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>>74494072
>Wiki
https://gloriaetalia.fandom.com/wiki/

>Everyone please try to get back into the habit of posting your lore to the wiki. If anyone is having any trouble, here is the help page for posting https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Contents. Just ask if you cant figure it out.


>Archive of Previous Threads
> Thread 1 - 8
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/73993406/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/74079412/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/74150461/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/74211056/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7424721
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/74284894
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/74321167
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/74378026/
> Thread 9
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/74406128/
> Thread 10
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/74440536/
> Thread 11
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/74466108/

>>74494072
>Does Westerasi have the olympics? Are other nations invited to play? Who is excluded?
I made reference to an "Annual Westrasi Sea Grand Tourney" in one of the Vashian Republic Recent Events. I imagine it works a bit like the Olympics.

>>74494072
>Which two nations hate each other the most?
Probably Belara and Morloux

>What is one sentence of new lore for a nation?
I got nothing for this one

>Does Westerasi have the olympics? Are other nations invited to play? Who is excluded?
Sure, why not? It's more medieval activities than the modern Olympics, including things like jousting and a melee pit. But it also has foot runners, the javelin event, things like that. Everyone can come, except for the tribal states.

>You are about to enter a gygaxian dungeon by yourself with basic equipment. You can pick one person from any nation to go with you. Who do you pick and why?
I bring a lichlord from the necroswampers, because he can do dope magic.

>>74494341
I suport this if it's Westrasi -Sea Tourney- instead of Westrasi Sea -Tourney-. Mock ship battles between Westrasi nations, roman style

>Which two nations hate each other the most?
Saramese and Bertranox maybe.
>What is one sentence of new lore for a nation?
Araxian man have a reputation for having huge testicles. It's a running joke across the Westrasi sea. Reality is sadly that they are boringly average to Westrasi ethinicity
Does Westerasi have the olympics? Are other nations invited to play? Who is excluded?
If Bertranox shows up, Saramese don't participate. They refuse to recognize them as country
You are about to enter a gygaxian dungeon by yourself with basic equipment. You can pick one person from any nation to go with you. Who do you pick and why?
Ruskata Ice Witch.

Great OP. Chill Vampire MVP

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Finished beastmen subraces. Replaced wolf men with monkey men.

>>74494072
Whoops, didn't see there was a new thread when I posted this bit of lore.
>>74495470

>>74494072
Which of these nation's is most like Brazil?

>>74495512
Reposting so it doesn't get lost becuase that comment wasn't archived. Looks great anon! I'm currently writing up the Araxian Kingdom properly, and this is a great addition.

>Araxian Touring Bull
A yearly festival where each province/locality of Araxia sends a highly decorated Running Bull and rider, to ride as a procession and visit every province in Araxia. Each year a different border province gets chosen to be the starting point of the procession, and the destination is always the capital, where the bulls are presented to the royal family. The Touring Bull festival is a chance for a province to promote business with other provinces, and maybe even other nations, for delegates and diplomats are traditionally invited to watch the procession.
The festival used to be common among Araxia's neighbors as well, but over time one by one dropped it for their own reasons.

>>74495649
None of them I don't think. DESU, I don't know much about the country except the monkeys are bastards and there is a lot of people living there.

>>74495720
Plenty of impoverished people living next to highly endemic species. Crowded infrastructure, plenty of people per meters squared compared to most countries. Lots and lots of corrugated metal for roofs and a lot of old machinery is jury rigged to work. A lot like most third world's.

>>74494072
>Does Westerasi have the olympics? Are other nations invited to play? Who is excluded?
The Olympics requires a lot of international cooperation which probably doesn't exist at this point. Even in the Westrasi Sea region, half of the games would end up cancelled due to the participant nations warring with each other.

I've been working on the Araxian Kingdom and giving them a proper nation, and it has been going wonderfully. The lore just keeps spilling out. I'm not done yet and it's late but I want to bump the thread, so here is a snippit that I put in the Leixi-Airoxian Commonwealth's dip section.

"They have a tentative trading relationship with the Araxian Kingdom. Offers for a military alliance has been presented by the Araxians, but have been declined as it would be exploited to fuel the Araxian's barbaric love for violence and conquest."

>>74495793
Hmm, IDK. It's the middle ages so there is a very low population density. The last part about the machinery could be the Tecnobarbarians. I think that the most crowded part of the world is the Free City of Bretanox, so maybe them?

>>74494072
>Which two nations hate each other the most?
I'd think every nation bordering yorosolovan would hate it
>What is one sentence of new lore for a nation?
Beastmen make for poor housepets.
>Does Westerasi have the olympics? Are other nations invited to play? Who is excluded?
They do, many western nations participate, non-humans do not participate.
>You are about to enter a gygaxian dungeon by yourself with basic equipment. You can pick one person from any nation to go with you. Who do you pick and why?
T'lc-Kha merc because they're insanely loyal, durable and presumably can climb shit. Most powerful entities are going to betray, eat or enslave you.

bumb-u

Wiki link is important it needs to be in the OP

>>74495649
Treant vasals are kinda brazilian natives

>>74494072
>Which two nations hate each other the most?
Probably Ecinev and Treants
>What is one sentence of new lore for a nation?
In belara etiquette demands nobles to have atleast one glow at all times, so to be always ready to challenge other noble to honor duel, in case of disrespect. Challenge is given by hitting rival in the face with glove(one they had on hand).
>Does Westerasi have the olympics? Are other nations invited to play? Who is excluded?
I think its less of olimpics and more of local turnaments that are mostly kingdom wide, not international.
>You are about to enter a gygaxian dungeon by yourself with basic equipment. You can pick one person from any nation to go with you. Who do you pick and why?
One Grave Saint from Radmir. Sentient undead that has centuries of training, superhuman strength and endurance, and weapons so devastating that they are to heavy to use by most mortals, all clad in plate armor so bulky its almost power armor... Yeah that would do, if not him id go with one of liches.

>>74499661
>A Belaran Noble is infuriated by another Belaran Noble and whips out his dueling glove
>The other Noble has fast reflexes and reflexively slaps the first Noble's dueling glove with his own
>What's the ruling for this incident?

>>74499972
A duel was called either way, but the one who glove-slap first is the challenger and get to call the terms.

>>74499972
That would be surely seen like faux pas, and grave insult, one that possibly could start bloody vandetta.
Not only did you prohibited your oponent from challenging you, but also ridiculed him by defating him even in such a simple act.
But duel would surely still happen, as >>74500036 sugested.

Which Westrasi sea country has best girls? Which is has the worse girls?

>>74500154
>Best girls
Uraka
>Worse girls
Hard to say, but maybe Voroi tribe girls cause they likely don't shave and wash?

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>>74494072
Continuation of creation of Necroswamper Lich Lords.
If you want create one on your own just pick their sphere of influence, and describe their lore in few (or more - no one stops you) sentences.
If You want to join, but can't find lore about necroswampers its all on wiki:
https://gloriaetalia.fandom.com/wiki/Necroswampers

>>74500686
>Balthazar the Enlightened
This lichlord even during his life was one of most briliant Alchemists in Republic of Morloux, and maybe even on whole planet. He was first to recreate (albeit in inperfect state) material making up armor of stone giants, and that alone made him famous. But as he grew older he wanted to focus on ways to extend his life, but because of militarization of Alchemists in Republic, he was forced to search knowlege abroad.
He crossed ocean searching for knowlege, and traveled everywhere from Qu-Fi throught Radmir to Ecilev, and it was there when he learned of Dead Alchemy Society. This illlegal organization was made up of greatest minds in all of Midlans, Eastasia, Rams Head, and was recruiting as far as celestial empire. He joined it, at first disqusted at thought of working with undead, but due to his death coming closer, he accepted their company, and quickly rose throught alchemist side of organization. When he was offered seat in the councill as Royal Alchemist he declined, deciding to instead focus on learning dark arts. After centuries of training he was offered seat on the council, but not only as representative of one of two organizations within, but as head of council. He agreed, understanding that accepting this would allow him to become lich, and stop worring about immortality.
Since then he menaged to bring stability to society, at the cost of his own personal achievements. Politicking bores him more and more, but he knows he can't just return to times before he became head of organization.

I already posted this on wiki, also, on wiki there was Sandro picture with wrong name, i fixed and put it back near him

>>74501007
>Dead Alchemy Society
Secret organization uniting powerfull dark mages and alchemists. Its separated into two sides: Kings Alchemists, and Queens Mages, best of both parties form council of 13 members, counting Lich Lord thats role is to unite them in goals. Symbol of Dead Alchemy Society is two stright lines going vertically throught circle, and it represents alchemic reaction needed to create simplest poisons

So we can't have people flinging fireballs because that would be making magic too banal but we have a whole nation of megaliches and another with superhuman undead?

>>74501049
We dropped magic being not banal long ago.
Also those superhuman undead are more of secret weapon, and there is like few of them created since fourth age.

>>74501049
Setting is mostly magic agnostic with exception of ritual magic, so it can be adapted to most rpg rule sets.

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>>74502378
It's pretty neat my anon.

Where is Rzeka River?

>>74501089
>>74501116
I'd say it depends on what system you're playing with, in game we could say magic come and go as a cycle like in Shadowrun and can surge out more in certain areas

>>74502518
Yeah, its stated in World Scar lore that it's the most magically active area in the world.

Maybe the Necroswampers is 2nd? That's why shit like Litches can exist there and even grand mages from Westerasi go there to become a litch.

Might make a map of "conzentration of magic" tomorrow.

>>74502586
Might add ley-lines and shit too.

>>74502400
paint it over the map with MS paint and I'll add it later

>>74502606
>>74502606
Well if thats not problem i might and try to create that map in next hour, because i also thought about ley lines.

>>74502378
Looks great, thanks!

>>74502606
>>74502586
Ley-lines would be sweet.

new to the setting, what are the lewd elements already included?

>>74502643
No problem

>>74502672
Snow Elves are for lewding

>>74502672
Most drawfags on this site make living thought porn. But beyond that there aren't really lewd elements.
Also this anon here is right
>>74502706

>>74502672
Urakese are low key wholesome and down to snuggle

bump

>>74502672
5+ types of amazon
dryads
naga orgy pit
troll shape shifters
snow elf bikini inuit
mermaids
waifu queens

>>74494072
>Needs More Lore Edition
I have read nothing else about this setting and I'm here to help: One of nations on that map now has talking snakes as a form of wildlife. My job here is done, you're welcome, no need to credit me when you publish.

>>74504368
> Not mentioning the Maag Amazons

>>74504481
>5+ types of amazon
>not mentioning amazon

>>74504368
that's too many types of lewds, is this setting a fetish fest?

>>74504368

>waifu queens
Where?

>mermaids
they dress and act like nuns

>naga orgy pit
I'm sorry what? How did I miss this?

>>74504430
Sounds cool. Do you want to make them a species?

>>74504871
>waifu queens
Ruskata

>>74504862
Nope

>>74504871
I'm not sure what you mean specifically by species in this context. Looking at the setting premise is this a differentiation between a natural pre-apocalypse creature and some kind of monster that evolved during the shit hitting the fan period?

>>74504997
It's left vague what is a magical creature, what is GMO, what is natural and what came from radiation mutation.

People IC would not know afterall.

>>74504862
No. Out of that entire list the only thing that have been perved up are the snow elf's, and even then only because they got a lot of drawings done of them. Their actual lore isn't lude at all.

>>74504896
>khanate diplomat refers to the Ruskatan queen with the Qi-Fu term waifu
>Ruskatan diplomat hears this, punches him, and throws him out
>Is personally praised by the queen for uplifting her honor

>>74504997
I mean just make them a creature. The setting itself is more middle ages with some broken down advanced tech in some places. We already have some species created, here is a list if you want to see what else is out there:

https://gloriaetalia.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Fauna_and_Flora.

>>74505052
Good point. I saw a place called Windhell Valley, which I am going to presume is very windy. I'd like it if the snakes could compress their bodies down a little to make themselves better able to ride on wind currents. I once saw a Youtube video of a snake slithering around on an air current low key gliding like this and it was fucking terrifying. I also think it would be neat if they used their ability of speech to lure in victims. You hear someone faintly calling for help over the wind and it just turns out to be a fucking snake.

>>74505228
We have those already

>>74505334
Well shit. Thanks for listening to my TED talk about spooky snakes anyway.

>>74505370
You could make them as a subspecies maybe?

>>74505091
>Qi-Fu
>Waifu
>Wai Fu
The plot thickens

>>74505462
I don't want to shoehorn in on someone else's critter. Especially if they've already hit most of the points I was going to. Might just go back to the original premise and spin them off in a different region.

Since the flying asshole snake thing is already covered, maybe make them almost obnoxiously friendly and curious. Just slither up on some poor guy working a field or trying to read a book under a tree and start peppering them with questions. Don't make them too smart, maybe the intelligence of an eight year old or something so they're still animalistic. Is there a region where something with these characteristics would fit in?

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>>74502660
>>74502606
Here is how i more or less imagine leyline and magic setup on the world. Each leyline system has center, those centers are:
Greater Mollusks, Wyrd, Meteorite crash site, and World Scar
I used colors to make ley systems more vissible, but maybe depending on source magic has some different properities?

>>74505796
>Celestial basically on a magically dead zone
so sad

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>>74505796
And hers how leylines look when you put them on political map (i tried to avoid celestials, considering they are probably lowest place when it comes to magic)
If should i change it: just say what. And if its all bad idea i can scrap it, no hard feelings.

>>74505819
Yeah, celestials and technobarbarians get it worst, but hey, atleast they try to make it up with tech.
I'd also sugest it lack of leyline shouldn't mean totaly antimagic field, but it should be just harder to get, and the further - the harded.

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>>74505847
Huh...Araxians with their bullheaded and "unga bunga melee stronk" ways actually have a leyline right above them. Interesting.

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>>74506123
Fighting Bull Magic?

Guy who did the beastmen and lizardfolk here. Marshes of Drache still needs an entry for goblins and ogres. I know ogres don't really have a race entry and I've read the entry for goblins. Is there anything else I should know about either races before trying to make entries for them in the Marshes of Drache page? I can also back off if someone else wants a go.

>>74506149
In last thread i listed what we know about ogres. Il search it and post here again in a bit

>>74505796
The Treant Empire, Sisilian Citystates and some others have a lot of nature/fey type magic, should probably be included as a different color with a source in the Treant Empire, particularly if we are treating the different colors as different types of magic.

A lot of weird stuff happens in Tautoburg, probably should be one or more leylines from the wyrd passing through there.

Helspont could possibly be another source, also where ever the naga came from

>>74506149
I think it would be bet if I'l just link whole conversation:
>>74468510
>>74469013
>>74469201
>>74469248
>>74469396

>>74506204
I will look into it

>>74506275
would be best*

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>>74506204
How about that?

>>74505847
I personally think it's a great idea. thanks for making this! Like >>74505951 suggested, magic should just be harder when it is not around a leyline. Maybe magic shit just happens around these areas, and rituals work better when close to a leyline. I now know one of the ways the duchy stays dark now for sure.

>>74505561
Honestly, anywhere in the south.The Rams head would be your best bet I think.

>>74506123
Huh. I'm working on the Araxian's right now, and I have made them 0% magically inclined. It could be usful in explaining a few things, like the dryad population and that the bulls can run fast for a long time. They are magic bulls. Also, I'm stealing those Images for Auraxia.

>>74506563
looks good to me

>>74506746
>Honestly, anywhere in the south.The Rams head would be your best bet I think.
Sounds like a plan. I'm going to sleep but I'll come back and work on this tomorrow. Kind of amusing that I'd intended this as a dumb drive-by joke but I'm invested now.

>>74505561
Its fine. Like I came up with "Shadow dolphins" as a one of species and said people rode them.

Someone else came up with Alhluts as land whales people domesticated.

so then another person tied them all together as part of a wider group of walking cetaceans.

Same idea here winchell valley can have several types of sky snakes.

>>74506563
Note there used to be an eastern Mollusc reef in the Eatralia-Northedge gulf before it was killed off by human overfishing and population growth.

So there would be like a "peak magic" Tyler issue on that region as magic died off in that area as compared to the past.

>>74506746
Original Araxia anon here...Go for it man, just ask that you keep their love for heavy weapons and heavy armor. My original view of araxian was this brutish guys who, while dressed like knights, preferred to fight as shock infantry

>>74506563
Looks good.

Any chance you could nudge that one red line a bit east so it passes through the Sisilian Citystates and Tautoburg?

In terms of types of magic, I am thinking red/purple is wild/nature/fey themed, black is dark, yellow is wild/shamanistic, and blue is fey/weird/metaphysics bending, though in actual fact, magic also varies a lot based on different schools of practice and cultural traditions regardless of where it is taken from.

>>74505561
Maybe the Storm Islands?

>>74506563
Fancy. We can now maybe try assigning properties to the magic of each line:
> Meteorite
Dark magic and Necromancy
> World Scar
Ilusion and Fire
> Treat Empire
Druidism

^^^^^
What I propose, for now.

>>74507103
Yep, this.

>>74504862
>waifu queens
>Where?
Judging by the images, Belara, Celestial Empire, Kingdom of Ivory, Ruskata, and Vashian Republic are all led by attractive women, though one could argue they are just in-universe stylized paintings.

>mermaids
>they dress and act like nuns
Kind of dumb since they live in water. At some point I will make a page tying together all the different merfolk concepts that have been thrown around but not acted upon.

>naga orgy pit
>I'm sorry what? How did I miss this?
It was in the thread 10 naga lore dump

>>74504862
Considering there are like 80+ unique cultures outlined in this setting (well over 200 pages of content), there isn't really that much lewd in it in relation to other stuff

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The Rex Hybrid Wyvern. A rare wyvern bred from a Rex (Gold land) and Parrot Wyvern. This magical hybrid is a rarity in the world, but comes up in Armies of rich Westerasi Noble Les.

A terrifying yet beautiful beast.

>>74507700
I vote for striking orgy pits off the canon

>>74507700
So we have a full on lore dump of the Naga but no race page for them?

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>>74507632
>>74507395
Maybe each time lines converge new kinds of magic are born, while orginal "theme" gets more and more urecognizable. Places where more than two lines converge should be prized by mages worldwide (if ofcourse they find them, becasue some places of such power are hidden like yugr).
It would allow for greater frexibility when adopting this world to different systems of casting/magic.
Also i fixed one of bluelines to go throught sitans and tautoburg, changing red ones would need too much work, and probably demand redoing the map.

>>74507745
Most anons ignore posting on wiki, and just dump it here.

>>74507745
the common courtesy is updating your own lore to the wiki, you don't have to, but if you don't do it, and nobody else does it, you only have yourself to blame. People who upload other's stuff to the wiki are the true MVP, but they can't do it all.

Nvm they have a race page it's just not linked to the main page.

>>74507340
I'll make sure to add that. I believe I kept all of their origional traits, and just added on to it. I'll make sure that they favor shock troops as well. It fits in wonderfully.

>>74507632
I'm not to sure for this. I think they should be more vauge personally if we are going to assign flavors to it. Like calling the world scar one "world magic", and the treant empire one "earth magic" or something like that.

>>74507745
Anons need to add their lore to the wiki. I know that I'll have to go in and find all of the fighting styles that were bult up, and most likly have to do the same for the ley lines. Ugh.

>>74507721
It has a tail like a moth. It's not a criticism, I just wanted to point it out.

>>74507805
Added the page link on the front page.

I noticed in the Hobgoblin wiki entry it says that they fled but doesn't say where. Are they nomadic? Is that the extent of their lore?

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Cannibal Warrior

>>74508523
no

>>74508498
They fled to the Thoughtcrafters Commune.

Might need a hyperlink to it.

>>74508498
I think they were fluffed as Japs too.

GIGANTIC OGRE LORE DROP

General
Ogres are one of the many races that inhabit the Marshes of Drache. Ogres stand between 8' to 10' feet tall. They span from many shades of green, with the occasional ashen black and gray. Ogres live to 120, the oldest one living up to 140. They have large underbites with large canines that stick out of the mouth, pointed ears and a boar's snout. All ogres have a strongman's physique, bar their large pot belly.
From their appearance many would think that Ogres are related to goblins, hob goblins or trolls. However the smartest and wisest of ogres would detest that notion, believing that the origin of ogres came from The World Scar.
In combat Ogres use their strength, bites and clubs to overpower an enemy. They have thick skin that reduces the penetrative force of blades and arrows, paired with a minor regenerative ability, although nowhere near as strong as trolls. On top of all that, ogres have an affinity for magic.
Ogres can absorb the magical essence of the things they eat, and their nose can smell out and breathe in magic, leading them to places wherever the magic is thickest. Ogres store magic in their bellies, their bellies harden more as they continue to absorb magic. Their magic comes out in a variety of manners, depending on the type of magic they have absorbed.
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>>74507632
I'd go with something a little more vague than that, otherwise we'd need to introduce cases of each specific school of magic across each sort of line. Maybe...

>Black
Permanence. This sort of magic revolves around preservation no matter the cost, maintaining the 'cohesion' of its subject until the end of time. Typically this means necromancy, but there are other possibilities. Consider the eternal storm of the Windhell Valley, which is right over one of these lines.
>Purple
Growth. This magic is a force of creation and multiplication. It can create something from nothing, and it can create many from one. In the case of the druidism of the treants, it's used for proliferating flora, though this sort of magic could also be used to conjure objects or entities.
>Yellow
Destruction. Though the World Scar is an example of how destruction can end in oblivion, this isn't always the case. Consider the mountains that the lines of destruction run across, which could have their roots in the same cataclysm that caused the World Scar. Destruction can be another word for transformation, albeit a violent kind.
>Blue
Change. The Wyrdlands are an example of this, as even time itself isn't stable in that region. This type of magic is not about the transformation of something from one state to another, but rather a lack of stability. Under the influence of change, mind and matter alike become fluid and chaotic.
>Red
Structure. This magic builds on top of the foundation that already exists. The tireless labor of the mollusks transformed the world's devastated environment into something clean, that could allow life to flourish. The foul weather of the Storm Islands were woven into a powerful barrier. The magic of structure takes something that already exists and not only controls it, but improves it.

It's a little bit nebulous but considering we're aiming for system-neutrality, that might be for the best.

>>74508674
Subraces
Ogres that absorb an abundance of one type of magic permanently change their form and mental wiring, as well as increasing their affinity towards that type of magic.
Necrotic Ogres
Necrotic ogres are ogres that have absorbed a great deal of dark magic, reminiscent of the Necroswampers. These ogres become pitch black and grow a crown of horns around their head. The touch of these ogres are feared as they can flay skin and flesh away from bone. Necrotic ogres are the most populous subrace of ogres in the Marshes of Drache.
The clubs of these ogres are all made from bone. It need not be a large bone, as necrotic ogres are capable of using their magic to make bones grow, skrink and take new shapes. Each club is a personalized work of art to the ogre, as they reform these clubs to suit their needs.
Arcane Ogres
Arcane ogres are ogres that have absorbed the magic that pours out of The World Scar. They are commonly found closer to the mountains that surround the Marshes of Drache, some make pilgrimage to The World Scar. These Ogres are the smartest and wisest of all ogres, as the magic they absorbed came with knowledge. Arcane ogres have stony gray skin and have eyes that glow a variety of different colors. They can shoot beams of raw magic that can tear holes through flesh and bone. Their clubs grow to the length of staves and can cast simple spells through them.
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>>74508692
Fey Ogres
Fey ogres are the rarest kinds of ogres. They live closest to the Vassal Kingdoms of Treants, but stay within the Marshes of Drache. The skin of these ogres vary from vibrant greens to yellows and reds, reflecting the colors of leaves in and out of season. Fey Ogres also have what can be described as bark growing on their skin, and occasionally have living vines or orchids live on them. Their fey magic allows them to impose their will on the nature surrounding them. Grass knots and roots somehow find their way to the feet of their enemies, and any non sapient animal comes to their aid.
Baseline Ogres
Magic of baseline ogres are manifested on places where they strike. Dark magic can cause metals to rust, wood to decay and flesh to rot. Arcane magic either causes pure magic blasts or their strikes are augmented by a random element (most of the time it's fire). Fey magic releases spores or poison that can cause an array of debilitating health problems.
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>>74508709
Society
Ogres tend to be solitary, aside when mating where they use calls to locate each other. Arcane ogres are the exception, seeking out each other to pursue intellectual discoveries, philosophical debates and magical experimentation. Arcane ogres are also the only ones who try to record their accumulated knowledge and history to relay it to any who is willing to listen. Still none of them build homes, many taking refuge in caves or any place that can shelter them. All ogres still hunt and harvest fruits wherever they can.

History
The recorded history of the Ogres is heavily biased and lacks any real evidence to support their claims.
>be ogre
>born from world scar
>magically gifted as all ogres are
>travel east to midland
>create empire
>empire brought all the races together
>empire is always led by ogre
>other empires jealous, their empire worse than ours
>ogre empire best empire so jealousy is expected
>other empires create unrest using other races in midland
>ogres don't catch this as ogres too busy being great
>ourhubrisisourfolly.manuscript
>empire collapses
>ogres scattered throughout midland
>ogres lose their magic powers
>have to resort to absorbing magic
>mfw pic related
>this leads to modern ogres

Religion
Arcane ogres have popularised a religion of praying to their ancestors for greater magical aptitude. The mythos ties to their history as pre-fall ogres are considered to be incredibly magically gifted, and ritualistic prayers allow them to attain a small portion of power. Again as this religion has ties to the heavily biased recorded history of ogres so who knows if their prayers are actually reaching to an ancestor or another deity.
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>>74508677
That works

>>74508677
I like this very much.

>>74508677
Actually, looking at it, I'd probably reword Structure as Control instead, in order to avoid too much overlap with the others.

>>74508709
Small note here. Fey in this setting are mutated elves Born when the crystal spire impacted on the world.

The Crones the Ruskata worship may be Fey. Druidic Fey might be a better therm.

>>74508890
*Druidic Ogre
or Druid Ogres

>>74508890
>>74508908
I'll replace the term Fey with Druidic

>>74508674
>>74508724
What about Ogres outside of Drache, ones from lands of Mai-Xi, where they created civilized society?
>>74508692
>>74508709
If we all agre on this anons >>74508677 interpretation of magic souces then those kinds of ogre subraces should be changed up to reflect that. And even if we stay with that, magic blasts and what not is kinda on too over the top as for race.

All in all i like how in ogre eyes Drache empire was not only founded by ogres (while rest of the world thinks it was humans) but also its downfall wasn't undead but juts other races plotting. Thats some fantastic we wuzing, and i love it.

>>74508890
Weren't fey just driads, and other creations of Treants?

>>74507340

>several hours of time
>6 pages on a google doc
>14,400 charathers
>Who is ready for some LORE!

Nation
The Kingdom of Araxia is a feudal monarchy. The population ethnicity mix is 89% Araxian Westrasi, 7% Yoroi Westrai, 3% Sarcian Westrasi, .5% Dryad, and .5% Goblin.

The kingdom is broken down into four duchies, which is broken down again into counties. The four duchies are the Crownland, Burksland, Geffenshire, and Dunsland. The Crownland is controlled by the King personally, and covers most of the shoreline and the river Tarkos. The capitol is located on the river, and is called Bullsworth. Burksland is controlled by the king’s cousin Ikarna Ribbsworth, a belligerent and brash woman who was gifted the province after the previous Duke, Yerki Hert, was found embezzling the king’s taxes for his own personal gain. Burksland covers the rest of the river and most of the region bordering the Sarcian Mountain Tribes. Geffenshire is controlled by the House of Jaspire, and covers the southern border of the kingdom. Burksland is controlled by the House of Burken, and covers the northern border against the Leixi-Airoxian Commonwealth.

>You think I know when this ends thats funny

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>>74509024

The current king is Alfred III Ribbsworth, who ascended the throne in the year 4982 after his uncle stepped down from regency when he turned 16. He is currently 38 years old, has a wife and three children. While Alfred is a kind man, he is very prideful and a poor diplomat. He has a slight speech impediment, but anyone who comments on it within earshot of the king often gets decked. He is short at 5’4’’ and stocky, with short brown hair, green eyes and a tough complexion. His queen, Elika Ribbsworth is 30 years old and is a Euraxian Princess, who married the king to cement a lucrative trade deal to potentially curb the Farisian’s near monopoly on the eastern side of the Weatrasi Sea. While not particularly prideful or brave, she is a clever diplomat and often handles the sensitive political situations that the nation faces. She is tall at 5’11’’ for a westrasian, with braided blonde hair, blue eyes, and a warming complexion. Their first born son is Herb III Ribbsworth, 15, and is seen as a disappointment to the royal crown. Instead of enjoying the finer things in life like bull riding, fighting, or even strategizing, he instead prefers to dress up in the most pompous clothes and travel around with the various theatre troupes that plague the countryside. While this behavior was attempted to be beaten out of him at a young age, the royal family has all but given up trying to make him into a proper man. While technically the crown prince, he has abdicated from rule in all but name, and that the crown will go to his younger brother on Alfred’s death. He has an average height at 5’6’’, with long blond hair, blue eyes, and a fair complexion. The younger children are the twins Giri VI and Pual Ribbsworth, and are 13. They are both prideful and headstrong, and constantly fight with each other and others for fun.

>>74509045
While they are not the best bull riders just yet, the royal family is eager to get them in the saddle and learning. Giri is tall at 5’9’’, has short brown hair, and green eyes. Paul is shorter than Giri at 5’7’’, and has short brown hair with blue eyes. The king’s uncle Robert Ribbsworth is a statesman and a politician, who currently manages the funds from the crownlands. He believes that only with vast wealth will the Araxians be able to defeat their rivals the Farisians, and has spent most of his life working towards this goal. He even was the one to propose the marriage of the king and queen for an economic alliance instead of a military one. He is of an average height at 5’5’’, with black hair and green eyes, and a weathered face.

Because of a tragic training accident, the royal navy is by far the worst one on the Westerasi sea. It is made up of unretired, decrepit ships and repurposed merchant vessels.

Culture
Through the constant raids and skirmishes along the borders of the Yoroi Tribelands and the Sarcian Mountain Tribes, much of the Arixian political and social culture is centered around violence and militaristic thinking. Araxians are very prideful, and insults will often be met with rageful violence. Among the peasantry brawls are common and standing down from a challenge, no matter how small, is seen as very disgraceful.

Much of the culture of Araxia is based off of the Araxian Running Cow(citation needed). The most common use for these animals is for riding, as the bulls can run as nearly as fast as a horse. They have long, thick curved horns that go over and in front of their faces, which the bulls use to ram into their opponents after charging them. Owning a bull is seen as an important step for being a successful Araxian citizen. The majority of the population owns bulls, with the exception of city dwellers. They are groomed and well kept, but only the rich spend effort decorating their bulls.

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>>74509070
Like horses, these bulls are also used for war. Riders are trained to charge enemy lines at fast speeds, using the bulls as mobile battering rams. Sometimes, these bulls are also used to break down keep doors, but only if the opportunity is right. They also have a love for heavy weapons and heavy armor. Once the lines are broken by the bull riders, Araxians charge in full plate and bash their way through the enemy. If there is one thing Araxians love more than the full force and stopping power of a charging bull, it is the full force and stopping power of a warhammer.

The most popular event in Araxia is the Bull Run, where two riders start a mile away and charge towards each other. They charge for a mile so that the bulls have sufficient time to pick up speed. They bulls then crash into each other in a fight for dominance, and the bareback riders have to try to not get thrown off. If they do get thrown off, they lose. If a bull falls, the rider of that bull loses. Bulls rarely crumple after the initial hit, and they will juke around each other, trying to charge the fleshy and easily breakable midsection and rear. The rider can also try to steer the bull to get a strategic position against the other rider for the bull to charge, but this might leave him and his bull exposed. Bulls often break bones clashing this way, and sometimes a riders leg might be struck too. The end of a Bull Run usually leaves a bull or their rider permanently damaged. These events bring in large crowds, and because of this riders make a lot of money. Even if permanently injured for life, and a smart rider can easily support themselves even after a short career.

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>>74509091
The Araxian Bull Tour is a yearly festival where each province/locality of Araxia sends a highly decorated Running Bull and a rider, to ride as a procession and visit every province in Araxia. Each year a different border province gets chosen to be the starting point of the procession, and the destination is always the capital, where the bulls are presented to the royal family. The Touring Bull festival is a chance for a province to promote business with other provinces, and maybe even other nations, for delegates and diplomats are traditionally invited to watch the procession. The festival used to be common among Araxia's neighbors as well, but over time was dropped for one reason or another.

There are a few unique sayings to the Araxian kingdom. The main one is “bull watch over you” which is used by old money nobles and aristocrats. It roughly translates to god watch over you, but also has the connotation that bulls will be there to help you in your journeys. A similar one to this is “great bull”. This has different meanings depending on what social class you are speaking with. For lower classes, it is akin to saying Jesus Christ as a swear. For the higher classes, it is invoking god as represented through the power of the bull. This is akin to lord have mercy. Boisterous is used as a term of endearment for a person, by relating their characteristics to that of the bull.

There is a postal service of the Araxian kingdom, referred to as the “charge”. The name comes from the speedy delivery of mail and a propaganda campaign from the crown stating that the royal word now "travels as fast as our bulls can charge!" The system is made up of bull riders delivering mail throughout the kingdom. This is mostly reserved for the upper classes, but charge houses can be found in most towns for those that can pay.

>>74508982
No, check Crystal Spire in the Khanate lore.

>>74509103
Araxian men have a reputation for having huge testicles. It's a running joke across the Westrasi sea. Reality is sadly that they are boringly average to Westrasi ethnicity.

Religion
Araixa worships Gloria-Etalia and the Church of Divine Duality. While their worship of the boar was thoroughly stomped out of them by the Verani Empire, boar imagery is often included in Gloria-Etalia worship.


Origin
The Araxian kingdom is one of the earliest Westrasi human kingdoms. Since antiquity barbarian tribes have lived along the river Tarkos. They hunted, raided, and worshiped the local cattle(citation needed) subspecies as sacred animals for their prowess in battle. It was not until the Verani Empire conquered the region and set to civilising the natives did the first trappings of the Araxian Kingdom formed. For two hundred years the Verani civilised the native barbarian population. They built towns and cities, and domesticated the Araxian Running Cow(citation needed) as a farm animal to the dismay of the Araxians. They taught the local barbarians how to be civilised, and they also taught them the glory of Gloria-Etalia, and The Church of Divine Duality was quickly established in the region. While the Araxians were not happy with being second class citizens under the boot of a distant empire, they adapted to their masters wishes and grew into a proper civilised state. When the empire first started to fall in 3800 the Araxians were one of the first to declare independence and quickly carved out their own territory with the re-establishment of the Araxian Running Cow as a war machine. This was done by the first sovegrn king of Araxia, Bunden Ribbsworth. Through his rule and conquests he established the Araxian Bull as the symbol of the nation and while worship of the beast was never revived, the bull became an international symbol for Araxia, with other nations referring to Araxians as “The Bulls”.

>>74509117
Diplomacy
Araxians have a long history of conflict with the Sarcian Mountain Tribes in the east and the Yoroi Tribelands in the west.

They hold a respectful relationship with the Leixi-Airoxian Commonwealth after realising their military power, and have trade agreements with them. They seek an military alliance with the commonwealth, but the commonwealth is hesitant to join in as they realise that Araxians would exploit this alliance to take our conquer their enemies.

Araxia has a strong rivalry with the Farisian Republic. Border skirmishes are common, and proxy conflicts are fought through the Farisian’s employment of Yoroi mercenaries.

They hold a series of economic trade deals with the Euraxian Kingdom, which they leverage to decrease the soft power of their rivals the Farisians.

Because of the Vashian Republic’s help with the invasion of the Sarcian Mountain Tribes, several economic concessions have been made to them.

Araxians maintain friendly relationships to almost all of the other nations they are in contact with. While they still are prideful and want their way when negotiating, they see a lot less strategic value in fighting with nations that aren't their direct neighbors.

Geography
Most of Araxia is made up of flat plains. The river Tarkos runs through the kingdom to the sea, and it has been theorized that a ley line(citation needed) runs under the kingdom. Because of recent conquests in the Sarcian Mountain Tribes, to the west the land starts to get hilly and mountainous. There are also dense forests in the north-western part of the kingdom, which is currently inhabited by a small Dryad community.

Economy
Most of the nation's wealth comes from taxes and trade. Goods are traded with the Euraxians, and the Farisians primarily, but other nations are traded with as well.

>>74509133

Recent Events

4951 - A group of dryads enter the kingdom from the Leixi-Airoxian Commonwealth. With no official approval from the crown, they settle in the forests in the north-west of the kingdom. Local officials were dispatched, and after some negotiations the land was announced to be their home, and logging was declared forbidden in the region. They were declared citizens, and they paid yearly taxes to the kingdom. No one but the crown knows where they came from or why they are there. The region is mostly avoided by humans.

4977 - The king Alfred II Ribbsworth dies under unknown circumstances at age 63. His Brother Robert Ribbsworth takes the throne as a regent until Alfred II’s son is old enough to rule.

4982 - Alfred III Ribbsworth takes the crown at age 16 and his uncle Robert Ribbsworth steps down from his regency.

4984 - King Alfred III Ribbsworth marries the Euraxian Princess Elika.

4985 - Herb III Ribbsworth is born

4986 - New Royal Admiral is announced after the old one dies. The son of the previous admiral, he is brash, headstrong, and will quote “never back down, ever!”

4987 - Giri VI and Pual Ribbsworth are born.

4989 - Yerki Hert is disposed of his land after being found embezzling the king’s taxes. Ikarna Ribbsworth is given the land to administer.

4990 - The beginning of the invasion of the Sarcian Mountain Tribes with the help of the Vashian Republic
4991 - Ninety percent of the royal navy gets sunk during a training exercise because the Royal Admiral forced the ships into shallow waters during a storm. Is promptly sacked and his uncle is announced as the new Royal Admiral.

4992 - The invasion of the Sarcian Mountain Tribes ends inconclusively with some land gained.

4996 - Araxia gets laughed out of westrasi sea tourney(citation needed) when it gets revealed they borrowed merchant ships to use instead of their own navy.

>>74509148

5000 Herb III Ribbsworth gets kidnapped by bandits and is shipped out of the kingdom! The king is mad with grief, and he is debating whether to hunt the bandits down or not. Attacking someone holding your son hostage could end badly, but paying the ransom would be costly and would be a blow to his pride. The only lead is that the ships were reported to go north.

>That's it.
>I think I'm done writing lore for the day.
>What do y'all think? Any Changes?

>>74508982
I suppose the Mai-xi population of ogres would be all baseline ogres with little to no magic as there aren't any ley lines close by. Maybe the occasional necrotic ogre.

I'll work on reworking the magical ogres based on the ley line descriptions. I'll definitely rework the magical blasts from destructive and remove the additional elemental feature from baseline ogres. I'll also tone down the magical capabilities of ogres in general.

>>74509045
>Ribbsworth
Feels a little bit too comical and foppish, for the hardcore warrior kingdom.

>>74509180
Yeah, that'd Bel neat + maybe something to lik them to another race. We know they ain't goblinoid. Maybep they are related to dwarves?

Did someone recorded the Path of Mud and Clay martial arts and the flying spiders?

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>>74494072

Alright, done with the sharp map with features. I have a couple of questions for the thread:

>1
I've made the lines on rivers and mountains a bit thinner and I've made them more detailed, particularly the mouths of some of the rivers. Are you okay with this or should I maintain the look of the original map? I'm well aware I'm no artist.

>2
Other anons have already made more detailed maps of certain regions >>74500686 >>74502378 >>74466327 as well as all the additional lore and I'm not sure if I should start including all that and to what level detail. If so, what should I do with areas that haven't been detailed? Should I just add my own stuff so the level of detail is consistent or should I leave it as is? In this map, I've included the rivers in Radmir and the volcano on Cloud Island but I wanted to ask here first before I started adding more stuff.

As always, tell me if you spot something wrong with the map. Alternatively, you could make changes yourself, that's the whole reason I even made this.

>>74509358
It looks nice. So clean.

>>74509024
>>74509045
>>74509070
>>74509091
>>74509103
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>>74509117
>>74509133
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>>74509160
Was a great read, good job anon!

>>74508890
the word "fey" gets used in a lot of different places, it is probably just a catch all term for magic that seems nature-y.

>>74509133
love the new araxian lore, it has a good amount of depth around it, is built around clear themes, and meshes well with existing lore

>>74509358
You can add your own stuff. I think early this thread one anon proposed names for unnamed parts of the world though some are renaming existing names.

>>74509358
Looks good. Unless someone adds rivers i don't think there is a point to add those minor details. I hoever think we could focus on creatign region wide maps, that would serve as definitive versions in this style.

>>74509358
missing the sea wall around the desert in the north anon. But map looks good

>>74509160
Well its all great. Don't know what else to say.
>>74509337
Sorry, i was suposed to write it but it just fell out of my head when writting Balthazar lore. I'l go take care of this style in a moment

>>74509358
It misses the odd mountains in the irradiated desert.

>>74509318
Changes made to ogre magic
>removed the necrotic touch and raw magical blasts
>replaced with longevity and tougher skin for permanence
>possibly causing organ rupture for trying to cast magic in destructive
>replaced imposing will on nature to promote growth of berry bush on themselves plus a magical viagra
>baseline ogre magic uses permanence to create tougher skin
>permanence+growth to gain short bursts of rapid regeneration
>destructive increases the power behind club swings and bites

>>74509636
I'd add that, Ogres turn stupid the less ambient magic surrounds them growing up. So the closer they are to baseline.

Giving birth to the stereotype of them being stupid in parts of the world.

>>74509696
Ogres that grow up in magical dead zones are referred to by their magically sustained kin as ogrelets. Also added your suggestion to the wiki.

>>74509817
Wouldn't only magicaly dead zones be some parts of sea, most of celestial empire and irradiated desert?

>>74509871
I don't think magically dead is literally "no magic", just little and that can be very different in meaning for humans and Ogres.

>>74509891
Fair enought.

>>74494072
this needs a ck2 mod

>>74509871
Apart from being a magic battery ogres are also magic stud finders now. An area needs to be magically rich for them to get anything out of it.

>>74509986
I was thinking the same as one point, but trust me to call mapmaking in paradox games pain in the ass is understatement.

>>74509997
Huh, if you put it like this i think i should change up Mai-Xi lore because it seems like now there is no way for ogre civilization exist there since its mostly quite far from closest leyline.
Maybe they are some subspecies of ogre, or something like this. I'l have to think about it.

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>>74509500
Should the sea wall be on a map of geographic features? It's giant for a wall but I only imagined it to be some hundred meters tall, not mountain sized. I just planned to draw it as a line on the political map as "crumbling wall".

Besides I have absolutely zero clue how to draw a dilapidated wall, I'm not artistic enough for that. At best I can give you this but it's so shitty I was even hesitant to post it but I'll let you judge if you wanna use it. I wouldn't.

>>74510072
I mean ogres are still able to grow outside of leylines it just means these ogres are weaker than their wild counterparts.

>>74510034
EU4 might be easier as you can use the "random new world" as a basis to make custom maps.

Since Rolling for elven lore was quite succes maybe we should continue it with some other nation?
Rules: Ending in odds or dubs/trips/quads give success. Dubs/trips/quads open a new question given in the same post.
So give a suggestion AND a question to open when responding. A question closes after 10 successful responses, but can be re-opened. OQ is open question.
OQ: Westrasi is home to many cultures, but what are greatest cultural achivements from there? (it can be anything from architecture, throught literature, and painting, music etc.)

this time keep it non lewd

>>74510207
random new world is more unstable than converter from eu4 to ck2.
Best shot for something like this would be ck3 since from what i heard they will go step further with map modding than imperator, so it can be a good one. But for now lets keep it on board and away from normies

>>74510240
It's book if 10000 giants. A thick book of 10 000 short poems describing the life of a Morloux stone giant of ancient times.

This book of short poems bece so famous it is near mythical in status with its anecdotes quips and stories.

Giving birth to many sayings.

>>74505847
Giants have no magic... how do they break the squarecube law then?

>>74510285
CK3 will take years before it's as explored as older paradox games for modding.

Frequent updates early on will make modding hellish too.

>>74510316
Ancient bioengineering.

>>74510316
literaly bioenginered by humans to have race with gigantism that would have hardship creating anything of note.
Since then they evolved a bit (or atleas i think so) and can more or less as normal species. Little bit of suspention of disbelief can work wonders.

>>74510240
Imperial Palace of Verani Empire in Ravena, now repurposed as meeting hall for confederation is breathtaking example of verani architecture, with its complex columns, and colored marble walls it became inspiration for most of reneisance buildings in the region

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Path of Mud and Clay
This fighting style focused on really close combat, grapples and chokes, and dodging. Often called "Flexible style", it prioritize getting as close to your adversary as you can, barely leaving it any space to move and react at all, while you can strike without harm. Masters of this style can be mere millimiters from their targets and attack with a swift flurry of blows. It also has an emphasis to adapt your movements and positioning to the opponent.
It was created basing of fire style by traveling band of Belarian mercenaries and headhunters. They were disbanded long ago, but schools of this style can still be found around the westrasi.


Also i someone has fun idea for martial style just write it down, where it was founded, and if it its succesor style to one of previous ones, and il put on map.

>>74510240
The Sacred Heavenly Gardens of Celestia; This terraces are four tiers of large verdant areas surrounding the Imperial Spring Palace. A advanced system of water pumps and aqueducts means water flows from the higher tiers into the lower ones. Cherry trees, green leaf palms and over two thousand masterful sculptures spread across it. Legend says that during the Mythic reign of gold, the gardens rivers flowed with spiced ricewine rather than water.

Naga are on the wiki

https://gloriaetalia.fandom.com/wiki/Naga

>>74510240
The Castle of Balar, the original seat of power for the Belaran Empire was a massive complex the size of a small city, built directly into the side of the southern mountains. It’s size was awesome in of it self but it’s beautiful white marble exterior and it’s interior furnished with lavish gold and vibrant colours in extravegant designs, has influenced architecture in all of west Westrasi and modern Belarans still try to emulate it.
Most of it however is gone now. Much of it was destroyed in a massive siege during the civil war and as the capital of Morloux was moved, the castle was left abandoned. It was further demolished in the Morloux revolution.

Q: what delicious dish exemplifies the cousine of each Westrasi nation? What’re it’s ingridients and cooking method?

>>74510791
Araxian eat Ox tail soup. It's rich and for foreigners tastes atrocious,but Araxians love it.

Celestial are about all things rice, but perhaps the dish that better exemplifies the empire cuisine is the Roasted Eel. Eels are grown in artificial ponds and farmed, so even the poor can afford to eat them sometimes. Flesh from it's side is cut into long strips and roasted over a very hot fire only briefly. The exterior gets roasted and crispy, but the interior is raw. This is served with a side of rice, river algae salad and sometimes, a duck egg that marinated in ricewine.

>>74508498
It's left vague because they crop up in a number of nations

>>74500055
I'd suspect that it'd lead to a duel with no quarter. Someone will die, and occasionally both will. This is unlike in an ordinary duel, where after an appropriate level of crossing swords and maybe some minor wounding, it is considered acceptable for one side to yield with all demands of honor satisfied.
Virtually all duelists are usually scrupulously careful to make sure that it is known that they went into the duel willingly. This prevents any busybody from claiming that it was murder and getting laws and stuff like that involved.

>>74508724
>>74508709
>>74508692
Please, not another race of a dozen flavors and super special magic.

>>74511436
It's not a dozen flavors and the magic has been rewritten to be ley line compliant.

>>74499661
>Ecinev and Treants
While they really hate each other, at the time of the setting the two sides are not actively warring. That's because there was a huge yet inconclusive war about 25-30 years ago which was pretty horrific on both sides. The treants lost a number of elders to fire teams, including their war leader, Oakroot Gladehollow (as well as many younger saplings and dryads, who are much less important) whereas Ecinev lost nearly 5% of its citizen population in the battles, often due to impaling roots erupting from the ground within fortifications.
The consequences of this are that currently the Treants are focusing their expansion efforts to the north and west and have adopted a very slow incremental approach, and the current generation of Ecinev leadership are loth to bring battle to anyone using their own families (just too many widows close to home). This is the weakness that Morloux are exploiting with their adventures in Nulamore and up the Gulf of the Forest.
They hate each other, but currently fear each other a bit, and each feels happier with other adventures.

>>74511436
Reminds me of this time I tried to get my group's build a setting together and one guy tried to add something like five subspecies of gnomes. Ogres sound like a combination of this settings trolls and oni. Its redundant. If they were giant/troll hybrids I'd kind of get it but still. I think we have more than enough races already. It feels like we jumped the shark with the beastmen thing.

>>74511044
>Araxian eat Ox tail soup. It's rich and for foreigners tastes atrocious
That last bit is extremely unlikely, unless they leave all the fat in and claim that it's not a good soup if it isn't a symphony in grease...

>>74511494
They're yet another large race. If they reflect whatever leyline they're near then they are literally all the magical flavors of this settings magical rainbow. The whole thing sounds as try-hard as that glutton did at first.

>>74511584
Yeah beastmen were largly un needed, but ogres were a thing since like third or fourth thread in albeit different less descibed form.

>>74511630
>>74511584
>>74511436
>>74511494
This situation is very much like with glutton, and because of id sugest we deal with it the same. Some other anon should mold what was written untile now about ogres into something more digestable and be done with it.

>>74511677
They should have an increased odds of birthing "intelligent" ogres with a latent magical aptitude if they're living near enough to leylines. Make ogre makes rare but the combination of magic, intellect and physical strength makes any one of them a real threat. They can have a natural inclination towards the type of magic the feeling is attuned to. Ogres could be yet another attempt at the ubermensch that has gone awry.

>>74508677
Looks good to me.

>>74508692
I like how the ogres turned out. This >>74508724 in particular is great. These >>74509180 chnges will make them even better.

>>74509358
Nice! I gotta say I love that we just keep making maps. Also, those mountians are sharm. Again, great job.

>>74510132
Looks good to me. I think that because the wall has been there for *forever*, it counts in everyone's mind as geography.

>>74510240
A Yoroslovan historian named Pinor Dunsal wrote a book called the voice of the nation, which is a compiled list of interviews from peasants to a short section from the king himself. The book is conterversal, as in it are accounts of government corruption, church decadence, and a scandel revealing the king is a illegitmate bastard to the royal crown, if it is true. He published this, and was tried and hanged by the crown for slander agnast the king and civil unrest. While most of the book is benign and boring, his trial and death was enough to elevate the hisotical account among the literaly nobility to greatness. While it is banned in most Westrasi nations, an underground ring of the middle class and nobility share the few copies out there among themselves, and more are being printed.

Question: What is one fact (or lie) about the Yoroslovian Kingdom?

>>74510525
Added a martial arts page on the wiki. https://gloriaetalia.fandom.com/wiki/Martial_Arts. It's under the "world lore" category, which is stuff that is bigger than a group of nations, but is not big enough to require it's own cagegory (like magic). The solar system will go here as well. Could you add the map and all of the martial arts lore to the wiki? It saves me from finding it all, and I have other stuff I wan't to work on.

>>74510602
Thanks.

>>74511831
>Make ogre makes rare
*mages

>>74511838
Il post martial arts on wiki tomorow since i just turned off my pc and editing it on phone is way to early grave.

>>74511831
>They can have a natural inclination towards the type of magic the leyline is attuned to.
No more phone posting for me.

>>74511653
>>74511584
Honestly I don't remember seeing lore for the beastmen or ogres till now. They were placed on the ethnic map, and people said "well, we have beastmen and ogres now", and now 8-9 threads later we actually gave them lore. Personally while I think magic is dope, it will always be used as an "easy flavor" tool, because magic has no limits and so worldbuilding with it is easy. Therin lies the problem of making magical creatures.

>>74511831
This could be a good working counterbalance.

>>74511884
Sweet, thanks.

Did plan to have session of this setting for anons got anywhere? Or was it dropped?

>>74511677
Reins passed on to anyone who wants a go at the ogres then.
>>74511653
>>74511584
If you feel the beastmen are largely redundant I'd like to question if there's any other race that serves a niche like the tiny beastmen minisculis. I don't think we have any tiny races in this setting yet. I'd be willing to largely just delete the other two and make the tiny ones the de facto beastmen.

>>74512017
Other anons are being facetous, there is no need to scrap beastmen, in my book the more the merier when it comes to setting lore

After taking in all the comments I have reduced the frequency of ogres that can use magic frequently down to a hundreth of the ogre population, and the ones that transform down to a hundreth of a hundreth of the ogre population.

>>74512067
They still do bring up a good point about redundancy.

>>74511949
GURPS anon here...I'm planning my short campaign on the Westrasi sea. it's not gonna be a one session cause I'm incapable of those, but it's gonna have a limited scope. If it goes well, might expand. I'm still in writing/planning phase, but I'll run it on discord when ready and recruit from this thread.

Oh, >>74512778 here still...As an aside, by far the biggest hassle has been racial templates, so if we could compiled all 'mechanical' racial information we have in a single page of the wiki it would be great. Things like "meta race info" and mention weaknesses, lifespans, sensory abilities. Basically everything about a race that's not story or fluff, just physical descriptions. Hunting those piece by piece has been difficult.

>>74502400
It's the river between Eurax and Urox, and running through the Commonwealth.

>>74510791
>what delicious dish exemplifies the cousine of each Westrasi nation? What’re it’s ingridients and cooking method?
In Leixi, chicken throats are a delicacy. They end up becoming something like a burrito, with different food items being stuffed into the windpipe of the chicken depending on what you like. Some people put different meat in the windpipe, some put spices, some put vegetables, some people like combinations. The throat itself it lightly cooked after being removed from the chicken, then it is cut open to allow different foodstuffs to be added, at which point the throat is sewn back together and more thoroughly cooked. Some people remove the thread after the cooking is finished, some pick the thread out as they eat, and some people just eat the thread.

>>74512430
>They still do bring up a good point about redundancy.
Not really. Personally I find the focus on making this setting interesting combat wise has been pretty weak. Most areas have only 2-3 identifiable types of opponents, so you are going to have to move around a lot if you want to have a mid to long length campaign without repetition.

bumptyi

>>74508677
>>74507758
I've got a system in mind for tracking how the lines might carry residual magic from other lines that they intersect with, but I don't the time to create a map right now. I'm not sure how useful such a thing would be either, other than for illustrating how widespread most types of magic would be in the end.

>>74510791
Amongst the giants of the southern alliance there is a traditional food stuff of a rather acquired taste. Made originally as a travel ration for the giants calorie needy bodies it consists of an outer layer of fat cured pig or boar skin wrapped around layers of pemmican and fatty meats with the whole thing glazed with a thick layer of honey.

>>74512067
I think that the smol beastmen are definitely niche enough to stand on their own. Beastment of other "flavors" just need a bit more to them. A little secret of nym or redwall kind of thing.

>>74514346
>Most areas have only 2-3 identifiable types of opponents
Most areas have your typical goblin, troll, ogre, hobgoblin or undead. Then there's all that could be in the post apocolyps techno savage lands. The west is heavily inhabited so you're not going to see plenty of monstrous races. Thats where you'd see more druid terrorists, goblins in the sewers, political intrigue, cosmic horror, twighlight zone in the wyrd lands, etc. The north east and south east are high fantasy trolls, undead, dragons, treants, elves, etc and everything in the middle is post, post apocolypse; cyborgs, robots, technobarbarians, mutants, abberations, ect. We need more monsters sure but we also need to temper them when we put those ideas forward. Trolls for instance are only a threat in great numbers, ambushes or if they're ancient. A little fire and preperation and the threat they represent is greatly diminished. Goblins are a threat in large numbers but they're physically weaker and smaller than most races. The issue with ogres as they were first suggested made them sound like large brutish creatures with access to all the magic. Oni are monstrous looking highly magical creatures, trolls are monstrous, large brutes with a very crude, primitive understanding of magic. Ogres and oni are often used interchangeably in fantasy. Oni mages and ogre mages being the best example. For ogres to stand out they'd have to be something other than A)Highly magical and B)Large brutes. Combining the two simply makes the redundancy stand out that much more.

>>74511831
I like the idea that ogres are and/or were initially cannibals. Ogres are traditionally portrayed as monsters that eat humans after all. If they were part of the cannibal cults that were driven out and experienced some kind of change like the glutton, maybe by eating dryads, undead, oni, etc. It would go a long way to explaining their magical affinity. That in combination with living near leylines could alter them further. That said I agree with this >>74512430 choice they're more interesting if you don't know for sure which among them might be capable of throwing magic at you.

>>74512067
>facetous
Hardly, beast men just need a little something to make them stand out rather than just being anthropomorphic animals. I really do like the smol ones.
>more the merier
Thats kitchen sink thinking, like a good meal, too many ingredients can ruin it. What we need right now is flora, fauna and monstrous creatures. That said you could just as easily leave out monstrous creatures as most rpg systems have some kind of bestiary.

>>74512017
Orangutan-men and sentient small animals. All the descendants of lab animals. Set free by fey before the cataclysm (one of them). The orangutans could be the yoda-species of the setting. Good-natured, mysterious, rare and powerful, yet with a hands-off mentality towards world politics.

>>74511436
Stop being Salty.

Instead of teeing at an Anon for trying to fill a gap in the lore noone else did, add lore to make the Ogres fit better.

>>74511630
And a how did the Glutton turn out? Ah, yes. He's one of the best parts of the setting now.

>>74511831
... Isn't that a thing already? That if Ogres grow up in areas with little magic they turn retarded?

>>74512067
Yep. Beastmen are fine. If they think beastmen lack a niche add lore to them to make it fit one. It's easy to complain about someone's lore and be a little bitch rather than put in the effort to make it work.

It's the same idiots who complained about the Glutton.

>>74517172
Its more a case that areas with magic have a chance of causing the birth of intelligent ones. They don't turn retarded they are dim by nature. Magic users are a rarity not the norm.
>>74517158
>>74517197
So salty. The Glutton just needed tweaking to work. It was far from the best and it remains "ok". The first suggestion was cringey and that buttblasted some anons.

>>74511580
So basically that was the last of the frequent Wars of Steel and Wood?

>>74517144
>add lore
The problem was that existing lore needed to be changed. Anon >>74512430 has already done so. Problem solved. Now lets we can get back to adding things.

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>>74516461
>orangutan "wise men"
You got my vote anon

>>74517197
>It's easy to complain about someone's lore and be a little bitch
Anon says while contributing nothing

>>74517249
We all have our favourite lore, mine is the Glutton currently.

For the Ogres (knowing they ain't Goblinoid), I'd make them not!supermutants. Basically a result of super soldier projects from high-tech times.

They could reproduce asexually giving birth to new Oni only if they "absorbed" enough magic. Making them look for let lines and kidnap magically inclined people.

Other races you them as "magic sniffing dogs". If trained properly they can track down a mage who cast a spell in an area hours ago.

An Oni mage us 1 in 1000 000, and a great source of joy for the whole race. More common maybe 1 in 1000 Oni are spitters. A type of Oni mage which can swallow a spell as it's flung at it and then spit it back out (weaker) back at the attacker.

>>74517328
I contributed plenty. I did a small ogre rewrite now. Will do beastmen later.

>>74517344
>I contributed plenty
Sure anon

>>74517335
>For the Ogres (knowing they ain't Goblinoid), I'd make them not!supermutants. Basically a result of super soldier projects from high-tech times.
Thats cool
>They could reproduce asexually giving birth to new Oni only if they "absorbed" enough magic. Making them look for let lines and kidnap magically inclined people.
Ehhh....maybe not this one. What do you think of ogres exploding if they "eat" too much magic? Also maybe they can "eat" spells a certain number of times per day.
>Other races you them as "magic sniffing dogs". If trained properly they can track down a mage who cast a spell in an area hours ago.
Or truffle pigs for magic items and or artifacts.
>An Oni mage us 1 in 1000 000, and a great source of joy for the whole race. More common maybe 1 in 1000 Oni are spitters. A type of Oni mage which can swallow a spell as it's flung at it and then spit it back out (weaker) back at the attacker
I think its ogre mage. Oni are supposed to all be magic just really really low birthrates and non twins are basically a few steps away from hobgoblins.

>>74517369
> We're having this discussion again
We are anonymous for a reason and the reason is to avoid petty cock-meassuring like this.

But if you insist. I both set up the 1d4chan page and migrated evetythic from the Doc and then set up the wiki and migrated everything from the 1d4chan cache.

>>74517414
Don't forget you repeatedly let your ego get the better of you and REEEEE over any and all criticisms.

>>74517335
>>74517399
Personally I'd have it that they all start as Ogres but if they eat the enough magic then they become an Oni and gain some innate magical ability

>>74517399
We can drop that, bit... but why? Now we loose reason for Ogres to be sniffing out mages and lei lines.

You also make spitters into baseline Ogres not a rarity.

>>74517335
>Other races you them as "magic sniffing dogs". If trained properly they can track down a mage who cast a spell in an area hours ago.
>>74517399
>Or truffle pigs for magic items and or artifacts.
Combine these anons

>>74517470
>become an Oni
Oni are already demons originally the modern ones are basically tieflings

>>74517459
Projecting this hard.
Me telling you to stop being a little bitch shitting up the thread by being overcritical of others work is equivalent to you doing so, sure.

Are you just some annoying lurker just here to shit up the thread? You are not welcome here.

>>74517475
Ogres turning into Oni is a big No, from me.

>>74517475
>Now we loose reason for Ogres to be sniffing out mages and lei lines
Not necessarily, they can still hunger after magic. It just lessens their hunger temporarily. Its like a drug to them. Or catnip. One that eats enough can give birth to/sire an ogre mage. Its the rarity that makes them special.
>>74517475
>You also make spitters into baseline Ogres not a rarity
Spitters are already rare anon check out >>74512430

>>74517496
>being overcritical
The REEEEEE'ing continues. Where do you think you are?

>>74517521
Making magic into a Drug for Ogres could work. It's an interesting touch. I support this.

>>74517532
What did you write, then?

In a thread about worldbuilding which is very kitchen sink and half of the nation's started out as shitpost.

>>74517478
Seconded
>>74517470
No offense anon, but I don't like it.

>>74517521
>ogre catnip
I both want to and don't want to see this such conflict within me.

>>74517563
I wrote the best parts obviously, the ones that weren't shit, also known as the parts you like.

>>74517563
>What did you write, then?
Changing the topic is effectively admitting anon was right

>>74517591
Ah, yes. Got it. Good on you, I fell for the bait. I'll stop replying to the troll now.

You are not welcome here.

>>74517614
I answered where I think I am literally next sentence.

I really am too weak against bait

>>74517399
Ogres I'm down with
>Eat pretty much anything organic & magic
>Can sniff out mages, magic items & artifacts
>They become more durable as they eat magic
>Chance to sire/birth an ogre mage if they eat enough magic
>Can eat spells (Thats terrifying)
>Pig faced with tusks
>Origin is basically supermutants from FO
>Magic has a drug like addictiveness so they seek out magic, spellcasters, leylines, etc.

>>74517675
Now we need to think how the subraces will fit into this.

>>74517767
Ogres that eat an inordinate amount of undead grow bone like protrusions and hunger for sentient life as much as magic. They also develop a sort of allergic reaction to sunlight.

>>74517767
>>74517795
Rather than subraces I was thinking more along the lines of a transformation after consuming enough of X, Y or Z. Really old ogres almost always become an ogre of a specific diet. Their favorite food becomes a part of them. You are what you eat.

>>74517811
The unfortunate existence of the Elder Dick Ogres raises so many questions.

>>74517822
>Elder Dick Ogres
I kek'd anon well done. I do like the idea of an ogre thats eaten enough dragon-spawn or wyverns to develop a sort of fire-belch, some scales and stubby horns. Or an ogre thats eaten enough dryads to have a single sapling growing out of the side of his head. Makes each of the elders a unique encounter.

>>74517887
Doesn't that basically make them canibal cults 2.0?

I'd keep them to absorbing magic trough eating and if you want an effect like this it can be an Ogre which is also a Cannibal Cultist.

>>74517938
Fair enough. Its just that I don't think subraces needs to be a thing though either. I think focusing on a single race gives that race more character than splitting it into two or more. There's a loss of focus that doesn't provide the same quality. My only counterpoint to cannibals 2.0 is that I don't think the cannibals actually change all that much. The glutton was some kind of fluke. I'd need to read up on the cannibals though.

I just read the Beastmen lore, it really seems OK and I don't see the complaints about it. The races have also a solid niche being only 1-2 feet tall.

Adding hyperlinks to articles to make Wiki easier to read for newcomers.

If anyone makes an Article try to hyperlink it too.

> OG Canibal Cults lore
Because the process of gaining Eiph's blessed power sally involves killing good and holy mortals of his faith, there has been development keeping the soul whole when consumed. By eating the body whole while it is alive, the two bodies merge into one. The soul however stays intact, and the two people now have the power of someone that has eaten two whole soul fragments. This process is difficult, as the person must be eaten whole and alive until they are fully broken down and consumed by the eater, which can take several days. Magic to transform the bodies help, but if something goes wrong it can prove to be fatal to both the consumer and the consume. This process is called god eating among the cultists. If the god eating goes well, then two whole minds inhabit one body with the power of two full soul fragments. This does also cause mental and physical issues. The most common side effect is that extra limbs develop and the person starts to talk and interact with themselves, but other things can happen as well. This process can be repeated with more bodies, but the side effects of god eating start to become bigger and bigger until you are left with a blob of limbs and heads, with many voices calling out with no rhyme or reason. This is being worked on and fine tuned.


I forgot about this part, it's whack. I like how some people claim to have read this and then say "I think cannibal cults are supposed to be just a superstition not true".

Well, well, well. Who knew that first real argument here will be about fucking ogres.
Even after reading this whole discusion is hard to pin point exackly how would people see them.
I for one would sugest to just use those points >>74517675 how they are presented, and just ignore subraces/ogre evolution as was presented, because it was one of first things anons had problems with when talking about ogres.

And one more thing. guys, some of you seem like they can't control their emotions ans start acting like faggots if something does not go their way.
So get a hold of yourselves, because all it leads to is derailing whole thread.

>>74518833
It's not the first argument it's 2nd. You are right though. We need to ignore the "overly critical" kind of people as they don't contribute and just come to derail.

I tried already rewriting the Ogre article on the Wiki with accordance to said changes. The Subraces were a thing the OG creator proposed, so I am not sure of it's OK for us to just retcon them. After all it's a group project. I think it'd be better to rework/reconstextualize them.

>>74518893
Rename 'subrace' to 'specialization' or 'growth' perhaps? I do like the idea that an Ogre will transform if it eats enough of a type of magic. Also the magic types earlier, I like that too.

>>74518893
Only "argument" i can think of was the one about coomers, and that was difused preety qucikly irc.

When it comes to changing already written lore we should always have in mind that this is precisely group project. Each of us that adds something to this thread creates lore that needs to be more or less tied to rest of the setting, but also satisfing to other anons that work on it.
OG anon already said he gives up reigns over ogres, and that prowes only that he isn't attached to them, like some more possesive anons are about what they write. He was good sport about whole thing, so i doubt he would have something against just cutting the most controversial part out.
Also no one says that in future we wont expand on ogres or other races, but now we have to be focused on what we do. And that means trying to avoid stirring controversy in this thread.

>>74518893
>We need to ignore the "overly critical" kind of people
I think we need to be less defensive. Its 4chan not reddit and >>74517647 anon lost all credibility when he fell for bait.

I agree with >>74518833 anon. This has most of what people have suggested as being the better option >>74517675. OG creator has already said they give up the reins so the "retcon" as you put it is a non issue. Wouldn't mind seeing the OG creator weigh in on those changes though.

I kind of prefer the new ogre stuff as apposed to the first suggestion. That said I also like pretty much all the beastman stuff thats been suggested.
>>74517293
I god damned love this picture.

>>74519032
Oh, no. The Glutton when it started had the same type of reaction for some reason.

>>74519040
Being defensive or not, we need to aknowlage that the "creativity bad" crowd is starting to come to troll the threads and we need to tell them to fuck off.

The way we should handle bad lore is how we did with the Glutton. Writing more lore to make it good. If you complain about lore someone wrote you should always offer a rewrite otherwise you should be ridiculed, bullied and told to fuck off an kys. The "creativity bad" types is what ruined /tg/. Gatekeeping is not a bad thing.

> I am gonna ask the controverssial question now though.
There have been a lot of meta-discussions popping out in the thread lately. Should we make a Discord to keep them there?

>>74519126
>meta-discussions
Like the role play stuff and dice tables?
>Glutton reaction
I think that was due to the power scaling that would occur with the first depiction of that entity. Regardless of intention it came off pretty crazy, like it would eventually become a god and devour the world or something. I vaguely recall something about eating a bunch of giants or some such.

>>74519126
Glutton reaction was't as bad; it didn't stir up so much shit as reaction to this.

>There have been a lot of meta-discussions popping out in the thread lately. Should we make a Discord to keep them there?
No. If we go of the thread with any kind of discussion we will go against whole idea of any anon being able to enter, and write some lore out of blue. So id sugest we keep discusion in threads only. Im not against using discord to play a game in the setting as proposed by Gurps anon (doing great work btw), but anything else is too much.

>>74519126
>"creativity bad"
Most anons had specific issues if most anons don't like a thing we should exclude the thing. If most anons are good with a little tweaking then thats fine to. A group project doesn't mean the first suggestion or idea is gospel. It means the group decides.

>>74519176
The second we do a discord is the second this becomes a click and many people will abandon ship. Those remaining will kill the setting with incestuous ideias that don't have enough new blood. I'm firmly against

>>74519364
Yeah, creating discord is worst possible idea

Shut uo about the fucking glutton the whole issue people had with him was not having a "can't lose" joker-style antagonist that was unnecessarily edgy. Some anon took issue and who him getting defeated and that adjusted the tone a lot but if you keep jerking off the nurgle look-a-like it's gonna get back to the point where it's just a grimderp villain jerking off on the setting

>>74519404
> no you are not allowed to like this thing about the setting
Go back to jerking off to snow elves

>>74519126
>Should we make a Discord
No thanks, even with partial anonymity some anons are ruining it. On discord it would become a clique and those who stick around would get hit over the head with "I contributed such and such so my vote means more" I gag every time I see that kind of talk.

>>74519420
Anon, just accept that some people think your idea was bad. Not everyone is going to like everything you make. I agree with >>74519404
to some extent. The glutton was pretty shit.

>>74519420
Bitter bitch much?

>>74517675
I'm good with this, let OG weigh in on it. Even though he "gave up the reins" on it awhile ago. I agree with Skrug, take all the beastman stuff and mix it together.

>>74519443
> No you are not allowed to like this thing
I didn't write it. Not everyone with the name Anonymous is the same person newfag.

This project has really gone to shit. No more comfy worldbuilding with a good atmosphere. All just salty trolls telling you what you get to like it not without contributing.

>>74519505
Has the project gone to shit or are you just mad and in need of taking some time to walk away and cool your head?

Alright as the first anon that sat down and wrote lore about the ogres the last thing I'll say is that I only bothered creating transformations on the already existing ley lines. Places where multiple ley lines cross are considered multiple types of magic and would only lead to ogre mages. Over the course of their growth period an ogre needs to consume 99% of one type of magic to transform, in order to transform, on top of the requirement that it's an abundant amount of magic.

>>74519530
It has gone to shit.

>>74519530
The project objectively hasn't gone to shit. So it must be the latter

>>74519572
You should probably grab a beer and chill out, lad.

>>74519572
Bye

>>74519585
>>74519587
You two will not be missed.

>>74517675
So this
>>74519554
With this

>>74519572
Anon I second this >>74519585 I'm guessing you're the one that got baited and has been a catty bitch since. You need to take a walk and develop some thicker skin.

>>74519598
I'm not the one declaring project to be shit or intend to leave. So ofc I won't be missed. I'm here. Anon who thinks this has turned to shit should go and do better things witb his time though. Maybe jerk off to fat porn

>>74519505
>All just salty trolls telling you what you get to like it not without contributing
You sound like a real cunt. How could you possibly know what anons have or have not contributed up until now? Maybe they just don't like a specific thing or the entirety of a post, they're free to shit all over whatever they like just as much as you're allowed to like whatever it is you're so desperately trying to defend.

I also don't care for the initial ogre suggestion (because thats what it was) and I like the new stuff >>74517675

And just so you can't be a cunt about not contributing. I vote the bug people and their teriad ancestors should get struck by lightning if they walk above ground during storms since they're covered in metal.

What's the atitude towards relationships, nudity, the body and sex in the different cultures and religions? Is any like medieval christianity? Or any like roman debauchery?

>>74519603
Make me faggot.

>>74519616
As always the humble newfag tells one of the people who were in the setting from the start to go away. You were never invited. You're not welcome here.

>>74519657
> Project has not gone to shit

>>74519657
Pretty much free love in Skrug's land actually. Not much in the way of restrictive religions. The existing ones are all about having a good time.

>>74519675
Big yikes. How can someone write this and somehow think everyone else is wrong?

>>74519675
>Bitches about anons telling people what to like
>telling anons they're not welcome and should leave
So you just want anons whose ideas you like? Man that kind of hypocritical thinking must weigh you down IRL real bad.

>>74519642
I didn't mind the OG, Ogre stuff. The new piece of lore I dislike most is the Araxians Rewrite.

They went from bull themed knights to. Bull knights in bullarmor, riding bulls, worshipping bulls and even their postal service being bulls. They're the Space Wolves of this setting.

Honestly might work on rewriting this soon.

>>74519709
> You are not allowed to try chasing people out who try to chase you out

Irl if someone punches you I bet you are the kind of faggot who then lies down and spreads his buttcheeks.

>>74494072
This thread is autism and I love it.

>>74519697
Grow a thicker skin sissy, oh or are we not doing "thick skin" when the lady is the upset one now?

>>74519733
This amazing. You got so butthurt you're making imagined realities. What an absolute meltdown.

>>74519747
> No reading comprehension
If you can't read how am I to believe you can write? Non-contributors are not welcome. Bye.

>>74519746
I'm not offended. I'm embarrassed for you. You show a complete lack of social awareness and no understanding of how immature and poorly behaved your actions come across as. This tantrum is just cringy.

>>74519734
Fuck this thread and fuck you too nigger.

>>74519691
Don't take the bait.

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>>74519760
Go ride your moral high horse on Reddit. Noone cares about this shit here. Grow a thicker ski or gtfo.

>>74519779
>grow a thicker skin
t. Guy throwing a tantrum because people disagreed with him.

Holy shit, it's like your brain regressed to five year old.

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As always these shitty "projects" collapse with infighting.

>>74519812
> No U REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Ah, yes. A classic.

>>74519813
As always people that don't contribute are first to name project colapsed.

>>74519813
Is it really infighting if it's just one guy sperging out?

>>74519716
They went from another generic civilization to somethin more fantastical, and i see this as good thing.

I'm just going to wait a few hours til things have calmed down.

>>74519833
>just one guy sperging
Seems like it

>>74519843
The bull theme went from being peanut butter gently put on a sandwich. To dumping a piece of bread in peanutbutter and and pulling out a huge chunk of peanutbutter with the bread possibly being somewhere still there.

>>74519864
You say that, but this entire thread gave birth to a total of: 2 pieces of lore

Neither of which are liked.

>>74519843
I think he has a point. Bull knights are interesting but there's a point where the motif is overplayed. Your key elements should be the focal points of what makes the group special. If that theme is plastered onto everything then it blends into the background. It's like how one or two pieces of bright clothing can make an outfit stand out but if everything is the same colour you have no real definition.

>>74519675
>>74519684
Last (you) that I'll give you just to let you know that I'll ignore you from now on.

>>74519832
Like you contributed anything.

>>74519880
>Leylines
>Ogres
>Araxians
>Rex Hybrid Wyvern
>Some stuff about westrasian culture

Yeah thats more than just 2, and only one of those had any real backlash.

>>74519893
This. Maybe we could make it so bulls become aggressive near each other so only 1-5 can ever be in one army to prevent that.

With being the one to ride the bull being a great honour.

The bull theme stays, but it's not a whole at riding them while all their neighbours and the whole world uses horses.

>>74519898
>another faggot wan't to star dick measuring contest
Go die in ditch

>>74519924
Rex Hybrid Wyvern is a 2 sentence shitpost. I should know I wrote it.

The Leylines are pretty neat though. I'll admit that.

>>74519935
t. some fag who didn't contribute any lore, but likes to LARP as the project's leader

>>74519924
>tfw talking snakes get overlooked
I see how it is. My magnum opus goes unsung.

>>74519948
Even if he didnt contribute anything who are you to call him out? You act like allknowing faggot that wants to see this tread crash and burn. As far as this thread goes im sure he contributed even in this thread more than you ever did.

>>74519893
Another thing we need to ask is:
> If Araxian Bulls are so great why don't other nations also use them as mounts? Shouldn't everyone want them?

>>74519980
Wasn't they from last thread, not this one?

>>74519998
Nope. I'm 100% sure he did not. I can tell you though that if I deleted my contributions basically the whole project would be gone.

>>74520005
Maybe those bulls are like north african elephants? Used in warfrae by everyone else in the region, but araxians are main exporters and they tell who gets to use them?

>>74519657
Celestial is very conservative, they see homosexuality as sin against the heavenly order and want sex to happen within the bonds of matrimony. That said, powerful individuals, 99% of time men, can have multiple wives.

However the reality of it is that, aside from a few zealots, almost nobody openly persecute gays and people fucking outside of wedlock, mostly villages ignore it if you don't flaunt it and as long as you make babies, whatever else you do is fine. Again, provided you are low key. Religious towns set around temples are a different story, priests can get meddly and the villagers themselves often grow to be more of a sticker for religious morals.

Celestial want people to marry and have kids within their caste to keep the fields and the army manned, and so that's reflected on their religious outlook, with the powerful getting away with trangressing the code, but also oportunistic rivals can use this transgressions to attack them when convenient. So you can do whatever you want if you are smart enough not to get caught.

That said, while they are annoying about who gets to fuck who and when, they give zero shits about the 'how'. Celestials have a in setting equivalent to Kama Sutra discussing sexual pleasure, conceive as something to be given to the groom and bride at their wedding night. They also aren't shy about nudity and public baths are a thing.

>>74520011
Nah, it's been a long thread.

>>74520024
That could work. We need to also see what disadvantage an Araxian Bull would have compared to a horse.

Like how Dwarven Wargoats suck in open terrain and are used mainly as mounts in mountainous terrain.

>>74519657
Urakese have zero concerns about nutidy and the body as they are 90% sylbari and sylbari have the same bits under their clothes. They also into wrestling and other full contact sport so they aren't shy about touching. They also don't get 'married'. Urakese clans are big families so all adults are expected to care about all children. Reproduction is a mystery but it's definitely not done by pairing, so marriage isn't a necessary concept on their society. Partnerships can form and they are based on affection more than sex and raising kids, and there's a less strict definition of who you are 'dating'. You like to spend time with X, so you do. That's that.

>>74520022
Why wont you be more precise? Im sure no one would call you out for lying, or hold anything against you if you say the truth.

>>74520073
i hope you know you are feeding the troll?

>>74520041
Yeah, i feel like its been longest one because of all this unneded drama.
Someone needs to create new one btw.

>>74520073
Sure. I drew basically all the rivers on the map for example in thread 1.

>>74520090
Fuck you, you told me to leave the project so I'm not making the next OP. I made enough already for you ungrateful shits.

>>74520087
We are already past the bump limit, there is no difference now.
>>74520097
Thats literaly something that could be done by anyone else. What else did you added?

>>74520097
can't be considering I drew 2 of them.

>>74520106
Nobody told to leave the project, manchild. People told you to go cool your jets, and some other people assumed you were leaving cause you said project went to shit, and said bye to you. Either you are leaving, in which case

>>74520110
Anything could be made by anyone.

You name one thing and I'll name another I made. We can go 1 by 1 to see who runs out first.

>>74520123
In which case, please do leave. Or you are not, in which case stop shitting the place up with your manchild-crying

>>74520106
Ok, so someone else will be OP. Maybe this time they won't be such a faggot like you are.