completion 32+5d6 months (before reductions)

>>41984281
>MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE: Power 5, Wealth 25, time to completion 32+5d6 months (before reductions)

Go ask Alyssa, Page. Billy Bordain does not play "Just the tip", he plays "HIDE THE GREATSWORD"

>>41984038
Hey, we'll love our children no matter what, just not in that way

>>41984281
>>MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE: Power 5, Wealth 25, time to completion 32+5d6 months (before reductions)

>>41984281
>MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE: Power 5, Wealth 25, time to completion 32+5d6 months (before reductions)

>>41984281
>MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE: Power 5, Wealth 25, time to completion 32+5d6 months (before reductions)

I believe my confusion came from me thinking you made a reference to both Fight Club and something I wasn't aware of.

>>41984044
You're also forgetting Master of Arms

>Unit Bonuses: Each unit in the House gains 1 Wealth of
free upgrades.
>New Rules: When rolling for injuries after a battle add
+1 to the roll.

>Field Master*: +5 Wealth; 1d6 months. The Master of
Arms is skilled at commanding in the field as well. New
Rule: The Master of Arms is able to act as a sub-commander
with a Warfare ability of 4. Unit Bonus: Reduce
the cost of gaining one type of unit by 1 (this unit should
reflect the Master of Arms’ “specialty”).

>>41984281
Are we castle-forging our weapons in addition to everything else then? 'cause we've had less votes for secret police than for castle-forging our mercs

Oh
>>Vote for just the tip.

>>41984281
>Just the tip: Power 5, Wealth 10, 20+3d6 months to completion
It's a lot quicker to not go balls deep.

>>41984281
>MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE
Time to get some use out of that new (old) training yard!

>>41984366

Do we already have this?

>>41984395
No. Also, he forgot the upgrade that lets all our fortifications hold out under siege for 6 months.

>>41984192
Not all Cataphracts did. And some Byzantine Cataphracts would just have a few bowmen per lance, firing as they charged to help break up the front rank of the enemy.

>>41984178
Cataphracts were extremely heavily armored cavalry before heavily armored cavalry was a thing.

>>41984306
>>41984310
>>41984314
>>41984341
>>41984344

As I assumed.
NEW POWER: 0, YOU LOSER.
NEW WEALTH: 23

You have equipped 5 units with Castleforged steel, and begun construction of your military academy.

The Military academy will be completed in 47 months.

Would you like to invest 5 Wealth in an ENGINEER, completing the project in 38 months instead?

>>41984351
I did think of that later.

>>41984395
You do not.

>>41984443
He may have not thought we would want it.

>>41984446
Yes.

Don't we have a masons guild or something too or is that already included?

>>41984446
Yes

>>41984446
Sure, fuck it, why not? We got the dosh to spend.

>>41984446
>Would you like to invest 5 Wealth in an ENGINEER, completing the project in 38 months instead?

Can we invest 10 wealth into two engineers, completing the project in 29 months instead?

>>41984446

WHY NOT?

>>41984446
Question, if we roll all 7s on the House Fortunes roll, do we get summon the eternal dragon and make a wish?

>>41984478

No, we summon your mom and make a wish. Unfortunately, all she does is suck my dick.

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>>41984446
We're already in maximum, keep going

>>41984446
Fuck yes.
>20% faster build times
>+1 defense on all fortifications
>get shit like scales and telescopes 20% off

>>41984476
This isn't engineer the unit, this is engineer the personage. Normally, they cost 15 Wealth.

>>41984506

Sadly she has to use a straw to reach it.

>>41984537

Sadly it's because I have urethra penetration fetish. And if you don't, you're a pleb.

>>41984525
>This isn't engineer the unit, this is engineer the personage. Normally, they cost 15 Wealth.

How much wealth do we have to spare right now? Honestly, we should just get this shit moving at the fastest speed possible, considering the only conclusion we were able to all unanimously agree on was "all of this shit needs to happen right now".

>>41984470
Yes, but no.

Here's what happened: you guys bought an architect and a mason's guild to do that when Princely's pastebin was our only resource. with the OOSP rules those still exist, but the mason's guild no longer modifies build times. BUT, princely also priced both of them higher than OOSP, so I used your excess wealth, plus these 5, and you got all three.

Architects do reduce by 10%. Originally, the constructions would have taken 52 months (48 with Architect) Now, I applied the 20% for the engineer first, taking it from 52 to 42, and then the architect's 10% took it to 38.

>>41984476
No, but they will reduce all subsequent build times as well.


ENGINEER PURCHASED.

New Wealth: 18

How do you wish to spend the rest of the month?
>Assisting and collaborating with Painted Dogs
>Overseeing Construction projects
>Training Squire
>spending time with your wife
>Training Self
>exploring lands for opportunities
>Drinking with Finn before he leaves

SELECT 3

>>41984638
>overseeing construction projects
>spend time with wife
>drink with finn

>>41984638
>Training Squire
>Overseeing Construction projects
>Drinking with Finn before he leaves

>>41984638

>Drinking with Finn before he leaves
>Spend time with wife
>Spend time with squire (training, him and us)

>>41984638
>>Assisting and collaborating with Painted Dogs
>>Training Squire
>>spending time with your wife
>>Drinking with Finn before he leaves

>>41984638
>>Assisting and collaborating with Painted Dogs
>>Overseeing Construction projects
>>Drinking with Finn before he leaves

>>41984638
>>Assisting and collaborating with Painted Dogs
>Training Squire
>spending time with your wife

>>41984638
>>Assisting and collaborating with Painted Dogs
That can count as training our Squire as well

>>41984677
Oops, sorry, take away the wife.

>>41984638
>Assisting and collaborating with Painted Dogs
>Training Squire
>spending time with your wife

>>41984638
>Overseeing Construction projects
>Training Squire
>spending time with your wife (find her Song)

>>41984638
>Assisting and collaborating with Painted Dogs
>spending time with your wife
>Drinking with Finn before he leaves

>>41984638
>Drinking with Finn before he leaves
>Training Squire
>Assisting and collaborating with Painted Dogs

>>41984713
>spending time with your wife (find her Song)

Hint: her song is having our babies

>>41984638
>Training Squire
>Drinking with Finn before he leaves
>Overseeing Construction

>>41984638
>>Time wit wife
>>Drinkin with Finn
>>Training ourselves and squire with the Painted Dogs
...and then timeskip to the next month pls

>>41984764
>Training ourselves and squire with the Painted Dogs

Actually this would be an excellent write-in, I'm in favor. We can knock out three birds with one stone. Bonus: don our dreadnought armor and challenge the Painted Dogs to find a way through it.

I want to go for a morning jog with Stefon in our Dreadnought Armor

>>41984638
>>41984782
Seconding!

>>41984764

Seconded.

ESPECIALLY the last two bits.

>>41984804
>>41984799
>>41984782
>>41984764

Literally all of this. Especially the timeskip. I know I'm a greedy whore, but I want a birth / naming sequence this thread. We've been waiting a long time for this moment, Page.

I've been thinking, if we take part in the Greyjoy Rebellion, should we take Theon as a ward instead of Ned?
Surely William wouldn't do a worse job in raising the little shit and might instill some iron into that joke of an Ironfaggot.

>>41984764
>>41984782
>>41984804
Honestly I love all the roleplaying we've been doing but I miss house fortune rolls and dumping points into incredible holdings of wealth and power

>>41984860
That plan reeks of failure

>>41984860
if we get theon hes is definitly not going to turn out like he originally did,

>>41984638
>Training Squire
>Assisting and collaborating with Painted Dogs
>Overseeing Construction projects

>>41984860
We're already going to have a squire and our own twins. We might be busy. We're also considerably small for someone so big name.

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>>41984782
>William "training" with the Dreadnought armor

>>41984869
nice pun

>>41984893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqdaijFIDvU

>>41984782
This, plus
>Drinking with Finn
>Assisting the Painted Dogs

>>41984860
>>If we take part in the Greyjoy rebellion.
>>IF
Maaaan, why do you think we're building up one of the strongest armies in Westeros, I'm dreaming of the day e get to show off what happens someone gives us the excuse to use it

>>41984828
Trust me, I am as anxious as anyone to get there.

Alright, Wife, Squire, and Finn won that month.

ROLLING FOR YOU BACKSTAGE

Squire: Good training. He grows in skills of personal combat.
Finn: You are not a man of many words, but you share some laughs before he heads out.
Wife: The walks in your halls, and tours of the towns help her feel connected to the people here.

>Learn Wife's Song.
That is an important sequence that cannot be done in the background.


NEXT MONTH, 10d6, MOTHERFUCKERS

Rolled 1, 3, 2, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1, 6, 3 = 31 (10d6)

>>41985012
DICE GOD I LOVE DICE

I'M SO ALONE

Rolled 2, 4, 5, 5, 6, 3, 2, 5, 3, 6 = 41 (10d6)

>>41985012
10

Rolled 3, 1, 5, 5, 1, 1, 1, 6, 4, 5 = 32 (10d6)

>>41985012

Seven if you fail me I will hunt you the fuck down.

Rolled 5, 2, 6, 5, 1, 1, 5, 3, 3, 2 = 33 (10d6)

>>41985012

Rolled 1, 1, 3, 6, 4, 1, 5, 6, 6, 2 = 35 (10d6)

>>41985012
FUCK FLUFF IT'S DICE TIME BITCH

Rolled 4, 4, 5, 5, 3, 1, 3, 3, 6, 6 = 40 (10d6)

>>41985012
Rolling

Rolled 3, 5, 6, 2, 4, 3, 1, 1, 2, 3 = 30 (10d6)

>>41985012

>>41984941
After our talk with Bronze Yohn I wouldn't be surprised when Jon Arryn raise his Banner for Bobby B against Balon, he demands that we stay behind to police the Vale while the other lord goes on their boat trips.

Rolled 4, 2, 2, 2, 3, 5, 1, 5, 1, 2 = 27 (10d6)

>>41985012
>Learn Wife's Song.

Oh holy shit we're going to Painted Dog initiate our waifu?

Fuck, Page, let her give birth first you fucking savage.

Rolls are counted I think but still rolling for great justice.

>>41985029
>2, 4, 5, 5, 6, 3, 2, 5,
>total of 28

A BOON.

1d6 to two stats, or 1d3 to two.

Agree on the stats, and I'll roll. then We'll hit up the house actions for the month.

>>41985114
Hmm, lets do POWER AND WEALTH again.

>>41985114

We should REALLY think about lands m80s.

>Lands 1d6

>>41985114

1d6 to Power

>>41985114
>1d6 to two stats?

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>>41985114
>1d6 to two stats, or 1d3 to two.

>>41985114
I'd say split between Power and Lands

Hey Page what domains lack Estate Holdings?

Power and Wealth. Anyone who doesn't say two stats needs to be punched in the dick until the understand how resource bonuses work.

>>41985114
Power and Wealth again. We need power for Secret Police.

>>41985114
Wealth and power
>>Power for secret police
>>Wealth for master of arms, secret police +/- minstrel's seat

>>41985114
Power and Wealth! Those are our house words, right?

>>41985134
Are there any holdings we can get to better convert Wealth to Lands?

>>41985114
Power and Lands
Also the road to Grey Glen
Sheeeeiiittt Grey Glen, Morderengrad and Ruttiger lands if we're still our father's son.
We might not be Karban, but we sure have huge tracts of land.

>>41985156
>Are there any holdings we can get to better convert Wealth to Lands?

I'm the anon you're replying to and I am also curious about that.

>>41985114
how do we gain a windfall for fortune?

>>41985134
>>41985135
>>41985152
God fucking dammit. With our bonuses we should never fucking choose one.
>>41985150 this guy has the right idea.

Lands doesn't gt us anything nearly as useful as power or wealth does. And even if it did, 1d3 wealth and 1d3 lands would give us more land than just 1d6 lands.
>>Wealth
>>Power

>>41985112
Rogar offered, months ago, to help you and your wife find a song that would improve your marriage. We've never taken him up on it, and Songs are Complex Actions, requiring multiple active checks.

So I was pointing out that it's not something we can achieve at MONTAGE SPEED like we're doing now.

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>>41985143
Typo, sorry. 1d6 to one. Boons always give 1d6 to one, or 1d3 to 2.

>>41985150
At present, only two of your domains HAVE estate holdings (iron Mine, Gold Mine). Though one guy is suggesting you add a timber to that.

At present, you have
HILLS WITH RIVER
HILLS WITH RIVER, WOODS (Building Town with Port)
HILLS WITH RIVER, WOODS
MOUNTAIN WITH STREAM

All lacking estate holdings.

>>41985199

You fuck Cersei Lannister and she pops out a kid that isn't inbred.

>>41985214

Fuck it, let's marital bliss point her to death. Learn the song, cross fingers, maybe new kid/kids pop out with innate boons?

>>41985210
It would also eat up house actions, as a note.

>>41985183
>>41985156
Weirdly, not canonically. Nothing really helps with Lands. I'm still checking to be 100% sure, but as far as I can tell, my custom map chamber is the only thing that boosts lands.

>>41985114
Walth and power 1d3

>>41985150
While we're on the subject of estate holdings, here are some options to consider.

We're rolling +3d6 on wealth, so unless Page expands the stacking bonus chart, we can't buff our wealth roll further. Our HF roll is 2d6, so we should buff that, as well as other stats.

>Food Agriculture
A very efficient collection of bonuses. Unavailable during winter.

>Quarry
10 Wealth for +1 HF and +1 Defense, 15 for +2 to both.

This is the Vale, we should be able to find plenty of stone. Also, a lot of Lifestyle holding require Defense, in addition to fortifications

>Timber
Makes good use of our woods. the mill upgrade directly increases any wealth we gain by 1, allowing us to get even more dosh.

>>41985269

>dosh
>coming from wood, instead of the blood of our enemies

That ain't dosh, it's fucking sissy-homo juice.

>>41985296
You've obviously never met the Forresters.

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>>41985139
>>41985130


Okay, the Power and wealth kids have it.

You roll 13 wealth, and 7 Power.

HOUSE ACTIONS.

>>41985239
Normally, I'd be totally down, but I haven't written out that segment as much as I'd like, and with the great desire to get to the birth by the end of the thread (My schedule is already picking back up due to school, so I need to get to hiatus soon), I think I'm going to have to say "Just wait on it"

>>41985269
>10 Wealth for +1 HF and +1 Defense, 15 for +2 to both

I like this. Let's begin expansion of Morderengrad, first with a strong stone layer around what will eventually become the Alyssa Wings

>>41985316
Secret Police, Learn wife's song.

>>41985316
I swear to christ, don't tell me we have to wait a year for the Rebellion? I might actually cry.


Also, we can buy a unit of Trained Engineers and another 4 Siege Weapons (I'm thinking 2 Large Catapults and 2 Scorpions)

>>41985314
I've seen the lumberjack song, and that's all I need to know about timber. Stone and steel, no other choices.

>>41985316
>hiatus soon

If you're going to go all absentee-lord on us, the least you can do is browbeat Squire into getting timely with his quest. Nigger skipped a week and I intend to flay the bastard.

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>>41985344
That's a bit rude.

>>41985316

Police & Wifesong.

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>>41985336

The Samefag Army, Episode VI: In which they come so late it is conspicuous as fuck

>>41985316
>Secret Police

All these people voting wife song when Page has already said he won't do it yet.

Touching back on the Military Academy and our oodles of varying craftspeople, how would everyone feel about expanding our holdings to include somewhat of a University of Warfare and Sundry, dedicated to housing not just extensive Military knowledge, but the best guilds of engineering, smithing and architecture? Essentially establishing our own mini Citadel.

>>41985396
Fantastic idea but there may be a few drawbacks.

>>41985396
Maybe once we our town is a little bigger, idk if we would be big enough yet for something like that to make sense.

>>41985316
I'd like to begin expanding the castle into the mountain, as our architect has a massive boner for it and it will just add more defense to our castle. Cutting caves into the face of the mountain would also let us mount a shitload of ballista/scorpions on the mountain and fire on any attacking army. A platform on the mountain could also be made to allow for the use of catapults.

>>41985384

I'm the guy you quoted 2nd.

Not the same person as the other two. I was just not paying attention for a bit while idly making characters on a D&D 5e character creator.

>>41985384
Yes, because those two four seconds apart are totally a samefag.

GUYS. We need to reply to Tywin! Like, soon!

Just send him the letter implying we will be Jon Arryn's confidant.

>>41985316
Secret police + master of arms

>>41985435
Yeah, definitely don't leave the Big Lion hanging

>>41985435
>>41985419
Voting for these and expanding our town.

>>41985314
Who in bloody fuck would want to be like the forresters?
Gods shit on that house repeatedly and without mercy with no end in sight in the games.

>>41985316
>Secret police, Master of arms
Reply to Tywin, tell him we'll be Arryn's confidant

>>41985316
Secret Police and Master of Arms, upgrade him as well if we have the resources available.

>>41985339
>wait a year for the Rebellion
The Rebellion happened in year 6 of Robert's reign and we're in year 3, or entering.
Unless you want for the threads next year to be nothing but time skip, we won't reach the Rebellion, don't forget we still have to find who paid the thousand dragons to the former foreman.

>>41985464
But they have nice trees.
That was the point I was making.
That you can get money from trees.

Secret Police and Minstrel's Seat.

>>41985320
We should at some point get together the Defense to upgrade our Castle to a Superior Castle, because fuck the entire concept of invaders.

>>41985482
If your money grows on trees, then it can be taken away very easily.

>>41985388
They may have only gotten to the "You can't do it at this speed" comment. Sometimes, thanks to auto-update delays, I'm about to post something, and like, 6 posts appear.

>>41985344
Hey now, compared to my months of absences, a single week is NOTHING.

Also, do we have a consistency of votes?

I see a lot for secret police, one for more Engineers, one for a quarry, and one for expanding your castle. Which is presently impossible, since you only have 4 Defense, and need at least 10 Defense.

>>41985452
And now a master at arms.

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>>41985454
Okay,

>>41985475
>>41985478
And now two more for master of arms.

So, let's do Secret Police and Master of Arms.

You have 31 wealth, and 7 power.

Purchasing the base of each will cost 20 wealth, and 3 power.

OR, you can fully upgrade the Master of Arms, costing a total of 30 wealth, 3 power for both.

CHOOSE.

>>41985511
>Implying anyone could take us as is.
Grand Castles are pretty irrelevant as far as defending from invaders. It's mostly status and unlimited Settlement Holding slots.

>>41985419
>We hate the shit out of Tywin
>End up making our castle Casterly Rock 2.0

>>41985530
>Purchase base
Never know if we'll need that 11 wealth in the next month.

>>41985530
>Purchasing the base of each will cost 20 wealth, and 3 power.

>>41985530

Purchase the base.

>>41985530
>Purchasing the base

>>41985530
>Fully upgrade the Master of Arms, costing a total of 30 wealth, 3 power for both.
MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE

>>41985530
Only get the siege upgrade for the master of arms, we don't need him to lead men.

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>>41985419
>expanding the castle into the mountain, as our architect has a massive boner for it and it will just add more defense to our castle. Cutting caves into the face of the mountain would also let us mount a shitload of ballista/scorpions on the mountain and fire on any attacking army.
FFFFFFFF I knew our plan reminded me of something.

>>41985530


>Purchasing the base of each will cost 20 wealth, and 3 power.