Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>46737037

>>46737092

So, we are drawn from the Order of the Bloody Rose. We like to purge already.

Roll d10 for our Order's purpose.

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>46737232
Purposing.

>>46737258

Crusade! We travel around to purge for the Emprah!

Roll a d10 for our big issue as an Order.

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>46737350

>>46737410

Bad Ecclesiarch Relations! We do our praisin' different than the Imperial Cult likes, and they don't like us for it!

Roll a d10 do our Order's demeanor.

Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>46737529
These rolls are off the chain, yo

Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>46737529

Rolled 8 (1d10)

>>46737529
Posing

>>46737544
>>46737553
>>46737551

See But Do Not Be Seen, Suffer Not The Xenos, or Suffer Not The Heretic.

Pick one, folks!

Personally, I find the idea of sneaky sisters fun.

See but not be seen.

>>46737659
Could always do all three

>>46737659
All three

>>46737659
>>46737711
>>46737718
All three, let's go with operating Sister operating operationally

>>46737718
>>46737711

All three it is then. We play it smart and sneaky and leave no Xenos scum and Heretic filfth standing in our silent wake.

Roll a d100 for our primary Saint.

Rolled 37 (1d100)

>>46737771

Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>46737771
Praying

>>46737782
>>46737779

Canoness Superior or Celestian Commander!

>>46737856
Canoness Superior

>>46737907
2nd

Canoness Superior it is!

d100 as to why we revere her so!

Rolled 41 (1d100)

>>46737957
Revering

Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>46737957

Oh wow, it seems that not only do we revere her, we follow her example. She mulched a Daemon Prince AND made a massive mess of an Eldar Craftworld.

d100 for our homeworld designation.

Rolled 50 (1d100)

>>46738121

Rolled 83 (1d100)

>>46738121

Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>46738121
Living

Civilized, Shrine, or Feral world. Your pick.

>>46738367
Civilized Shrine

>>46738367
SHRINE

>>46738367
Civilized Shrine that's a moon to a feral world

>>46738367
Gotta be civilized for that holy operators operating operationally shtick.

>>46738367
SHRINE NIGGA

>>46738418
Civilized shrineworld gets my vote

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>Operator as fuck
>Hates aliens
>Hates heretics
>The ecclisearchy hates them for being too operator

Pretty good so far.

>>46738419

Going for this one because I like it. As we got two worlds, roll two d100 for terrain!

Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>46738543

Rolled 34 (1d100)

>>46738543
Landing

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Do they all wear NVGs?

Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>46738543

>>46738551
>>46738570
>>46738602
Artic, desert

I think we should go with urban, though

>>46738952

I dunno. Coming from harsh climes means having plenty of wilderness skills, which would help with being badass operators. Though, perhaps it could still be bent the other way; say there are only a few big population centers on the planet, while the rest is unforgiving wilderness.

Wait. I got it. Say their planet is tidally locked, one half exposed to the sun while the other is in perpetual darkness. Any major cities are in the narrow habitable zone between the two halves, and the Sisters regularly brave the extreme elements outside the zone in order to train.

This could even factor into their heraldry. Say their symbol is some variation on a circle with one half in white and the other in black.

>>46738952
A desert like artic world with heavy urbanisation

>>46739197
So basically Valhalla?

>>46739254
I thought Valhalla was just an ice world?

What I meant was that the world would kinda sorta be like the Sahara Desert but with snow

>>46739172
I like the idea of an "urban jungle", a literal fuck ton of ruins (maybe former shrine world?) that make up most of the world's "environment". Animals designed to blend in urban settings, feeding on tribal humans living outside of the civilized portions of the world. They would learn the techniques needed to pick out things hiding in the urban areas, how to survive without support in abandoned areas, war-torn regions can provide experience with surviving in combat zones, and stuff

>>46739775
>>46739172
Don't like this. The whole "jungle badasses" thing is played out.

>>46739868
Its not a literal jungle, its just a fuckton of blown out abandoned buildings

Hey folks, friend of OP here. Net troubles arose, so they'll be back as soon as they can manage.

>>46738952
Maybe they recruit from a civilized shrine world, but do all of their training on a feral world that's half arctic and half desert (the tidally locked thing)? Sort of like Space Paris Island, they train there in the extreme elements until they graduate and are sent out to the crusading fleet.

>>46739884
You two are going for the "survival operators" or "jungle rambos", both of which are done to death.

Go with a holy order of stealth assassins, hailing from a civilized shrine world. They are the high tech tacticool operators instead of the jungle rambos or survivalists. Their methods are too operator for the eclesiarchy (and 40k in general), which is why they are disliked.

A tacticool operator SoB order sounds a lot cooler than a survivalist SoB order. No need to say "they come from this type of planet so they operate like this". The planet they come from shouldn't be what primarily shapes their characteristics. In fact, it should have very little impact on things, since the Order can just use other uninhabited planets for training their recruits.

But give them a civilized shrine-world, and they have something to protect. It's something that they can be proud about. It works even better with the fact that the eclesiarchy hates them for their worshipping methods.

Op here, I have returned. The civilized/shrine world will be fudged as urban, as I like what >>46740163 is suggesting. The feral world will be Artic Desert.

Now then, roll a d10 for our influence on our civilized world.

Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>46740767

Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>46740767
let's see if we can rule them with an iron fist

Noticeable Influence. We maintain enough of a presence to protect our interests.

d10 for our Order organization. How many SoBs do we have?

>>46741086
I think our order should have the unique trait since we seem to be going for a covert type of order. So we wouldn't really be following protocols when it comes to how we are organized.

>>46741175

Aye, I think we're firmly in the Unique Organization way of organizing, so skipping that.

As for strategy, we're pretty clearly Stealth.

d10 for our special gear.

Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>46741275
rolling for modified weaponry for maximum tacticool bolters.

Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>46741275

>>46741385
>>46741396

Rare Weaponry since Standard just is not our game. What's the rare weaponry that we use for our sneaky infiltration?

>>46741530
Have it be whatever the mission requires? Silenced weaponry is a given I think but beyond that it should be something like the individual sister is allowed to have her own say in what she brings into the field

The order is home to a wide array of rare and powerful weaponry so the sisters would have a great deal to pick from in the armoury.

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>>46741530
Storm shields being used SWAT style, perhaps?

>>46741617

That could work, though I'm getting the idea they manage this by being the SoB equivalent of the Bloody Magpies.

>>46741671
I'm all for this

Anyways, keep on discussion' while you role a d10 for how we praise.

>>46741673
not necessary, they could hold close ties to other organizations such as the astartes, mechanics, or assassinorium.

have it tie into our founding, the order was founded during a crusade but we were meant for the more 'shadowy' sides of the crusade. Going deep behind enemy lines and observing the enemy, killing high priority targets or causing mayhem through the disruption of their supply lines or having the citizens revolt against their rule, etc.

Rolled 8 (1d10)

>>46741744
Something bizzare would be appreciated

Rolled (1d0)

>>46741744
hoping for 1-6 or maybe even 10

Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>46741843
herp derped

>>46741843
>Rolled (1d0)
damn

I mean, fuck, we can always just CHOOSE what we want if what comes out is shit. Nothing limiting us but us and the canon

>>46741822

Fair enough, and I like that. It would explain both our crusade setup as well as why we operate so differently.

>>46741843
>>46741877
>>46741880

Faith over Steel, Penance and Obligation, or fluff our own, what do you folks think?

>>46741829
>>46741877
Not sure Faith Over Steel matches the idea that we're going with, but Penance and Obligation absolutely could. Especially if the reason the Order feels the need to repent is related to why the Ecclesiarchy doesn't like them.

>>46742008
I'd say Penance and Obligation mixed with minor death cult and some esoteric beliefs

>>46742008
agree with this anon, Penance and Obligation sounds the best. Our relation with the Ecclesiarchy is in the shits and they've ordered us to repent through blood but we've found others who are willing to supply us with what we need. Maybe have the Ecclesiarchy pissed off at us becase of what we did during the crusade (maybe we killed an Ecclesiarch who was high up in the sectors chain of command but our order had found out he/she had turned to chaos and was well under way to bringing a large portion of the sector into the hands of chaos)

>>46742066

So we fucked up something fierce early on and are trying to redeem ourselves of it, to death if need be, with some alterations to better fit the more shadowy nature of our Order?

>>46742211

This, I like this. So we'll work with this.

d10 for our size. This might get interesting.

Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>46742405
captcha wants popcorn

>>46742066
I think to go with the Tactical Operators theme the beliefs should be focused around NOT dying for the Emperor, and killing for Him instead. A pretty strange divergence that the Ecclesiarchy doesn't like obviously, but not quite enough to be considered heretical. The sisters of the order believe that they can't die until they've paid the blood debt that they owe to the Emperor (let's say 99 xenos or heretics), and the ones who have paid their debt and are allowed to die are inducted into the Celestians and alternately lead the rank-and-file sisters or participate in the most dangerous missions. Sisters mark their armor with their kill counts, and are known to come to blows after battle over arguments over who gets credit for each confirmed kill.

>>46742483
That's absolutely perfect. The order is about to die out, and adopted heavy use of "dishonorable" tactics in order to preserve themselves. It's also a bit meta.

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>46742405

>>46742596
I don't think stealth and espionage is considered as dishonorable by the Imperium. It could mean since the Ecclesiarchy is pissed at us they've stopped supplying us with fresh Sisters until they deemed us "worthy" again to get shipped a fresh batch of Sisters.

OP, now with a name

>>46742551
I think we have a winner here for our beliefs.

>>46742483
>>46742671
So either way, the consensus is that our numbers are definitely under-strength, then.

Some possible names

Sisters of Shadow
Order Reclusia
Sorores Silentium
Namaroth Blackhearts
Umbra Coven
Order Uxores Mortem
Daughterhood of Baba Yaga

So we're going for a covert ops theme, but what about culturally? Do we even want one?

Like Splinter Cell catsuit clad bolter bitches work just fine by themselves but maybe we can spice it up with KGB chicks? Japanese Ninja babes, maybe we can use the Thunder Devils as allies? Native American scalpers?

I don't know, just a thought

>>46742789

Aye. Although I think the current theme is leaning more towards Splinter Cells sisters on a mission, what are they like back home?

Roll d100 for allies, though reroll on a 61-65(Ecclesiarchy)

Rolled 69 (1d100)

>>46742993

Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>46742993

Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>46742993
We live on a Shrine/Urban/Ruin world right?

A maze of urban sprawl and super structure?

What would that lend itself to? Slavs?

Rolled 63 (1d100)

>>46742993

>>46742789
>Sorores Silentium
>Umbra Coven
>Order Uxores Mortem

Best ones there

Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>46743083
rerollan

>>46743042

We're based on an urban Civilized Shrine World of a moon orbiting a frozen desert of a Feral World.

It looks like we have an IG regiment as well as possibly an Astartes chapter and another Order as pals.

>>46743176
If we get autistic, Hua Yuan was all about being tacticool, in a way.

>>46743176
Thunder Devils and Exterminators?

Operator buddies?

>>46743176
What if we're allies with the Marines who recruit from the tribes living on the feral world?

>>46742789
More possible names.

>Order of the Hidden Rose
>Order of the Unseen Thorn

I like the idea that they could be KGB-ish. Snipers, secret police, their battlefield work is usually as a platoon performing recon for a larger military force. They could have close ties with their home planet's Arbites, and their "crusades" could be across the Imperium itself rooting out dissidents and conducting secret investigations of planetary governors. The idea that the Ecclesiarchy doesn't like them because they killed a corrupt Cardinal or someone else who was influential, plus they couldn't tell anybody why they offed the bastard because everything they do is a state secret.

>>46743282
Holy shit, I didn't even think of the KGB. I think a more tacticool approach to them would make it absolutely perfect, though I do want muh swat operations in spaaace

So we're the Sisters that the Imperium needs, but not the ones it deserves?

>>46743314
>muh swat operations
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Hua_Yuan_Exterminators

>>46743282
>>46743314

So we work like the KGB in SPESH then? This would lend us towards for our Arbites as allies certainly. What about the Inquisition or SPESH MAHREENS? And the idea that we're in the Ecclesiarchy's bad books due to assassinating someone influential is sounding pretty good.

>>46743406
Less toned down than that, though. They're all "flash and clear + subtle obnoxiousness" where as these should be pure ghosting and surgical strikes

>>46743482
>Less toned down than that,
More, I meant

>>46743441
>Ecclesiarchy's bad books due to assassinating someone influential is sounding pretty good.

Which is Ironic because Goge Vandire himself was killed by the women who would form the Adepta Sororitas.

>>46743482
>>46743482

than we should just stick with SOCOM style sisters. Have individual teams of sisters out in the field doing specific tasks.It would fit within the theme more since the order isn't too big on the numbers department.

>>46743482
So the exact opposite?

While the Exterminators are all
>"HAHA IT'S OPERATING TIME, GWEILO!"
>"No guardsman, no!"

These sisters are all
>"Wait why the fuck is everyone ki-*GACK*"

>>46743441
I think we should go more Splinter Cell/MGS/SOCOM with these gals. The russian elements could go way out of control like they almost did for Hua Yuan.

>>46743314
Cracking down on dissidents with a 50/50 mix of lethal and less-than-lethal tactics. The ones that survive will only live long enough to be interrogated about their friends.

I had this idea ages ago about an SoB interrogator injecting a prisoner with a prometheum diluted with some kind of healing agent. The result was the prisoners blood vessels being burned out from the inside but healed fast enough as not to kill them, an obscenely painful process that lasts several hours and is guaranteed to loosen any tongue. Unfortunately for them spilling the beans is useless, since the process cannot be stopped once it's initiated - but once the cleansing fire has finished making it's way through their body they are considered pure enough to join the Emperor in death.

>>46743579
The exterminators and the sisters could probably work well together, it would just play out like normal guard + elite imperial force just 90-100% more tacticool

>>46743600
Yeah. I'm really thinking less 'Breach & Clear' and more 'In and out without a sound'

Have we rolled enemies?

Perhaps the Exterminators as the flashier show to distract from the sneaky work of our ladies?

We most certainly have at least one Eldar Craftworld as our enemies, as well at least one Chaos force, should we roll for more?

Rolled 88 (1d100)

>>46743652
if its not 1 I'm killing myself

>>46743669
>>46743652

Eldar and Chaos seem like good enough enemies for now. Maybe have a quasi enemy within the Ecclesiarch? It would help explain why we're so low in numbers and maybe we would be waging a shadow war with a sect of the local branch that has ties to Chaos somehow.

Do we HAVE to have the Exterminators as their allies?

I was balls deep in their project, but they where kinda...heretical, ya know? Sisters might not jive their more...laid back stuff.

Do these Sisters prefer to use carapace armour rather than power armour? Or will they switch to whatever the tactical requirements of an op require?

>>46743739
Why not just Dark Eldar?

Best of both worlds

>>46743600
While I think there's room for both SOCOM and KGB in the same room, I do agree that if the Soviet stylings go in they should be kept subdued. The last thing we want is for an otherwise cool idea to turn into VODKA GIRLS LOL.

>>46743754
>but they where kinda...heretical, ya know?
I guess they weren't the most orthodox, but they certainly weren't heretical. These gals aren't in favor with the ecclesiarchy either.

But we don't have to go with them. Assasinorum are sorta sneaky, maybe they could have allies in the sniper guys exclusively

>>46743765

We seem to have a taken a more "Depends on situation" set-up for the loadouts. They take what they need for an op.

>>46743784
Agreed. The Russian styling should be kept to their homeworld and ceremonial/civilian stuff and stay out of their operational look.

>>46743805
Here's an idea - maybe they train with the Vindicare temple in some capacity. Not to the extent that they are on par with the assassins proper, but if they have close ties with them they could have some that come in as advisors and trainers to turn the otherwise rank-and-file Sisters into holy Splinter Cell agents.

>>46743874
That's a one way ticket to Snowville

>>46743874

I like this. And not just with Vindicare assassins, what about some degree of advisory from the Callidus branch as well?

Also, considering the path we've taken, how the hell did our Canoness Superior waste a Daemon Prince? The same goes possibly for the Craftworld, as our Order clearly isn't a front line force.

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>>46743914
I'm imagining this, but with boob plate.

>>46743914
Lets fucking not do that.

>>46743914
>>46743971
So the Cannoness just went full Metal Gear boss-fight on a Daemon Prince?

>>46743874
>>46743914
I vote against including assassins. It feels off.

>>46743914
Maybe she learned from fighting the eldar that subterfuge and stealth is the best form of fighting and she turned their tactics on their heads?

>>46743982
>>46744008

So two votes against assassins, anyone else want to weigh in on this?

Also, we still need to decide on a name, a number of suggestions were made earlier at
>>46742789
>>46743282

Rolled 2 (1d3)

>>46744126
>>Sorores Silentium
>>Umbra Coven
>>Order Uxores Mortem

I'll let the gods decide my vote

>>46744126
I like Order of the Hidden Rose, possibly mix it with the one below for Order of the Hidden Thorn.

I'm not sold on the other list as much.

>>46744126
ya let's not go with assassins. Have the sisters be an order that trains to fight and fights to train. Where they learn from each operation they're sent on.

>>46744142
I like Umbra Coven

>>46744126
I vote for "Order of the Hidden Rose," primarily because every canonical Order goes by the "Order of the ______" convention.

I'm not totally in love with the name though. If anybody else has ideas, let's see them.

>>46744217
>>46744192
Order of the Umbra Coven maybe?

>>46744126
Voting against assassins as well. It's a bit Mary Sueist in hindsight, not really something the Assassonorum is known for doing and it makes the Sisters themselves less cool.

>>46744217
>Order Uxores Mortem
That one could work?

>>46744249
>>46744192

No assassins it is then. These sneaky gits of an Order train themselves.

>>46744217
Order of the Fallen Snow
Order of the Blackest Night
Order of the Breaking Dawn
Order of the Death Wives
Order of the Night Daughters
Order of the Hidden Knife
Order of the Whisper
Order of the Fallen Knight
Order of the Shewolf
Order of the Banshee Queens

The Canoness that we revere so, what was her name?

>>46744341
Big Canoness/Naked Viper

>>46744307
I vote "Order of the Whisper"; it seems appropriate and not too gimmicky.

The theme we're going with seems really familiar...

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Obsidian_Mirror

>>46744400
Shit, never heard of those

>>46744400

It seems like it, but the Obsidian Mirror seems more focused on psychological warfare and breaking the morale of enemy forces, where as our girls are focused on stealth and infiltration, aiming for surgical strikes against their target.

>>46744455
Granted, but you gotta admit there's significant overlap (high focus on stealth, poor Ecclesiarchy relations, rivals with Eldar)

>>46744475
Eldar stuff isn't set in stone yet

>>46744475

Yes, and they look to have a Russian theme to their character naming as well. Though they look to be much more willing to use much more overt strategies than we are.

>>46744400
>>46744527
I think we need to work a bit harder to differentiate this group from the Obsidian Rose.

Off the top of my head: Maybe drop the Russian angle? Or perhaps have them oppose Tau or something rather than Eldar? Or maybe whereas the Obsidian uses psychological warfare, this group is 100% about the stealth and actively avoids pitched fights?

>>46744341
>>46744366
Quiet

>>46744341
Samia Hamiota?

Something Pliskin?

Would this order be bastardly enough to infiltrate other imperial organizations with sleeper agents to gather intel on possible heresy?

>>46744624

Agreed. I intend for this Order to remain totally focused on covert ops and stealth. Especially due to how under strength we are, which I'm currently thinking as being dangerously low, but not quite endangered yet.

Hmm, dropping the Russian angle, there another culture we should aim for?

>>46744706
That does sound like something they'd do. I could see them 'transferring' members to other non-combat orders in order to have good covers for their agents.

>>46744706

Yes, yes we are. Current idea for the primary reason for why we're on the Ecclesiarchy's shit list is that one of the Sisters assassinated an influential member for Heresy without going through all the hoops/telling them why.

>>46744708
Well, if we're still going for winter/urban, what about something like Finland or one of the other Norse countries? Not going full mythology, but closer to the more modern real life cultures.

>>46744776
Yeah; a Nordic-esque influence sounds interesting.

>>46744776
for monastery or whatever its called, why not just go full shadow moses. Cold, impersonal, industrial

>>46744708
Maybe base them off British M.I.6 and WW2 SOE (Special Operations Executive)? British intelligence during WW2 was extremely creative and resourceful when combating Axis intelligence efforts.

So we rolled Chaos Space Marines right? As our enemies?

Everyone happy with that?

>>46744624
Maybe drop the Russian angle and go full CIA with them. Give them a 50s era red scare culture, but find/replace Communists with Heretics. They're a paranoid lot, convinced of the guilt of themselves and those around them until innocence is proven. They could operate on the fringes of Imperial space, constantly fighting against the creeping threat of liberalism that causes otherwise upstanding Imperial citizens to consider trade and diplomacy with Xenos an acceptable option. They assassinate planetary governors they view as too divergent, deliver weapons to extremist groups of Fraternis Militia, and engineer the rise of leaders who will fall more in line with the Imperium. Of course they frequently don't, and the unseen crusade goes back to square one.

>>46744822
Chaos is exactly what we shouldn't do if we want to make them not a rehash of the Obsidian Mirror, isn't it? I thought Mirror was anti-Chaos.

I say we oppose them to Eldar (norm or dark), or Tau

>>46744856
Tau if >>46744850
Eldar if we stick to pure operator

>>46744856
Well we hate Xenos right?

Why not take a page from Exterminator Doctrine and root out Genestealers? Dark Eldar Cabals? Gue'Vesa agents?

We hate Heretics too, not necessarily Chaos

>>46744856
>>46744822
>>46744889

Why don't we have them up against less Chaos cultists and more normal threats, like Xenos-sympathizers or potential tech heresy.

More dealing with potentially corrupt internal affairs, tending towards mundane, but with the occasional act of Chaos.

Then maybe we have Eldar or Tau pulling some strings as their primary antagonists, but less open warfare, and more information and espionage.

>>46744884
Agreed; the Tau are the perfect foil for them if they're all "red scare" themed. Like, they're trying to prevent everyone from being seduced by the "greater good" nonsense, and have everyone fall in line with Imperial orthodoxy.

>>46744455
The Obsidian Rose was all about surgical strikes as well. I think the main difference is that the Obsidian Rose was explicitly an intelligence agency, while these sisters should be special operations. They're not about the subtlety of spycraft, they're there to kill and destroy.

>>46744901
I think these girls are more deadly than that. I think the Obsidian Roses are the Interrogating type.

These girls do more Solid Snake stuff.

>>46744983
>>46744988

So the assassins and saboteurs to the the Obsidian Rose's spies and propaganda.

Hey, do you figure the two Orders should explicitly be allies with one another? I mean, if their methods are so similar, they'd have good synergy.

got suggestions for OP?
http://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/46733039#top

>>46744901
>>46744988
I say go for the 50s Red Scare mentality. Commies in Hollywood? Heretics trying to subvert our youth. Commies in Cuba? Genestealer domino theory. Iran nationalizing its oilfields? Tau sympathizers in need of a regime change.

>>46745140
Then these really are Metal Gear SOCOM girls.

>>46745140
Yeah, sort of that type of thing. By 'information and espionage' I moreso meant that they'd be gathering intel on where they need to ghost into and snap all the necks.

>>46745140
Though, with the decreased support and resources form the Ecclesiarchy, I'd say they would have to very careful about what operations they engage in, lest they bite off more they can chew and are forced to be creative and do more with less.

>>46745031
Not really, as the OM also did assassination and sabotage, we're more on the low-key side. OM publicly assassinates a rebellious governor in a manner designed to destabilize the rebellious elements and turn the populace against them in fear of Imperial retribution. We're more of the "found dead in his bed of a self-inflicted bombing," type.

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So far we have:
>Stealth operators
>Disliked by the eclesiarchy
>Very few numbers
>Adaptable equipment
>Hates Xenos and Chaos

Can we make their leader subtly similar to The Boss? Subtlety is key.

>>46745281
I think bombing is too loud. Also is everyone happy with Order of the Whisper?

>>46745294
Two Eyepatches

>>46745341
Got pregnant on a battlefield

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>>46745341
The Boss didn't have an eyepatch. You're thinking of Big Boss.

>>46745281
>>46745335
Order of the Whisper sounds good, and I agree on the bombing. Ideally, a perfect mission for these sisters should mean nobody realizes they were there.

>>46745341
So...a blindfold?

>>46745294

I believe our legendary Canoness is our Big Boss figure due to wrecking a Daemon Prince's shit on her own.

>>46745335
I'm liking Order of the Whisper myself. After all, we'll have been naught but a whisper by the time our work is down in a region.

>>46745354
Hold on we can do better than order of the whisper. It's not cool enough and doesn't have enough impact in its name.

>>46745351
So I am. Clearly this means the more eyepatches you have the bigger of a Boss you are.

>>46745354
We are VERY over due for a summary.

Can someone compile for next thread?

>>46745364
Hmm...maybe something like Midnight Whisper? That might be a bit much though. Mostly I just like the Whisper idea.

>>46745364
That's the point

>>46745335
It's a small bomb. The best bombings are the ones you don't realize have happened until a valet attempts to shake him awake only for the charred and ruptured remnants of his internal organs to slide out his anus.

Moral of the story: if the pate tastes funny, you're probably going to die.

>>46745379
Ardent whisper?
Argent Whisper?
Eternal Whisper?
Unheard Whisper?

>>46745382
If these girls are going to be doing Solid Snake stuff, their name needs slightly more impact.

Also, a name as simple as just "whisper" because they're assassins and stealth people seems like a cop-out. It's the obvious and easy way out.

>>46745364

We're an Order dedicated to being sneaky gits. We don't want a flashy name. We want to be overlooked, ignored.

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>>46737232
>>46737350
>purge
>crusade
I like where this is going sisters.

>>46745400
I like Ardent or Argent

Which is the one that's not getting used by that Shroud order?

>>46745412
Why announce in our name that we're the stealth order?

>>46745421
Stop being a pedantic little shit and type up a summary

>>46745420

Ardent is the one not being used.

>>46745430
We can't call each other pedantic little shits if we disagree on something.

Personally, I think naming the order "whisper" or anything of that regard is too obvious and is the easy answer.

>>46745421
>>46745476
I can see it being a bit weird. It could be something more subtle, but we're having enough trouble as it is.

I think including Thorn might be good. It shows that we're drawn from Bloody Rose, isn't too out there as far as names go, and gets across that we're about subtly stabbing things.

>>46745476
sisters susurrate?

>>46745476
No but seriously we need a summary.

Order of the Falcon?

>>46745522
sisters sibilate?

>>46745516

Reference to our Order of origin could a good idea. Perhaps the Order of the Phantom Thorn?

What about something that subtly ties them to the Metal Gear groups? (Fox Hound, Outer Heaven, Diamond Dogs).

>>46745540
Hmm, Phantom Thorn sounds good so far. I'm liking the MGSV reference. And it's also subtle.

>>46745555

And completely unintentional. I've yet to play any of the Metal Gear games, so references to those don't come readily to me.

>>46745540
>>46745543
>>46745555
Phantom Thorn might be a bit on-the-nose just as whisper was, though it is a pretty solid reference.

You know what? Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I like "Order of the Phantom Thorn". I'd say that has my vote for now.

>>46745543
Sisters Cipher, I guess
Order of the White Rose
Daughters of the Emperor

I dunno man, a lot of the Metal Gear names are inter referential, unless you want to use particular naming schemes of these organizations

>>46745372
Taking a crack at it. Feel free to copypasta this:

Progenetor: Order of the Bloody Rose
Purpose: Crusade
Flaw: Bad Ecclesiarchal Relations
Traits: See But Not Be Seen, Suffer Not The Xenos, and Suffer Not The Heretic
Saint: A Canoness who defeated a Daemon Prince
Homeworld: yet-unnamed Urban Civilized Shrine world, which is the moon of an as-yet-unnamed Feral Arctic Desert world, which is where most training takes place
Influence: Noticeable
Bonus: Rare Weaponry. The sisters have access to a large and varied armory suitable to any enemy.
Beliefs: Penance and Obligation. Alpha version one of their beliefs:

>The sisters of the order believe that they can't die until they've paid the blood debt that they owe to the Emperor (let's say 99 xenos or heretics), and the ones who have paid their debt and are allowed to die are inducted into the Celestians and alternately lead the rank-and-file sisters or participate in the most dangerous missions. Sisters mark their armor with their kill counts, and are known to come to blows after battle over arguments over who gets credit for each confirmed kill.

Order Strength: Endangered
Allies: Specific Imperial Guard Regiment (possibly Hua Yuan)
Culture: 50s-era Red Scare CIA

>>46745573
Metal Gear Solid V is called "The Phantom Pain".

And "Thorn" could sometimes be used to indicate pain. For example, if something is a pain for you, it is a "Thorn at your side".

So Phantom Thorn is a very good reference to Phantom Pain. I'm surprised it was unintentional.

>>46745618
>>46745573
>>46745555

Another vote for Order of the Phantom Thorn. That's a pretty badass name.

>>46745653
Two of the people you quoted is the same person (me), so only count one of those votes for fairness.

>>46745607

Most of the training actually ISN'T on the feral world, it's mostly just there without a purpose at the moment.

>>46745653
I vote for it.

>>46745607
>>46745668
Maybe instead the arctic moon has their primary headquarters and monitoring station? Basically controlling the typical CIA spy satellites.

The cover story is that there's a small shrine or holy site the sisters are guarding up there, while their more public locations and cathedrals would be planetside and more typical.

>>46745653
Far too obvious.

If Order of the Whisper isn't subtle enough for you, hamming it up with Phantom Thorn won't do either.

How's about something completely left field.

Like Order of the Ardent Eagle or something patriotic

>>46745709
Phantom Thorn also relates to their Progenitors.

>>46745668
Land navigation in an urban environment is completely different than land navigation in a wilderness environment. I'd imagine that both planets are used extensively for training.

>>46745743

Fair enough, though there has been a hefty emphasis on the sisters being focused on urban covert ops, but we'll see how things change.

And it seems that the Order of the Phantom Thorn is the name for our small Order.

>>46742789
>>46743282
Order of the Strangled Hymn

>>46745892
>>46745607
Attempte numero dos then.

Name: The Order of the Phantom Thorn
Progenetor: Order of the Bloody Rose
Purpose: Crusade
Flaw: Bad Ecclesiarchal Relations

> we killed an Ecclesiarch who was high up in the sectors chain of command but our order had found out he/she had turned to chaos and was well under way to bringing a large portion of the sector into the hands of chaos

Traits: See But Not Be Seen, Suffer Not The Xenos, and Suffer Not The Heretic
Saint: A Canoness who defeated a Daemon Prince
Homeworld: yet-unnamed Urban Civilized Shrine world, which is the moon of an as-yet-unnamed Feral Arctic Desert world, which is where most training takes place
Influence: Noticeable
Bonus: Rare Weaponry. The sisters have access to a large and varied armory suitable to any enemy.
Beliefs: Penance and Obligation. Alpha version one of their beliefs:

>The sisters of the order believe that they can't die until they've paid the blood debt that they owe to the Emperor (let's say 99 xenos or heretics), and the ones who have paid their debt and are allowed to die are inducted into the Celestians and alternately lead the rank-and-file sisters or participate in the most dangerous missions.

Order Strength: Endangered
Allies: Specific Imperial Guard Regiment (possibly Hua Yuan)
Culture: 50s-era Red Scare CIA

>They're a paranoid lot, convinced of the guilt of themselves and those around them until innocence is proven. They could operate on the fringes of Imperial space, constantly fighting against the creeping threat of liberalism that causes otherwise upstanding Imperial citizens to consider trade and diplomacy with Xenos an acceptable option. They assassinate planetary governors they view as too divergent, deliver weapons to extremist groups of Fraternis Militia, and engineer the rise of leaders who will fall more in line with the Imperium.

>>46745892
Considering the sheer amount of urban sprawl in even non-Hive Worlds, urban covert ops are probably the majority of their missions.

>>46745892
If we're going SOCOM, then that makes them OPT.

>>46742789
>Order of the Gaseous Serpent.

Given the SOCOM/MGS/Red Scare theme mix we have going, what would our colors and outfit theming be?

>>46746203
I see what you did there

>>46746212
Yellow and black, with orange mixed in

>>46746212
Whatever the environment demands, the Phantoms (god I hate that name but whatever) are pragmatic to the extreme.

But off duty? Black.

>>46746233
Ew, what?

>>46746253
For ceremonial purposes and off duty stuff I think their 'parade' armor (for lack of a better term) should be white with Red robes. White for phantoms, Red for rose and therefore thorns.

It also gives them a bright outward face to contrast with their shadow ops.

>>46746212
As operators, our colors would be based on the particular theatre.

Parade colours? Mostly black, with gold fleurs/aquillas and very lightly frosted blues based on the frozen moon, which has a distinct color in the night sky of their primary world.

>>46746290
Nice poetry there Lucas.

>>46746297
I think we should go with this.

Black armour, Gold accents with Cloth/Hair ice blue? Simple enough and not hideous

>>46746265
Gotta get that msf/fox/diamond dogs/foxhound, man

>>46746329
>not hideous
>Ice blue, black, gold
Nice try

>>46746297
>>46746329

Agreed, I'm kinda liking this set-up for colors.

>>46746329
>>46746297
Can't it be something less gross than the blue accents? Otherwise I'm fine

>>46746424
Blue goes better with Silver than it does with Gold, if that's a problem. And this is a blue that is nearly white already.

>>46746424
>>46746471
Burgundy or a dark green would work.

>>46746495
I would much prefer burgundy

For missions, they should paint their armour with camo that suits their surroundings.

For parades and official stuff, what about grey with dull blue trim, and a few lines of red here and there?

>>46746516
>>46746495

Black main/Gold accents with bugundy highlights, or a different color set-up?

>>46746530
Speaking of armor, outside of formal parades and the like, I can't see our Sisters wearing it for the most part.

>>46746109
Nah. Order of the Silent Hymn, or maybe Silent Vow.

Vows of Silence have precedence in modern religious institutions, and perhaps they've taken their vow so seriously that they include the sound of footsteps or gunshots as being too noisy. Or maybe their vow /only/ applies to the field of battle itself. OSV isn't a bad abbreviation, either. "Watch out, the OSV could be around any corner." Crimelords or individuals paranoid about being targets may even make their whores verbalize before entering the room with them, for fear of OSV assassination.

Hymn should be reserved for an order with lots of pipe-organ missile launchers, anyway. I admit that Silent Vow is a bit on the nose, though. I like some aspects of this fluff. While I agree they don't necessarily need to broadcast it with a name, a name that is fear-striking doesn't ever hurt.

>>46746577
They should wear some sort of adapting camoflage suit. Reserve their armour for their SWAT-esque teams.

>>46746577
It really depends on the mission. I'd assume most of the time they're in carapace and camo-cloaks, but when they really need to go high speed, low drag it's power armor.

Further onto names, what about the moon and the Feral World it orbits?

>>46746898
>the moon
Vulpes.

>the world
Canis.

>on colors
Remember that our girls are operators. Can't operate while looking like a coloring book.

>>46747036

As noted, mission colors are dependant on operation. These were more fornparade and general ceremonial livery.

Alright, this'll be my last post for the night before I pass out. Keep on discussing stuff. Depending on where it's at, I'll probably start a new thread for it tomorrow once I'm awake.

>>46746898
Font and Scaena
means Stage and Background in "High Gothic."
I think.

Putting in a vote for something other than black as the main colour, there's way too many of those. Ice blue with dark red and black accents, building off >>46746290 ? It'd be pretty unique; most orders use black, white or red for their mains.

So what's the census on our girls' modus operandi on the field? If they got intel on a group of otherwise quite 'Imperial' xenos sympathisers, what's their move? Infiltrating the group and kidnapping any confirmed sympathisers? Quietly assassinating the lynchpins before slipping back to their orbiting ships? Just moving in and blowing scum right the fuck out?

Are they going to be a Shaolin-style monastery with constant training or a trappist style monestary that produces some sort of wine or cheese?

>>46747393
Probably the second one, if I've been reading the thread correctly. Maybe the first one if the situation called for it.

The last one doesn't fit, since they don't go in guns-blazing, and prefer to ghost it.

>>46747393
Surveillance and investigation. They first see if these heretics could lead them to other heretics. If they think there are more, they kill a few and follow as the rats scatter. If not, the entire group of sympathizers wakes up dead.

>>46747448
I don't think so, closer to Russian gulag at this point

>>46749865
So, when not training the sisters are doing hard labor? I can get behind that, I think it fits the whole spetsnaz badass theme

>>46750591

We actually moved away from the Russian theme due to the Order of the Obsidian Mirror beating us to it.

Feeling writey, gimme some inspiration. Never enough Sisters fluff.

>>46747448
>Monastic wine
Cistercians of Battle? Order of the Sacramental Vintage?
Uses winemaking as a cover for the order's more clandestine activities?

>>46747453
They prefer to ghost it, but will go guns blazing if they feel like its the best option.

>>46750784
A team of sisters observing a high society gala. They know at least one participant has aligned themselves with the Tau and they can't just bomb the room and call it a day because they can't risk destabilizing local government and opening it up to further Tau influence.

If they have Sororitas allies, then they must hail from the Dialogus and Famulous orders, as informants.

>>46750784
>>46751959
Here you go:

http://pastebin.com/bkyJB8bj

Read, and I like it.

I like the idea of the Sisters wearing masks to hide who they are when on a mission.

So this is looking like end of thread. Should I start a new one in hopes of continued discussion, or let these girls go?

I like them. I'd say a new thread, and if nothing comes of it then it's done.

>>46756937
Wait for bump limit nigga

>>46757883
>>46758492

>>46760020
Alright, makes senss

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So something like this? Or are we talking more shadowy, like straight hollywood black-ops deniable theme?

>>46762584

More shadowy, generally. Stay low, stay quiet, leave them dead in their bed, etc. Being dangerously understrength puts an emphasis on being out in the open as little as possible.

>>46762745
Alright, I'll see if I can prepare some pictures next thread if there is one.

>>46755524
I didn't mean to imply that she's wearing a mask in the typical sense, I mean that she's wearing some sort of baklava or gas mask.

>>46764051
Balaclava even.

>>46764051

I figured, still, it's something we might toy around with. There's still a lot that we haven't worked out yet, after all.

>>46764283
Actual masks seems a little "special for the sake of being special."

>>46764482

Possibly, though with so little actual fluff about the order currently, it's hard to decide on things.

>>46765022
Ladies, our target is Henrich Ostaneous, head of the Pan-Achol Chartist Trading Concern. Ten years ago the Concern was awarded exploration and salvage rights to the space hulk Tenebrae Erant, Ostaneous was present on the hulk when the dormant genestealer infestation awoke and was one of the few survivors. While determined free of the genestealer taint, a long-term analysis of his actions by our Famulous associates reveal a restructuring of his personal household that all but indicates the presence of an active Genestealer Cult. We have come to the conclusion that Ostaneous successfully captured a genestealer and imprisoned it at his estate in an attempt to breed them for economic exploitation. Regardless of his intentions, we believe that Ostaneous has fallen victim to the psychic compulsion of the genestealer.

The gala he will be hosting to celebrate the Feast of St. Pippus is little more than an attempt to gather as many planetary dignitaries and officials in one location that he might spread the infection and cement the cult's control over the government. We have isolated four buildings within the Ostaneous compound that we suspect are being used to house the genestealer and the first generation hybrids. Four teams of four will be deployed by jump pack to breach the buildings and eliminate the Tyranid presence within. Simultaneously, Famulous agents will disrupt communication and coordination within the compound and eliminate suspected infectees. To provide cover, we have reached out and secured the cooperation of the Astra Telepathica for a joint mission. Agents of the Covenant Panoptica will instigate a riot at the outskirts of the compound; once redeployment of security forces has been verified you will begin your infiltration. Any questions?

>>46766455

Nice and professional, just the way to operate.

Alright folks, I'm out for the night. Keep discussing and figuring stuff out and we might even hit bump limit.

Dunno what name you arrived at, but with all the secret operator stuff and having the bloody rose as parent order, something referreing to sub rosa would make tons of sense. As it means "under the rose" which denotes secrecy. Source, having been a chucklefuck conscript in the military Intelligence battalion.

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>>46767936
Do we have a logo or a motto? After 10 seconds of thinking about it, i thought of "Under the Bloody Rose" to refer to ancestral roots and task at hand. Being the secret knife drawn originally from the Order of the Bloody Rose to deal stealthy blows to heresy and shit.
>under the rose = secret
>blood rose = roots
>silver = finding shit out
>silver = evil things often don't like it
>knife = sneaky kills

Folded a million hours in paint, cuts through heresy like warm butter.

>>46768046
We could use 'whisper' in some way? When I saw it suggested as part of a name earlier I imagined the list of related suggestions as a chant; "The Ardent whisper, the Eternal whisper, the Unheard whisper," etc.

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>>46746297
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>>46746471
>>46769286

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>>46747367
>>46769295

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>>46746290
>>46769317

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>>46746530
>>46769331

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>>46769352

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>>46769374
>>46746495
>>46746516
We BlackZarak now?

>>46769390
I think that's all of the suggestions?
My preference would be:
1) >>46769286
2) >>46769374
3) >>46769317
4) >>46769352
5) >>46769390
6) >>46769295
7) >>46769331

>>46769405
I prefer:
>>46769295
>>46769352
>>46769374
>>46769390
in no particular order.

>>46769317 looks surprisingly nice, but something I can't quite put my finger on throws it off to me, I think it's the eyeplate.

>>46769331
>>46769352
>>46769390
These three all the way

>>46769405
I'm not hugely opposed to any of them except 4 (too close to Sacred Rose) or 7 (too close to Our Martyred Lady). I think the ice blue and forest green are distinctive, especially in combination with the gold, but I'm coming around to 5 - it's got an understated, Spetznas/SOCOM-y feel while still being recognisable amongst other Orders.
Hmm. Now I'm wondering about 4 with camo green cloth?

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>>46770202
Maybe? I feel like it loses some of the subtlety the other had.
Got a version that replaces the blue with green, but I like that one even less.

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>>46770280

>>46769295
>>46769352
I like these two the best

>>46769352
Looks like this one's the winner

>>46771267
Sounds good.
Trying to work out something subtle to mark out commanders; maybe just white shoulders or something?

>>46772220
Maybe a white mask on the helmet?

>>46769352

I'm in agreement , this definitely feels the best. As for the commanders, I'm leaning more towards the white shoulder.

>>46773194
White shoulder or white cloth part.

I'm assuming they don't run repentia, being understrength, but there needs to be something in the way of punishment for transgressions.

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>>46772220
>>46773194
>>46773524
White cloth altered the look too much; it didn't feel like part of the same army any more.
Just the white shoulder didn't feel distinct enough, so I changed the symbol on the shoulder to black, too.

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>>46773653
And for both shoulders.

>>46773653
>>46773671
(I just realised that for some reason the faces on these are a lot lighter than they should be so, uh, ignore that.

>>46773653
>>46773671
High ranks get both shoulders, lower ranks get single shoulder.

>>46773524
Hmm..pentinent engines are the only main alternative in that area, though that's usually even more severe.

Part of the idea I was playing with is that they push themselves much harder to suceed in their missions and take failure much more seriously than most Orders. While they aren't the sort to punish failure with death due to how low the numbers are, every screw-up hurts that much more because of how much they feel they need to prove themselves to be worthy of the Big E again.

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>>46773671
>>46773653
>>46769352
Something about this jars with me, just the combination of a light grey overlain by a slightly darker grey, with blue accents and random red accents right in the middle of it. I don't know where to look.
Maybe something like this, swapping the hands to blue and/or the shoulder insets to white to denote commanders?

>>46774722
I like it, but it loses a lot of the appeal of the other one to me - that being the relatively low colour contrast. The "grey on grey" was pretty much meant to be one shade of grey, tweaked so the mockup would look a bit nicer. It's a good colour scheme, but without the personality of the other I'd probably choose something else.

>>46775309
>>46774722

I agree on this. It's good, but I still prefer #5 more, though I do agree about the red accents in the center. The lack of red anywhere else makes it seem rather out-of-place.

>>46754851
Is pouring wine gonna be a calling card? Is TC down with the Abbey/Vineyard thing?

>>46775852
Maybe red trim on the backpack would help balance it out? Don't want it to get too busy, though.

>>46775906
No, a calling card would go against the mentality of what we've built so far.

Bump limit!

>>46775906
Completely down with wine as a calling card, and not just poured. Bottles and such, maybe a single filled glass, etc.

And bump limit hit, so new thread soon.

New thread >>46776667