>>44628226
Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)
Have our kids come help, so they can learn.
Also ask Nila for help.

>>44628270
Supporting.

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>44628335
Forgot the dice

Rolled 8 (1d10)

>>44628226
Here some dice

No, no, no, no, no!

Are you people fucking insane? After that debacle with Nila and what she said about keeping distance you want to go blithely pestering her?!

Are the first replies to Britfag's quests always doomed to be so retarded?

Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)
Have our kids come help, so they can learn.

is good enough.

Good fucking riddance.

Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>44628270
Supporting all but asking Nila for help. Let's have her offer it if she feels the need for it.

>>44628270
>Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)
This is good
>Have our kids come help, so they can learn.
This is also good
>Also ask Nila for help.
This is not so good, dont do that

>>44628521
She said she did not want to be romantically involved not that we could not ask for help

>>44628521

The last conversation we had with her she said that she would answer if we called for help but that she wouldn't be talking to us. We're alright if we pray.

Are you alive brit?

>>44629584
Brit is dead
You're next
Love, moth

Mesut has lifted the restrictions on hunting the aurochs at long last, but with your sight, you're only liable to get mauled to death if you try to keep up with the hunters. Instead, you simply return to the river with your girls and a small offering for Nila. Your offering apparently is accepted, as with everyone's assistance, you finally have enough to see you through until the harvest, with a little extra on the side as well. You breathe a sigh of relief, as you carefully portion out the food and estimate how much you'll eat. Half a season on lean food is bad enough, but two in a row is enough to drive a man to the kind of madness that the tribe has only the most dire punishment for... An involuntary shudder runs down your spine; you know you would never even consider such an act, but in desperation, who knows what a man could do? Regardless, the threat is passed now.

It is now late fall and the harvest has come in. Your share is fairly handed out and comes to just enough to last you until early summer next year, with a little left over. The easy surplus of food is something of a miracle you really don't appreciate until there's not enough, you realise. Sure, planting, harvesting and processing the grain is hard and time-consuming, but with this, one man (if only you had your eyes, it would be you) can provide for many, leaving others idle to spend their time in other pursuits... Pursuits like uniting the clans as you plan to, perhaps.

It is late fall. What do you do?
>Hunt the aurochs 1d10 (Strength -Blind)
>Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)
>Explore the forest
>Explore up the valley
>Explore the hills
>Try and investigate something new (List options)
>Make something special (List options)
>See what the mood of the clan is like, talk to people and get to know them (free)
>Change your active jobs and examine your inventory (free)
>Try to summon a new god
>Make offerings to a god
>Bring more land under cultivation
>Other

>>44629699
>>Try and investigate something new (List options)
>>Make something special (List options)
Is Shaman equipped right now?

>>44629699
I forget, are the goat herders still near?

>>44629699
>Try and investigate something new (List options)
>Make something special (List options)

>>44629699
What age are our children?

>>44629742
>>44629824
Trym
Age: 33
Jobs: Fisher 2 Leader 3 Shaman 1
Inactive: Hunter 3 Craftsman 2
Injuries:

Strength: 2
Speed: 2
Skill: 2
Spirit: 1
Wits: 2
Charisma: 3
Traits:
Experienced Fisher: Gain a +3 to any attempt at fishing and a +1 to resist the effects of negative events while fishing
Blind – Maximum of 1d10 for any task requiring sight. Other penalties may apply.

Equipment: 4 javelins
Flint fishing spear
Flint knife
Flint spear
Hide pants
Hide tunic
Goatskin jacket
Sling
Wolf-claw knife

Belongings:
A few great wolf’s teeth
Great wolf’s head
Fine Charm of Healing
An empowered geode
Small gourd of crystal dust
A few leather hides
A few animal bones

Wife: Beren – Loud, hooked face, long black hair, cunning, white wolf cloak
Children:
Sera – Daughter – Late Fall - 14
Ebba – Daughter – Late summer - 12
Noh – Son – Late Fall - 7

>>44630033
Thanks

>>44630033
Might as well switch Fisher with Craftsman since we don't get any benefit from that job while we are blind. Unless we still receive job exp.

>>44629699
I have a question if we >Bring more land under cultivation now will it be usable when spring comes?

>>44629699
>>Other
Announce our mission to the tribe

>>44630267
He said if we cultivation land before late spring it'll be usable, when it time for harvest.

>>44630331
I think we should do it then so we'll have more food next time.

>>44629699
>Make something special (List options)
>See what the mood of the clan is like, talk to people and get to know them (free)
Switch to Craftsmen, and attempt to make an instrument that helps channel magic

>>44630324
NO, even if mesut accepted that it would still be a bad idea. We should go to the other tribes and attempt to inter-marry with their leaders and convince them that they should follow us

To gain support in our own tribe will be hard, we can approach family heads to gain their support. We will be befriending them gaining their support for favors

>>44630324
Fuck no, that's retarded. I gurantee, fair though Mesut may be, would put himself in the running if he thought we were interested in uniting the clans. Lets wait until we are more powerful in magic, as leverage in this race

>>44629699
I say equip shaman if we haven't yet.
And
>Practice magic
We need to be able to catch fish by our selves at least. Getting our magic sight upgraded. And better healing so we can heal our eyes possiblely later on.

>>44630458
Something to take note of, our magic sight surrounds us entirely, unlike human vision. If we gain enough skill we will be better than before we when we could "see". I would suggest checking if by focusing we can refine our vision in one area.

>>44629699
>>44630370
This

>>44629699
>Make something special (List options)
>See what the mood of the clan is like, talk to people and get to know them (free)
>Practice Magic

Either switch to Craftsmen to make a tool that makes casting magic easier, or just practice magic.

>>44629742
>>44629817
>>44630370
Research
>Spear throwers
>Better fishing spears
>Moving heavier loads
>Pictographic recording (BLOCKED)
>Animal domestication

Craft
>Tools
>Weapons
>Ornaments
>Clothes
>Go fucking nuts

>>44630370
>>44629817
>>44629742
You want to make something out of nothing, now if we had something we could attach to say a staff we make that'd be something. But how about we get a decent amount of magic and then do that. So it's actually worth it.

Like I said before getting a better magic sight, better healing and stronger/ percise telekinesis would help with everything. Long term amd short term. And gives us a better opportunity to make a better tsaff/item when we do.

>>44630609
how about a nice empowered geode?

>>44630589
Switch to craftsmen. Also practice our magic.

>>44630370
>>44629817
>>44629742
You want to make something out of nothing, now if we had something we could attach to say a staff we make that'd be something. But how about we get a decent amount of magic and then do that. So it's actually worth it.

Like I said before getting a better magic sight, better healing and stronger/ percise telekinesis would help with everything. Long term amd short term. And gives us a better opportunity to make a better tsaff/item when we do.
>>44630510
I agree.

>>44630609
It's not nothing, and practice in making a magical item can only help in kaking future ones

>>44630638
And having a tool help us to amplify magic shit until we grow into our power is bad how?

>>44630627
I missed that when looking at the stats. That would work. But we could also say call the magic god. And ask for a magic geode specific to empowering magic.
As a trade for say giving that God a name. Or figure out something.
>>44630689
Not bad, but we would benifit more from now being as blind when we try to craft something. Possibly break or ruin in some way the thing we're trying to make.

>>44630589
Practice magic.
Switch out fisherman for craftsman.

>>44630589
Craft a walking stick with the thought 'let this item be a stronger shaman', mix water and crystal dust (not all) and coat the head of the staff in the resulting paste, then let it dry off

>>44630770
*make me a better shaman

>>44630727
Yes but said tool could also make it easier to refine our magic sight which could help in future attempts in making an item. Again, practice

>>44630589
>>44630770
This, though instead of just coating it, why not try to paint Hawk eyes or stylized antlers on our staff (based on our memory of Lugal and Hawk God)?

>>44630627
Fuck, that was a mistake... I've not updated in a while.

Let me just fix that...

>>44630974
Belongings:
A few great wolf’s teeth
Great wolf’s head
Fine Charm of Healing
Small gourd of crystal dust
A few fine leather hides
A few fine animal bones

There you go.

Right, can I have everyone please re-post their votes now, because scattered as they are, it's kind of hard to get an accurate count. Soon as they're up, I'll count and write.

>>44631002
Continue using magic and try to get food in exchange for our services. Also try using the charm of healing when we heal someone to see if it helps.

>>44631002
Practice Magic

>>44631002
Switch out Fisherman with Craftsman, make a walking staff with carved and painted hawk eyes (using crystal dust) to emulate Ulh and his keen sight

>>44631002
>>44631075
That's his name, Ulh! Yeah do this

>>44631075
This!!!!!!

>>44631002
This>>44631075

>>44631002
Either practice magic or craft that stick, up to the majority

>>44631041
Seconded. If we can feed ourselves by practicing magic that's one less mouth eating our stored foods.

Also an idea for training magical telekinesis, we make a "target" by Out of a wood frame and a animal hide stretched between it.

We practice hitting it harder and harder till we can pierce it reliably and accurately (add a series of rings?). If we can pierce it then we are capable of hurting others quite effectively.

>>44631165
I am with you on practice magic.
But specialized training. We should wait on since. Regular training g improves everything but it gets better and we need sight + telekinesis to be able to hit a moving target.

>>44631254
True but this is just a exercise i have devised for the purpose of improving that, others include lifting rocks in order to increase our magic strength, getting elia to sneak around us for sight and stuff like that

>>44631002
nice to see this up.
Magic practice

>>44631002
Train magic
>>44631041
that didn't work if I remember correctly.

Alright, votes are now CALLED! Let's count them up and get typing. As far as I can tell at a glance, it's between a badass staff and practicing your juju.

I should inform you that just practice will get you RAPIDLY diminishing returns. Actual use will help a LOT more in regard to leveling up jobs.

Sadly, I am a scrublord and hard numbers on that will have to wait for the next generation.

>>44631516
So when you say practice, do you mean the activity or for things like my training sugestions or do you mean not using it for other purposes

>>44631516
That being said we can use >>44631317
Having Tyrm trying to see Elia sneak up on us further and further. While Say holding up several rocks. Trying to increase by weight how we handle and how many at a time.
We can also upgrade that to trying to tag with a rock, before he gets in range of touching us.
Healing is just healing anything we can heal as much as possible while trying to stay with in out known limits.Increasing that carefully.

>>44631516
Could we do something like going about and healing folks then? Sounds like it might be a way to increase our juju

The time has come for you to continue training your magic. You have the strangest feeling that if you had attempted it with an empty belly, it'd be much easier to lose control of the tempestuous force inside you. Naturally, that'd probably be a bad thing, so you wait until you have a few good meals inside you before you start training again. This time as well, you have a more solid plan to direct your training. Much like with ordinary muscle, you decide use is probably the best way to improve your spirit. Lifting heavy rocks with nothing but your mind is a start, but you also get Ebba to help you raise frames and make an improvised target range to test yourself. Strips and slabs of bark hang from strings, waiting to be struck with force; a leather hide stretched almost like a drum makes a target; Ebba helps as much as she can, testing your sight by sneaking up on you, or presenting objects for you to 'feel' and identify.

By the time winter starts to truly set in, you have a fairly impressive training ground that the clan avoids like the plague. The downside however, is that all this raw practice is only pushing your abilities little-by-little. Straining your mental 'muscles' turns out to be a very inefficient way of training yourself to use magic, even if your aim has improved a little.

As a shocking side-effect however, Ebba proudly asks you one day to watch a trick. In her hand, a single, fallenleaf floats, suspended as if from a spider thread, but feeling it with your magic, you can detect no such thing. Perhaps it's her being with you as you used magic so much; perhaps it is her heritage, but either way, Ebba has learned how to use magic. Beren is, predictably, horrified, but accepting.

>>44632678
It is now early winter. What will you do?
>Hunt the aurochs 1d10 (Strength -Blind)
>Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)
>Explore the forest
>Explore up the valley
>Explore the hills
>Try and investigate something new (List options)
>Make something special (List options)
>See what the mood of the clan is like, talk to people and get to know them (free)
>Change your active jobs and examine your inventory (free)
>Try to summon a new god
>Make offerings to a god
>Bring more land under cultivation
>Other

>>44632709
>>Make offerings to a god
The winter god. Pray for a milder winter.

>>44632709
Go around the village, offering your magical services in exchange for a small amount of food.

>>44632745
Supporting.

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>44632709
>Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)
take hold of a small sphere of water and wait until a fish swims across it. lift the fish and ball of water out of the river. Rinse and repeat.

>>44632709
>>Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)
Our sight sense should be better. we had a foot before. Now should be a bit larger. We should focus on catching fish in our vicinity. With in our sense zone.
Pulling them out individually out of the water on to land.

Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>44632832
my roll.

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>44632709
>Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)

Guys, I'm out and can't participate much but we have magic powers, a world to explore, and a monumental task given to us by a merciful goddess. And we spend most of our time fishing.

We need to adapt. We are blind. I think we need to bring Mesut, in on the plan, tell him about our task and ask for help. We don't need to make him our enemy.

We need to go full shaman/priest and set up our intertribal theocracy. Let's discuss this, how this might be done. My suggestion is
>find an effective way to get better at Magic
>learn as much as we can about the gods, maybe spend a season following each of the major local ones
>take on a disciple or two from our tribe, definitkey train our children
>approach the other tribes and tell them of "the command of the goddess"

If we ask Mesut to lead our tribe while supporting our vision quest and unification I think he will dig that, he's not a dick and we've helped each other before

>>44633056
Thoughts guys?

>>44633056
On top of your suggestion, people have mentioned feudalism/land ownership starting under Mesut. It's clearly in his plans. Why not take advantage of his aspirations and be allies? Better to have somebody in power and on your side, than be against him.

>>44633107
I agree on having Mesut help, but we need to work on getting respect in the village. We really scared the nomads, we need to fix that.

>>44633056
Supporting
We can't just sit back and fish, our powers are strong and we need to go out and use them on something only we can do and not any old pleb

>>44632709
Explore the forest

>>44633147
Mesut becoming the noble leads to a possible rebellion arc a few generations later. I can dig that.

>>44633056
If you guys agree with my suggestion, i think the first step is
>other (powwow with Mesut)
Let's try and figure out what we want to get out of the conversation and what we want to offer

>>44632784
Second this

>>44633260
But let's consult Belen and Elias and Galit

Alright, calling votes?

>>44633386
So long as we test our water sphere idea, gently first.

>>44633386
I hope it's not more fishing...

Not what >>44633056 is saying, we need to be properly trained up on the magical front before our pow-wow with Mesut. A little more practice will give us a better bargaining chip and more equal standing.

Train magic by fishing in the river and offering healing to people.

>>44634221
Fortune favours the bold. Training our magic by fishing seems like such a poor idea compared to just wondering around and waiting for some kind of event to happen out in the wilderness.

Besides we are destined for greatness not fishing

>>44634221
I just want to automate food gathering so we aren't living hand to mouth and can focus on other things

>>44634416
Getting fishing really good would grant us a reliable food source.

Some combat telekinesis could be a good thing to try for in spring.

>>44634416
I think once we reach a certain tech levels we will be able to do sucha thing, maybe after we mange to unite the tribes?

>>44634449
I don't mean literally automate I mean just not have to worry about at the player level, like have someone do it for us

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Perhaps precision is what you need most in your magic? Your training has indeed increased the range of your touch-sight from perhaps the length of your forearm, out to twice your arm's length and you have just the way to practice it more. Despite the biting cold, snowfall has been light for a few years now, so you dress up warmly and head down to the river to practice pulling the wriggling, slippery fish out of the water using the power of your magic alone. It's quiet down here at the riverbank in winter. Your clan doesn't want anything to do with the ice-cold water and the herders left in early fall, so you're alone, listening to the gurgle and splash of water over the rocks, the heavy breathing of the dogs you brought with you and the beating of your own heart, as you sit on a stone, close to the river's edge. The tranquility is almost too peaceful, crushing down on you with the weight of silence. You're so used to listening for anything now, that hearing so little is honestly a bit unsettling.

Sadly, your attempts are far from successful. Your touch-sight is deflected by the surface of the water, rendering you almost completely unable to feel anything beneath it, unless a catch is unfortunate enough to break the surface right where you happen to be groping. Most days, you don't even catch enough to feed yourself, much less any surplus.

You do have the most uncanny feeling you're being watched, but no-one approaches you and the dogs are quiet, so it must simply be a product of your mind seeking any other sign of life too intently.

>>44634490
It is now late winter. Sera seems to be quieter lately, as if something is troubling her.

What will you do?
>Hunt the aurochs 1d10 (Strength -Blind)
>Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)
>Explore the forest
>Explore up the valley
>Explore the hills
>Try and investigate something new (List options)
>Make something special (List options)
>See what the mood of the clan is like, talk to people and get to know them (free)
>Change your active jobs and examine your inventory (free)
>Try to summon a new god
>Make offerings to a god
>Bring more land under cultivation
>Other

>>44634416
>>44634449
You could ask your family to take care of it; Elia, Galit, Beren, Sera and Ebba are all potential workers, but you guys seem to like doing everything solo.

It is worth noting that you're still trying to fish with a spear, or rather you're hands, now you're blind. Your tribe has discovered nets, but you've never looked into getting one. All I'm saying is that options exist.

>>44634517
Explore the forest.

Fishing is worthless and who knows maybe we'll achieve some spiritual enlightenment

>>44634517
What sort of things can we do to improve our magic?

>>44634517
>See what the mood of the clan is like, talk to people and get to know them (free)

Make sure to check in with our family specifically. Good to keep them happy.

Also talk with Mesut about our mission with the god.

>Make something special (List options)

The staff idea that was further up the page. Maybe we can project our magic through a tool.

>>44634517
What the hell are they doing? We don't have to micromanage their actions dammit.

>>44634597
Well dad ain't doing shit so we might as well sit here and starve I guess.

>>44634517
Does our tribe hate us or something? I don't remember the guys that made the nets ever asking if we needed them or were willing to trade something for them. Hell even when we pick 'See what the mood of the clan is like, talk to people and get to know them (free)" it's like our people avoid us.

If we spend another turn fishing I quit

>>44634517
>Talk to Sera and see what's going on.

>>44634517
i say figure out whats is wrong with little Sera, in the mean time we could put Beren, Ebba to work on fishing while we work on doing something to increase our shaman power, maybe a focus to channel through? Either way it feels like we're having hit a platue or something.

>>44634708

Probably because we use a strange power that none of them understand?

>>44634517
>Talk to Sera and see what's going on.
Also let's try to make the staff idea >>44631075

Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>44634517
>>Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Fisher +Trait -Blind)
While training magic. Can we pick up a net that we pull via magic. And of course healing for who ever needs our service.
Have our kids watch, so they possibly pick up on the way we will fish.and our mistakes

>>44634846
Stop

>>44634791
I just feels like only Mesut does something besides us.

>>44634517
>>44634578
No to Mesut. He is well meaning but ambitous, and has taken all the prestige we would have gained from setting up planting by making himself the go between during harvest. I want us to be chief of the tribes in the valley, recognized to the point we ascend as a new god of humanity, not Mesut's well-remembered lapdog

I'm cool with backing the staff idea though

>>44634879
>>44634846
I think we need to set up commands for what the others can do, are we able to do that RWB? Just have the same things but just on a simplier scale since they aren't the player or what?

>>44634517
Talk with Sera, ask around for a net the next time we fish, work on that staff, then plan a pilgrimage to the herders to stay with them for a time a show them our magic is good. Hell, take Sera with us

>>44634517
>>See what the mood of the clan is like, talk to people and get to know them (free)
Honestly this option is something that should happen automatically or does our character spends the whole time not talking to anybody not even for small-talk? You should include things like gossip or what named characters are doing during updates.

>>44634925

I don't think ascension is going to be in the cards for us mate and if all goes well we should be the Chief Shaman of the Godsmoot. As far as I am concerned Mesut can run the tribe and is in fact better suited to running the tribe, I am aiming for Pope.

Acquire. A. Net.

>>44634974
>>44635002
BACKING

>>44634517
>>44635002
This

>>44635002
fourthing

>>44635002
This

>>44635031
Backing this too
Moses was prophet of the Israelites, Aaron was their king during the exodus. And none of you have heard of Aaron before

>>44635031
Well then you can push for that, but no I am not cool with Mesut getting all the glory. I want us to be King of Dragon Pass, not Pope Francis. Fuck that noise

>>44635031
Good thing that's not what won. Our aim is chief, ain't no time to be a beta bitch boy for Mesut

>>44634577
All you know is that magic relies on will, power and understanding. You have will - the direction for your magic, the impetus that gets it to do stuff. Power you have too, though not much of it. Your understanding though is weak as it comes.

>>44634597
They're keeping themselves alive, mostly doing chores around the house. YOU are in charge of the family though, so it's up to you to direct them. Immediate family are VERY easy to give orders to; they'll almost never be defiant, so long as you make any attempt at all to keep their morale up.

>>44634708
I don't recall a bit of that, honestly. You've not made any attempt to trade for or get a net though, honestly.

And yes, your people are a little scared of you. It's not a lot of fear and they'd probably deny it if you asked, but they tend to avoid you a little. Remember, until recently, cripples like you were politely left behind somewhere to quietly die, so they wouldn't burden the group.

So, uh, votes called and writing, I guess!

>>44635129
We can't really go up against him while we are blind dumasses,

>>44635077
We already voted on this anons, uniting the tribe as chief won. I didn't like that we decided to use magic and went blind, but I can't change what was voted beforehand

>>44634517
Make something special.

>>44635175
It wasn't as chief, re read the last thread

>>44635161
Who said we are fighting him? Just don't tell him, why is that hard? We already resolved to unite the tribe as chief after a tie and tiebreaker. It's not a matter the, of making Mesut chief but doing what we can to be a good chief

>>44635214
Not as chief, as godspeaker/shaman, REREAD last thread. The conversation with Belen

>>44635191
Red White and Britfag 01/04/16(Mon)21:24:58 No.44574474
Rolled 2 (1d2)

Alright, votes called. Writing!

Looks like a draw! Flipping a coin I guess.

>>44574307
Interesting theological point... Is it animist if the animal gods are taking on more human forms? And are actually provable beings you can meet?

>Convince people to accept the guidance of your clan, not necessarily you = 1
>Try to convince people to accept you as chief, among your own clan and others = 2

It was, the tiebreaker was a 2. Reread the thread

>>44635148
So our tribe is a bunch of people that don't really talk to each other. Gotcha.

>>44635261
>Try to convince people to accept you as chief, among your own clan and others = 2
This is what won, us being a shaman was the means with which we would beat Mesut as chief.

>>44635273
"Hmm... Me as chief might not be a bad idea," you muse, chuckling and sitting up. Beren helps you from halfway and kisses you again, as you both quietly laugh over the idea. "No... You're right; a blind man isn't a chief anyone would follow... Unless..."
"Unless what, my lover?" Beren asks, setting down her pestle and swinging herself into your lap, one arm over your shoulders. "You know how much I love it when you talk about stuff like this~"
"Well, I might not be able to bring the clans together as a hunter or a leader," you explain, running your fingers through her dark hair, "But I'm the one with magic-" You catch her sudden darkening of mood from the way she tenses up. "Which I am going to be VERY careful with-!" you hastily add, "And more to the point, I'm the one who talks to the gods directly."
"What are you thinking of?"
"A meeting under the authority of the gods. Mesut or Myslik or whoever can have the goods and the hunt and so on, but as long as I have the gods on my side, well... On the one hands, people are scared of what they might do and it'll be my duty to keep them content. On the other, the blessings of the gods could help anyone."
"So long as they agree to play by your rules, they'll have the benefits of you and any other god-speakers, but if they try to act out, you'll just revoke the gods protection from them," Beren finishes your thoughts for you. "I love it!"

It'll take some time in order to set things up. Beren might well be able to help in getting people on your side, but you both agree that this will really need a personal touch, to say nothing of the benefits actually showing off some magic will bring. The next time you visit another clan to gain their support, Beren will accompany you and start working her own kind of magic to further your plans for a single tribe, united before the gods.

>>44635310
A leader using magic and speaking with the gods sounds like a shaman to me, not a chief

>>44635322
>Unless what?

That implies that the godsmoot shit was a means to gain absolute control of the tribe. What part of that is hard to undesrstand?

>>44635306
I'm really not doing a good job with the social aspects of tribal and clan life, am I? Sorry everyone...

I'll try to do better. Probably because I'm a bit asocial myself, I'm not too sure how people even interact...

Anyway, votes called, as I said. Sera needs some words from daddy.

>>44635369
The part where we need to be chief of each individual tribe, instead of wielding religious authority over all of them

>>44635387
You should try making other characters do stuff more often. So far it feels like we always have to be the active party while everyone else is passive.

>>44635353
He is a leader, no? We would have more control then Mesut, making us defacto in charge of the tribe. Theocratric rulers are a thing, there does not have to be a seperation of church and state. The whole vote and following discussion was that we would become head of state by being defacto spiritual leader

>>44635396
Then we'd be the ruler via theocracy. That still makes us the head of state, heck that's what the Pope often was. He was both theocratic leader and head of state

>>44635444
>>44635481
Why not look at it then like Mesut is our subordinate, and we grant him chiefdom over this tribe, as our vassal, when we become Shaman-lord over all the tribes in the valley

It's more cooperative and it'll make it so we don't need to fish every fucking turn to survive and we can do some cool shit with magic

>>44635528
Because begging Mesut for help so we can do cool shit would sorely undermine our fledling authority, much like asking food for services would make us look weak.

>>44635528

Yes, please. This is the goal.

There are some anons in this thread with some very serious inferiority complexes if letting Mesut continue to handle administrative duties turns us into his "beta bitch boy"

>>44635568
*fledgling
Augh, curse these fat fingers

>>44635568
Only if we beg, instead of approaching him any other way

>>44635439
I do try, but it's sometimes hard to remember. Mostly, I have to keep it among your family, as they're the ones you interact with most.

Mesut helped pioneer home building. That couple at the river invented net fishing... I suppose I need to step things up though. The thing is, you guys are progressing MASSIVELY quickly, so if the clan keeps up with that, we'll be in a steampunk setting in a matter of two or three generations, you know?

Anyway, writing for real this time!

>>44635568
>much like asking food for services would make us look weak.
>doing it for FREE

>>44635568
We are chief, it can be a power move. Command him, in a way that doesn't pis him off (so in a regular conversation where we tell him about our plans) to take care of our family so we can explode mystical shit

>>44635582
Inferiority? We invented the harvest, and in handful years time Mesut has taken full authority and recognition. It's not inferiority, it's caution. Mesut wouldn't settle for being our underling, and would and HAS underminded us

>>44635657
How do you know?

>>44635568

Why assume we're begging?

"Mesut, I need to focus more of my attention on the gods and appeasing them. Plus bringing more magical power to bear to strengthen our tribe. I cannot do this while also having to worry about the upkeep of food for my family, though I can take some time to cultivate the land. We will flourish with more access to magic, all I need is a steady source of food."

Bam, simple sample conversation where we are most certainly not begging and in fact coming from a position of power because (aside from our daughter) no one else in the clan can do the shit we can do

>>44635657
>>44635582
RWB, settle this for us, can you have trym ask Belen about our relative popularity and respect among the tribe? And to talk us up to people?

>>44635666
Um, based on previous interactions with him? Mesut nearly took part of our tribe and started a war by circumventing the elders, our highest form of authority. Why would we be any different if we upset him or was in his way?

>>44635615
When I said "do stuff more often" I actually meant just regular things not inventions. Like just regular interactions or people we are in good terms giving some suggestions or just more talking. Like the last time we had to "react" to something was 3 threads ago when we got news that the goat herders arrived and since then we have to go out of our way for anything to happen.

>>44635726
He has always been straight and honest with us, treated us with respect.

We should try and win him over

>>44635657

Not sure where you're getting the idea he has recognition for it. Pretty sure everyone remembers that we were the ones playing with grass first.

He did that as part of an agreement that we ourselves made with him to split power back before we became blind and, big shocker, going blind prevented us from fulfilling our end of that bargain. Leaving him with more power because of our fuck ups. Mesut has never even attempted to backstab us.

Why do you want us to run literally everything, we're part of a living breathing world, not only can we not pull off running everything it would honestly be disappointing if we didn't have to think for our solutions and have other characters to interact with and just "underlings" that follow our every whim.

>>44635690
We can't control how Mesut perceives our request, though I hope RWB will let us role a leadershop role to gain Mesut's trust and patronage and not take it the wrong way

You find Sera making tinder for the fire. It's an essential, but very time-consuming job, feathering and flaking wood with a flint blade and binding it together into a tinder plug with dried grass and moss. It's perfect for if someone wants to be left alone however and the action lets the mind wander as you go through the motions half-asleep. It works so well for that in fact, that when you lay your hand gently on your daughter's shoulder, she starts suddenly and her knife slips, cutting her finger and causing her to bite off a curse. As you heal the injured digit, you carefully approach her withdrawal, asking why she's been avoiding everyone.
Sera sighs and flexes her fingers. "Sorry. I don't mean to act so... Unfriendly. I've just had a lot on my mind lately."
"Like what?" you ask, checking her hand once more and nodding, satisfied with your work when she doesn't hiss with pain.
"Like hunting," she sighs. Sera immediately catches your incredulous look and snorts. "Yes, I know how that sounds. It's not like that. I mean... You can't teach me, can you? Not... Well, not with your eyes." Her tone is apologetic; it's clear she's been avoiding talking to you for fear of upsetting you. "I'm very nearly a grown woman now - You know that everyone has to hunt or work, but everyone else is taught by their father or mother. Well ma doesn't hunt, you can't see and Uncle Elia... Well, he's Uncle Elia." She sighs. "It's nothing. I just feel like I'm... I'm a bad daughter? Or maybe I'm not and I'm just worried, because you're not a bad father, just..."
"I can't see and that means I can't be the kind of father you want."
"Exactly."

There seems to be little else to it. Sera is still the same as she always was and doesn't seem to resent you for your blindness; she's merely melancholy you can't be a father and daughter, the way parents have taught their children since the days of your grandfather's grandfathers.

>>44635770
I can see gaining his temporary trust, but as many have pointed out the man is ambitious, irregardless of how well-meaning he is. His track record makes a permanent cooperation unlikely. He might go for it now, but in the future he may decide our prior arrangement is not to his liking

>>44635817
We could still hunt with Sera, just not auroch.

/tg/'s biggest kid in the playground syndrome strikes again.

As a passing thought, you decide to ask Beren about what she has heard. She's ever been the more social of the two of you and has a better feeling for the general mood of the clan than you do. She's happy to tell you that the clan is largely content. To call them 'happy' would be pushing the word slightly, but with enough food in their bellies, no disasters to fear and no great internal strife, the clan is for the moment, concerned with very little. When you ask how they see you however, her tone falters somewhat.

Your magic and more importantly, your scars and blindness make you and uncanny figure in the clan. You are, after all, the first cripple to live among them for any great length of time. There's some talk that you're bad luck to be around and that maybe you angered the gods in some way, to be cursed as you have been. No-one would ever say such openly, of course! Next to the elders, you're one of the more important figures in the clan, if only for your achievement in preventing the clan from fracturing and for leading everyone here to where you can farm your food.
"No-one dislikes you," Beren says quietly, chewing her lip, "But they are uncomfortable around you. They think you're a little eerie, the way you're always off on your own. The gods are strange and because you use magic and talk to them, you're strange too. I wouldn't call it anything as strong as fear, but..."

>>44635857
Look, pretend it takes 20 years to achieve our goals without Mesut. It'd take 10 with him on our side. If he becomes a problem in 15 years it will still be manageable and we will be ahead of where we would have been otherwise.

If you really are so opposed to instructing him to help us, let's at least instruct the tribe to feed our family. They are afraid of us, we have authority over them, and it'll let us do something mor interesting than fish every single fucking day

>>44635817
Aw she just wants to hang out with dad and get a buck, well we could try a little expeditiion to one of the other tribes ourselves to say hello, see to those social bonds and along the way could hunt like a deer or something after all we could just lay out some traps, have her do the throwing for us and what not. Can't be too hard. Sides be hell of a lot easier to hunt then to fish with our mage sight.

>>44635798
That'll depend entirely upon your roll. Mesut's not unreasonable, but sometimes things are communicated badly. Remember, his attempt to split the clan was caused out of fear that the strangers would force you out of the valley, if nothing was done: a not entirely baseless assumption!

Anyway, that'll be it for tonight. I'm glad to see that there's some debate going on about your next move. Another few years of training magic and fishing and I think I'd have just generation skipped to shake things up a little...

I'm kidding, of course. Barring tragedy, moving to the next generation is eternally your choice.

Good night everyone. I'll see you in the morning as soon as I can, or on Monday, if the thread doesn't live that long. Until then, stay safe.

>>44635902
Settles it. We need to address the clan and tell them about our instructions from Rhea

>>44635771
I am fine with cooperating with our tribe, but the dude nearly drove our tribe to a costly war we barely avoided. Expecting Mesut to do our work for us and not having to owe him big is naive.

>>44635974
So how would you address the sustenance issue

We wasted the entire thread fishing, fix that

>>44635960
Do we need a crafting roll for the staff? What would our diepool be, if part of the crafting was mystical in nature?

>>44635969
That makes no sense.
What we need to do is show them that we're a producer. How about we trade our extra grain for the net.
And we start fishing with the net + magic. Don't know if they're using nets for fishing but I would assume so.
If not we look to have created an easier faster way to fish.
If they are, we still look like we provide for our family. While also training our magic. The tribe will see us fishing with them, if by some odd means. Still fishing among them. Not as a loner and as a producer. Aftrer several sessions of magic/fishing. Once our fight is a decent distance a few yards/meters sphere around us. We can go hunting.
We won't need a weapon since we could use sharp rocks or just if you want a few weapons of floating javelins into anything that gets in our range.

>>44636052
Hunting. It's clear our magic sight doesn't play well with water. We might at least eke out a two die pool with the magic sight hunting, which is better then our fishing pool. We just need to avoid hunting auroch, and stick to hunting deer or small foraging creatures

>>44636073
Fuck you no more fishing

We make them nervous, they think we are bad luck and have been cursed by the gods we need to prove that we aren't

Also quit namefagging

>>44636073
Also our healing should be a lot better, healing anyone that gets injured via.
We just set up a large and small field in addition to what we had previously. Should provide enough food that we don't need to fish or hunt year around. And heal
So we could share with the weak and old. Gaining their favor.
>>44636100
Yeah, and They see us not being among them. Fishing and potentially hunting with the group could solve how the stronger heads of family see us. And feeding the weak could easily see us as lucky/helpful to all. Via generosity.

>>44636052
Thread usually carries on to the next day, just keep the thread alive until then.

>>44636140
That's not a solution the time wasted

>>44636131
We can use the mystery as long as they trust and respect us

>>44636094
Yeah, and once we get the hang of hunting with magic sight then maybe we can try bigger game, and more importantly we can teach Sera some of what we know

While fishing wasn't as productive. We feed our selves some nights and when we had more than 3-4 fishes got back to our family to increase the diversity of the meal to be more than just grain.
Before we would only hunt and hunt and hunt. Not that we have some more free time, we can dedicate to other things.
And I think fishing with a net + magic. could net us a decent haul of fish. To feed 2-3 people in our family and increase steadily as we fish more. And fishing and shamanism goes up.
We feed our family while showing our kids how to fish with magic. And getting stronger magically. Possibly healing our own eyes eventually. Being bad ass, at hunting again + strong magic once we get our eye sight back.

Let's ask the wolf to teach our daughter to hunt

>>44636395
>inb4 SoquedxSera
Although honestly that could be good for our lineage. I support this now.

>>44636395
I'm all for this, father daughter hunting bonding exercise! Let's learn from a god together, boost our shamanism and strengthen our line.

>>44636437
Get each generation to mingle with gods.. Then turn to incest combining those blood lines, the final one born will become the Emperor of Mankind

>>44636847
Eh no, that would only work if we had a bunch of humans with magic an hero, THEN we would become Emperor.

>>44636073
I also like the idea of showing we can be of use to the tribe. The net plus magic could work, but you saw how the magic sight faltered against the water, too much back ground noise, I think it would be better to try going to one of the other tribes and along the way practice hunting with our magic. That way wed get the training AND show Sera how to hunt. Plus how else are we supposed to unite the clans? I think that Beren should keep making nice with the camp folk, while we go to Hunter Bros and talk abit with them about stuff. I mean after all we lost our eyes to magic, how metal can you get?

>>44636395
>>44636437
>>44636631
I had an idea on convincing Soqed, prideful being that he is, but it may require eating some crow on our part. We could appeal to his vindictive side, tell him that we are making a great sacrifice by offering Sera to be taught by him, because ultimately it shows that we failed in being able to teach her, but he can show up the man that killed him by doing what we've failed to do and do better by her. I'm not sure how thrilled you guys would be though, just a suggestion

>>44637363
As long as Sera becomes a badass hunter and has badass Hunter kids I'm up for anything.

Sera will learn how to hunt with Soqed help.

Bump

>>44637363
>it may require eating some crow on our part
I have a feeling Awak may object to that...

>>44636053
Currently, I don't believe craftsman is activated, so you'd be rolling two dice. As for your blindness, I think it'll apply the same kind of penalty for multiple actions.

As to what that IS, I'll need to look back in the archive somewhat...

>>44640327
Several people asked to switch to swap out fisherman with craftsman since the second update if this thread

>>44631075
>>44630586
>>44630075
>>44630756
>>44631100

So if you accept that, would that make our pool 4d10?

>>44640327
I actually thought about working that in as a joke as I was writing that suggestion, but I decided against it. Glad to know bird jokes are universal.

In any case when's the soonest we can swap jobs? I know people wanted to swap fisherman with crattsman earlier in thread, but I know we fished in between (what a fucking waste)

>>44640576
Okay yeah, 4d10 with the penalties.

It's really hard to find a difficulty curve that works. Either low levels are locked out of all by the most basic shit, or you get stupidly OP really fast... ANYWAY-!

Early spring has sprung, creeping its way across the valley and gracing everything with green and new life!

What will you do?
>Hunt the aurochs 1d10 (Strength -Blind)
>Fish in the river 1d10 (Skill +Trait -Blind)
>Explore the forest
>Explore up the valley
>Explore the hills
>Try and investigate something new (List options)
>Make something special (List options)
>See what the mood of the clan is like, talk to people and get to know them (free)
>Change your active jobs and examine your inventory (free)
>Try to summon a new god
>Make offerings to a god
>Bring more land under cultivation
>Other

>>44640639
>bring more land under cultivation.

>>44640639
>Bring more land under cultivation

>>44640639
>Change your active jobs and examine your inventory (free)
We have enough food to last us until Summer, right? I don't see a problem with what a couple of anons suggested and asking Soqed to teach our daughter to hunt. Maybe she can go animist path and hunt with our domesticated wolves eventually?

>>44640639
>Change your active jobs and examine your inventory (free)
If we're going to make the staff we have to slot in Craftsman job.

>>44640757
>>44640825
Job changed!

Trym
Age: 33
Jobs: Craftsman 2 Leader 3 Shaman 1
Inactive: Hunter 3 Fisher 2
Injuries:

Strength: 2
Speed: 2
Skill: 2
Spirit: 1
Wits: 2
Charisma: 3
Traits:
Experienced Fisher: Gain a +3 to any attempt at fishing and a +1 to resist the effects of negative events while fishing
Blind – Maximum of 1d10 for any task requiring sight. Other penalties may apply.

Equipment: 4 javelins
Flint fishing spear
Flint knife
Flint spear
Hide pants
Hide tunic
Goatskin jacket
Sling
Wolf-claw knife

Belongings:
A few great wolf’s teeth
Great wolf’s head
Fine Charm of Healing
Small gourd of crystal dust
A few fine leather hides
A few fine animal bones

Rolled 4, 5, 4, 3 = 16 (4d10)

>>44640639
Craft staff, have Sera prepare and gather food and supplies or a pilgrimage to the Herders

>>44640845
Hold your horses there, Anon. I'll be discounting the rightmost roll in that sequence, because of your blindness. You can craft by touch, but I'm applying the same penalty as you would get for multiple actions.

i.e.: -1d10 for any action, to a minimum of 1d10. If an action already only rolls 1d10, multiple actions impose a -5 modifier
These numbers are for attempting two tasks simultaneously. The more you split your attention, the bigger the penalties.

>>44640872
Multiple actions? Is asking Sera to get ready for travel while we make a staff that penalizing?

>>44640872
Wait okay what multiple actions? Can you just tell us our total pool is for the roll with penalties?

Rolled 10, 4, 4 = 18 (3d10)

>>44640872
So 3d10 then?

Rolled 3, 4, 10 = 17 (3d10)

>>44640872
Is it best of three rolls?

>>44640893
>>44640909
It's not a multiple action penalty, just one for being blind.

Look, if you want to make a shaman's staff, you'll be rolling 3d10. It's that simple. Due to the tools and materials being used, the highest grade you could get out of this is Superior, which still is pretty damn amazing by stone age standards and comes with some minor benefits.

>>44640946
It always is, anon. I take the highest of the first three rolls for an action, provided it's the action voted for.

Rolled 3, 7, 9 = 19 (3d10)

>>44640872
rolling for posterity

Rolled 2, 1, 2 = 5 (3d10)

>>44640872
Not sure if the 4d10 should count, given it was rolled before anon knew the actual pool. Up to you

>>44640956
East as. We can always make another when we're healed/a better Craftsman.

You know what's weird? Our interest in pairing Soqed with Sera reminds me that Soqed would be keeping an eye out for our firstborn. Anyone think Soqed called it?

>>44641284
That's actually why I had the idea to send her off with hjm

>>44641284
Are you implying Soqed was in on this wife husbandry shit? He was after our girl all along, the monster!

>>44641318
>our blindness is all a part of a genji plot done by soqed

Alright, votes called. By the looks of things, you're making a fancy walking stick.

Hawk's head with antlers, wasn't it?

>>44641391
No, use Soqeds skull

>>44641391
Make it Auroch horns and I'm in. >>44641402 too

>>44641402
noooo., what is we see him! Hey man just using your head

>>44641391
>>44641402
>>44641421
Go ahead and write, mate. If people disagreed they'd voice it.

>>44641577
Sorry, was fighting a minor panic attack.

Might have to call it here. I'm so sorry. Hands won't stop shaking.

>>44642281
No worries mate, take your time and put yourself before the quest. Hope you make a good recovery and thanks for running

>>44642281
Person health takes priority. Take your time and get better

>>44642281
All is good man, get well soon