>>88573764
> Lore Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bRrxdD1BMLmcMDFeszwqg2Rcjrt8DDo7tjAxoOB6KQ8
> Rules Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1njSLKKQFa9ri4w3A_09JW78uXFbFOFf8XVjncxPYIC8
> Unit Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rcleQtrT4Q0INiBW50-kq2ZXWJ-cjLOeVTLTJg_oX5E

> Bonus thread discussion
>>88570801

At least wait till the last thread is on page 10, faggot.

>>88573764
What is Napoleons plan?

>>88574233
Plan ?

>>88574252
He has to have some goals

Tried shortening overlong entry, how's this:
tireur d’élite cavern climbers
> Originally Mountaineer club, started climbing the Parisian rift
> Started carrying guns after club president bit it
>Members started getting hired out as specialists. Now here.
>Only infantry unit with artillery keyword
>Regularly sets camouflage on fire with cigarettes
>Natural predator of skycaptain cheese.
>RANGE FOR DAYS

>>88574571
Why wont it post my picture

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>waaah bolt actions

My brother in Allah, it's called using an ammunition and logistics system. The auxiliary and non-combatant units would be used for this, it's been talked about since back when the Tractor Engine was introduced in the last compass.

>>88574571

Anyone up to do another update to the compass?
I was doing it before but won't have time for a while to get another one done.

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Meatwars walked so Expedition: Agartha Descent could run.
Shroom Farmer below Ambitious Evzone?
Text same as previous compass.

>>88573838
>uses pages
>isn't a catalog chad

>>88573578
Yeah, as cool as the top of a gigantic Eiffel Tower jutting out of a sea of cloud sound, I think having such a huge part of the underground being "open air" kind of defeat the point of Paris sinking into a cave. I think just having the Eiffel Tower be a bigger version of itself raising up to the ceilling where it connect with a giant elevator digged all the way to the surface work better.
To me, it would be kinda like a napkin stretch over a table, then a hole open in the middle of the table, the center of the napkin start falling inside and is cut when the table "contract" itself. So now you have napkin that folded up and the center piece below.

God I sound like a schyzo

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Reposting cuz I dont knwo how to ling the other thread

For the Ottomans, I sorry Istambul Collapsed? Into the ground? How? What sunless sea style? No mater I live this concept.
>fight both the necromancy and the constant uprisings
Pure Kino!

Ottoman Necromancer (Top above Austor-Hungarian?)
>Embraced the situation, its the only rational thing to do.
When live gives you lemons kinda guy.
>Cen reassert control over lost and neutral undead units.
>Passive heals all dead units
>When an enemy unit dies, has a chance to reanimate them and add the to his ranks.
>Would march to take Vienna but has his hands full getting Istanbul under control.

NecroStanbul Survivor (Under Russian Imperial Guard or next to Leopold)
>One of the last uncorrupted members of the Sultans Army.
>Mediocre shot excellent melee, nimble, not cheap
>Wears armor so the undead don't bite
>Conflicted moral, if he dies he'll become undead, doesn't look forward to it.
>Would rather be stationed at Balkan Fighint the uprisings.

The Uprising put dooooowner (Just a unit da doesn't have to be in compass)
>Loves his job
>Gone mad with power, cuz no Authority over sight.
>Heard Istanbul collapsed, didn't realize it was literal
>Oh another Uprising? lets put it doooooown
>Got chased of by some Serbs, tried to hide in a cave, got lost
>Excellent shot from all the uprisings he had to put down

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Previous Compass, for reference.

>>88574593
Hey Rules Anon here. go to the rule document and suggest some thing will ya? Cuz I have no fucking clue how to do logi in a fun and interesting way outside of
>Counting and book keeping every shot
>Having players set up a base and keeping in ming how many shots they have left, along side managing other recourses

>>88574986
>For the Ottomans, I sorry Istambul Collapsed? Into the ground? How? What sunless sea style? No mater I live this concept.
France collapsed underground.
Istanbul brought the underground to the surface.

>>88574986
Actually working on a far rational unit
Metal Courier
>*clank*
>Mostly used as setpieces
>Immune to deep drunk
>Can be weaponized in an emergency
>Report all cases of sentience to the manufacturer
Working on the Picture.

>>88573764
> a few days of shitposting actually accomplishes more than months of *paid* Turnipfaggotry.
Huh.

Just stopping in to mention that fucking "Expedition: Agartha Descent" is the best fucking name for a game I've ever heard and following it with another subtitle as stupid as "Scramble to the center of the earth" is beyond kino.

The fuck is even happening here.

>>88575025
umm I actually just coppied and pasted the entire think so ignore the question.

>>88575113
>Turnipfaggotry
what?

>>88575134
/tg/ is doing something fun for once in a blue moon. I personally love these threads that build settings
>t. Anon who made the Meatwars Compass

>>88574986
>introducing straight up magic
Napolean beig obnoxiously more the focus then the actual lost land itself as well as Paris being autistically focused upon was a stretch in of itself, but introducing straight up magic fucks with everything.

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>>88575269
>but introducing straight up magic fucks with everything.
And that's a good thing.

>>88575019
Also what's with your obsession with black powder despite the zulu wars and boer wars having both sides use catridge related weapons. Literally no one was using muskets by the time of actual colonization except some arab africans in the middle of the desert. Mid-1860 saw muskets almost entirely phased out with breech-loaders and by the 1870s.

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>>88575269
Cuz people turning undead isnt magic on its own.
>you dont have to call it magic...

>>88575269
It was kinda obvious that the lost land would be less focused on if we started doing the colonials first ; no one want to step on the actual underground faction toes.

>>88575335
>Cuz people turning undead isnt magic on its own.
Being Husked is clearly a natural phenomenon of being exposed to the primordial forces of the deep by your psychotic Sultan.

>>88575269
>Straight up magic
Dude one of the first things to be added to the compass was magic flying sky elephants that went PROOOOOT.
The lost land will get it's own compass anyway, with focus on hyperborea's suffering machines and all that jazz
Hell, we don't even have to call it magic. Call it "Argarthan arts" or "Deep Sciences"

>>88575372
I prefere to call it
>natural phenomenon of being exposed to the primordial forces of the deep
Someone add that to the Lore doc

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>>88575266
turnip28

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>>88573764
Harriet Tubman
Next to Underground railroader, either side is fine.

>New Leader character for American Abolitionist Armies, introduced in 4E
>Provides morale and mobility bonuses to abolitionist troops
>Sacrificed her youth and vitality scouting routes through the layers for other escapees
>Actually became pretty built from traversing all those caves
>Shining beacon of hope for the underground railroad.

>>88575641
ohhh yeah I remember this. Looked cool. Also you are telling me there were people shilling it?

We do still need someone to pick up adding stuff to the compass since chartguy said he'd be busy for a while.

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We need someone to create the map generating system.
We need someone to repost or just recreate the units sheet in the excel file
Come one /tg/ pick it up, get it done

>>88575859
>We need someone to create the map generating system.
Alright, let's start.

FIRST
We have already decided on different terrain types, and the game is played across several "battlefields" (Like 3d chess, was it?)

WE MUST CODIFY

>What, EXACTLY, are the possible terrain types.
Before we continue with anything, I think.

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>>88575654
>Literal underground Railroad faction
Based as fuck.

Buffalo Soldier, right under the Sepoy
>Abolitionist Elite Infantry
>Grizzled as hell from the Indian Wars/Civil war
>Stupid high Morale saves
>Springfield rifles hurt like a bitch
>Gain Bonus damage to cave beasts
>Probably one of the few units that keep Abolitionists Viable

>>88575942
To me, you and your opponent would each place one terrain layer, and then the third would be randomly picked
They could be stuff like
>Fortified settlement
>Cave river
>Fungal Forest
>Ancient ruins
>Tectonic Hotzone
>Gas Corridors
>Metal veins
>Crystal formations
Honestly a good place to start would be looking at IRL caves and seeing what types of environments happen there

>>88576036
>To me, you and your opponent would each place one terrain layer, and then the third would be randomly picked
I agree. That sounds like a great way to balance things and still hold interest.
Perhaps an objective on each of the player's chosen tiles, to incentivize the enemy trying to breach enemy-advantageous territory?

>>88576145
I'd say each faction gets a table to roll on for their objectives
With some having larger tables than others to make predicting them harder

>La Ombre only has two objectives
>Ascension, get the majority of your army to the highest possible tile
>Destruction, Kill as many enemies as possible

While someone like the Ottomans could have things like
>The Walls must hold: Keep enemies off your home terrain
>Suliman's revenge, capture a river island tile
>The Dead walk again: Ressurect units in your army a total of x amount of times.

With the bigger, more diverse factions getting larger lists to roll on, which makes them harder to predict, but also means it's harder to 'spec' into one specific thing

>>88576213
Possible each faction has a "Defensive" objective ("Protect the McGuffin") and an offensive one?
Would mix up tactical situations.

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>>88576036
>>88576145
>>88576213
>>88576260
All great ideas. Now lets just create a prototype. Something were we can playtest. Make it just one layer for now and flesh out some factions a it more. From the Unit dock the only fleshed out ones are the brits (kinda) Ottomans, and there is a shit ton of Balkan Mercenaries for some reason?
>How big should the board be?
>How will terrain work? Any obsticles?
>How will cover work? How many types of Cover?
>How will the symbols for all that stuff look on the tiles?
>How will inter layers transit work?
The objectives for now can just be destruction, or capture the flag + King of the hill. Scoring points, nothing special, just to game test.
>also who would Moral or Will checks be rolled?
When taking casualties ok... what else?
Also people go and submit your ideas to the rule book and the Unit sheet

>>88576495
>>How will terrain work? Any obsticles?
Line of Sight is ESSENTIAL for wargames. Obstacles are an absolute must.

>>88576502
Yeah I know but I have no idea what to suggest or make. I just want it to be simple and not slow down the game

>>88576634
>I just want it to be simple and not slow down the game
Done, watch this.

DESIGN GOAL:
Fast initial setup at the start of the game.

>>88576502
Units and some enviorment items have a 'light level'. If something is not inside light (Outside of a few exceptions, like nightvision/invisibility) Then they are treated as not being within line of sight, even when they're within range.

>>88576649
>Units and some enviorment items have a 'light level'. If something is not inside light (Outside of a few exceptions, like nightvision/invisibility) Then they are treated as not being within line of sight, even when they're within range.
Great mechanic.
I HEREBY RATIFY THIS PROPOSAL.

>>88576664
Thanks bro

>>88576649
Forgot to add
>Cover is treated with simple LOS rules. If you can see the target from the unit's perspective, you can't shoot at it.

>>88576677
Oh so its see not see? Thats fine with me. I expected people adding Half-cover and bonus to your armor and all kinds of stuff like that.
Feel free to write all your ideas in the Rules Doc. Its the first reply

>>88575687
Dude was making thousands a month for a while.

>>88577215
Thus the retardation of nu-/tg/ is shown

All this thread is shwoing is burgers unironically can't name a historical event that isn't WW1 or the civil war.
Or anything that happened in between other then the Spanish-American war.

>>88577419
>shwoing
embarrassing

>>88577419
don't worry europe will wake up soon and you can shoehorn some more of your irrelevant balkan bullshit into the compass

>>88577046
>Half-cover and bonus to your armor and all kinds of stuff like that
Maybe and forgive me for the double sin of mentioning both vidya and newcom have a system like in newcom games of no-cover, half-cover and full-cover? Except instead of to-hit modifier, cover gives a pretty big flat armor bonus?
If we assume a normal rifle deals 1d10 or 1d6+3 damage that's 30% and 33% respectively of a one-shot-kill without cover. If we give half-cover an armor bonus of 5 + whatever is needed to counterract the AP value, it makes our infantry take less than 4 damage ~85% of the time. Full cover would instead give a bonus 15-20 armor making it impossible to wound with normal weapons
This would also allow for big guns with big AP values, like cannons, to completely obliterrate both the full cover and the poor chap hiding behind it

Also makes it is easy to mark on hex maps - just put an overlay of a half-filled shield for half-cover and full shield for full-cover

I'll add this to the dock tomorrow if anons support this

>>88577466
*doc
I should get some sleep

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>>88577419
>Compass filled with Euro stuff
>3 american characters are made to balance it out
>REEEE MURICA MURICA
???

>>88577419
This is explicitly the Reconstruction period. Civil War is very relevant.

>>88574902
Land above sound the best to me. Throwing a timeline around, if anyone disagree, manifest yourself.
>Napoleon loose for the second time, sent to St.Helena where whatever happen, happen.
>France enter Restoration, King is back.
>After a few years, Paris and part of northen France collapse into the ground, dramaticly altering geography as the rest of the land contract to fill the space
>Part of Doggerland are litteraly dragged out of the sea, uncovering traces of ancient civ (beccause why not)
>British seize some ground, trying to understand what's happening and profit from the chaos
>Eventually, Paris make contact with the surface, lead to a revolution above, Republic established, they reclaim sovereignty of their lands
>British invade Iceland to gain an way to the depth
>Meanwhile French Republic build the great Eiffell tower to link Under-Paris and Orlean, new center of power on the surface

I know undead are ottos theme, but i think that while the under-paris is french hub in underlayer, they cant actualy proced from it straight down, because the paris catacombs are now almost as hazardous as some of the deepest layers.
It also opens way for background lore, where ottoman necromancer goes there as some sort of antihero to help with the countless undead

>>88577215
thousands of thread or like dollars? Im guessing treads

>>88574233
>>88574328
Whatever it is, i think he could be treated as overarching villiain, at least for colonials

>>88578091
I think it should be left up to mystery, Napoo already have enough focus as his. More like a "danger in the background" that a main focus thing.

>>88577466
Well better then what I had in mind. I support it. Maybe the Armor and AP system should be overhauled too? I think it was meant to be like 1 armor = something thicc or leather. 2 = construction helmets and that kind of stuff (even tho it didn't exist) 3 = half plate? 4 = conquistador styl armor and 5 = full plate. Stuff above being some uber armor like titanium or some shit. I dont know the penetration of those calibres but they would probably pirce all of that with ease. So I guess we could keep the curent armor system. what do other anons think?

>>88574233
Empire of Twin Suns
Wish granting anomaly
Go back in time
He probably has numerous plans.

>>88577960
First, can we pleaseee call it Fallen-Paris
Second, Does US really need to INVADE Iceland. Be a gentlemen, just send a heavly armed expedition. Thats more British like. They aren't Yankees.

>>88578228
>Napoleons plan are left vague to a point they retcon each other out
Writers knew what they were doing

>>88574328
Save what can be saved. His eyes saw what other can't see, the hand of fate must be forced. For no one know what lurk in the further and darkest depth.

>>88578240
The Danes were a relevant military power at this time. If the British wouldn't secure it, then the Germans (who were behind the original expedition in the Jules Verne novel) might get access instead.
You need to understand you're dealing with imperialists. 'The Great Game' is how they think.

>>88578240
Of course lad's, we aren't invading. Just establishing a security fort. To protect the locals from the danger that could come from below of course. The King benevolence know no end.

>>88578240
Fallen-Paris sound good to me.

>>88578048
Just cuz the have fallen doesn't mean they have to deal with necromancy. Why not some other theme? Like monsters stalking the streets and Fallen Parisians making deals with them. Be a bit more occulty.
>>88578048
As for the Ottoman necromancer, his hands are tied. He has to get his own country under control. Paris at least had more time to adapt. And he wouldn't really be helping the dead. As Necromancy is naturally evil. Tho I agree that its a cool idea to have characters move underground and pop out in different places.

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>>88578273
See >>88578274 Anon gets it!
Also pardon me for my lack of historicall knowledge, but if the Danes were a relevant military power at this time would they really just let the Brits invade? And not resist or ask any questions? Also whats stopping the Germans from doing the same after the Weakened Brits take it?

>>88578336
>Also whats stopping the Germans from doing the same after the Weakened Brits take it?
The German Confederacy was not completely unified or industrialized. It was a baby Germany, but still had ambitions to become a world power.
>if the Danes were a relevant military power at this time would they really just let the Brits invade? And not resist or ask any questions?
I'd assume there'd be a war. Those do tend to happen from time to time.

>>88578294
Occultism was popular in France at the time (and would be for years) so that fit. I think there is a great pride in being "civilisation" (as european, last of all the French, would not regard other peoples of the third layer as real civilisation) surviving in the depth. Also parisian cop/military patrolling the streets of the less savory neighbourhoods to put down whatever the dumbass playing cultist released this week.

The City of Lights shine brightly even below.

>>88578294
>Just cuz the have fallen doesn't mean they have to deal with necromancy
Thats true, but this idea wasn't inflenced by it just being fallen. Rather, there are largest catacombs on earth under paris, that (to my knowledge) even now are not fully mapped. In my opinion it kinda writes itself that something would happen there.
>And he wouldn't really be helping the dead. As Necromancy is naturally evil.
Thats true, but i meant it as more of "he knows how they work, he can destroy them"

>>88578381
Occultism was popular in general. It was a way to deal with a lot of the trauma at the time, from war or disease. Scammers would photoshop loved ones as ghosts and shit. Pretty awful, but at the time it gave comfort.

>>88578402
They are now mostly mapped out, but not everything is recent, there is entire sector that are too dangerous to access. There is reason they put solid safeguard in the visit, if you get lost in there and they don't know where you went/from where you entered, it's possible they never find you.

Talking about catacomb and Paris, a few years ago the cops found a private lounge there, complete with a bar and a cinema, apparently this belonged to a secret society. Litteraly went back to the place once the cops left (after putting barrier in place), took some stuff and left a "Don't seek us" note.

>>88578402
Something happened in the catacombs that probably caused Paris to fall to be honest.
>>88578381
Fallen-Paris brings Light to the Darkness of the underworld.

>>88578294
>Be a bit more occulty.
OK, metaphisicaly sinking of paris was recreation of masonic initiation rites on greatest scale posible. Because of this streets of Paris are semi sentient. Where one day there are streets, next day can be buildings. When you look back you can see you are in back alley etc. But no matter what the city always creates sense of scenic beauty, and place that are more used are more grounded.
And so politicians and poets stil meet at coffe shops, and men from all of Europe come and visit still beating heart of culture

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>>88576495
There no real reason to reinvent the wheel here. Just find a Napoleonic Wars (or some other war) rule set and make the changes we need.

>>88578832
we should probably go with a colonial ruleset if we're doing that.

>>88576495
I'd say obstacles should be numerous and large. There should be many different mechanics which encourage tunneling, with obstacles being only one.

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Unhusked Janissary, below the Montenegrin Duelist (which is misspelled btw)
>Not too sure how to feel about the husk situation
>Used for both pro-sultan and anti-sultan armies
>Will definitely be reduced to a husk either way

>>88577452
>irrelevant
Yes loke the US and mutts in general.

>Nobody picked up filling the chart.
You lazy shits!
Anyways, back. Doing an update.

>>88576495
>How big should the board be?
I suggest that each player's chosen board is relatively small, and the randomly-selected third board is fucking massive. Full table sized perhaps.

>>88581593
>Table sized
This always struck me as "A few squads" level game. Like Mordheim or Necromunda. And with those you don't want too big of a board

>>88581621
>This always struck me as "A few squads" level game. Like Mordheim or Necromunda. And with those you don't want too big of a board
My retort would be
>If we don't make this game the most retardedly epic wargame possible, we won't be doing it justice.

Though, differing game modes for small skirmishes and large campaigns have already been suggested.

>>88581636
I mean, you can get some pretty epic stories out of stuff like Battletech. And that's usually only with a squad of mechs and some tanks. Still, I'm all for there being an 'apocalypses' mode.

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Updated for the previous thread's contributions.
Doing this thread in a while.

>>88573370
>>88563317
Will add, but need a better 'jak for this now. The 'jak provided is WAY anachronistic, beyond even a "lol time travel" way.

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PROPOSAL FOR PLAYMAPS

Each player gets to design their own playmap. Their own personal playmap will be a white sheet, map or whatever they opt to use of the official dimensions we decide on.

They get to draw on said map, with the following colours.
>Red
Full cover. Terrain from roof to ceiling, high wall etc.

>Yellow
Half cover. Short walls, outcrops etc.

>Blue
Trenches.

These would be very easy to set up as you just unfold/unroll your playmat and you're good to go. (Can bring custom obstacles too, to fit, if you want.)
Possible rules as to the legal layouts. Like, a red obstacle can't stretch from border to border for example.
Thought to get the ball rolling.

>>88581747
>the fucking happy merchant
bruh

>>88582174
Have coin?
Well, friend, he has wares.

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Above the Analytical Engineer

>Camp Cook
>Burns upkeep for additional morale
>Supplies ran out weeks ago
>Knows what goes in to the food, doesn't tell anyone
>Orders are orders

>>88582269
>Mama mia!

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REJECT MODERNITY
EMBRACE GORG

>>88581747
I can try to cook up something at noon (euro hours) for the climbing enthusiath, "camo" might be hard to do, so if anyone got some backgroundless pic of drawn foliage/moss it would be welcome.

Also if someone want to replace the tiger brigade or want to it to go, feel free to do it, I don't want to cause a shitstorm over something minor.

>>88578832
>>88579305
Yeah... no

>>88580438
>Dualist
kek
So this is just like a weaker Husked Janissary thats basically a merk?

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ALMOST FULL, GET IN WHILE YOU CAN!

>>88580438
>Dualist
>(which is misspelled btw)
I noticed when I added it to the chart. I got a chuckle out of it because of just how fucking different the meanings are. That's what anon put, that's what's staying.

>>88582269
Your 'jak wasn't transparent. Got a different one,

>>88582928
All good mate. Its in. No shitstorms to be had, just making sure things are relatively consistent.

>>88581928
Ok but they should do this on a hex grid.
Im unsure about tranches to be honest. Since this will be played mostly online in 2d so checking LOS for holes and different terrain will be a pain.
If we want to do different heights we can maybe do z coordinates and shadow rule?
Shadow rules tlrd; if you are in the objects shadow you cant hit the top of it. So if something it 3 layers tall. you cant hit the unit on top if you are 3 hexes or closer to the edge. idk getting the ball rolling Im not rally happy with how this sounds.

>>88583136
idk man at this point keep it as Dualist, its funny as fuck

>>88583144
>Ok but they should do this on a hex grid.
I honestly like a hex grid idea, saves a lot of trouble.

>Played on a 1-inch hexgrid (Steal some Battletech mechanics perhaps?)
>Each player brings their own hexgrid, which they colour to their own tactical desires.
>Red tiles are full cover, yellows are partial cover, green is difficult terrain?

>Personal tilemap rules:
>Must contain a SINGLE area of contiguous, uncoloured tiles. That is, you can't create a tilemap with two or more areas entirely cut apart by red coloured tiles. The 'regular' regions must be connected.
>Uncoloured region must contain at least ???? number of tiles.

LARGE, MAIN BATTLEMAP
Each player takes turns placing hazards obstacles on the main map, before deploying troops on their personal map maybe?

Then, of course, the TYPE of map (global modifiers based on area type?) is chosen by each player for their personal, and randomly selected for the large main one?

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If the anon who did the climbing guy is here, gonna try to do the jak soonish using some Chasseur alpin drawing. That's the closest thing I could find. That's good for you ?

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So basically what I'm proposing is
>Each player brings one of pic related or similar, which they colour/paint however they want according to the rules of tilemaps.
>Then a larger version of pic related is randomly rolled/assembled by the players before the game starts?

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>>88583136
>Satsuma Ashigaru
>Cheap pikes or cheap muskets, your choice
>couldn't hit the broadside of a barn
>so numerous it doesn't matter
>all female for some reason

>>88583388
why are they calling it 5e when its just 2e version 2

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>>88583402
Blame weebs.

>>88583388
>YARI ASHIGARU!

>>88583388
Also, for placement, maybe between Rough Riders and Janissary? I don't know, they are imperialist but not particularly rational.

I might do one more 4e weeb one, but I'd like to actually do a wojack for her. Something along the lines of:
>side character for Heiress, and her foil
>interested in riches instead of exploration
>basically the Sancho to the Heiress's Don Quixote
But I'll make sure to actually try to make a wojack first.

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Heres some shit I created. I hate it but here it is.
>4 player map, Red, Bule, Yellow and Green start from the colored positions. Thats their spawn, this wousnt mean they are limited to bringing only 7 units.
>Everyone starts with 100Pts (points to make their army/squad with)
>Dark Gray is rock and can be dug trough. They have 3 Constitution. every time you dig up a rock roll a d10, on 10s you score 1 WP. You find aa rock or something idk.
>Light Grays are rough terrain. its costs 2 Sped to move over these. If you end your turn on one it will cost you one speed to get off it.
>Black is ravine. You can cross it unless you construct a bridge. To construct a bridge 1 tile long it will cost you 4 Construction.
>Light drovn or like sand brown is light cover it has orientation. if a unit is in a hex that has light cover on its borders it gets +5 to armor
>Dark brown is same shit as light just its heavy cover. Units get +10 to armor.
Some units start with weapons. If you want to give them a new weapon or a tool you need to buy it separately from to equipment section.
Thats all for now I guess. We can maybe move on to /quest if ther are interested people, after we make our armies. Try to keep some theme but there are no hard rules so lets just go for it.
Also lets say that units can go trough friendly units.
>If you wanve more then one worker working on something, only one needs to be adjacent to the tile he is working on. Others have to be adjacent to him for their stats to account too. they don't have to be adjacent to the. E.g. 2 workers are in a narrow tunnel one behind another their dig rate will be combined. Since therese only one worker class in the document that would be 4 for 2 of them, not counting any tools on top.

>>88583541
Oh yes and dimond ores have 6 Constitution and give 2 WPs every time they are mined. You can mine them infinetly. First to lets say 30 WP is the winner or the last one standing. You also get points for Killing enemies.
Upon board wiping a faction everyone gets 5 WPs

>>88583541
Seems like we're agreed on hexmap over either gridmap or open movement. That's a design element solidified.
>Rock features, ravines (down to lower level?)
Also reasonable.

>Difficult terrain
Also something we seem to be settling on. There will be difficult terrain in the end product
I hereby RATIFY difficult terrain.

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Mansure Armyman, direct left of the Janissary.
>Trained by Hungarians and French in their military institutions
>Knows how to use different rifles, can change his weapon to that of most colonial nations
>has no idea why Janissaries are here, they were disbanded decades ago
>works well with General Hoken armylists

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>>88583627
fuck, wrong image.

>>88583541
How about for every 5pts unspent in squad creation you get 1WP?

Here is some shit I came up with, if you dont wanna create your own army you can use this.
>Classic British Expedition:
>2 Hired Hand with Hammers and Shovels (they can have/use both right?) thats 30pts
>Sergeant Major 30pts
>4 British Army Privates

>Husked Hored
>20 Husked Ottomans thats 100pts

>Ottoman Combat Patrol
>Ottoman Necromancer 30pts
>2 Husked Janissaries that is 40pts
>6 Husked Ottomans thats 30pts

>Confused Fallen Bundle
>2 Old Serbian Revolutionaries 30pts
>Confused Serbian Artillery 30pts
>2 Survivors of The Fall thats 30pts (I can use them right? Didint someone say thay could be used as merks? Anyhow I find it funny)
>and I spent the remaining 10pts on 2 WPs

>>88583649
>points
I believe we're calling them "Dollars"

what if players get points to spend on terrain 'units' too that they can create the environment out of before deploying combat units

we could have just an entire compass for different rocks and walls and bushes features

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>>88583649
ummm sure. Also what >>88583655 said but who cares. WP are Meant to be Victory Points btw, I misspeled, Im glad the message got over kek. Also that would be balanced in this scenarion as all 100pts would equal 20VP? So I guess if you can score 10VP with no units more power to you. Maybe if other 3 factions kill each other then you win since you get 5VP per faction destroyed? hmmmm... kek

>>88583649
Wait, are troops individuals and not squads ? I though it was gonna be skirmish, smaller than Warhammer but still have squads ; something legion sized.

>>88583677
Victory points don't sound schizo enough.

What if we implemented some Go-like mechanic of 'Territories' where you get points for the number of hexes that your army 'Controls', as determined by borders created around where your units are located.

>>88583662
Suggest that to the map and layer builders. I can see that working as a scale.
>points to spend on terrain
Idk how I would balance that. Would be interesting I wound lie. But then maps would have to be more simple. which inst really a bad thing. But then again you ave worker units for a reason so idk Maybe they can create hard and or soft cover out of stone they mine?

>>88583681
Its more Killteam then Warhammer 40k. Also All units are presented as Characters, I though that was the thing we were going for? Whe npeople said squad based I understood like you control one squad or people

PSA on state of colonial factions, Austria-Hungary is still sitting at one unit and Russia, I mean, the Tsarists are now behind in terms of roster.

L’ombre aka Napoleon’s faction I would expect we can also fill in when there is a thread about the underground factions actually, since he’s one part soldiers and one part monsters of the deep.

Slight rant: Officials in the Qing Court see that the collapse of their nation is imminent, have no allies left on the surface, so are in deep with talks about allowing themselves to be a military staging ground for the Mu, if the Mu’s militant might can stabilize the nation by force. Thoughts?

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>>88583692
This is just a play test. So we can actually try out different mechanics and stuff and still have fun. Someone create a /quest thread if interested idk how to do that. How does rolling dice even work on /quest?
But I agree Victory Points isnt schizo enough.
How about Underworld Notability? UN
Or Agarthan Notability or Conquered Primordial Forces of the Deep
Also I forgot about light rules. We can add that in the next play test.

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The Egyptian Pasha, next to the Unhusked Janissary
>Hates Husks almost as much as he hates Turks
>Uneasy alliance with Balkan rebels and Ottoman defectors
>People have stopped trying to number the oriental crises
>Uses tunnels under Giza pyramid to fight the Sultan on two fronts
>People are starting to grow suspicious of his longevity

>>88583724
>L’ombre aka Napoleon’s faction I would expect we can also fill in when there is a thread about the underground factions actually, since he’s one part soldiers and one part monsters of the deep.
Its "La Ombre" and the original chart has Napoleon listed as stealing other factions' units, so they don't need many units of their own.

Noted on the AH and Russia sides though.

>>88583734
L’ombre comes from a correction I saw by a french speaking anon; so far all the comments I have seen on La Ombre say it is a poor choice of spelling

>>88583724
Austro hungary need more that for sure. But Im not gonna writte them, go get some Autro Hungary fan to do it. Russa has a nice little roster it could be used to create a faction but no one wrote it in the unit sheet to its like it doesnt exist. Someone go do that. I get the feeling or Russinas being like Ottomans just their husks are actually people. Like a numbers game. If Russia is moderate in that playstyle then Turky is Extreme

>>88583742
>L’ombre comes from a correction I saw by a french speaking anon; so far all the comments I have seen on La Ombre say it is a poor choice of spelling
Who cares about spelling. It was first written as La Ombre as a meme. We ain't changing nothing for no francophone nerd.

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>>88583724
Im sorry but what the fuck are Mu? Moo like cow people what the shit? Some HP Lovecraft kind of civ or some shit?

>>88583759
>Im sorry but what the fuck are Mu?
We don't know. We're just making shit up as we go, bro.

>>88583733
Inspiration for Ancient Egyptian themed mummified units (maybe Medjay?) when we do underground stuff perhaps. The first husks maybe? Would they have had relations with atlanteans

>>88583761
ohhh. I thought you already had an idea or were referencing to something

>>88583772
We are.
>>88575011
We're referencing the shit we're making up as we go.
Welcome to the club.

>>88583759
Check out the OG thread if it’s linked here, they are one of the major underground factions currently invading Hokkaido, Japan

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Samurai Saur Rider (Somewhere near the top close to the Satsuma Samurai)
>Rides a dinosaur into battle
>Having the time of his life
>Is somehow worse at melee than regular samurai
>Cool factor justifies absurd cost

>>88583786
HOW HAVE WE HAVE FORGOTTEN THE FUCKING SAUR RIDERS THIS LONG?!

>>88583388
>>88583407
we including this meme?

>>88583793
Probably cuz it’s just a bunch of goofy surface folk so far, the Satsuma Samurai are according to the guy that made em not exactly in Japan but a riff on the irl Satsuma rebellion of samurai

>>88583805
If you don’t like it, I can try to redo it. 4e is where female units would be added.

>>88583724
I thought about writing something for the Qing but thought there wouldn't me much beyond that they were sitting there seething at everyone while letting the country collapse around them (like irl), but that's a cool idea. Might give justification to a Sino-Japanese war once the japs are done with their invasion.

>>88583816
Just asking. Seems out of place, but that makes it seem perfectly in place.

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>>88583767
All sound quite interesting I approve.
But we need to either make them a minor but lore heavy faction or change their playstyle a bit from the ottomans. Maybe like Elite Undead units? That keep reanimating are hard to put down for good?

"First we get wake up by the primitives that call them selves French. We kicked them out of out crypts and went back to sleep as it was not out time yet. But now we wake one again, our people asking us for help. Our old was, our Religion, our Couture, all but gone. And to see that those who think they can rule us took out knowledge of Necromancy (or what ever we are going to call it in this setting) and started to whiled it as if they mastered it... That was enough for us to see that our time has come early, as these problems wont go away as we hoped" - Lord Pharaoh Ecropis

>>88583767
Either that or mummification is a technique used to prevent necromancers from resurrecting powerful kings. Perhaps because of a war between ancient Egypt and a powerful underground husk empire.

>>88583780
What do the y look like?

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>>88583949
they are perfectly human, just like you

>>88583870
>>88583885
Maybe some animal headed units that have "accepted the blessing of the ancient kings" to fight back the ottoman husks?
>pagan blessings are a necessary compromise
>eats the dead, prevents resurrection
>albanian on his father's side

>>88583793
There is a pterodactyl riders in the french units, got bullied into wearing pants but he kept his dino pet.

>>88578240
I prefer Sub-Lutetia who is sometimes used to refer to the parisian catacombs.
Speaking of that, an inspecteur general des carrières based around the idea of building or destroying terrain could be fun.

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Alright, it isn't finished yet because the dogshit site I used refuse to work and I had to assemble the jak on my phone, but a first try on the climber, I'll try to finish it with the cig and moss once out of work.

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>entire point of compass is for colonials
>straight up not-colonials in compass

who needs a coherent topic or goal anyways

>>88585016
Only non colonial I see is the Eldest Guard

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So what should go in the bottom left? Something of the highest rationality and exploratory skill/interest. A giant drill machine? An intelligent automaton that can explore the depths without worrying about the deep drunk? The Maxim Gun?

>>88586233
A cannon. Just a single cannon + crew

>>88586233
You know what, here's some descriptions for those.

The Maxim Gun
>OP
>Proof colonials are broken
>Whatever happens, we have got The Maxim gun, and they have not.

The Intelligent Automaton
>Explores the depths without suffering from the deep drunk
>Can function as a single unit expedition
>Able to do everything
>Somehow well balanced
>Nobody's sure if it's become fully aware or not

>>88585016
>who needs a coherent topic or goal anyways
Where we're going, we don't need a damn thing.

>>88586475
Why not. Make it extremely american, like the American Gun Club of Verne's novellas

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>>88581747
>>88584516
Alright, much happier with this one. You fags think it fit close enough for the climber guy ?

>>88587279
nice dick shrooms
I like it

For real though I won't be around to update the chart all the time lmao

>>88586707
Too steampunk to be a serious proposal but
>Explore the depths on his own
>Tireless
>Who built it ?

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>>88590197

Given how popular Under-Paris is, obligatory Haussmann.
The Baron
>made Under-Paris into the City of Lights
>also made it impossible for monsters to barricade the streets
>give buffs to terrain like you wouldn’t believe, severely nerfed in 4e
>For the last time, he’s NOT German

>>88578240
Well, there is gonna be a pretty sizable hole in northern France. Could be that the brits take advantage of the chaos after the fall of Paris to send some explorers down. By the time France has recovered, the North Coast is mostly held by British troops, like the Norman Invasion , but with less violence and in reverse.

>>88591701
The brits never really wanted to fuck around on the continent, so it feels a bit out of character. But since this is a Vernian setting, I don't think we really have to worry about realism.

>>88590197
if you wanted to rework it you could make it so it only follows preprogrammed routes and occasionally walks straight into a wall.

>>88590865
What's a German doing in Paris?

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>>88590209
>Rise of Legends
Based.

>>88591701
We discussed earlier about what the above of fallen paris should look like. Honestly feel it would kinda defeat the point if it wasn't in an actual cave

>>88595622
It'd be cool if a piece of Hyperborea fell down to where Paris used to be.

>>88574233
Crashing this land. With no survivors!

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>>88595622
>>88595746
5000 years in paint recreation of the Fall of Paris

>>88595622
But if we have a cave we don't have the Eiffel Air Tower whose top stands amidst the clouds which float over the site of old Paris. Plus no way for airships to get down there.

>>88596230
But you get the Space Elevator Eiffel Tower. Plus maybe the crust was fragilized in some spaces, leaving big holes for air ship to pass while preserving the feeling that the third layer is inside a "cave"

>>88590865
Well someone had to lead the rebuilding of the city after the dammage the colapse caused. Don't know if he should be on the compass though, enough frog as it is.

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>>88586707
Hi, same anon as >>88575055, your idea is cool too. Here is the picture.

>>88596197
Okay, this is fine.

>>88596197
>Layer contraction
Lmao who come up with that shit ?
I like it

>>88590197
That could be a good one to include on later charts, maybe for the Lemurians or one of the others. Maybe we should do a general underworld dweller chart later on? For all the shroom farmers, stinker gorgs, etc.

>>88596425
That was the plan, yeah. We made the original chart, we started working on the surface world chart (YOU ARE HERE), and we were going to work on the underworld next.

>>88596425
I think the Atlanteans (Atlans ?) are the more technological one. I guess you could make it less steam powered and more litteraly clockwork powered. As in there is a mainspring that need to be recoiled regulary. But getting ahead of ourselves.

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>>88583136
>>88581747

The Paulistæn Golden Syndicate

>accelerationists conquerors
>hates americans and british
>born from a clockwork industrial complex of são paulo
>syndicate of racist inventors and occultists
>american separatists and pioneers
>declared war on germanic industrial complex, now retains great power over the hyperborian industry.
>"friends" with ottomans and sky people.
>uses any means to achieve the goals of creating the paulista empire.
>Industrial espionage and human sacrifices
>using clockwork technology powered by lemurian occultism, both undead agony(psychic power) and enslavement
>explore The Deep only to find weapons and energy sources.
>non dvcor dvco (I am not conducted, I conduct)

>>88596521
Real fucking Rational

>>88596521
Brazil is the strongest country in the world !

>>88596561
ONE day The Paulistæn Empire will be the strongest country in the world !

>>88590164
What your using to update the chart ? I could ty to do it with gimp at home if you give me the font name.

>>88596902
>What your using to update the chart ? I could ty to do it with gimp at home if you give me the font name.
Gimp.
Arial Bold for the unit names, Cantarell Bold for the text. Whatever font size for the text that fits in, typically around 14-16 for the text and whatever for title.

Text border made by path from text > create layer below text > select from path > grow selection by 1 > bucket tool

>>88597235
Cool, thanks, will do it in a few hour once I'm back from work if no one else did.

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>>88574233
find napoopan

>>88597478
>Burn it !
>The little "London 60 miles" stone
Kino

>>88596197
>LAYER CONTRACTION
>The layers fucking eat shit like hungry maws now
WHAT GOES DOWN
DOES NOT COME BACK UP WITHOUT GREAT EFFORT

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bros what if Hyperborea and the Firmament aren't actually the top layer
what if there's more above it that we just don't know about
what if the unknown celestial creatures from above would consider US the degenerated lemurs if they ever met us

bros...
I- I don't like it bros

>>88598701
>No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older worlds of space as sources of human danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of life upon them as impossible or improbable. It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days. At most terrestrial men fancied there might be other men upon Mars, perhaps inferior to themselves and ready to welcome a missionary enterprise. Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.
UUUUUULAAAAAAAAA!!!

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>>88598790
>Turns out the Hyperboreans were actually protecting the lower layers from the horrors above
>And we killed them

>The Firmament is real, and physical
>There is no outer space, its just another layer.
this setting is beyond kino

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Figured I'd do another ottoman troop that's more period appropriate, seeing as the Janissaries were disbanded (executed) in 1826. Also I feel like these guys wold work better with the whole theme of the ottomans being balanced around having shitty cheap units.
The Bashi-bozuk, right of the Husked Necromancer
>Used to take payment in plunder, nowadays just works out of a love for the sport
>More of a terror weapon then a genuine military force
>#1 reason players complain about morale damage
>Immaculately maintained body hair, all things considered

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>>88598813
>>88598975
>The Finno-Korean Hyperwar was real
>The last survivors of the war became the Hyperboreans vangaurding the earth
KINO KINO KINO

>>88598975
>The entire thing is a slightly out of sync loop, the top layer leads to the bottom layer, only the top is us in several centuries time
>the bottom leads to an identical copy of (game) contemporaneous society who have no idea that there's anything above or below them

>>88573764
what if the source of The River Alph is the Angara River? it moves from the surface to the 2nd layer through Lake Baikal.

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>>88598813
>>88598975
>>88599408
>>88599474
>Both time and the layers are a loop, feeding into each other
>Above is the ruins of hyperborea, humanity's evolution after thousands of years
>Below are the ancient powers of old, humanity before it was humanity
>The future (or past) Finno-Korean empires are the endpoint of humanity, their collapse degenerates us into lemurs
>Going above or below means you're travelling through time, forward or backward depending on how far you go
>Artificial time travel is real but the Fourth Layer is supposed to be the hard barrier to prevent the timeline getting unintentionally fucked (so no travelling from Hyperborea/beyond to Actual Ancient Lemuria)
>Not actually clear if it's a looped timeline or identical layered "realities"
>Napoleon's plan is to end the cycle, nobody knows what will happen if he does

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>>88599629
>Napoleon's plan is to end the cycle, nobody knows what will happen if he does

He's not a villain because his plan is evil.
He's a villain because we don't know what happens if he succeeds.

>>88599629
I knew 2ed shitty timetravelling plot would lead to bullshit like that eventually ! God dammit Brand Fronzo, you fucking hack, why did you have to write that in ?

>>88600333
>Julius was right and the Sky is below, the ground above
Fuck me

>>88599372
>Skeletons with Moustaches
please tell me that the Ottoman faction consists mostly of skeletons with moustaches

>>88581747
I think max Irrational/Exploration should be Wagner
Dude was insane spending a third of his life making a 15 hour cringefest

>>88600598
Honestly not a terrible choice.

I will update the chart in few, if some anon was kind enough to link the missing addition so it's quicker, it would be welcome.

>>88600948
Sure.
>>88583388
(lmao)
>>88583627
>>88583733
>>88583786
(Saur Rider is a must!)
>>88587279
>>88573370
>>88596521
>>88599372

And make sure to double check in case some were missed.
Also feel free to cut descriptions short. Better it be readable than exactly what some anon posted.

Have we at all discussed the Italians? Seeing as stromboli is one of the main entrances to the fourth layer and this takes place in roughly the same period as the Italian unification, surely they should be a faction, at least more so than the Spanish.

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>>88601554
>Have we at all discussed the Italians?
we don't talk about what the italians have been doing

>>88601554
From the Lion Guard description, they got their ass fucked in Ethiopia (as in real life lmao). Could be playing the opportunist and letting other people use their underworld access in exchange for a tax.

>>88601635
Since the volcano is within the territory of the former kingdom of the two Sicilies, the peninsula could have been united under the Sicilian king using Austrian and German armies allied to him in exchange for underworld access.
The guy could be sitting in Naples ruling his country like a modern day oil baron, keeping it together using underworld bucks alone.

>>88601836
Italian unification bro...it's ogre...

>>88601554
>>88601611
>Get assfucked
>Start throwing Southern Italians into Vesuvius
>Catholics tell you to stop
>YFW your nation state shatters into Volcano Pagans and Holy Crusaders

>>88602608
>Volcano Pagans
Italian Volcano Pagans sounds just about right for the setting.

>>88602819
What should they be themed after? I feel like making them Volcanic romans would be a bit hacky. Should they be connected to the Existentialist?

>>88602852
>I feel like making them Volcanic romans would be a bit hacky
Earlier 'modern day oil baron' was mentioned.
Modelling the Italian Volcano Pagans after some whale oil tycoon / robber baron aesthetic.
Like if the robber barons were volcanic pagans loved by the people instead of fat useless businessmen

>>88602904
>Italian Oil Barons using the blood of the mountain to lead Italia to greatness VS The Swiss Gaurd and Catholic partisans
Fund it.

>>88600333
My God...

>>88601410
Don't forget about >>88586707
>>88575055
>>88596276.
Come to think about it, we can establish that resources/artifacts are carried to the above world by railways and overseen by automatons/thinking engines.

>>88603031
>we can establish that resources/artifacts are carried to the above world by railways and overseen by automatons/thinking engines.
The original chart
>>88575011
Has "Clockwork Thinkers" on the left which are apparently dredged up from underwater and have no known origin

Subnautical robot mining expeditions in the deep to fuel human industry?

>>88602904
I was imagining something more along the lines of
>Ludicrously rich Sicilian king runs a mercenary police state while squandering his money on giant megalomaniacal projects like a victorian UAE emir
The volcano thing seems pretty cool but what are they sacrificing people to? The volcano itself? Some historical pagan god? Or something else entirely that dwells underneath?

>>88603090
>The volcano itself? Some historical pagan god? Or something else entirely that dwells underneath?
Yes.

>>88603090
>>88603135
What if the Stromboli underworld gate closes if the volcano goes hungry?

>>88603254
>What if the Stromboli underworld gate closes if the volcano goes hungry?

>Paying volcanic blood tithes to keep a gate to the underworld open
based

>>88603263
Its necessary, if the gate closes the King's whole business goes under, and once he can no longer pay his mercenaries the sacrifices' families will have him

>>88603090
It is known as 'The Lighthouse'. It is the only guide downwards into the Underworld. Those who cannot pay its toll are forever lost.

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>We don't talk about what the Italians are doing
no fucking wonder

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>>88573764
>>88596521

I forgot to remove the background.

>the paulisteans really like coffe

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Holy shit, you fucks are verbose, alright done, had to change some spots since many people wanted the one left to Janissary, climbing boy fast first so he got it. Hope everyone happy with their placement.
>>88596521
Tell me the spot and I do it.

>>88603031
Same as for >>88596521 give me a spot for the courrier and I will do it.

>>88603667
Rational imperialist, it's already full, but they can easily fit in the rational explorer in the corner.

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>Ludicrously rich Sicilian barons feed unholy volcano gods so the deep stays open.
>Gotta keep the shipping lanes running!
>Magmatic special abilities create area hazards

>>88603821
Oh, right

>Italian Volcano Pagans
Extreme rational exploration.

It is perfectly rational to feed unholy lava abominations to keep your own pockets flooded with wealth.

>>88603821
>>88603741
>>88586707
>>88596276
Your the three last ones, decide among yourseve, I finish supper and put a end to this God forsaken schizo chart

>>88603869
>I finish supper and put a end to this God forsaken schizo chart
God forsaken is right.
There are no gods where we're going. Only darkness.

The three slots are all relatively close. We can always fuck with shit and move stuff around after.

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>>88603090
>>88603328
Fuck it, I made the guy

The Tyrant of Naples

>Monopoly over Central European underworld travel
>Abysmal stats, buffs mercenary units
>Don't ask about the sacrifices
>Convinced golden chins are going to become a trend

No real space for him on the compass left but I guess a spot in max rational is the closest it would get

>>88603883
Yee…because the next thread is about the layer-borne

>>88603821
oh you beat me to it

>>88603821
>>88603891
How did the god damn Italian faction manage to swoop in at the end to be the most based fucking god damned surface faction in literally the last 2 seconds of the chart

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>Husked Ottomans
>Italian Volcano Pagans
>Samurai on dinosaurs
>A literal underground railroad
>Fucking British knight LARPers

>>88603926
Turn out the surface dwellers where as crazy as the rest

>>88604064
May Hyperborea cleanse us all

>>88603821
>>88603891
Going with this >>88603821 jak to keep the informal "Corner get ornate pic" rule. But The Tyrant of Naples is a rad name, I'll use it.

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>>88604112
Can we keep the golden chin still?

>>88604198
Holy shit yes.

>>88604198
>Gold-plated volcano pagans
Sounds good to me.

>>88603667
> Canuck Asbestos Miner is as irrational as the goddamn Italian Volcano Worshippers are rational.
Kek, love it.
Damn, I was actually going to finally paint the Lannister troops I got off ebay as "Knights" of Britannia but there are just too many interesting factions, this has to end up being a real thing.

>>88604339
>this has to end up being a real thing.
30 pages and counting in the main doc

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After nearly paying the bloodprice by breaking a hip falling from a broken chair :
It's done.
Forgive the small mistakes in font here and there
>>88603926
Don't forget
>Litteral ceiling French
>Enough tribals auxiliaries to make Rome proud

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>>88604457
Its glorious. The surface is RATIFIED.

Glory be! Where does the road lead next Anons…

>>88604631
Underground.

>>88573764
Shot in the Dark
There was nothing on the dining car that I wanted. By the next morning there would be nothing on the whole train that I wanted. For now, my only desire was to walk and look at the world above ground. I had spent too long underground and had begun to feel the nothingness again. My cabin on the Orient Express to Calais has been my only environment for many days now. Man shouldn't merely exist in the world the way a dog does. Looking, never seeing. Moving, never progressing. I entered the dining car and regained a small bit of myself by indulging in my traditional British sensabilities of appreciating sensable decoration and then appreciating the women. Ah, but I'll describe the decoration first, for my morals demand that I must settle the business before the pleasure.

>>88604684
Nobody could miss the jade green color that dominated the dining car's tasteful furniture. Egg-shaped and prominant, it was the ultimate, and final, statement in eastern decoration. I loved that the color didn't blind the observer the way opal or pearl colored decoration did. Jade green was stuck on the backs and seats of chair cushions and cast over the table in a cloth, as well. The cutlery, tastefully cradled in a jade colored napkin. The dinner candles jutted with the forgein beauty of its color, only a few of them were shakily lit in this late hour of my habitual wanderings. It contrasted in perfection with the fine, red-hued laquored wood that dominated the walls, chairs and tables in that regal seating arrangement. The tables were secured quite handily to the wall and the chairs operated on rails, that could be twisted down with a crank to secure them steady in case of unsteady winds. I had learned they also did wonders for the posture. Lanterns of brass hung on the walls, with modern light bulbs illuminating our charmingly human affairs. I felt the beauty radiate from that light, reach its apex at the steady length of its illumination and, before it could fade to darkness and cloud my thoughts with

unpleasant recollections

meet the curvature from the light emmanating from the next light bulb. Inbetween those many lights was all the delights of civilzation and the civilized to eat in peace. To speak in peace. To enjoy the company of companions, loved ones, just existing in light. I see one passenger stop cutting his steak to chuckle at some comment from his companion. Now I observe a passenger holding a spoon correctly and supping something from it, she looks out the window at the darkness. I could not have felt safer. Now, dear friends, quickly. To the women, I say.

>>88604699
The first two will be described for completeness, they were with their husbands and both were fatter than Shah of Iran. Their clothes were just modest and their hair the same. I felt no animal betrayals of my morals at their observation and neither should you.

The third was a fabulous beauty of eastern complexion and dress. I'm unsure how many dresses it is tasteful for a lady to travel with, but this woman certainly had the finest to match the decor, light red accents on a robe of jade color, with a cloth covering her hair in the same color as the later. The strand of dark hair that had fallen into her eyes would make a lesser man fall in love. It was straight in every place it was exposed. She was reading a newspaper in a language I didn't know, likely Arabic. Her eyes curved like the blade of a sword and her mouth was the pink color of Turkish delights. I smirked at my own observation, for indeed, she seemed to be a Turk. At least, she had the look of her husband, who certainly was Turkish, if that fez-hat and moustache was anything to go by. He wore an ascot in the same scarlet as his fez-hat. He was the most disappointing part of her, entirely. Then I look to the woman sitting at the table in front of her.

Finally, now. There was a girl,
she travelled alone. Her dress was pink.
Looking at her, it made me think.
her wavy hair, had just one curl.
I looked again, and my eyes sought,
on her left cheek, a beauty spot.
Dazy gaze, a simple thing.
On her hand, there was a ring.
On the right, a little pearl.
That's all I saw, about the girl.

Her eyes meet mine and I regain myself. I approach and say, "Bonjour, mademoiselle. Je m'appelle Conrad Fennington Beauchamp. Est ce que l’on pourrait dîner ensemble?"

"Oui, en fait. Mes dîners sont soliteres dans ce train. Viens-tu de Paris?

"Non, London."

"Oh, you're an Englishman." Her english was quite German but her French accent was perfect. I guessed she was Austrian but kept that to myself.

>>88604717
"I share the citizenship of my father, my mother was from Belgium. Do you prefer English?"

"It is the language I am currently mastering, so your company will provide both excellent practice and an abatement to my loneliness. Garçon! Allez, s'il vous plait! What wine do you drink?"

"Montez-Blanc. What food do you eat?"

"The cooked kind. The doctor says my appetite could rival the steam engine for consumption."

"Madam, your appearance is evidence of the total opposite."

"You, I like. I suspect I shall not regret accepting your invitation to dinner."

So we talked. The conversation was lovely, sometimes clever, and I learned a great deal about this lovely woman. Her name was Elizabeth Heilig-Shultz he was the beloved nurse maiden of a young master-of-the-house to an Austrian noble family. She was on the Orient Express, with me now, travelling from Istanbul, like me, to London, to finally see the capitol of the British empire. She travelled at the expense of her young master, who had only recently inherited his estate. This long vacation of hers was considered a reward for some action she had performed in her duty that she would not clarify to me, but she seemed quite proud of herself for it. I don't like to pry, so I didn't. As for me, I could only avoid speaking of my reason for being on this train for so long.

>>88604730
"I'm travelling from the front in the Sino-Japanese conflict. Istanbul was merely the closest port of call and now, thank God, I can return to London." My comment illicited a serious look from her. "You are a mercenary, Herr Beauchamp?"

I chuckle, trying not to sound rude. My recent adventures had given me a rough look, including many scratches on my face and a black eye that was healing well.

"I'm a fellow at the historical research division of Cambridge college. I'm a medicinal psychologist by trade."

"What?"

"I'm a doctor, sort of. A psychologist at Cambridge university."

"You did not answer my question."

"Never. Especially after meeting several of them."

"Is Oxford a school of medicine, Herr Beauchamp?" I was grateful she changed the subject.

"It's not, though I wish to God it was."

"How do you fit into their curriculum, exactly?"

"Exactly?" I paused. Be careful, Beauchamp. "The study of Lemurian artefacts is my specialty." This statement changed her demeanor. I will always love the look of sudden interest from a pretty woman, especially Ms. Heilig-Shultz when she said, "Ooh! I've only heard of the most horrible ones that come out of Fallen Paris, but I know they're finding them all over now! Isn't that exciting?" She gasps, placing her right hand with the neat pearl ring in front of her mouth. "Have you made some new discovery in the far east?"

>>88604742
"I don't dig them up, madam. I simply observe them." She watched me with interest and I felt a silent, 'well, come out with it!' coming out of her eyes. "I've told you that I'm a psychologist, yes? I was given permission to observe the use of these artefacts in the theatre of war. Their use on human beings. I recorded their abnormal psychological effects for scientific study."

Now, don't think me a cad for saying these things, but Ms. Heilig-Shultz was really very pretty and I had been throughly exhausted from my journey of the past several months. A long journey to the orient, linking up with Chinese forces, watching them get annihilated by the Japanese, it was all very tiring. I should have been using my eyes and my ears, not my lips. I was not worried for foreign spies stealing my notes on the psychological side effects of use of the 'lead spiggot' artefacts. They were not unusual in the theatre of war in these times and used to enhance a fighting unit's ballistic output. What I *was* worried about was the discovery of two Lemurian 'mummy tongue' artefacts I took to smuggling in my luggage. The private trade of any Lemurian, Muuan or Atlantean artefacts were highly illegal, whatever customs office discovered them could expect a fat bounty posted by almost every major government in the world for the recovery of these items. It didn't matter that one of them was going to legitimate study in Oxford university, a common cabin thief could retire at age three with a few 'mummy tongues' under his belt. One would suit me just fine.

"That's amazing, Herr Beauchamp. You were at these battles, then? Between the Asians?" I nodded. "Did you fear for your life?" I nodded. "Surely you did not have time to record your notes and fight a pitched battle, sir."

"I admit that I could not multitask as you say. I recorded the notes after our defeat. Everything of interest happened after our defeat."

>>88604755
"At least you escaped with your life, Herr Beauchamp. How did you survive?"

"My feet, a fast boat, then my feet again."

"Oh, you brave soul. Fighting those yellow hordes must have been horrible. Where did the action happen?"

"Lüshunkou. I mean, Port Arthur." We had just finished our dessert course and were enjoying a casual amount of libation. My share of the vine was greater than hers and I had begun to feel it, candidly.

"Ms. Heilig-Shultz, the fruit of the vine has begun to affect my awareness. I feel the call of Morpheous."

"As do I, Herr Beauchamp. I am so sorry that my trip is coming to a close tomorrow, Strasbourg is my destination. Why have I not seen you in the dinner car in these past days if you were coming from Istanbul, like me?"

"My constitution has disallowed it, ma'am. As you can see from my face I took some damage during combat. I've ordered my food sent to my personal cabin."

"Car 3?"

"Why, yes! How did you know?"

"A lucky guess." Her giggle made me see a few new colors. "Your cabin is only two down from mine and I thought I saw you from the open hallway a few days ago, in passing. I'm slightly shocked at the late hour, Mr. Beauchamp. Had I elected to travel with an escort he would find our late conversation to warrant intervention."

"I shant worry to offend a fictional chaparone if you don't." I sup my wine. "The only other passengers enjoying their conversation that yet remain in the dining cart are those Turks behind us."

"I shant worry to offend them, either." She lowers her voice and leans towards me. "I do so distrust the Turkish people, Mr. Beauchamp. I shall never feel safe around them."

"I have a similar sentiment. The Express solely considers their money, it seems."

"Then I shall imagine that nation funding our fine dinner tonight. To Constantinople!" She raised her glass.

"To Constantinople." Our toast was pleasant. If the Turks heard us, their quiet conversation was uninterrupted.

>>88604772
"May I see you off tomorrow, Ms. Heilig-Shultz?"

"I've enjoyed our conversation immensely, Mr. Beauchamp. Yes, you may escort me about the train station until your schedule sees you depart. You may meet my aquaintence, Hans, a butler to my master. He's scehdeuled to pick me when I arrive."

"I suspect he shall not share your conversational capacity."

"What?"

"He won't be as pleasant to speak with as you are."

She giggled again. God, save that giggle and the empire. "You never know, Mr. Beauchamp."

"May I escort you to your room?"

"That *is* bold, Conrad. I'll see you tomorrow morning."

"Good-night, Ms. Heilig-Shultz."

"À bientôt, Mr. Beauchamp."

Watching her go made my mouth bitter. With no coffee to trick myself I just let the bile form in my stomach. Had I said an inappropriate thing? No. No, certainly not. She said she would see me tomorrow morning and had not recended my invitation to escort her. My stopwatch read slightly after midnight and I was startled that one of the employees hadn't schoo'd us off. I waited five minutes and departed for my cabin. All I left behind were the dishes and the Turks.

I returned to my cabin and went through my mental inventory. My clothes and affects were in the overhead luggage compartment, safe and secure. I insist that my luggage be no higher than my waist. Thought my luggage frequently got curious looks, I could tell none of the people looking have had to march through wilderness with *their* luggage. Nobody had been into my belongings or even my room. Toiletries were secure. I had one remaining can of my prefered brand of Handsome Rick's shaving creame remaining. That would have to change soon. It was the only brand that allowed me to shave an injured face in relative comfort. Checked the hallway right, nothing. Check the hallway left, notice Ms. Elizabeth Heilig-Shultz's cabin. Lights are out. With the door closed behind me and the business concluded, let us get to the pleasure.

>>88604789
From my coat I withdrew my Gasser M1870 pistol. The chambers were opened individually to verify the integrity of the ammunition. The 11.3x36mmR calibur ammunition kills what it hits. It was placed under my pillow, pointing perpendicular to the train tracks. A quick check verified the mummy tongues were safe. I looked about the cabin. I threw open my curtains and looked into the darkness for only a moment before closing them again. I was quite out of things to do and so had to confront the spectre of sleep again. It is not one of my favorite activities. I dress for bed and lay down. I make a habit of not looking at my watch when trying to sleep. The time is totally unknown to me when a gentle scratching comes from my cabin door with the softness of a meowing kitten. A man would have to be asleep in order to have it interrupted. So I wouldn't say that my sleep was interrupted. Ah, my *struggle* was interrupted. That seems appropriate.

My robe is thrown about my person and one Conrad Fennington Beauchamp was walking towards his cabin door. Thinking back on this incident now, my actions made little sense at the time.

Perhaps I had been asleep for less than an hour and so did not realize my ridiculous actions. Nor did I fully realize the sleep-addled mind that, even now, was reasoning against me. You see, for some reason I thought Elizabeth Heilig-Shultz was at my door and needed to see me urgently. I had no evidence for this, perhaps some dream had left its illogical rationality upon my waking mind. When I threw open my door I was smuggling contraband, fleeing a warzone, haunted by things from the underearth, thoroughly sleep deprived and, my least favorite state of being, completely unarmed. My intruder was more shocked than I was. The sound of a metal resistance in my sliding cabin door; I only thought later it was probably lockpicking tools still jammed into my cabin lock.

>>88604807
The lock and door mechanisms were lovingly smooth and offered almost no resistance, which is why it was unusual. Despite my initial advantage, it was wasted when the Turk acted first. He grabbed my right arm with his left hand and produced a two-shot .22 calibur pistol with his right hand. It's a fine weapon for assassination, the .22 calibur makes almost no noise when discharged. He gently placed it to my throat and said: "Don't scream, Mr. Beauchamp. Put your hands in-" I never discovered where he desired my hands to be.

It is common for an assaulter to extend his arms too far from his body, like a duelling sword. Yet, anatomy teaches us that the center of strength comes from the core of one's torso. The man's mistake came from when he pressed his pistol into my neck and began to step forwards. He had created too much momentum towards me with the thought of overwhelming me with implied action, primarily the pistol. Yet, one must always guard ones actions from counter-action. His weight was moving towards me, and my head was forced backward from the press of his pistol on my neck. My head was already reared back, and his, moving into position. His left arm was also all wrong, I pulled him towards me in the same instant I drove my head forward with all the force that nature could give an animal who is locked in sudden death with no retreat. I could feel his right arm on the left side of my neck when my forehead connected with his once handsome, now ruined, nose. I wasn't sure how far he had pushed me back into my room, but he flailed little as he stumbled backwards.

>>88604824
The fine red laquored wood of the dining area extended to cabin 3, my cabin hallway's decorations. The Orient Express had thought of almost every amenity for its passengers, and a helpful hand rail had been placed upon the opposite end of the cabins in order to ease the walks of the elderly and infirm. It was upon this tasteful railing that the Turk stumbled into backwards. His head fell almost directly on one of the brass fittings that held together the wooden rails. When he struck that railing there was no sound of wet, tissue, bone, cries, gurgle, snapping, or any of the other sounds I tried to forget. A simple *tiiiiing* was emitted by the brass knob. He slumped down the wall, his head bent much too far forward. His guilty gaze fell to the carpet, unblinking.

I am completely sober now. Checked right down the hallway, nothing. Checked left down the hallway, a light is on in a cabin. One, two down from my own. Ms. Elizabeth Heilig-Shultz's cabin. I grab the Turk by the ankles and drag him into my cabin, where his presence makes moving about quite difficult. I slide the door shut and feel the metal resistance again, opening the door quickly to remove the tool from my lock, I shut it again. Only now do I notice that the Turk has changed into some black colored apparell. I search for the pistol and only panicked for a moment before finding it in the hallway. It's new, shining steel and small enough to fit in the palm of a man's hand. I put it in the pocket of my nightrobe. The Turk had not bled excessively, thank God. Still, I laid several towels under the back of his head as the life was pouring from his nose. During my work I rub my forehead and notice blood on the back of my hand. A quick check with my mirror reveals I am bleeding from my forehead. Another towel pressed to stop the bleeding and I see it is a nasty cut, likely from one of the Turk's teeth. Once the bleedings have stopped, I quickly exit my cabin door and lock it.

>>88604840
As I'm moving to the cabin of Elizabeth I think that I did not check the Turk's pulse. He may still be alive. No time, no time.

I open Elizabeth's cabin with no effort, it's unlocked. Elizabeth herself is laid across her bed with her face towards the bottomless night from the window. Below her is a woman moving about in the wooden drawers of her nightstand. The Turk's wife hears me but does not turn. She says something in a language I don't know. I notice the smell of a nice perfume, will never forget the smell in my life. Stepping in, I close the door behind me. She says something again but first she hears a small click from behind her and turns. I'm thankful the second bullet from her husband's pistol does not misfire and caught her in the left temple as she was turning to me. I don't know if she registered my face or not, but it was terrible for me to see such beauty with a hole in it. A quick check of Elizabeth reveals two identical holes, one in her forehead, one in the scalp. The Turk's wife has a pistol similar to her husband's, with two spent bullet casings in it. I don't notice anything anymore because I was inside of my head, thinking. Desperately.

>>88604858

How to explain three bodies to the authorities?
You can't, old boy. You'll be executed by firing squad.

I'll say I found Turkish spies. It might be true.
You can't prove it. Do you want to roll the bones that they were really spies? Place your bets! The wager is your life.

Dump them off the train. Through the windows.
They'll be found eventually. Then will come the questions to staff and passengers. 'Oh, who did you see the victim talking to? Describe him. Gray hair? Facial injuries? Let's check the passenger logs.'

Shoot the conductor, stop the train, jump off and make for Kolkata.
Do try to be serious, Conrad. Say, what about the tongues?

No.
...

I can't. They've never been used on a person before.
Yes, they have. Nobody remembers, but they were. Once upon a time. In Lemuria.

We only have the inscriptions to go by. Could unleash something *else* on the world.
Well its either that or the firing squad, old bean.

It was hair-raising to transport a dead man by the shoulders from my room into Elizabeth's. Taking the mummy tongue from my pocket felt like handling explosives. It was a small thing, a rock with etchings in it. The language is a different shade of blue every time someone observes it, with each new perception bringing a new hue to the eye. One of the guides made the mistake of looking at it too much. Just blinking at the stone, staring at it. Thousands of times. A look of absolute wonder on his face as his superior officer blew his head off to retrieve it. I make sure not to look at the stone as I place it under Ms. Elizabeth Heilig-Shultz's dead tongue and closed her mouth. Send a silent apology to her spirit, a silent prayer to God. A quick return to my cabin with not a soul in sight. I cleaned what little blood was on my carpet, dumping the soiled towels out of my window. I went to the cabin with the bodies in it to grab the towels there and replace my own, so as not to arouse suspicion.

>>88604870
Re-entering that room, the tongue in place. Waiting for a moment of horror. All of them.

Unmoving.

It might have been the most terrible visit of my life. My Gasser pistol, nor my eyes, left my cabin door for the remainder of the night. Thinking I heard something was the worst part.

When the morning light came I almost went to the dinner car without getting dressed. I nodded to a few of the passengers who were about their morning routines, hoping they didn't notice my eyes flittering like bird's wings. Looking for something I didn't know or might have already happened. Noticed another lockpick tool on the ground near my cabin door, that disembarked via the window about three seconds later. I had an injured face yesterday so nobody lingers on my new forehead. I wander the train, leaving the dinner car for last. The other cabins are ok. Nobody is screaming. Nobody is panicked. No vacant stares, emergency stops, questioning employees, horrors from the deep earth or other...signs. I wander car 3 until nobody is in the hallway then I stop to knock on Elizabeth's door. No sound. I decide to move to the dinner car.

The people are at their breakfasts. Here, a woman quiets her whining infant. There, a portly gentleman samples something with goose eggs in it. He does this while speaking to his wife and gets a little on his chin, laughing about the misstep. A group of four young men lean close to each other, conversing quietly. Everywhere are the people at their normal lives. I should have liked to join them, actually. Stark dread brings about a hungry belly. Where to sit?

>>88604889
"Bonjour, Monsoir Beauchamp. Comment allez-vous?"

>>88604912
At my left elbow, sitting. She is close enough to bite me. Dines alone. Nice smile. Two beauty marks. Perfume. Silent scream. "Good morning."

"Won't you join me for breakfast?"

"Yes." I sit opposite her. Aware that my shaking hand might set off the Gasser in my coat pocket if I can't control it. I hoped I was pointing it at her belly from under the table.

"Did you sleep well?"

"Oh, yes. Et toi?" I'm not picking my words anymore.

"Moi aussi. We may have fallen into the arms of Morpheus, but he saw fit to give me no dreams, good or bad."

"Good."

"It's more neutral. Are you well, Mr. Beauchamp? Oh, your forehead! I don't remember that one, how did it happen?" The tip of her blue tongue brushes her lips. "It looks fresh."

"I'm fine, thank you. The scratch was embarrasing so I- I used makeup to cover it. Would you like breakfast?"

"I'm not hungry." She leans towards me. "Our late dinner filled me up. Are you sure you're well?"

"I'm just. I'm sad that you're leaving. Your stop is soon."

"Ah! Yes it is, but I wanted to talk with you about that. Come, escort me to my room, sir and I'll leave no mystery for my new idea."

Oh, we got up together. Oh, why did I offer my arm to her?

>>88604924
She explains as we side-step through the growing crowd of the dining car: "My tour promises to be along one and I hope I would never impose upon you, but I must admit I had the most marvelous thought about you last night. Would you, if you're not opposed to the idea, would you escort me on a tour of England? Now, I don't want you thinking the Austrians are a forward people or that we lack propriety, but I so enjoyed our time together last night I just thought, 'well, why not?' I have about ten more months left to go on my tour to spend anywhere I wish before I am due to return to my duties in the house of my master. My expenses are chiefly food, all other matters can be handled by my allowance. You've just come back from a war so the university might let you take a small vacation, eh? Why not travel with me for a while? You can show me the country of your father and I can show you the wonders of Austria, if you've never been. Even if you had, you'll find I'm a far superior guide than any of your previous aquantances. I hope I'm not rushing us into anything and I respect the distance of our sexes. You may call me Elizabeth by the way, but only privately. You seem like a terribly interesting man and, well honestly, I've had such an awful time in Istanbul with a mere escort that I would much prefer to adventure with a man of your...experience."

She opens the door to her cabin and the nothing I see terrifies me. No Turks. No clothes. No blood. "I'm sorry, am I being too forward, Mr. Beauchamp?"

>>88604933
All color has left my life since I went beneath the Earth. How would the surface be any different? "Not at all. Also, please, call me Conrad."

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this setting is the best thing to come out of /tg/ in years

Give me another space and I'll write one for them, too.

>>88605195
I feel like a "Knights" of Britannia or Italian Volcano Pagan would be good places to go.

>>88604947
Can we get this in a doc linked in the 'Recommended reading' section of the main doc or something?

With Colonials done, let's do a non-binding poll on where we should focus next:
>Lemuria (Sixth Layer)
>Atlantis (Atlan on Fourth Layer, Atlantis on Fifth)
>Mu (New Mu on Third, Old Mu on Seventh)
>Hyperborea (First Layer)
>Sky People (Probably on multiple layers)
>Malcomites (Unknown Layer)
>Neanderthals and Deep Folk Tribes (Third and Fourth Layers)

We may need to group some together. Like Malcomites and La Ombre might share a chart. It's probably best if we complete these with the least amount of charts, as this project will only have momentum for so long.

>>88605484
Malcolmites have something to do with Lemuria per the document.
Also, I thought the plan was to do an underground compass next?

>>88605638
Well, pretty much all factions are underground, so that's not very specific.

>>88605484
I want Hyperborea!

>>88605484
Hyperborea would be pretty fun.

I don’t believe the Malcolmites need their own thread desu, however my vote is for Mu as they have really arcane and evil vibes going on. Will allow for more exposition on the weirdness, horror, and unnatural nature of the layers.

May be more wise to do a general thread for the underground next which is also not very specific. This thread was technically for the colonials but it was open ended enough to allow ideas that gave exposition but were not strictly faction focused. Doing the same for the underground to have that creative space where ideas can knock around may be better than just doing faction threads now. Once those two are done tho, could see faction threads.

>>88605876
There's definitely not enough of them to warrant their own entire side of a compass. I picture them as sort of a small faction that's mostly relevant through #deeplore and implications. And, within the kayfabe, probably an in-universe author's pet faction.
>>88605976
That's what I'm thinking. The Colonials/Royalists compass definitely seemed to be losing steam toward the end, so we might struggle to complete a third compass if it's too narrow in scope.

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Gunny
>FROM THE HALLS OF MONTEZUMA
>Bolo knife wargear is pretty much mandatory
>Walking Full Metal Jacket reference
>Defense buff makes local unit too angry to die

>>88606386
DO YOU SUCK DICKS?

>>88606402
>Where are you from anyway, private?
>Sir, Mammoth Cave, sir!
>Holy dog shit! Mammoth Cave? Only whores and horrors come from Mammoth Cave, Private Caveman, and you don't look much like a horror to me, so that kinda narrows it down. Do you suck dicks?

>>88606480
Now I'm imagining a version of McNamara's Morons where the US tries recruiting a bunch of Morlocks or Neanderthals to serve as US infantry.

>>88606497
Roosevelt's Retards, a cheap melee option meant to be meatshields for your AEC and Rough Riders

>>88605484
The Hyperboreans and their cycle seem like a great time to detail the "metaplot" of the setting.
Have one of the Axies be "Entropic>Stagnant" while we detail the past and how two factions from the Hyperwar became one people

>>88606513
>Used as meatshields
>Forcibly sterilized if they survive long enough to make it back home

>>88604457
We doing outside chart ones like the previous chart?

>>88605484
I think a general u derground would be a good idea, basically Third Layer shropm farmers, Neanderthals, stinker gorged, etc. Could throw in some representatives from the other factions too. And once that's done we tackle the Lemurians or Atlantis or Mu.

>>88606801
I'd kinda like to, but I think we're all running off the "we completed the chart" high.
If we did, I'd bump Eldest Guard to overflow for Irrational, bump Modern Major General for Imperialist, and possibly bump either Heiress (mary sue that she is) or Rakkad (chad that he is) for Exploration. Dunno about Rational, but it should be someone SUPER rational. Maybe Teddy, or a variant thereof?

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Late to the thread but wanted to contribute
Emperor of Great Qing
>The East has fallen
>Delved into Mount Everest to prevent empire from collapsing, probably accelerated it
>Mechanically the most interesting faction in the game but only played by autists due to the fact you have to read Sun Tzu to play them right

>>88599629
>This would also explain the deep drunkeness as your body and mind is being subject to temporal and spatial forces it was never meant to experience

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>>88599848
>Napoleon will either make every man a God, or make every man a pile of squirming Lumer-Shoggoth meat

>>88607301
*Lemur

>>88599848
The best villains are the most unpredictable ones.