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Were you to travel the stars, across this vast universe, no doubt tales of a mighty warrior race would reach your ears. Many speak of the Saiyans with awe and wonder, marveling at their power and aspiring to become like them. Others speak in hushed tones, of the fear and despair in facing the warrior race in battle. But one thing all agree on, is that standing against the might of the Saiyan race would spells certain doom. Many have tried, several going as far as to invade the Saiyan’s homeworld of New Salda. Yet every invasion has failed, defeated by the Saiyans and their most powerful warriors: the golden-haired Super Saiyans, and the green-haired legend who leads them. But once more they march, leaving their home behind and advancing into the heart of their enemy’s territory. Which side will triumph, and who will perish?

Welcome to Saiyan Conqueror Quest, the story of an alternate timeline in the greater Dragonball world. Currently it is Age 749 and you the players control Karn: once an ordinary Saiyan warrior with a meager powerlevel of 2,830. Throughout your many adventures, the “Dragon of New Salda” has grown into the radiant symbol of Saiyan might. Now as a PTO general with a powerlevel of over 34 million, and close friend and confidant of Lord Freeza himself, Karn has become one of the strongest beings in the entire universe.

Character sheets and other info:
https://pastebin.com/u/GrandDragonQM
Archive:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Saiyan+Conqueror+Quest

Quest rules are as follows:
>20 minute voting windows from posted time, pick ONE option when voting(unless otherwise noted)
>Dice rolls are all best of three, only correctly rolled dice pools will count
>Crits are 100 on a d100(a 99 or paired rolls may net you an extra bonus)
>Crit fails count -only- if no roll passes the DC, or if two different 1s are rolled which will OVERRIDE even a critical success, resulting in a catastrophic crit failure
>Write-ins are both allowed and encouraged
>That said, they can and will be shut down if too out of character/metagamey. With 140 episodes behind us, Karn now has a well-established character
>I can change any of the above rules at any time for any or no reason
>Have fun

SCQ will usually start every Saturday at noon Eastern Standard Time, and run throughout the weekend. Also, for updates or schedule changes you can find me on twitter @GrandDragonQM, which I try and keep as up-to-date with scheduling as possible

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ms9YQiOUPSc

Current Arc: The Great War
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>>4466682
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>>4466682
Previously on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:

After ascending to Super Saiyan Three, Karn battled Golden Oozaru Vegeta, then Primal Vegeta until this newfound form faltered. The next day Karn saw Freeza off before speaking with Dr. White, who informed Karn the Bloodstone’s shards had filled his body and would have to undertake dangerous, time-consuming operations to fix. Which Karn agreed to, and while in a medically-induced coma came face-to-face with the Demon God, Mechikabura. Whom Karn had a pleasant chat with, the demon even apologizing for his people’s attack on his Towa. Once reawakened, Karn witnessed his youngest son Karn Jr nearly go Super Saiyan Three in a temper tantrum. But later that night his son was nearly abducted! Thanks to Karn’s quick thinking and Guldo’s Time Stop, Karn Jr was saved! And as we rejoin Karn, the whole team has now entered your room.

Wherever our enemies may hide!” Guldo shouts, leading the chant.
“An’ no mattah what traps they may lay!” Jeice continues.
“The Ginyu Force will save the day!” Recoome shouts, all five flaring their auras up in perfect sync.
“Ginyu Force! All together!” Captain Ginyu shouts, his team all posing.
“Recoome!
“Burter!”
“Jeice!”
“Guldo!”
“And Ginyu! And together we are!”

“THE GINYU FORCE!” they shout as one, Karn Jr watching them all from Meloka’s arms wide-eyed.
“Thanks for the assist.” you say, giving them a Saiyan salute. “Still not quite feeling a hundred percent.”
“We’re just happy you’re back up an’ at ‘em!” Jeice says, the force relaxing their poses as one. “Good t’see yer up, mate.”
“Indeed!” Ginyu shouts, loud as ever. “Everyone’s been worried about you since the news broke. Especially Lord Freeza.”
“No kidding.” Recoome says. “Him and King Vegeta both have been really scary lately. Maybe you should go talk to them?”
“That’s probably for the best.” you say, walking over to one of your training uniforms and getting dressed.

But what do you do?
>Visit Freeza, show him you’re no longer healing up
>Find Vegeta and let him know you’re up and about
>Get back to your students, see how they’ve been progressing
>Just walk around the ship, so everyone you meet will see you’re alive and okay
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>4466687
>Instant transmission back to the previous thread
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>>4466687
>Visit Freeza, show him you’re no longer healing up
>Find Vegeta and let him know you’re up and about
>Instant transmission to both as necessary
>Bro hugs for all
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>>4466687
>>Visit Freeza, show him you’re no longer healing up
Let our bro know we’re ok
>>4466689
Always a treat to see you
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>>4466687
>>Visit Freeza, show him you’re no longer healing up
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>>4466687
>Find Vegeta and let him know you’re up and about
>Visit Freeza, show him you’re no longer healing up
I don't like making our friends worry.
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>>4466699
HOLY CHECK!
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>>4466699
>>4466690
You gotta pick which one you’re going to see first
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>>4466707
Then let's go see Vegeta first. He's young and probably stressing the worst.
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>>4466707
Vegeta since he is probably in the gravity chamber right now.
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>>4466687
>Find Vegeta and let him know you’re up and about
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>>4466690
>>4466692
>>4466697
>>4466699
>>4466709
>>4466716
>>4466727
Find Vegeta and let him know you’re up and about wins it. Roll me a single d100.
DC: 60
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Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>4466731
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Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>4466731
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>>4466739
Yeah!
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Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>4466731
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>>4466736
>>4466739
>>4466753
61/100. Narrowly made it, writing.
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We're all agreed on keeping the crystal goop as a souvenir, right?
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>>4466687
“I’m sure they both have been under a lot of stress, especially with everything that’s been happening.” you say, pulling your arm braces on. It feels strange not having the Bloodstone between your arm and the armor, but it’s something you’ll have to get used to now. “You ready hun?”
“Yeah, I’ll come too.” Meloka says, your wife pulling her armor over her head.
“Aaaaah! Ahhhhh!” Karn Jr calls, raising both hands upright.
“Of course you can come.” you say with a chuckle, walking over and picking your son up before turning back to the Ginyu Force.

“Hopefully Lord Freeza will relax whe...Wait a minute.” Ginyu says, head tilting as he looks at your son. “Is it just me, or is his hair golden?”
“Guys, this is Karn Jr.” you say, introducing them to your son. “He was born a Super Saiyan.”
“Born? A Super Saiyan?” Burter asks, the entire Force crowding closer to see your boy. “Is his transformation permanent, or...?”
“As far as we know.” Meloka says, your now-dressed wife walking over. “He’s gonna grow up to be someone special.”
“That’s for sure.” Ginyu says, reaching down and laying his hand on your son’s head. “When you’re older, if you want to be a member of the Ginyu Force, I’ll always have an open spot just for you.”
“AaaaAAAAA!” Karn Jr says, waving his arms as you chuckle. You say your goodbyes, then reach out telepathically to your crew about what happened so either they or some of the robots can clean up the bodies, then focus. Reaching out with your ki senses you find the man you’re looking to, and holding onto your wife and son teleport. One momemy you’re in your room, and the next you’re on the plains of Sanghelios by the Saiyan King.

“HAAAAAAAAA!!!!” Vegeta roars, unleashing a powerful blast of energy. No doubt he didn’t know you were coming, firing at the space you’d just appeared in. And with only a single moment to react you grab your wife and son, leaping aside.
“SHIT!!” you shout, narrowly dodging the massive beam of golden energy.
“Wait what?” Vegeta shouts, ending his attack almost immediately. When he does he sees you, his mind piecing what just happened within seconds. “Karn? You’re finally awake?”
“Hey Vegeta. Good to see you haven’t been slacking off.” you say, the two of you clasping forearms. And you can feel it in his grip, he has certainly gotten stronger. “And being down for a few weeks hasn’t slowed me down either.”
“Forgive me.” he says seriously, catching you off-guard. “I had no idea us sparring would have caused what happened to you. I’m so sorry.”

This is, unexpected. How do you react?
>What do you mean? That was the Covenant’s fault, not yours
>Neither of us could have know what was happening to me, it’s not your fault
>Forget that, you went Primal again! Have you finally gotten control of it?
>I forgive you? What did you do again?
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>4466814
>On the contrary, you probably saved my life when you put me through my paces like that. I probably wouldn't have even felt anything wrong until much later.
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>>4466814
>What do you mean? That was the Covenant’s fault, not yours
>If it makes you feel better I should have noticed something was wrong and gone to the doctor first
>So we can split the difference and say I was a dumbass again.
>>4466820
This.
>Besides, its better to find out with allies around instead of the battlefield, can you imagine the headlines if I got defeated by a Grunt?
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>>4466820
This
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>>4466814
This >>4466820
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>>4466814
>>On the contrary, you probably saved my life when you put me through my paces like that. I probably wouldn't have even felt anything wrong until much later.
>> you went Primal again! Have you finally gotten control of it?
>>4466820
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>>4466820
>>4466821
>>4466826
>>4466832
>>4466836
Write in wins it. Writing.
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>>4466814
“The hell are you on about?” you ask him, Vegeta looking at you confused. “You didn’t nearly kill me. On the contrary, you probably saved my life when you put me through my paces like that. I probably wouldn't have noticed anything wrong either, until much later. So thank you.”
“I, uhh... You’re welcome?” he replies, completely caught flat-footed and unsure how to react.
“C’mon, this could have been so much worse.” you tell him seriously. “Imagine we didn’t throw down, and instead that stuff kept spreading in my body. I could have fallen in battle because of it, and died before anyone knew what was happening.”

“That would have absolutely crushed morale.” Vegeta says, already thinking several steps ahead. “This could have stalled out our assault, or hell even ended it entirely. Not to mention all of us who’re close to you. And Freeza... Speaking of, have you talked with him yet?”
“No, not yet.” you tell the king. “I was planning on talking to him next.”
“Understood. I’d better not hold you up much longer then.” Vegeta says, smiling to you but with an unfamiliar look in his eye. “I’m sure he’s eager to know you’re alright.”

The strange look doesn’t get by you, reaching out you manage to grab his arm and look him dead in the eyes.

“Vegeta, what’s wrong?” you ask him directly. “What aren’t you telling me?”
“He....” Vegeta says, then hesitates as if unsure whether he should speak or not. After a few moments he decides, sighing out and talking. “After he came back, and found you in that state, he was furious. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him so angry. If we weren’t there when he saw you, he probably would have killed the Doctor in his rage. After that he kept himself alone, staying locked inside one of the ship’s gravity chambers twenty four seven. I don’t think anyone’s actually seen him since.”

“I’ll go talk to him then, see how he’s doing.” you reply easily, trying not to show the worry you’re suddenly feeling for your friend. But no doubt Vegeta reads you like a book, reaching up and laying a hand on your shoulder.
“I can go with you, if you need me to.” he says, you thinking it over.

Well?
>Instant Transmission all of you right to Freeza
>All of you go to Freeza, but not teleport inside the chamber as there’s no telling how high he’s cranked it
>Instant Transmission there by yourself, meet him one-on-one
>Travel to the chamber with Meloka, but visit with Freeza alone.
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>4466928
>>Instant Transmission there by yourself, meet him one-on-one
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>>4466928
Ooooh boy, he's having a training montage by Disturbed moment.
>Travel to the chamber with Meloka, but visit with Freeza alone.
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>>4466928
>>Instant Transmission there by yourself, meet him one-on-one
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>>4466928
>>Instant Transmission there by yourself, meet him one-on-one
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>>4466928
>Travel to the chamber with Meloka, but visit with Freeza alone.
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>>4466928
Perhaps we should have telepathically let him know earlier. Soon after Karn woke up for the first time after spending two weeks in the Healing Pod. If Freeza knew he would probably no longer worry now. Maybe he still does not know Karn is okay?
We should meet him.
> Instant Transmission there by yourself, meet him one-on-one
Also be ready to transform into one of the strong transformations, as the Gravity may be set really high in there. So in transformed Karn will withstand it.
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>>4466960
>So in transformed Karn will withstand it.
So in transformed state Karn will withstand it.
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>>4466960
I imagine somebody turned on the loud speakers as soon as we woke up but the gravity is just cranked so high as to just nullify any actual soundwaves in his chamber.
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Rolled 91 (1d100)

>>4466930
>>4466933
>>4466943
>>4466948
>>4466953
>>4466960
Instant Transmission there by yourself, meet him one-on-one wins it. Writing
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>>4466982
I'm guessing that roll is for Freeza's Stress Training results, and holy Shit if I'm right he's been putting himself through his paces like crazy!
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>>4467002
I imagine he just went in still Golden and refused to drop the transformation. I really hope he didn't overwork himself while we were under.
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>>4467006
That would make being in the gravity chamber worthless, I bet he's in his 1st form training up his PL
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>>4467016
He doesn't sound like he's training to get any stronger. It sounds like he's just trying to tune out the noise.
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>>4466928
“Nah, I’ll go see him myself.” you say, letting go of Meloka with your left hand. “I’ll head over now.”
“You sure you want to go alone?” Meloka asks, you knowing what she means immediately. Dr. White had warned you to take it easy over the next bit, and keep from stressing your body by training in high gravity. But you’re not planning on training.
“I’ll be fine.” you reply, raising your right hand to your forehead as you focus. “I’ll catch up later, make sure the students aren’t slacking off when I get there.”

“I will.” she says, still seeming a bit worried.
“Aaaaaahhh!” Karn Jr shouts, waving his arms excitedly.
“Behave for your mother, okay?” you ask him, your son giggling at this. And wirh that said you focus on the single-largest ki you can feel on this planet, and teleport. One moment you’re outside, and the next an almighty force crashes down on your shoulders. Before you even realize it you’re down on your hands and knees, straining to hold yourself off the ground. “RRRAAAAAAA!!”

You burst into your Super Saiyan form, power surging throughout your body. Yet despite the massive increase in power, you still can’t lift yourself off the ground. Just how high is the gravity set in here?!

“K-Karn?!” Freeza shouts, and after a few moments you feel the gravity swiftly returning to normal. After several seconds of the strain easing off you push yourself upright, seeing your friend standing by the controls, shocked. “I-Is this really you?”
“Of course it’s me.” you say, sighing out and dropping your Super Saiyan form as you stand. “Who else would I be?”
“You’re...You’re really okay.” he says, his menacing aura swiftly fading from around him as he grabs onto your arm. “What the hell happened? When I left you were fine!”
“Turns out I wasn’t really fine.” you say, explaining to him what happened with your Bloodstone, and as much of what Dr. White’s told you about it. “But now I’m crystal-free, and in a few days I’ll be ready to get back into my own training. Speaking of, you’ve clearly been working harder than ever. Your power’s grown so much!”

“Has it?” he asks, you clicking your scouter on. And sure enough, the numbers don’t lie.

>roll me a d5000+5000
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dice+1d5000+5000

Here.
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Rolled 3904 + 5000 (1d5000 + 5000)

>>4467086
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Rolled 3544 + 5000 (1d5000 + 5000)

>>4467086
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Rolled 870 + 5000 (1d5000 + 5000)

>>4467086
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>>4467108
Wow
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>>4466791
>We're all agreed on keeping the crystal goop as a souvenir, right?
That jar of deadly Bloodstone crystal dust is sure looking very pretty, but I would rather keep it in safe now. There is a very young and very curious little Saiyan around that might poke that shiny looking jar if he gets near.
And if he pokes it off the table, this thing (the jar) will shatter.
It will unleash a cloud of deadly Bloodstone crystal dust, that little Karn Jr may sniff and inhale.
And if he will do this he will suffer from same problem that Karn just got healed from.
So this thing should be kept in a safe. Dr White should thought about putting it somewhere safer than a simple Jar on his desk, seriously.

>>4466966
>I imagine somebody turned on the loud speakers as soon as we woke up but the gravity is just cranked so high as to just nullify any actual soundwaves in his chamber.
Possibly. Freeza probably wanted to isolate himself. To focus on training his base power level to stop thinking about what worries him. So if there are settings for this he may have disabled such ways of communication in the Gravity Chamber. If something was super important somebody would come to him in there personally.
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>>4467134
That is a valid concern if we do decide to keep it around.
If only there was some way we could reform mineral deposits into a single crystal.
IF ONLY WE KNEW SOMEBODY WHO WOULD HAVE EXPERIENCE IN DOING JUST THAT.
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>>4467103
>>4467106
>>4467108
8904/10000. Most impressive, writing.
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>>4467141
Sorry for deleting my post. I noticed I made a spelling mistake.
True. That is a good idea. This thing in dust form is not alright, but turning it into one bigger Bloodstone could be interesting.
Would it work in some way more efficiently than before with its size increased?

Maybe it would be good to make 2 Bloodstone crystals. One little to put it back between our arm and armor, and the other one to gather rest of it into one large rock, so it does not lays around everywhere.

Though do we want to have Bloodstone again between our armor like we used to have after what happened with it during the Arbiter's explosion?

Also do we even need Darth Bane's wise advice for this?
>Just create very hot and very concentrated sphere of Ki Energy.
>Use telekinesis to lower the Jar inside of it, or just all that dust out of the Jar into the Energy Sphere.
>Maybe it will be hot enough to melt into solid single crystal.
>While this process will be going Karn will be focused on keeping all the dust together, so the wind or something does not scatter it before we melt it fully into one.
Could this work?
If not maybe just lower it (the gathered crystal dust) with telekinesis into some lava when we encounter it somewhere.

Also look at that exhaust in the Lucrehulk. Looks like it's hot in there. Maybe we can melt it there.
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>>4467184
Making it into a single mass isn't the real challenge. That's a simple matter of thermodynamics that we can probably do with minimal effort.
The actual challenge would be maintaining the properties the individual particles themselves have.
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>>4467197
You are probably right. Simple melting of the fragments could perhaps ruin its unique attributes.
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>>4467086
“I haven’t seen you in your base form in awhile, but I’m sure it wasn’t almost seventeen million.” you say, Freeza’s eyes widening a bit in surprise. “Looks like I’ll really have to bust my ass to catch up to you now.”
“Ohohoho, it would seem your time off hasn’t dampened your resolve.” Freeza says, your friend smiling again despite his clear exhaustion. “But let me give you something real to measure against! SHYAAAAAAA!!”

And in a flash of light Freeza transforms, skipping his second and third forms and going straight to his fourth form. Your scouter tries to measure his power, but as it ascends past the nine digits the computer can’t process it, simply reading ERROR.

“You know what? I believe I do feel stronger.” Freeza says, watching himself clenching and unclenching his fist as your jaw drops. If he’s nearly as strong as your Super Saiyan form like this, you wonder just how much stronger his Golden form is now. “I hadn’t realized until now that I have already spent several days in here. It was, kind of a blur.”
“Speaking of, just how high did you make this chamber go?” you ask him, as your friend reverts back down to his first form, swaying a bit on his feet. As you watch his eyes roll up in the back of his head, the emperor falling backwards. Before he can hit the ground, or you can even process what’s happening you move, dashing over and catching him. “Freeza? Freeza?!”

Panicked you raise your right hand to your forehead again, teleporting once more to Dr. White’s side.

“Karn, I told you to...L-Lord Freeza?!” he shouts in surprise, nearly falling out of his chair. “What happened?!”
“I found him in a training room, and while we were talking he passed out.” you explain, setting your friend on the scanning table as Dr. White grabs a few tools and walks over briskly. “He looked exhausted, transformed, then just fell over. I brought him right over as soon as it happened.”
“Stand aside, let me see him.” Dr. White says, checking Freeza’s chest with a metal disc, feeling at his wrist and neck for a pulse, then lifting his eyelids and checking them with a small light. After a moment or two the good doctor’s movements become much less frantic and far more relaxed, like a man doing a task he mastered decades ago. As a minute turns to two, he then turns from Freeza and addresses you directly. “He’ll be okay. No signs of serious injury, I believe he was just suffering from sleep deprivation, and his body simply gave out on him. I’ll run him some fluids, and put him in a tank for the cuts and burns until he wakes up.”
cont
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>>4467278
“That’s a relief.” you say, releasing a breath you hadn’t known you were holding. “I was worried something was really wrong with him.”
“You mean besides acting recklessly?” he asks, looking hard at you. “I wonder where he’d pick that particular trait up?”
“He must take after someone else, doc. I’m never stubborn.” you say, trying to hold a straight face as best you can. Fortunately his expression cracks before yours does, the two of you sharing a brief laugh before you help put Freeza in the healing pod. “Thanks again doc. For everything.”
“It’s what I do.” he replies, you nodding to him once. Thankfully Freeza’s safe, and not in any serious, life-threatening danger.

But what now?
>Get back to your students, see how they’ve been progressing during your recovery
>Just walk around the ship, so everyone you meet will see you’re alive and okay
>Return back to that crystal crater, you have an idea you want to test out
>Ask Dr. White for the crystal, not the dust but the actual rock itself. You want to make sure it still works
>Other(write in)
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>>4467280
>Ask Dr. White for the crystal, not the dust but the actual rock itself. You want to make sure it still works
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>>4467280
>>Ask Dr. White for the crystal, not the dust but the actual rock itself. You want to make sure it still works
>>ask raven if she wants the dust
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>>4467280
this>>4467312
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>>4467312
support
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>>4467280
>Ask Dr. White for the crystal, not the dust but the actual rock itself. You want to make sure it still works
>Get back to your students, see how they’ve been progressing during your recovery
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>>4467280
>>Ask Dr. White for the crystal, not the dust but the actual rock itself. You want to make sure it still works
>>ask raven if she wants the dust
Can we add a some questions about how are things going on in New Salda again?
I think last time she gave off the impression, that something was going on, but she wanted to make Karn think that it's absolutely nothing. I'm curious.
>>4467312
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>>4467352
Okay dude, check your post before posting, your double posts and deletions are getting annoying.
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>>4467356
What's the problem? They are gone.
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>>4467287
>>4467312
>>4467330
>>4467341
>>4467352
>>4467353
Ask Dr White for the crystal, plus write in wins it. Writing.
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Dr White is hero. He is not in the spotlight of Vox's cameras, and many people probably never heard of him. Yet he saved so many lives, and helped a lot, this includes Karn, his family and friends.
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>>4467352
>>4467355
No they aren't, the first one was, you got a third.
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>>4467372
When I press f5 it's only the latest that is visible, but anyway I will try to pay more attention.
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>>4467362
The war effort and possibly the fate of the entire universe is directly tied to his medical expertise. It's mind boggling to think of how much sway he has over us.
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>>4467452
Yes. You are right.
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>>4467280
“Speaking of, do you have my crystal?” you ask him. “Not the dust, but the rock itself. I want to see if it still works.”
“I was wondering when you’d ask for it.” he says, opening a drawer in his deck. Then he grabs a pair of metal grips, gingerly grasping the mutated Bloodstone and gently pulling it out of the drawer. You’re curious why he’s avoiding contact with it, but after what it did to you his caution isn’t unwarranted. “Here. This is the large piece that was blasted into your forearm.”

“Thanks.” you say, letting him drop it into your open palm. As the gem makes contact with your skin you feel it, there’s still energy inside it. Not the raging inferno of power you’d felt when it boosted your body up to Super Saiyan 3, only a small ember of that power remains. But as you reach out into it and touch that energy, you feel it stirring. Cautiously you send a bit of power into the stone, it devouring it greedily. But as your energy is fed into the green crystal the energy changes. It no longer feels like the energy you’d put in, but instead it feels more intense. “It’s not quite the same as it was, but it still works.”
“I don’t like magic, and won’t mess with it myself.” Dr. White advises you seriously. “Magic can do many things, but it causes more problems than it can fix.”
“Wait, that’s it.” you say to him, then think out to the most magically-adept person of your own timeline. “Hey, Raven. You up?”
“I am.” she answers. “Since you’re talking, I take it the operation was a success?”
“Yep. My body is now crystal-free.” you reply. “So I have a jar sitting here of the mutated Bloodstone’s shards. Want to check them out, and see how they’ve been changed?”

“Hrmmm.” she replies neutrally, you curious how she manages to humm telepathically. “Very well, I’ll take it off the ship. Such a dangerous substance cannot be captured. Bring it to where we spoke last time, and I’ll store it on the island.”
“Thanks Raven. I’ll be there in a minute.” you tell her, ending the link and addressing Dr. White again. “I’ll take the dust as well. I’m giving it to Raven, so she can store it away safe and hidden on New Salda.”
“That sounds like a wise course of action.” he says, gingerly lifting the jar filled with crystal shards to you. Slipping the Emerald Bloodstone inside your uniform by your collar you hold the jar carefully, leaving Dr. White’s office. You quickly make your way outside the control center, flying over to the main loading bay of the left arm. You pass through the airtight energy barrier, turning and telling Raven you’re in place.

“I’m here.”
cont
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>>4467523
A moment or two later you watch as Raven, New Salda’s Guardian creates one of her dark portals. You see her once more on the small beach, hovering several inches over the late Guardian’s meditation rock.

“Good to see you.” you say as it opens fully, revealing the Guardian isn’t alone. Your old man Tatsu is there, walking a younger Saiyan through the opening movements of the Su Ma technique. “Here. These’ll be safer ib your hands than here.”
“I won’t let anyone mess with this.” she says, holding it gingerly. “Now, was there anything else?”

Well, is there?
>Catch up with Tatsu, and see who this kid he’s training is
>Ask her what was going on here before you went under
>Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira
>Return to your old ship, check up on Silver and see how things are going there.
>Other(write in)
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>>4467528
>Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira
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>>4467528
>>Ask her what was going on here before you went under
Finally I can vote.
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>>4467528
>>Ask her what was going on here before you went under
>>Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira
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Leaving vote open another ten minutes
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>>4467574
>>4467528
Maybe we could also ask Ubo if he wants to join us in war against the Covenant?
Or if he does not wants to stay at the Lucrehulk all the time, then if he would like to come through Raven's portal shortly before next big battle?
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>>4467599
Since we STILL have a tie, I’m rolling for the tiebreaker.
>1
Ask her what was going on here before you went under
>2
Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira

Either way, writing.
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>>4467610
hey GD, you don't have to answer right now, I'm just asking before I forgot again.

We can go Legendary Oozaru or Emerald Oozaru correct? If we Mastered Legendary Oozaru, and unlocked Legendary Primal, would that carry over into Emerald Oozaru and if so how much?

Asking because even now, Emerald Oozaru is throwing around 103 Billion, which is more then even Golden Freeza can take, and everyone else is worthless.

Legendary Oozarus 34,101,000,000 is much more manageable, since even before this power boost, Suppressed Golden Freeza was sitting around at 46.7 Billion, and Primal Vegeta/Bardock can hang around in that ballpark too.
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>>4467689
Legendary and Emerald Oozaru are the same thing, it's just a different starting PL of the transformation that scales to max, like Berserker used to.
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>>4467709
IF thats the case, and I'm taking everything besides QM Posts with an ocean of salt, Legendary Oozaru is still safe in that case since its easier for people to take us/the powerball down when we flip out.
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>>4467528
“Yeah, I was wondering about something actually.” you say, Raven’s expression turning more neutral. “Before I went under, something was going on back here. I didn’t ask about it, but it’s been bothering me ever since. The hell was going on?”
“I can answer that one.” Tatsu says, your old man drifting over. Despite sporting more scars than anyone else you’ve ever seen, and what’s left of his hair gone grey, your father still cuts an impressive figure. The universe tried it’s best to end him, yet he’s still here. Which, considering the forces you all have faced over the years, the fact he’s still standing attests to his stubbornness. “It’s that damn underground maze. A bunch of the eggheads have been taking weapons and other such things out, but they somehow awakened an army of giant stone soldiers.”

“Of course there’s a stone army down there.” you say, sighing out. After everything that’s happened, this seems relatively tame in comparison. “So you all had to go down and smash some rocks?”
“Basically.” he replies. “But they’re strong, and even worse completely immune to Raven’s magic. Somehow. But we beat them back, your kids Tatsu and Tomi leading several charges by themselves. Heh, I never thought my own grandkids would surpass me.”
“They’re that strong, huh?” you ask, worried. “Are they-?”
“They’re fine. Better than fine.” Tatsu says, laying his only hand on your shoulder. “In fact, they led the counterattack while Ubo was off-world.”
“Wait, he’s not here?” you ask, looking between the two of them. “Where’d he go?”

“He was looking through his old ship, that sent him here when he was a child.” Raven says, her mood becoming a bit apprehensive. “And after he charged the ship up a bit with his own energy, he found a recording for him in it. He didn’t tell me what the recording said, only that he had to go take care of something. I can’t access it myself, so whatever he was told is still a mystery to me.”
“Even your magic can’t see it?” you wonder aloud, Raven shaking her head. “Damn. That’s some pretty high-quality security, I wish this ship was that airtight. I’ve swatted more assassins on here than I remember, and Guldo cut down four this morning.”
“Bastards.” Tatsu spits disgustingly. “It was good seeing you, but I need to get back to lessons. The young won’t train themselves up right.”
“Take care old man.” you say, the two of you clasping forearms before he drifts back over to his student, who’s looking over at you curiously.

What now?
>vote in one minute
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>>4467726
What do you do now?
>Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira
>Return to your old ship, check up on Silver and see how things are going there.
>Visit the hole, check it out yourself and make sure that it’s still under control
>Telepathically reach out to New Salda itself, see how your planet is doing
>Leave back to the Lucrehulk, visit your students and monitor their training
>Wander around the Lucrehulk, and make sure every group of people are made aware you’re back in action
>Other(write in)
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>>4467728
>>Wander around the Lucrehulk, and make sure every group of people are made aware you’re back in action
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>>4467728
>Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira
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>>4467728
>Telepathically reach out to New Salda itself, see how your planet is doing
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>>4467728
>>Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira
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>>4467728
>Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira
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>>4467728
>>Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira
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>>4467726
> “He was looking through his old ship, that sent him here when he was a child.” Raven says, her mood becoming a bit apprehensive. “And after he charged the ship up a bit with his own energy, he found a recording for him in it. He didn’t tell me what the recording said, only that he had to go take care of something. I can’t access it myself, so whatever he was told is still a mystery to me.”
So Ubo is most probably discovering more about his past. Very interesting.

Also it's very nice that this dangerous Bloodstone crystal dust is no longer on board of the Lucrehulk. With Raven taking care of it, this will probably not be causing more problems.
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>>4467728
>>Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira
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>>4467736
>>4467744
>>4467748
>>4467749
>>4467752
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>>4467767
Take this opportunity to check up on both sets of twins, as well as your little Okira wins it. Writing.
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>>4467728
“I’m gonna check up on the kids while I’m here, if you don’t mind.” you tell Raven, also telepathically telling Meloka and Vegeta at the same time. Raven nods to you, closing the portal and returning to her quiet meditations. You leave her to it, and Tatsu to his student and take off towards the mainland. Focusing your ki sense you feel your eldest twins power, unsurprisingly coming from the same place. So you travel towards the north, sensing their joined power along with another dozen or so signatures. Curious, you suppress your own power, intending to watch whatever’s going down. And within moments you’ve arrived, dropping just outside the tree line at the edge of a clearing so as not to get too close, and watch.

“Is this all of you?” Tatsu asks, your son back-to-back with his sister as a dozen or so older children have them surrounded. Each one, individually, is stronger than either of your elder twins. But you know just how strong they really are, especially when together. “Are you guys sure you want to do this?”
“Don’t bother Tatsu, they won’t listen.” Tomi says, you noticing neither of them have their twinblades on them. “Let’s just make this quick, and go back.”
“Don’t you make fun of me!” the largest of the children shouts, dashing at your daughter. The rest hesitate for a moment or two before moving in as well, clearly not as eager for the fight as the brute is. Poor kid doesn’t know what he’s in for.

“Let’s go.” Tomi says, your twins grabbing each other’s right hand. As they do you feel their powers not only combine but surge, your twins much stronger together. Tomi swings Tatsu, your son kicking the large boy in the jaw with all their combined power. The attack launches him away, crashing into two of the others. But the rest don’t stop, and neither do your kids. Tatsu and Tomi swing each other around, their combined, modified Su Ma technique making quick work of the dozen older children. Within a minute they’ve taken them all down, except for the largest brute.

“I’m not gonna lose!” he shouts angrily, you feeling a familiar surge of power begin emanating from him. And with a bestial roar he transforms, hair spiking and turning golden as he transforms into a Super Saiyan. “You think just because your daddy’s special, that you get to look down on us? I’ll show you your place!”
“Last chance, back down.” they say in-sync, transforming together. Their power absolutely dwarfs the brute’s, but he’a clearly unaware of the difference.

What do you do?
>This is their fight, don’t interfere
>Walk out, tell them they need to each fight him one-on-one instead of teaming up
>Step out, but say nothing and just observe what happens
>Let them fight, but use your telekinesis to pull the ko’d kids out of the way
>Other(write in)
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>>4467827
>This is their fight, don’t interfere
They got this, easy.
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>>4467827
>This is their fight, don’t interfere
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>>4467827
>This is their fight, don’t interfere
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>>4467827
>>This is their fight, don’t interfere
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>>4467827
>>This is their fight, don’t interfere
This is fine for now, but once we comeback, we really need to teach the kids to be able to fight solo, or together with the other kids, not constantly side by side.
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>>4467827
>This is their fight, don’t interfere
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>>4467846
This is their fight, don’t interfere wins. Writing.
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>>4467827
This is their fight. And you have no right to step in and stop it, even if it would save that moron from a beating. And a beating is what he gets, your twins’ combined power overwhelming him. He doesn’t get a single hit in, the pair spinning and flipping around him without breaking their grip on each other. For two minutes he withstands their attacks, doing his best to retaliate. But after that his power begins dropping rapidly, no doubt not used to this golden power of his. Yet even though his power begins sharply declining, your twins don’t let up. In fact they redouble their efforts, beating him harder and harder until you hear a solid crack. He drops down instantly, rolling in the dirt and clutching his clearly-broken left arm.

“GAAAAAAH!! AAAAAAAHHH!!!” he cries out, hair reverting to the normal black. But your daughter’s not done, lifting a foot and stomping his right knee. “KYAAAAAAAAH!!”
“Woah sis, what was that for?” Tatsu shouts, letting his sister go. As he does their combined power splits, the total power between them noticeably dropping. “We already beat him, why’d you do that?”
“We had to teach him a lesson.” she says coldly, glaring at the crying brute for a few seconds before turning back to her twin. “Don’t forget, he was bullying Maz and Kayle. This jerk deserves worse than just a few broken bones.”
“Tomi, that’s enough.” Tatsu says, grabbing his sister’s hands and jerking her around to face only him. “Stop this. Right now.”
“I-Uhhh, what?” she asks him, confused. “Tatsu? What’s goin’ on?”
“You went a little crazy there sis.” he says, hugging her. “Glad you’re back. Now c’mon, let’s get out of here.”
“Okay.” she says, the two flying off and leaving the dozen older children there moaning and some crying on the ground.

“The hell was that?” you mutter to yourself, pondering what you’d just seen and heard. It seems that she has some serious mental problems going on. Perhaps you should try and approach her and Tatsu about it? Or maybe you should just leave it alone for now, and come back with Meloka to try and help her.

What will you do? What should you do?
>Follow Tatsu and Tomi, confront your eldest twins about what happened
>Leave them alone, check up on the others right now
>Go tell Raven and your old man about Tomi’s condition, maybe they’ll be able to do something that’ll help her
>Go back to the Lucrehulk, observe your students’ training and tell Meloka directly what you saw
>Other(write in)
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>>4467933
Ooooooooh, that ain't good, she got HARD Meloka genes, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY COME UP OFTEN!?
>Use telekinesis to gather up the kids and try to get some info out of the more cognizant ones
>Take them to the hospital then go talk to Raven and Dad about this mood snap.
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>>4467933
>>Go tell Raven and your old man about Tomi’s condition, maybe they’ll be able to do something that’ll help her
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>>4467933
>Follow Tatsu and Tomi, confront your eldest twins about what happened
Shouldn't let this fester but dragging the whole gang along to confront them may cause them to be on edge.
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>>4467933
>Follow Tatsu and Tomi, confront your eldest twins about what happened
Congratulate them on their team work too.
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>“Tomi, that’s enough.” Tatsu says, grabbing his sister’s hands and jerking her around to face only him. “Stop this. Right now.”
>“I-Uhhh, what?” she asks him, confused. “Tatsu? What’s goin’ on?”
>“You went a little crazy there sis.” he says, hugging her. “Glad you’re back. Now c’mon, let’s get out of here.”
Interesting. Is that a second personality that exists in Tomi?
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>>4467953
Follow Tatsu and Tomi, confront your eldest twins about what happened wins it. Roll me a 2d100
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>>4467956
My god I just thought of this....what if one of them is a Stand?
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>>4467953
>Congratulate them on their team work too.
Congratulate them on their good team work too.
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Rolled 44, 45 = 89 (2d100)

>>4467964
DADING
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>>4467969
I say this more often then should be necessary, but, FUCK YOU DICE!
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Rolled 95, 65 = 160 (2d100)

>>4467964
>>4467971
watch THIS
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Rolled 5, 50 = 55 (2d100)

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>>4467965
Crazy. But do you mean:
>One of the personalities in Tomi is a Stand.
Or:
>One of the twins is a Stand.
Because that second option would be some next level craziness.

Through our whole life we were convinced we had a twins. Tatsu and Tomi. We really only had 1 child. Which one of the twins is real and which one is a Stand.
>>4467973
>Rolled 95, 65
Nice. Best rolls from three.
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>>4467976
At least I'm not the worst.
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>>4467979
I'm not going to lie, I was going for the ol' "say something cocky but get really low rolls" joke
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>>4467980
I mean, Tomi might be a independent Stand that came into existence with Tatsu, and if the mood swings aren't Meloka genes, then its the auto retaliation mode.
>>4467986
If you call it against me there is a distressingly high likelihood of doing better than me.
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>>4467969
>>4467973
>>4467976
95/100, 65/100. Interesting, writing.
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>>4467933
You debate leaving them alone, or gathering a few friends to help. But you are their father. Helping them with their problems is your responsibility. Fortunately they don’t return to their base forms, the twin Super Saiyans easy to track. Lifting back into the air you follow them, all the way back to your old ship. They land on the roof, but before they can go inside you quit masking your ki and make your presence known.

“What the-DADDY?!” they both shout excitedly, turning up to see you. As they do they blast off, slamming into you like a pair of wrecking balls. You catch your eldest twins, holding them to you as they both start talking completely out of sync. You can’t understand a single word they’re saying, but it doesn’t matter. You’re here now. After a minute or two they finally begin calming down, Tatsu asking you when you’d showed up.
“I’ve been here for a bit.” you say evasively, then decide to go ahead and say what you saw. “I saw your fight.”

“Really?” Tomi asks, but Tatsu freezes in place. “Tatsu, he saw us fight!”
“Y-Yeah.” he says nervously, trying not to glance at you. Which confirms for you that it wasn’t a one-time thing you’d witnessed, but something that happens regularly. “Wha-What did you think?”
“Well, you both fight well together.” you address him, then turn to Tomi. “Did you have fun?”
“I dunno!” she says excitedly. “I don’t really remember what happens after a fight. But Tatsu says I’m really good at it, and beat up the jerks that bully Maz and Kayle.”
“Really?” you say, an idea forming in your mind as you share a knowing glance with your boy Tatsu. “How about it then? Since I’m here, you two want to show me your progress, how your training is coming along?”

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 141 paused-
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>>4468037
And that’s it for tonight, enjoying the thread so far? Curious what’s going on with Tomi, and just how much stronger they’ve gotten? We’ll resume at noon EST, just 10 1/2 hours away.
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>>4468044
Thanks for the run gd, definitely curious what's going on, but I'm sure they're a lot stronger than when we had last saw them. I'll miss tomorrow's run but good luck guys
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>>4468044
Really fucking worried about our little girls bloodlust there,she just blacks out too fight? That ain't Meloka stuff. Ascended Dad mode might be needed for this one.
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>>4468051
We'll take care of the kids, don't worry about it.
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>>4468051
Good luck yourself, hope you enjoy
>>4468057
There are a few questions you haven’t asked yet, that may or may not make things clearer
>>4468059
Here’s hoping
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>>4467988
>I mean, Tomi might be a independent Stand that came into existence with Tatsu, and if the mood swings aren't Meloka genes, then its the auto retaliation mode.
Interesting.
>>4468037
>“Y-Yeah.” he says nervously, trying not to glance at you. Which confirms for you that it wasn’t a one-time thing you’d witnessed, but something that happens regularly.
> something that happens regularly.
Well that is intriguing.

>>4468044
>And that’s it for tonight, enjoying the thread so far? Curious what’s going on with Tomi, and just how much stronger they’ve gotten.
Yes, very much.
>>4468051
>I'll miss tomorrow's run but good luck guys
Thanks, good luck to you too.

I wanted to post about what happened in Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140 since a lot of interesting things happened, but I did not managed to do in time for it to be in previous thread.
So I'm going to do it now when quest is paused and it won't interrupt anything.
There are incoming walls of text in a moment. I hope this won't get detected as spam and my posting blocked.
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We heard so many warnings about Mechikabura. Fu told Karn about the danger he represents.
Also In Saiyan Conqueror Quest 138 GD said in post >>4425195:
>Mechikabura noticing you is never a good thing.

And then the moment comes, for Karn to dream for a long time. I was expecting something important. Maybe a vision of what is happening in the real world, while Karn is dreaming, but what happed was an event of even bigger scale.

It is about someone who is probably one of the most dangerous beings in all of multiverse. This person arrived in Karn's dream to meet.

This is our very first meeting. We only heard about him in character. And yet he knew about our Karn, one of the many Saiyans you can meet in various timelines. He personally took his time to find our Karn and to meet with him. In person, without any body guards or other people to hear the conversation.
He who could be described as having a reputation of being one of the biggest if not the biggest bad among the inhabitants of the multiverse.
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Dumplin radiated with power. Its sheer passive pressure was always so noticeable, you just knew he was unbelievably strong. Mechikabura despite still being in his weakest state, recently resurrected, still in his old age and all that, was able to win against Dumplin.

Fu even told us he has enough power to be realistically capable of opposing both Chronoa and Dumplin and win.

This person shows up in our "dream". He arrived alone and maybe even his own gang of Demon Gods, does not know he went to talk to Karn. Someone who even now, can empower regular Demons into Demon Gods, decided to personally visit Karn.
This is very thought provoking.
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He was not afraid to appear in front of two (2) Zenos in the timeline of Amaya's during the Tournament of Power.

He came to have a polite conversation. No threats, no attempt to force Karn to follow his orders.
And on the topic of possible threats
>Remember when in Saiyan Conqueror Quest 139 Arbiter's heart stopped and it triggered the detonation the bomb inside him.
>Karn nearly died. Bloodstone saved Karn, by absorbing much of the power from explosion.
>Again he found himself in a limbo, a state between life and death.
>This is where Fu visited Karn again.
>He talked a bit about Mechikabura, and even warned us not to say Dark King's name in this place for he could hear us.
Quote from Saiyan Conqueror Quest 139:
>“So why are you here? Is it about that demon, Mechi-mrmph!?”
>“Don’t say his name!” Fu hisses as he slams a palm over your mouth and looks around worriedly for several seconds. “If you do, he might hear you. Understood?”
>You don’t reply with words, simply nodding to him. After a few more seconds he sighs out in relief, letting you go.
>“Sorry. But if he catches us here, neither of us will see our bodies ever again.” he says,
This exactly where Karn was when Mechikabura decided to make his visit.

Mechikabura found us here, in a place where Fu said it would be most risky to be found. I guess we can assume, if Dark King wanted he could very realistically try to catch Karn's soul and mind. Our consciousness would not return to the body that was healing in the specialistic healing chamber.

He demonstrated his ability to keep Karn in limbo for an extended period of time when he decided to prevent him from waking up, because he still wanted to talk more.
Quoting what Dr White said in Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140:
>“Once the procedures were finished, and your body was fully healed, I tried to bring you back from the coma. But for some reason, I was unable to. Your mind refused to return to your body.”
> “It was only supposed to be a few days.” Dr. White says, sounding a bit nervous now. “But you’ve been out for two weeks.”

If things went bad in limbo perhaps we could try to fight back in there.
But the point is that if Mechikabura really wanted Karn gone now, he could have attacked then and there with a huge situational advantage.

But he instead just arrived to talk.
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He said something very important here (quote from Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140):
> “Wait, you mean Dumplin?” you ask him, understanding dawning. “He was made by the Supreme Kai of Time?”
>“He was created on her orders.” Mechikabura says, shaking his head. “And despite how much I despise that woman, she did create a decent threat. By basing her design off of Majin Buu, and infusing that thing with both divine ki, she made quite a monster.
>Then she had time itself destroyed, and recreated with her monster’s assistance.
> Had I not created the Dark Dragon Balls, my existence would have truly been erased forever. >Fortunately, due to myself being tied to the mystical orbs and Dumplin’s greed in keeping them as a deterrent against Chronoa, I wasn’t truly erased.
> My consciousness still existed within the orbs, and I was able to plant visions of myself inside Towa’s mind and convince her to revive me.

He revealed something and Karn is smart. I'm sure Dark King knew what he shared with us, and I assume he did that on purpose.
This information is so important I doubt he told this to anyone else. So why he told Karn?

He said everything about him was erased along with the "old" version of time.
>Time was then recreated by Dumplin and Chronoa.
>Despite nothing being left from Mechikabura, Dark Dragon Balls existed.
>In those objects his consciousness was preserved, saved, and in that sense Mechi remained alive.
It is kind of like with Sauron and the One Ring. As long as it exists he can return.
Or like when a Lich has its Phylactery.
>The existence of an object allows user to escape true death.
> As long as the item(s) remain, he/she can come back to life.
Though Phylactery can allow for an auto resurrection, the return to life of the owner.

Those Dark Dragon Balls are Mechikabura's anchors to existence.
>We can theoretically destroy his mind, spirit and body entirely and think that it's over.
>And yet as long as those Dark Dragon Balls remain, he will still truly be alive.
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Now apparently, they don't grant auto respawn after demise, but they keep him alive regardless. Thought at the cost of no auto respawn they give something else. They must grant great degree of concealment .
>Dumplin probably held those orbs at his place, as a precious treasure, in his own home, safe. >Dumpln has a lot of power and he did not sensed that they have where hiding Mechikabura himself in them.
He did not even notice when Dark King's mind and spirit had been reaching out from those seven objects to Dumplin's most trusted Towa, mother of his precious daughter.

I bet Mechikabura did not managed to convince Puddin's mother in one quick chat. So he was active for quite some time before she made the wish on Dark Dragon Balls to resurrect him. And Dumplin sensed nothing earlier.
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Mechikabura revealed to Karn his final emergency solution. Something so important and meaningful that it saved him from the erasure of entire time.

Now we know that to kill Mechikabura for good we also need to destroy those Dark Dragon Balls. An objects so unique because they come from a version of time, that no longer exist.

But why did he really reveal to Karn his last resort ultimate survival plan?

I'm guessing based on really nothing, but I'm calling it now. Since he told us this, he already has another thing prepared.
If I remember right GD said Mechikabura is very cautious.
So I think Dark King tied his existence to another important object or something else just Dark Dragon Balls. What it is we don't know. Nobody does. So even if it comes to this that he dies again (very unlikely) and even the Dark Dragon Balls will be destroyed, he will still have another mean to return again.

That is why he decided to share this very so valuable knowledge with Karn, because he has another not revealed emergency plan ready.
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When we finally we met the terrifying and scary Mechikabura that we heard of he turned out to be so persuasive.

We know he is very convincing, he convinced Puddin's mother to side with him against Dumplin.
He talked to Karn with respect. He seemed to understand Karn.
In Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140 one anon said this (post >>4458117)
>" Five sentences in and he's better than literally every god we ever met. "

Dark King arrived with gifts. We never met him before and he gave us gifts of knowledge. Things he revealed are very valuable. He brought explanations and information that otherwise is almost unreachable.
Some of the things he told us:
>He told us about defying of Fate.
>He revealed and with this he confirmed in character to Karn the possibility of attaining the God Ki through the path of Berserker Transformations. Did Karn knew about this possibility in character? As far as I remember he did not.
>He also talked about possibility of getting Primal version of a Berserker Transformation.
>He revealed to us a bit about the story of Karn that Dumplin knew and what happened to him.
>He told us about the existence of Dragon Balls and how to use them.
>Most importantly he granted us unbelievably precious knowledge of a powerful ability that Divine Dragon Force has. The one that makes it possible to make wishes come true.
>He even warned that wishing for something that requires too much power to fulfill can kill Karn.
He really gave us a lot.

He even promised such possibility (quote from Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140):
> " Once my youth and strength are restored, I shall destroy both Chronoa and Dumplin, and establish a more fair rule. Of course, once they’re defeated, you need no longer fear erasure. Your daughter, Towa, and even your half-Saiyan children shall be able to exist alongside you, and your family may all live together.”
Soon after this he is saying his goodbye:
>“Keep yourself safe, Karn.”
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We just met and he already made such a great impression.
>Chronoa's underling (Trunks) on the other hand tried to kill (by preventing Towa from saving her from dying in a crystalizing healing pod) Meloka (and succeeded in another timeline, which caused Furure Chaya's life to go as it did).

Mechikabura surely acts as if he wants to be in good terms with Karn, and everything he did so far since he arrived in the limbo looks great.

But can we really trust him?
In Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140 anon said this (post >>4458546)
>"I still don’t trust Mechikabura. He’s probably gonna fuck us over the moment we’ve outlived our usefulness."
Maybe that's how it is. Perhaps he just need us for something, and once he gets it, Karn will join the "to kill list" alongside Chronoa and Dumplin.
Dark King is very convincing in acting so friendly towards Karn, but is he honest?

Divine Dragon Force confirmed the part that he could about his own powers.
What about other things Mechikabura told us? Did he told us the truth? Or just what he knew we wanted to hear, and would be helpful in gaining Karn's trust?
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Quote from Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140 ( >>4458501 ):
>“I sensed you were in mortal danger.” Divine Dragon Force replies. “That being is dangerous, more dangerous than anything I’ve ever seen. I wanted to be ready to defend you, should the need arise. But, unfortunately, I failed.”
>“You didn’t fail, he’s simply several leagues of power above us.” you console your Stand, a concept you’d probably find pretty funny in another context. “But what were you trying to do to him?”
>“I had hoped to gather my power, and expel it as you do.” your Stand replies. “But that barrier he’d put around me somehow sealed off my energy. I couldn’t project it beyond ourselves.”
Wow am I reading this right?
>“I had hoped to gather my power, and expel it as you do.”
Wow. Did our Stand attempted there on his own to use his God Ki and use it as energy wave or other energy attack?
Awesome. Our Stand is attempting to self improve on his own.
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Another quote from Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140 ( >> 4458959 ):
>Where you’re greeted by several people, who all have seemingly been waiting on your recovery.
>“KARN?!!” more than two dozen people shout, all rushing over to you. Nappa is there, Leyas and Sarada too, along with many of your students. Your old ship’s crew, and Turles is here as well. Even Komand’r of all people seem excited to see you up and alive again.
So many people really care about Karn, they even waited just outside to be able to see him instantly as soon as he wakes up.
>“The hell you worrying us for?” Sarada shouts, and sounding more angry than you expect, swings for your head. You don’t quite know what happened, but one second she was swinging for you, and the next your left fist is out, facing to the right of where she’d been, and Sarada’s been sent halfway through the wall and into your crew’s room. Dead silence echoes throughout the room for several oppressive seconds, before Nappa breaks the tension.
>“At least yoy can still fight after all that time slacking off! Hahaha!” Nappa shouts, the energy coming back to the room instantly.
Instinctual response to potential hit. Interesting. Nappa is fun.

>Nappa activates his scouter, training it on you and whistling as he reads the new number aloud.
Powerlevel: 34,101,000. That is very nice.

>“What the hell?!” Sarada shouts, Leyas’s sister pulling herself free of the wall and turning to you. You see she’s bleeding from the mouth, but still giving you the same wolfish grin as ever.
Nice.
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>Also about the Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140:
Wow. Karn Jr has already transformed into Super Saiyan 3 for the first time. Unbelievable.

The Guldo was awesome with what he did when that kidnapping attempt by Covenant went on. Nice to see Ginyu Force again.

Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140 was really exciting. It was great.
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I wanted to write about something big that happened recently and that is of course the gift of knowledge bestowed by Mechikabura.

Let's just quote Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140
> “Now, focus. Be careful with that Stando. By speaking it’s name, and wishing for something, your ‘Dragon Force’ will expend it’s power to try and make your wish come true. With your own power, if it’s own isn’t enough. But beware, if you wish for something well beyond your power, such as raising your untransformed power to that of your other timeline daughter’s full transformed power, your energy will be completely burned out, and you’ll die.”
And another quote:
>“Do you think he was telling the truth?” you ask, curious. “Can you really grant wishes like he said?”
>“I am uncertain.” your Stand replies. “But I do know, or at least suspect that doing such a thing will render me dormant. Much like your daughter’s Stand does when it uses up too much power.”
>“I see. Better not test it now then.” you say, images of facing powerful Stands without Dragon Force keeping you from even considering it. “We’ll save that as a last resort then.
This is a very big news, and a very exciting one.

Just think of the possibilities. I'll try to explain what I'm thinking about it with various examples of possible wishes. It's the easiest way to picture it.
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First hypothetical wish:
>Divine Dragon Force I want "Freeza's Mets Grape Drink" now.
What am I talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlFNdSnW68A

So this wish seems like not much, but It's a good way to describe concerns regarding how the wishes are fulfilled.
We did not stated how we want to get it so Divine Dragon Force can choose how to make this happen.

Option one:
>Divine Dragon Force uses it's God Ki to mimic Gods' creation powers and make one drink for us.
This possibly may or may not be that exhausting since it's just a little bottle of drink. Possible positives of this method:
>It's probably exactly what we wanted.

Option two:
> Divine Dragon Force teleports nearest good bottle to us.
Depending on the distance it may be less energy taxing than creating it. Though if such "Freeza's Mets Grape Drink" does not exists in our timeline then it gets much harder. He would have to probably try reach out into another timeline to get it, and that probably requires more energy.

Now I'm assuming here that if we don't specify ourselves to Divine Dragon Force in what exact way we want this wish fulfilled, the Dragon will automatically choose the option that gives best results with possible least energy required to make it happen.
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Another thing is the period of dormancy the Dragon enters after fulfilling a wish. Normal Dragon Balls have 1 year cooldown. What is it like with our Stand?

If we are going to have Divine Dragon Force inactive for a year after any wish we make, then it will be bad.
>Divine Dragon Force I want "Freeza's Mets Grape Drink" now.
If the dormancy is dependent on the difficulty of fulfilling the wish, then it changes the game entirely, and opens a lot more options with this.

Honestly 1 year cooldown is massive, a would guarantee that we would probably use this very rarely, almost never.
Unless we wish for a shorter dormancy period after each wish.

But if the cooldown is depending on the amount of energy that wish requires to be fulfilled then it would be much more interesting. I have no clue how long the periods of time would be.
>Short dormancy after asking Divine Dragon Force to turn on the TV on Vox's channel.
>A longer than that example above dormancy time after asking Divine Dragon Force to give us "Freeza's Mets Grape Drink".
>A longer than this time of dormancy after we ask Divine Dragon Force to bring our first ship we stolen from Grey's right here in working condition.
>Possibly longer than this time of dormancy after we ask to resurrect somebody who died?
I have no clue how long those times would be. Could they be perhaps decreased by restoring God Ki to Divine Dragon Force?

It would be great if we could ask Divine Dragon Force for an estimated time he will be unavailable. I mean it's very uncertain making any wish, without knowing when will we see the Dragon again. Not having Divine Dragon Force with us is bad. I know he will still be there though "sleeping", but it's not the same.
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I guess that Divine Dragon Force is in tune with our mind and subconscious and gives us what we want. It that sense when we state our wish, he will do everything he can to make it come true in a best way possible.

I mean by this that we are not giving the wish to some cunning Genie or devious Devil that wants to screw us over by looking for a way of making our wish backfire through finding some loophole in a way we phrased it.
This is Divine Dragon Force we are talking about, and he is on Karn's side.

>On another topic.
It is interesting to note that dragon is capable of doing something you could expect from Gods. So far it's possible that nobody (except Mechikabura) knows about what Karn and his Stand can do. It's probably best to keep it that way. It may attract a lot of bad attention.
>Supreme Kai of Time might get uneasy because of this, and become more prone to deleting our timeline.
If we could communicate with our Stand through telepathy to make our wishes without saying them out loud it would be good in keeping this great ability unknown to our enemies.

If they don't know we have it, then we have the advantage of a surprise.

However it is tempting to let Joseph Joestar analyze Divine Dragon Force. Maybe we would learn about more of its power.

Then again maybe we could just wish Divine Dragon Force to grant us perfect knowledge and understanding of its powers.
And if that is too much for one wish, then maybe just perfect understanding and knowledge of Divine Dragon Force's wish fulfilling ability.
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Now that we have talked about the basics that unfortunately are still absolutely unknown, we could think of some interesting possible wishes to make with it.

And some of the ideas you can get could make a lot of impact on what is going on.
I got this idea.
>Divine Dragon Force bring back to life, here and now, Killua Zoldyck.
If such thing happened it would be crazy.
>He attacked Karn and Karn killed him.
>A lot of events happened because of this.
>Today all of his family already accepted that he is gone.
If we suddenly returned him from the dead. I'm not sure I can imagine possible consequences but it surely would be interesting.

And that is just one wish, there are so much more of the possibilities. I'm not saying we got to do it, but it's so interesting to think what we can do with this power of Divine Dragon Force.
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Another wish is from power gaming category.

> Divine Dragon Force grant me perfect regeneration.
Very strong wish.
>Such regeneration in combo with Zenkai and Karn's high endurance and strength very hard to kill.
>We could tank enemy attacks so hard, and would be so hard to eliminate.
>Any serious injury would result in Zenkai boost .
Awesome. I'm getting the feeling that Chronoa's hand is hovering now on the "Delete Karn's timeline button" right now.

> Divine Dragon Force grant eternal youth so I stay in my prime forever.
Great and self-explanatory. Alternatively we can get similar thing by wishing for:
> Divine Dragon Force restore my youth and bring me back to my prime.
Every time Karn will start to get old.

We could even wish for this:
> Divine Dragon Force restore Tatsu's youth, health and bring him back to his prime.
He does not need to die now.

We could even wish for bringing back to life of Guardian (Yoda).
Though I'm not sure if he would want to return to the living.
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But power gaming does not stop here we could go further with this.

Now I know that the more we wish for the more power it will require to make it happen. Dark King warned that if we wish for something that requires too much power Karn will die.
>But right now there we don't have anything to estimate any of that, so we can at least think of possibilities.
If some awesome wishes require more power than we have now, perhaps after a while we will be able to make them happen when Karn becomes stronger, more powerful. So it is just a matter of training, working hard and patience.

Here goes one very powerful wish.
>Divine Dragon Force grant me God Ki.
Why is it so interesting? Because if we already have God Ki then we can still follow the path of Emerald Oozaru which then leads to Primal Berserker.

However doing this with God Ki could be opening to a potentially different powerful transformation path, apparently not seen in any timeline before.
>Primal Berserker God
I'm not sure how it could look, so I posted pictures of what it may be.

>Primal Berserker but with God Ki
Could it possibly be the "best of both worlds"?
If it would happen this could probably be the "I'm erasing this whole timeline now" type of thing for the Supreme Kai of Time.
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So can we go even further with power gaming?
Yes we can!

Here's another wish. It's possibly one of the most overpowered things you can wish for.
>Change my species from Saiyan to "Ultimate Life Form" like Kars with granting me perfect understanding and ability of using my new powers.
How strong is Kars? Unbelievably.
And this wish just granted his powers to Karn.

Or maybe we could even phrase it better.
>Change my species from Saiyan to "Ultimate Life Form" like Kars with granting me perfect understanding and ability of using my new powers, and have my current Saiyan abilities, Berserker Transformations already flawlessly copied and integrated into my new "Ultimate Life Form" species.
This way we lose none of our current advantages and gain so much more. Yes I know this very much overpowered.
>We could start walking around copying anyone strong we know to further add more powerful traits and transformations to Karn.
>All of that would be stacking creating so absurdly strong combos available for Karn.
>I say first person to copy should be our friend Freeza and his humongous power potential as well as transformations.
Simply so overpowered it's unreal.
Obviously If Chronoa would notice this, she would erase our timeline in a blink of an eye. Or at least I suspect she would.
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I just posted about few things we could wish for. There are more than this. Once Karn meets Buu in character he can decide he wants his powers and abilities too.
>Divine Dragon Force grant me Buu's unusual powers and abilities along with perfect knowledge and understanding of them and how to use them.
Though technically Karn already met someone who was from the "species" that Buu is. There was this Time Patroler girl, and there was also Puddin.

What can I say. Let's just quote what Mechikabura said in Saiyan Conqueror Quest 140:
>" You can become one of the strongest mortals in all universes, Karn. "
And he was right.
We just need to watch out for the Supreme Kai of Time so we don't get erased along with our timeline.
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>>4467528
>Catch up with Tatsu, and see who this kid he’s training is
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>>4468194
Wow I'm dumb holy shit
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>>4468183
And it’s because you do shit like this massive 21 post sperg fest that I don’t even bother to read your posts.
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>>4468201
Honestly, this, anon.
I get you really enjoy the quest but maybe get to the point a little faster yeah? We don't need a play by play of what occurred, we're here reading it just the same as you are. Try and focus on the important posts of your point instead of posting everything you've thought of maybe?
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>>4468183
Anon i see your interested and probably new, but one thing i wanna point out is karn wouldn't necessarily metagame as hard as he possibly could even with in character knowledge, also your point on mechikabura has some merit, cause hes a sneaky old bastard of a demon king, but you need to learn conciseness because not everyone will read your piles of posts in a row like i did. also even you yourself admitted your metagaming shenanigans will probably get our timeline nuked, so while speculation is fun due to DDF potentially being broken as all hell, the main reason people haven't pushed for something like get to the world of the void to power train to apex berserker and shit power all throughout reality the timeline would be instantly deleted.
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>>4468145
Tatsu and Tomi have something special, but that may have certain...complications.
There are many things he told you, and some of it could be quite game-changing. But he went out of his way to find you.
>>4468194
Didn’t refresh?
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>>4468201
>>4468302
>>4468329
Thank you for your opinion. I will think about it. I do not want to repeat my mistakes.
>>4468331
>Tatsu and Tomi have something special, but that may have certain...complications.
Interesting.
>There are many things he told you, and some of it could be quite game-changing. But he went out of his way to find you.
Also interesting.
Situation is changing. Events such as Mechikabura seeking out Karn on his own will probably have huge impact.
It seems like this time Karn may be dragged deep into this whole conflict between Chronoa, Dumplin and Mechikabura. And it will probably happen regardless of if Karn wants it or not.
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>>4468037
“Really?” Tomi shouts excitedly, turning to her brother. “Let’s show Daddy what we can do!”
“I dunno...” he says, hesitating as he looks at you. But you won’t be dissuaded so easily, putting a hand on each of their heads.
“Don’t worry about me, I’ve been training too.” you say, smiling at them but staring hard at Tatsu while his twin sister’s eyes are closed. “I want to see exactly what the two of you are made of.”
“Alright.” he says, turning to his sister. “You ready?”
“Ready!” she shouts, Tatsu and Tomi clasping hands. His right grabs her left, andjust as before their powers combine, their total strength surging far higher than either one’s could be raised individually.

“Looks like you both haven’t been slacking.” you say, your scouter giving you a quite impressive reading of just under eighty five million. You won’t be able to take them on as you are now. So in response you clench your fists, and let your power flow forth. “HRRRYAAAAAA!!”

Your strength surges as you transform, aura changing to emerald as you take your own Super Saiyan form. Your sudden explosion of power knocks them both back a bit, but they correct themselves within a second or two.

“I won’t lose.” your twins say, talking and taking an unfamiliar stance in perfect sync. You take your own stance in response, waiting to see what they’ll do. And they don’t leave you waiting long. “HAAAAA!!”

Slamming their opposite hands together they fire a powerful golden energy blast your way. You don’t make any physical effort to block, instead using your Barrier technique.

“Not good enough!” you call out, the attack exploding against your spherical shield. But that was only how they wanted to close the distance, having followed it closely they suddenly dash through your Barrier and are within striking range. And strike they do, Tatsu swinging his right fist as Tomi kicks for your head. However, despite you blocking both strikes with your forearms, the blows don’t simply stop. Each of the twins start rapid-firing blows, while still keeping their grip tight on each other. After blocking a dozen or so blows from each of them you leap back, dodging the next attacks.

“Not bad you two, you’ve really improved.” you say. You might have to actualky take the two of them seriously.

But how will you do this?
>Rush in and attack, put the pressure on
>Defend, see what else they can do
>Keep your distance, and see how they handle your ranged attacks
>Multiform, fight them two on two
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>4468420
Sudden realization, isn't this exactly what Dr. White told us not to do?
>>Keep your distance, and see how they handle your ranged attacks
Let's not stress our physical body anymore
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>>4468425
He didn’t want you fighting all-out like in a life-or-death scenario, or pushing your body by intense gravity training.
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>>4468420
>Multiform, fight them two on two
This looks fun.
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>>4468420
>Multiform, fight them two on two
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>>4468420
>>Multiform, fight them two on two
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>>4468420
>>Multiform, fight them two on two
should be a good experience for them
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Rolled 22, 82 = 104 (2d100)

>>4468425
>>4468441
>>4468447
>>4468449
>>4468456
Multiform, fight them two on two wins it. Roll me a 3d100.
First DC: 40
Second DC: ??
Third DC: 50
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Rolled 75, 84, 27 = 186 (3d100)

>>4468470
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Rolled 26, 97, 86 = 209 (3d100)

>>4468470
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>>4468478
>>4468479
YA YEET MOTHER FUCKERS!
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Anyone going to do third roll?
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Rolled 55, 30, 100 = 185 (3d100)

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>>4468484
bro
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>>4468478
>>4468479
>>4468484
75/100, 97/100, CRIT/100. Oh myy, writing
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>>4468484
I can't believe we killed our kids
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I just pray this ass beating will give us insight into Tomi's psychosis.
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Wow
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>>4468484
Uhhhhhhhh.... I think we went a bit too hard on them here...
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>>4468420
“Now let’s see what you’re really made of!” you shout, crossing your arms and focusing. Just as you’d learned from Towa’s Cell, you split your energy in two. You feel your awareness and consciousness shift, becoming one mind in two different bodies. “You both fight well together. Now let’s see how you each fight on your own!”
“Wait what?” both ask you simultaneously. But you’re already on the move, dashing to them both and grabbing their joined arms. And before they can try and brace for it, you tear their grip apart and sling them in opposite directions. Their power drops immediately, but not evenly. Tomi’s power is noticeably less that Tatsu’s, and she seemingly recovers first. “H-Hey! What was that for?”
“I already told you, I want to see how you both fight on your own.” you say, your bodies going back-to-back.
“I’ll get you for that.” Tatsu says, his voice cold and hard like Tomi’s was earlier. Tomi seems more nervous and timid than before, clearly unsure of what to do now. So you make the decidion for them, and launch yourselves forward.

“Bring it on!” both yous shout, each dashing at a kid and going on the offensive. Tomi goes fully on the defensive, using the movements of the Su Ma technique to avoid your strikes. Despite your clear advantage in power you hold back, testing her ability and not simply trying to obliterate her. And after a dozen or so swings, each one narrowly missing her, you realize your daughter’s good. Better than good, in fact her Su Ma is demonstrably better than your own. So you keep up the offensive, wary for the counterattack you know is coming. But Tatsu’s a different story.

“RRRRAAAAA!!” he roars, meeting your charge head-on. His fist slams into yours, the much younger Saiyan trying to match you strike for strike. “I’ll make you pay!”
“Pay? For what?” you ask, letting him be the aggressor as you switch into the Djem So style. His strikes are powerful, but he isn’t prepared to fight you like this. He swings with a hard punch straight for your nose, you knocking the blow aside and taking his balance. Before he can recover you attack the opening, spinning around him and landing a hard right elbow to the back of his head.
“GUH-!” is all he gets out, you feeling his power drop sharply as he’s ko’d. But the strangest thing happens. As he falls, suddenly your son regains conscious, flashing back up to a Super Saiyan and landing on both feet. First he looks over to his sister, who’s still evading and defending against your strikes. But then he sees you over him, and he freezes. His eyes widen in surprise, yet is for some reason too afraid to move, or speak. You don’t fully know what’s going on here, but you’re starting to get an idea.
cont
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>>4468579
“What’s the matter?” you call down, crossing your arms. “I thought you were gonna ‘make me pay’?”
“Huh?” he asks you, confused. “What do you mea-?”

Yet for some reason he stops talking, your son going a bit pale. You notice a single bead of sweat run down his forehead, then he charges you again. You take your stance, Tatsu closing in and firing a cone-like wave of energy right at you. You don’t even activate your barrier, sensing something else going on. And sure enough there is, his blast weak. But it wasn’t to damage you, instead he intended to blind you. And it works, your vision completely destroyed by the attack. But through the pain your ki sense still works, following Tatsu as he charges the you battling Tomi.

“HAAAAAA!!” he shouts, swinging for your back. But without their combined power neither really stands a threat, you turning and catching his fist with your right hand.
“A sneak attack doesn’t work if you shout.” you admonish, but before youcan grab his fist he flips up and over you, slapping a hand on Tomi’s shoulder. You feel their energy surge again, but as he lets go a moment later their energy levels are no longer so far apart. In fact, they feel even. “Sorry about that.”
“It’s fine.” she replies, the two taking their individual stances. “Alright daddy, NOW I’m ready!”

What now?
>Rush in and attack, put the pressure on them hard
>Defend, see what else they can do
>Keep your distance, and see how the duo handle your ranged attacks
>Recombine and power down, address what you’ve seen from them so far
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>4468584
>>Keep your distance, and see how the duo handle your ranged attacks
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>>4468584
The fuck is going on here?
>Keep your distance, and see how the duo handle your ranged attacks
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>>4468584
>Keep your distance, and see how the duo handle your ranged attacks
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>>4468584
>Keep your distance, and see how the duo handle your ranged attacks
I dunno what's going on with our kids, but I know they're doing well!
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>>4468584
>>Keep your distance, and see how the duo handle your ranged attacks
Something’s wrong with these kids
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>>4468584
>>Keep your distance, and see how the duo handle your ranged attacks
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>>4468591
That’s the big question, isn’t it? Anyways
>>4468589
>>4468591
>>4468593
>>4468596
>>4468606
Keep your distance, and see how the duo handle your ranged attacks wins it. Rill ne a 3d100
First DC: 40
Second DC: 60
Third DC: 30
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Rolled 88, 32, 17 = 137 (3d100)

>>4468630
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Rolled 61, 76, 77 = 214 (3d100)

>>4468630
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Rolled 66, 5, 66 = 137 (3d100)

>>4468630
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>>4468633
>>4468634
>>4468635
Fuck yeah we did it...also weirdest roll I've ever gotten for 3 dice.
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> you tear their grip apart and sling them in opposite directions. Their power drops immediately, but not evenly. Tomi’s power is noticeably less that Tatsu’s.
>he flips up and over you, slapping a hand on Tomi’s shoulder. You feel their energy surge again, but as he lets go a moment later their energy levels are no longer so far apart. In fact, they feel even.

> Their power drops immediately, but not evenly. Tomi’s power is noticeably less that Tatsu’s,
>their energy levels are no longer so far apart. In fact, they feel even.
So it seems that Tatsu's power level was higher when he was inhabited by the "Crazy Personality". It also appears that this personality was earlier in Tomi. Can this "person" jump between each of the twins when they touch? Or do each of them has their own "Crazy" second personality?
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>>4468640
Might be a Stand effect? Like my earlier theory. It could be some magic fallout shit too, maybe demon magic shit as well.
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>>4468640
Rough guess but I'd say it's not a third personality so much as imbalance between the twins energy causing their bonded personalities to have a shift. This leads to one being more timid but more skilled. while the other enters a rage state losing rationale. I'd guess the cause is that they either have gotten too used to being bonded or this is because they're experiencing different growth levels which have thrown off their balance alot
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>>4468635
88/100, 76/100, 77/100. Impressive success, writing.
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>>4468642
It could be a stand, and I hope to god it is.
If it isn't...it might be something they inherited from us unwittingly. God I hope it isn't what I think it is.
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>>4468649
Not possible for it to be that, they need the Green first. Hell, if someone had a chance for it, Karn Jr would.
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>>4468652
>they need the Green first
Do they? Remember, our regular Super Saiyan forms didn't start turning noticeably greener until we started using the actual Berserk transformations regularly. Even then, it still took a while.
Whatever it is, it's not good if they can't control it.
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>>4468654
They still have regular Saiyan form, if it was the mutation it would manifest in the Berserker transformation.Which is required for the normal SSaiyan form change. This is something else.
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>>4468654
>>4468658
The Koruza from Age 1114 (I think) had Legendary Super Saiyan as his first transformation, without Berserker. But that's hundreds of years into the future so it probably doesn't matter.
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>>4468665
Well we don't know if he didn't have the Berserker form, hell we don't even know if Towa caused it, hell it could be a natural outcome of his hybrid body.
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>>4468674
That's not the Koruza I'm talking about.
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>>4468674
He’s talking about Karns descendent who met Aku
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>>4468676
Oh, you mean the one having story time with Aku I think? What have they been up too, its been awhile. Unless we get more info on that when he comes back.
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>>4468584
“I see. Well then, now that you’re both ready.” you say, your previously blinded body coming up beside the other. And without a word your bodies both go on the attack, tossing a pair of Scattershots towards the kids. “Let’s keep going!”
“Woah!” Tatsu and Tomi both shout, yet they keep their cool. Your twins turn to each other, and kick towards each other. Their feet slam together, each kicking the other the opposite directions away from your attacks. With their powers boosted for the instant they were touching, the maneuver launches them clear of the Scattershots. But they don’t just evade, your kids unleashing their counterattack. “Take this! HAAA!!”

“Barrier!” you shout, one body creating a Barrier while the other gathers it’s ki in both hands. Both Tatsu and Tomi’s powerful energy waves slam into your shield, but they can’t pierce through it. After a few seconds they end their attacks, you dropping the shield and retaliating with two beams of your own. “My turn!”
“Barrier!” both twins shout while activating shields of their own. You hadn’t expected this, but their shields both manage to withstand the waves you fire out. But you don’t end it there, your other body firing another pair of Scattershots as you end then ki waves. Their shields again withstand your power, you splitting yourselves up to pursue each of the twins. The one chasing Tatsu follows up the Scattershot with a Dual Energy Wave, the two attacks smashing into the shield and sending him flying further away.

Meanwhile your other you pursues Tomi, launching a quick barrage of energy bombs one after another. Her shield withstands blast after blast, each explosion sending her flying further and further away from Tatsu and your old ship. Neither is able to stand up to your attacks, their Barriers keeping them safe from harm. But no shield can last forever, especially when it’s withstanding stronger and stronger attacks. Both Barriers begin to crack under your assault, they can’t keep it up for much longer.

“This is it!” both of the yous shout, creating a larger ki blast and launching them at the kids. To your surprise both drop their Barriers, firing a lightning-quick beam at each other. Their attacks connect, and to your surprise the beam of energy actually pulls your twins towards each other, dodging your blasts. You detonate them both, making sure they don’t strike the planet or fly towards anyone else before both turning towards the rejoined twins, who’s power again surges as they clasp hands. “Not bad you two. You both have gotten much better. Now, who’re you?”
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>>4468817
“I am neither Tatsu nor Tomi.” the twins say, you noticing their voices are coming out slightly differently. “I am Tomitsu.”
“Thought so.” you say, your suspicions confirmed. When their minds meld, joining together completely like that, they no longer have their individual identities. Instead they become an entirely new person, this ‘Tomitsu’ as they call themselves now. “What do you want with my kids?”
“Want?” Tomitsu asks, both heads tilting in sync while looking at you. “I don’t get what you mean. I don’t ‘want’ anything from them. I AM Tatsu and Tomi. When they combined their powers to become one, minds syncing completely, they created me.”

“I see you’ve met Tomitsu.” Raven says, the Guardian appearing beside you. “They have an interesting condition, don’t they?”
“Raven?” you ask, still confused about this. “How?”
“I’m not certain of it myself.” she says, the two of you facing this new individual. “But this Tomitsu is an entirely new being, made of bits and pieces of both of your childrens’ minds.
“I see.” you say, turning and addressing your children. “Well, Tomitsu. It’s nice to meet you.”
“And you too, Father.” Tomitsu says, again taking their unique stance. “Let me show you what I can really do!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Rg9SkfrveM

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 141 End-
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>>4468819
Oh, oooooooooooh, fusion bullshit....okay then.
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>>4468819
And that’s it for this week’s run, everyone have fun? Ready to see what Tomitsu can really do, and the limits of this fused being’s power? Curious what your other children on New Salda are up to, and how the Hive campaign is going as well? All this and more, next time on Saiyan Conqueror Quest!

>>4468824
Yes. But that doesn’t answer the other question
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>>4468827
I am sticking my bet to Stand or Magic bullshit.
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>>4468896
It’s interesting, isn’t it?
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>>4469026
Worrying more like, this fusioned form clearly isn't the thing doing it, so Stand bullshit, or something magic snuck into their body. Now I am not looking in your notes or anything, but is it the soul of the Dragon we beat?
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>>4468819
So what you're saying is.. we have one more child to dad over?
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>>4468827
Ngl, not a fan of the fusion personality, and how it’s fucking with our kids heads. I hope our other twins don’t have this issue.

Thanks for the run GD, and now that live is over, could you answer this >>4467689
If you don’t mind?
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>>4469026
So what did you think of my idea from last thread? >>4466558
Also please tell me Doctor White is the only person looking after Frieza while he's out of action.
Zarbon and Dodoria are the absolute bare minimum for the security detail he should have around him.
Frankly I hope Meloka had the good sense to stand by while we went to talk with Raven.
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>>4469175
Bruh, this was answered by GD in a previous thread, on multiple occasions, it's the same transformation, just a different starting PL..
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>>4469223
And I'm not gunna actually believe that to be true until GD himself says it, or you got a link to one of the previous posts where he apparently said it, because I'm not gunna try and make a training plan with unconfirmed info.
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>>4469222
Fuck I forgot Zarbon and Dedoria. I'm pretty sure those two are just secretaries now.
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>>4469173
Its gonna be hard to dad the psychic connective tissue between two of our kids, but I'm confident karn kan find a way
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>>4469175
>Legendary Oozaru
I don’t see anything about a Legendary Oozaru in the pastebin. Where are you getting this from?
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I have had an idea, and a bit of the groundwork for a side project started. For those who’re into the DBS ccg, or even those who aren’t, would uou be interested in actually having a Karn deck?

>>4469043
>Now I am not looking in your notes or anything, but is it the soul of the Dragon we beat?
Well you’re clearly not looking in my notes there.
>>4469173
Ha. And yes.
>>4469175
Glad you enjoyed. As for the different Oozaru, they’re *technically* the same form. The only differences are powerlevel, and how out-of-control they are.
>>4469222
Arctus knows what’s happened, and so does Vegeta.
>>4469236
Basically.
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>>4469264
What have the two stooges been up to recently?
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>>4469043
>Now I am not looking in your notes or anything, but is it the soul of the Dragon we beat?
We didn't beat it. It got blown to hell, but regenerated, but someone/thing we dunno which snagged it.

>>4469264
>Glad you enjoyed. As for the different Oozaru, they’re *technically* the same form. The only differences are powerlevel, and how out-of-control they are.
Okay thats fine then. Second question. Since their 'technically' the same form, does trying to control it benefit from both our Legendary and Berserker Form Masteries, or is it like the power growth, where if we start out in Legendary Oozaru we benefit from Legendary Form Masteries, while as time passes and we go Emerald Oozaru it shifts from benefiting from Legendary Form Masteries to Berserker Form Masteries?
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Also I had a thought, for our dead students and crew, could we do like what they did in MS3 and put a Memorial on our ship somewhere with their names on it?
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>>4469236
I always liked Zarbon. It's a shame we don't know what his race's name is, they're pretty cool.
He's a prince of a conquered race, just like vegeta, right?
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>>4469274
Administrative tasks. Mobilizing an army this size, and keeping them fed requires a lot of bookkeeping.
>>4469286
Yes. As far as you know IC, it was blasted off New Salda.
Neither. It is it’s own state.
>>4469326
Someone may have already had that idea.
>>4469344
His planet was axed too, yes. But I believe it was stated he’s a mutant of his kind, like the Ginyu force are of their respective races.
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>>4469927
>His planet was axed too, yes.
Do you mean that his planet was conquered and now is ruled by PTO? Or their planet was destroyed like canon planet Vegeta and Zarbon is one of the few remaining members of his species?
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>>4469927
So how's Bardock's clan doing? How many kids is he up to by now?
Is Raditz trying to make things official in any capacity with Chaya or is he still being a confused as fuck adolescent about it?
How's B7 doing? Is he any closer to the higher Super Saiyan forms?
Is Bane still looking for a suitably body to possess?
Would it be a stupid idea to clone ourselves just to give him a blank body to steal?
How many Super Saiyans are there on New Salda currently?
Is High Charity in a static position or is it moving somewhere?
Do Covenant ships not have slip-space or FTL capabilities in this setting?
Has Ubo figured out how different wavelengths of solar radiation affect him yet?
Have any of our students displayed any outstanding talent?
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>>4469927
I can find no information that lists Zarbon as a mutant, and one source that lists him as a prince (tenkaichi tag team)
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>>4469927
>Neither. It is it’s own state.
.....Is that so?.........Okay I'ma be hella real now. If we can talk Freeza to hang around for a few months to help us get stronger, and or once Bardock and Vegeta can go Primal more reliably, I want to start training Legendary/Emerald Oozaru. I really really do.

>>4469927
>Someone may have already had that idea.
Thats good to know. Thanks GD.

Question. Given you said Meloka has like S+ Ki Control, after those double Ki Control Crits a few threads ago, where would you put our control at?
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>>4470393
>I want to start training Legendary/Emerald Oozaru. I really really do.
That's cool, but we were told by Xeno Vegeta that Primal needs a Base PL of roughly 50~ Million to be solidly stable, our Emerald shit makes that twice as hard, so we'd need a rough PL of 100 Million at Base to be able to properly handle Emerald Oozaru and Primal Berserker. I don't think I need to tell you that we're not ready for that yet.
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>>4470438
I think we can try for it once we hit 80 Million in base honestly. Yeah it'll probably be harder than if waited till 100 Million, but I think the sooner we start reaching for it, the more time we'll have for the bonuses from repeated attempts to stack up.
Whether or not it's a good idea to try and go for Emerald Oozaru/Primal Berserker before attempting to unlock and master Berserker 3 is another thing entirely. Though by that time I have to wonder if we won't have access to other transformations outside of the Legendary/Berserk tree.
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>>4470438
>That's cool, but we were told by Xeno Vegeta that Primal needs a Base PL of roughly 50~ Million to be solidly stable, our Emerald shit makes that twice as hard, so we'd need a rough PL of 100 Million at Base to be able to properly handle Emerald Oozaru and Primal Berserker. I don't think I need to tell you that we're not ready for that yet.
Nah, he said Vegeta needed around 40 Millionish to be able to use Primal correctly, while its true we would need around 100 Millionish to use Berserker Primal right, Vegeta also shows that you can use the Oozaru Form just fine without going Primal.

So while obviously it would be slow going, if we can start getting a handle on it now, we can have access to a 1000-3000 X PL form, and we can start learning to use it before we so freakishly strong it takes True Golden Freeza and a SSG to keep us contained.

>>4470446
>Whether or not it's a good idea to try and go for Emerald Oozaru/Primal Berserker before attempting to unlock and master Berserker 3 is another thing entirely.
I was worried about that myself, but thats why I asked GD, and he said that the Oozaru Forms are unaffected by the mastery rates of any previous forms. So while yes we could spend time figuring out how to unlock Berserker 3, thats gunna be the work of years + time training it, for a X2400 PL Multipler when Emerald Ozaru caps at X3000.

Honestly theres really no reason to go for it, unless you want to go the Berserker God Route, or if you wanted to try and Master it to lower the difficulty of Mastering Primal.
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>>4470457
See, I personally want to make Legendary/Berserk Primal our new base like Future Chaya did with regular Primal.
If mastery of Legendary/Berserk Primal doesn't get any benefits from mastery over Berserk 3, maybe there isn't much of a reason to really focus on it.
That said, I still think it's a good idea if we're only focused on the near future.
You know how it goes. Peace is restored for a year or two, Towa gives us the heads up, we get serious again, and then they show up like a month ahead of schedule.
It's a balance between short term urgency and long term goals. Really gotta think about it.
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>>4470446
>I think we can try for it once we hit 80 Million in base honestly. Yeah it'll probably be harder than if waited till 100 Million, but I think the sooner we start reaching for it, the more time we'll have for the bonuses from repeated attempts to stack up.
I'd say that's reasonable, yeah, it's basically the same as a 40 Mil PL Saiyan going for Primal, but with more Rage and Power.

>Whether or not it's a good idea to try and go for Emerald Oozaru/Primal Berserker before attempting to unlock and master Berserker 3 is another thing entirely.
I'd like to get Legendary 3, just because I think it's good to have access to all our different forms.

>>4470457
>Nah, he said Vegeta needed around 40 Millionish to be able to use Primal correctly,
I'm fairly certain GD confirmed it was closer 50 Mil, but whatever.

>So while obviously it would be slow going, if we can start getting a handle on it now, we can have access to a 1000-3000 X PL form, and we can start learning to use it before we so freakishly strong it takes True Golden Freeza and a SSG to keep us contained.
It already takes Golden Freeza to handle our Emerald Oozaru, no-one else is able to handle it, and we just won't have the time to get Freeza to help for long enough to get Emerald Oozaru to a controllable state that we can train on our own, not with all the shit GD will throw at us.
Not to mention that we would probably pass out near constantly after using it until our PL is closer to 70-80 Mil, so it won't be combat viable for a WHILE. Not unless we're nuking a planet, then getting picked up in the Space Dust.
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>>4470478
Honestly I don't know how viable having Primal as a base is in our timeline. Future Chaya could do it because she was in Towas secret base with just the family, and now shes in Conton City which is maintained by the SKoT. If we went around in Primal in our own timeline I'm pretty sure we'd be Superman in DC but even more worried about accidental collateral then usual.

Agreed.

As for Near Future? It really depends desu, if we focus on PL Growth it shouldn't take long to start getting big gains, because we've mostly been focusing on getting gains from Zenkais and accidental Gains from training our students/sparing on New Salda.

For the Near Future, there's finishing Mastery of Berserker 1, regaining Mastery of Legendary 1 and 2, and then trying for Mastery of Ascended Berserker, or pushing for Legendary 3.

Legendary 3 is, by GDs own words, gunna be a big timesink. It took Meloka years to fully master Base 3, though with a reduced PL, but far better control then we ever will.

So while I won't get into an argument about Legendary 3 I think its fair to say that Legendary 3 and espessially Berserker 3, and Ozzaru, are gunna be long term projects.

>>4470491
The rage and the power is the issue though. Freeza is always going to be busy, and Emerald Ozzaru has a even bigger PL boost then 3, and in that Time Scroll it took SSG Meloka kissing Karn after he'd already Fully Mastered Berserker 1 and 2 to calm him down.

The sheer powerlevel difference we're talking about here is not even remotely the same.

It takes Golden Freeza to handle Maximum Power Emerald Oozaru yes, but if we start in Legendary Oozaru, Primal Vegeta and Bardock can fight us on equal footing, and if they start getting overwhelmed can just crush the Powerball. While More PL to handle the form easier would be good, and to be able to access Primal Itself YEARS down the line once EO is mastered, once Bardock and Vegeta can Primal more easily, its not a requirement IMO.
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>>4470523
>If we went around in Primal in our own timeline I'm pretty sure we'd be Superman in DC but even more worried about accidental collateral then usual.
At that point we just need to take a page from Bane's book and exercise masterful control over our peak physical prowess.
Hell that's what Superman did anyways, and I'm pretty sure Ubo would be a great help as a Kryptonian with largely similar problems anyhow.
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Small comment, just rechecked the PL of the other Transformation Pastebin, the Primal Transformation of X4000 is greater then what Emerald Oozarus should be X3000, so as long as Bardock and Vegeta stay somewhat even with us PL wise, and get the gains to start using Primal more reliably, they are capable of containing us if we rampage.
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>>4469959
Maybe you should ask him to find out.
>>4469975
Well enough. And more than three kids now.
Confused is a good way to put it.
He’s content helping the eggheads searching through Covenant tech.
No, and he doesn’t have Super Saiyan forms.
Yes, and VERY yes.
At least four
It’s always moving. We all are.
Good question. You have no idea IC
Partially
Yes. Can be explored more next thread, if you choose to.
>>4470048
Could have sworn it was in one of the Tankaichi character data logs.
>>4470393
Training that form could be an option after this war’s over. This arc is essentially gonna be similar to the Cell arc, in that it’s just before a major peace era.
Probably a solid B. Karn isn’t a finess fighter like Meloka, he’s a tank.
>>4470438
>>4470446
>>4470457
>>4470478
>>4470491
>>4470523
>>4470536
Just a reminder, training to try and reach new forms won’t be viable until this arc reaches it’s conclusion.
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>>4470666
Oh yeah no, I am in no way suggesting we try any form of colored Oozaru during this campaign, that would be insane. I just want to try it for our next big 'Form' Goal so I'm trying to talk about it now before the actual training/peace arc comes around and everyones just voting for what they want without considering a plan.

Solid B rank? Very nice. Need to take an occasional training action for that to make sure we don't sleep, but thats good news for us, and probably the best we can reasonably expect given our other focuses.

Thanks for the answers GD.
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>>4470677
Yeah, it wouldn’t be a good idea.
It’s a noticeable jump from low C where you were before. Ki isn’t something Karn’d ever really spent much time improving.
Always. I know I want my questions answered, and I enjoy answering everyone’s questions as well
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>>4470666
Has Ubo learned how to punch reality yet?
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>>4470741
>Yeah, it wouldn’t be a good idea.
I figured, we're nowhere near a PL that could allow us to handle the Emerald Oozaru's Rage and Power, we're barely a quarter the Req.
>It’s a noticeable jump from low C where you were before. Ki isn’t something Karn’d ever really spent much time improving.
Honestly, if we're gonna be having a long term of peace after this war before the next threat, I'd say we should train with Meloka and get Ki control to A - A+.

...Now that I think about it, I'd honestly really appreciate this Letter grade system being applied to the Character sheet for some scale of how powerful our attacks are, and how skilled we are in our Fighting Styles and such.

Another thing we should train in general is our Su Ma, our little kids are better than us in it now!
Hamon too, honestly, it's got so much cool stuff, and we hardly use it! It'd keep us healthy through a ton of shit, too, if we got it to the point that we can hold it 24/7 like our Berserker 1 form, then we'd be way stronger overall, it's a great thing to add to keep us nice and annoyingly hard to kill.
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>>4470764
>Another thing we should train in general is our Su Ma
I dunno, there's no way for Karn to be a master of every single technique and style he's picked up. I feel like Djem So fits him better overall, and he has plenty of other tricks in his toolbox for opponents that it isn't the best matchup for. I do think Hamon is something we should keep a good grip on though. Besides the utility of it, the meditation associated with it is a counterweight we probably want for the anger of the berserk forms and the risks of the dark side.
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>>4470764
Mechikabura thinks the dark side is powerful enough to be able to make karn top tier, given it was one of the options he listed.
I’d be down for focusing on it and becoming a master of the dark side.
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>>4470666
>Yes. Can be explored more next thread, if you choose to.
Good thing I asked then. I think it's about time Meloka and us each picked a personal protégé. It'd be a shame for our techniques to stay exclusively within the family, and having a solid role model would probably be good for any young talent on the roster right now.
>Probably a solid B. Karn isn’t a finess fighter like Meloka, he’s a tank.
DPS-Tank specifically. We deal stupid amounts of damage while we're in the thick of it.
>Just a reminder, training to try and reach new forms won’t be viable until this arc reaches its conclusion.
Of course. It's an interesting topic nonetheless, so it makes for good discussion during the downtime.
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>>4470764
>I'd honestly really appreciate this Letter grade system being applied to the Character sheet for some scale of how powerful our attacks are, and how skilled we are in our Fighting Styles and such.
I think a good way to have it set up is as such
>Physical Attributes and Skill are given letter grades (D-C-B-A-S-SS-SSS)
>Overall powerlevel determines who you can actually throw down with
On that second part, it goes like this in my head.
You could have solid ratings across all of your physical attributes and skills, but you'll never be able to take somebody on if the gap between you is similar to something like Krillin and Perfect Cell.
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>>4470741
Question GD. Is >>4470764
Right when he says that our PL ties into our ability to control the Colored Oozaru, or does our PL only factor in the actual PL of the form and our ability to maintain it, with control being entirely a WP/Roll thing?

Also>>4470764 Anon, I think your being a bit greedy here, GD himself said Karn is a Tank not a Finesse Fighter. Ki Control is something we should stay on top of, but we're never gunna be Top Tier in it, espessially when we have SO MUCH to train both for ourselves, our kids, and now our students.

I basically agree with this anon >>4470893 .

While I disagree on the power of our moves being Ranked, we generally all know that, I do agree with having a Ranking for our Fighting Styles, and having Ki Control being listed on our Sheet with a Ranking as well.

>>4471143
>Personal Protege. Personally I disagree. We're already splitting our training between ourselves, our kids, potentially our students when we go back to New Salda, and sometimes our friends. We can't handle a full time student.
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>>4471776
>Personally I disagree. We're already splitting our training between ourselves, our kids, potentially our students when we go back to New Salda, and sometimes our friends. We can't handle a full time student.
Fair enough. It's probably something that would be more feasible after we crush the Covenant anyhow.
That said, you can't deny the prospect of being able to build up some nobody and pass on the skills you used to survive for years on the field.
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>>4471776
>Right when he says that our PL ties into our ability to control the Colored Oozaru, or does our PL only factor in the actual PL of the form and our ability to maintain it, with control being entirely a WP/Roll thing?
Our PL ties into everything, it effects how effective our Willpower rolls to stay in control are, how long it lasts, how strong it is, all of that.
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>>4471776
It’s been stated in previous threads that you do indeed need a certain PL to be able to master Golden/Emerald Oozaru.
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Dresden Files Book 17 is out, so I’ll not be updating further tonight. This is the Avengers Endgame of this series, everything’s going to hell fast. Rip Chicago
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>>4472113
Wish I could read it myself, god speed.
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>>4470763
Not yet. Right now he’s off discovering who he really is.
>...Now that I think about it, I'd honestly really appreciate this Letter grade system being applied to the Character sheet for some scale of how powerful our attacks are, and how skilled we are in our Fighting Styles and such
That’s a lot of work.
Also they’re better at it because they’re training it constantly, unlike you who jumps from training to training.
>>4470970
Because he’s seen what the truly top .01 of the 1% can do.
>>4471143
Picking a single student to focus could have negative effects.
Karn does big damage. Hell he does everything big.
>>4471776
Yes, powerlevel is only to physically handle the power, has nothing to do with the rage.
>>4471999
>>4472097
Powerlevel isn’t a measure of your will.
>>4472117
It was certainly worth the buildup. Rest in peace Jotunslayer, you will be missed.
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>>4470666
>Confused is a good way to put it.
So Mr. Satan, when will Chili give Raditz some advice?
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>>4472548
Thanks for clearing that up GD, and desu if we could just get a Ki Control and a Fighting Style Ranking on our Char Sheet, I'd be happy with that. But if thats more work then you want to do thats fine then. We've gone 100+ threads without it so we can keep going without them.

Glad you enjoyed the book though.
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>>4472548
Spoilers man.
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>>4472550
HA.
>>4472661
Both it and book 16 together have been worth the five year wait. But don’t you fukkn make us wait another 5 for the next one Jim.
>>4472665
I didn’t say who, or even which one. Although the Jotun being a thing may be a bit spoilery. Also I fucking called two of the big twists. Being a QM has increased my ability to see the story threads
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>>4472708
Being a QM on 4chan's funnel of autism probably helps alot too.
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>>4472708
Question GD. Is it possible for us to pull a Freeza with the Colored Oozaru forms, and limit our PL once we've started to gain control of the form, so we can grind control of that point?

Like, go Legendary Oozaru, get control, and limit our PL Multiplier to like X1200, get control of that, increase the Multipler to X1500 and try and control that ect.

That way we don't rage out of control as hard and can maintain the form longer without burning out like Freeza does with True Golden and Suppressed Golden.

Or is that impossible and our Legendary Oozarus PL Multiplier is gunna climb until it reaches the full X3000 regardless of any efforts to the contrary?
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>>4472721
QMing is an excellent autism/spectrum filter. If you have a quest last 5+ threads, your brain is on a different wavelength.
>>4472776
No. You can’t even do that with the NORMAL Oozaru forms. It takes a lot of effort to even think while transformed into an Oozaru, and a tremendous will to exert the same level of control Saiyan-saga Vegeta showed against Goku. Then when he went Golden Oozaru, even that overwhelmed his mind for a time until his pride overwhelmed the bestial rage.
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>>4473236
Eh it was just an idea I had. If it can work thats fine. Figured we were gunna have to do this the hard way regardless. Thanks.
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>>4468180
>On wishing power ups
Considering the energy requirements to wish Karn into Beserker 3 (or was it god?) is beyond him I suspect even if Karn had either of the forms the wish would either drain him to half death and leave him in the Apex form or it might exchange his Current form to the wished upon (as in Primal > God Or God > Primal)
>Though i might have an alternative
What about wishing for skills? Or to wish for increased aptitude/Intelligence?
>How many things we were SO occupied with that we couldn't train base pl and Legendary/BeserkerMastery?
See what i mean?
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>>4473236
Actually GD a question and a hypothetical to throw at you. Has Golden Freeza or Primal Vegeta ever sparred with Solar Ubo to compare their strength?

As for the Hypothetical, while obviously I'm pushing the Mortal Route, I was thinking. Would it even be possible to become a Primal/Apex Berserker, and then become a God of Destruction, thus being able to slap God Ki on top of the Strongest Mortal Forms for something completely setting breaking?
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>>4473245
Nothing worth getting is ever easy.
>>4473359
Golden Freeza may have, far far away from planets.
Yes. Becoming a GoD is different than a Saiyan God, and NOT reliant on the mortal attaining divine ki. And, as an aside: a Saiyan God could also theoretically then go on to become a GoD, vastly increasing it’s divine power and potential. That wouldn’t put you into game-breaking territory, just at the same relative level as the heavy-hitting divine beings.
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>>4473399
Neat, thanks for the info GD, and not gunna lie, I'ma kinda hoping Broly goes the Berserker God route and then murks Beerus to become his replacement. He's taken it upon himself to protect his family and people. What better way to do that then become the greatest divine power in the universe and ensuring he will be able to be around for centuries/millennia/ect in order to protect them?
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>>4473399
If we do end up actually killing Beerus, does that mean we get his his position automatically?
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QM UPDATE

Three solid posts in on the epilogue, Battle Ground certainly gave me the inspiration I needed to finally finish the Hive War arc. This is gonna be fun.

>>4473428
By not being bound to a bunch of seemingly-arbitrary rules, and the life force of a much weaker being?
>>4473434
>killing Beerus
You’d have to be able to stop Whis for that to actually stick. Do you think you can stop an angel?
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>>4473490
I mean whis saw us kill beerus, doesn't that mean we did stop him in the possible future vision?
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>>4473490
The Rules are something I know very little of, so no comment, but atleast a Saiyan GoD could then train up the Supreme Kai to not be such a bitch.

I mean, as far as I'm aware, Angels aren't allowed to protect their GoD's from harm? They are their to advise and teach. Not protect.
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>>4473493
Nah, we just killed Beerus in surprise retaliation because he blew up New Salda. Whis just didn't stop us. He will warn Beerus to not push us too killing him, but that ought to be it.
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>>4473493
Yes, he saw. And what is it that Whis can do again...?
>>4473497
True. But training someone who doesn’t want it, and who can kill you by killing themself, is a losing proposition.
>They are their to advise and teach. Not protect.
And what better way to advise someone than see the outcome of their choices, and literally rewind time?
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>>4473512
......You know, I don't actually WANT to kill Beerus, because whoever would have to replace him wouldn't be able to fight in the ToP, but does this mean we can't kill Beerus even if we wanted to, because Whis will keep rewinding time and using it as a 'learning experience' justification?

Also shin is a bitch but I don't think even he is a big enough bitch to kill himself to spite us when all Karn/Broly would want him to do is be stronger then he currently is.
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>>4473490
>You’d have to be able to stop Whis for that to actually stick
I suppose it would be a pretty fucking terrible time for Whis is he went dormant, so yeah he'd probably rewind right before the final blow and cold-cock us.
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>>4473521
>Also shin is a bitch but I don't think even he is a big enough bitch to kill himself to spite us when all Karn/Broly would want him to do is be stronger then he currently is.
I say he deserves death for the simple reason that his incompetence, even after 75 million years of being in charge, is so detrimental to the Universe that we'd be doing everybody a favor by killing him.
Not to mention he did absolutely nothing when our home was invaded by the forces of Hell, and then acted like we were in the wrong when we called him out on it.
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>>4473512
When’s the next tournament to decide the new GoD? Just completed Whis’ mentor training in XV2, and he asked if I wanted to join the next GoD tourney.
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>>4473521
Whis doesn’t want to go dormant, so he would do what he could within his restrictions. He can’t ATTACK someone trying to kill Beerus, but that doesn’t mean he can’t get between them.
Also I thought you wete gonna go the “he’s too much of a bitch to kill himself” route there.
>>4473536
He isn’t allowed to harm mortals, outside of very specific circumstances. Including the mortals expressly asking for it, aka training.
>>4473545
This just in, millions of years old being doesn’t like having his errors pointed out by someone not even half a century old. More at 7.
>>4473718
That would be a long, long way away. Especially as XV2 is set in Age 852, and it’s currently Age 749.
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>>4474007
>This just in, millions of years old being doesn’t like having his errors pointed out by someone not even half a century old. More at 7.
Understandable, but still petulant and childish. He's got one of two options once we deal with Buu.
>Put in some fucking time and effort to get good with Karn and the gang
or
>Die with a spectral dragon eating his innards
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>>4474007
>Also I thought you wete gonna go the “he’s too much of a bitch to kill himself” route there.
He's an idiot but he's not that autistic.

Also guys going through the various pastebins, and I noticed something potentially troubling.

Right now its Age 749, according to a alternative future special omake, the Universe 6/7 Tournament happened in Age 757.

No idea if thats something thats actually gunna happen in our timeline, but the fact that its possible concerns me, anyone remember how long it is until Beerus is supposed to wake up?
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>>4474813
>anyone remember how long it is until Beerus is supposed to wake up?
Beerus wakes up in Age 778 of the main timeline.
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>>4474867
Yeah in Canon. This gave me a jolt to the brain and I checked the old threads. In Thread 17 Beerus had a Vision of the SSG appearing and the Fish said Time was altered and wouldn't appear for another 20 years now.

That was during 737. Beerus is actually set to wake up in 757. We have 8 years Beerus wakes up it looks like.

I Am Concerned.
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>>4474877
Eh, we can lift him given that much time.
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>>4474877
I’m sure we’ll be ready by then
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>>4474204
Shin will have to maje choices, one of these days.
>>4474813
In that timeline, Beerus was awake sooner.
>>4474867
In this timeline it’ll be Age 757, less than 8 full years from now.
>>4474877
I told you all a Cell to Buu-tier timeskip was coming. I’m just surprised you all figured out why honestly
>>4474884
>>4474908
You’ll have plenty of time to prepare.
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>>4474926
>I told you all a Cell to Buu-tier timeskip was coming. I’m just surprised you all figured out why honestly
I am not be able to particpate much during the actual lives but don't doubt for a second I love this quest and want Karn to die old and in bed surrounded by his dozens of blood relatives as the former strongest being in his universe.

Still......8 Years. Most of which is gunna be training for Beerus's awakening. I didn't think we were so close to the precipice.

Ignoring whatever form/s we try to unlock or Master, or new shit to learn, we need to grind PL for whats to come. If we aren't 70ish Million or more Base by the time Beerus shows up we've done something wrong.
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>>4474926
>You’ll have plenty of time to prepare.
>around 7 and a half years to wrangle our tard powers, polish our Dark Side skills, and get swole
It's not impossible, but goddamn is it gonna be a tall order. I can already imagine the stupid shit you have cooked up make this a challenge.
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>>4474926
if we unlocked Berserk 3 before Beerus shows up, would undergoing the SSG Ritual push us to Berserk God despite the Berserk Line mastering requirement? Or would we just get a temporary boost in power due to having a bunch of power pumped into us?
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>>4474933
>If we aren't 70ish Million or more Base by the time Beerus shows up we've done something wrong
If we actually put an emphasis on getting swole, we can get that done in 2 or 3 years easy.
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>>4474937
Yeah its gunna be a bitch organizing our training options for this.

>>4474938
From what I understand it, no that wouldn't push us to Berserker God, pretty sure you need to Master Berserker 3 like how Meloka has Mastered SS3, and then use that increased strength to shatter the barrier inside you and get in touch with the ember of divinity all living things have.

>>4474943
I dunno. Before our PL was 20ish Million starting this campaign? The 14 Million we got so far was mostly Zenkais from the Arbiter Bomb and Bloodstone Surgery.

We can probably reach that level, in that time period, the question is what other training we have to sacrifice to do so.
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>>4474969
That’s how I figured it’d be. I was hoping there would be a loophole to attaining BG.
>>4474943
This.
If we go balls to the wall training with Freeza we’ll reach it in no time.
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>>4474933
Always glad to know people are reading, especially outside the usual 3-7 voters.
It’s about time we leave Z behind, and venture into Super/GT.
Grinding will be an option.
>>4474937
There won’t be a full just poof, timeskip. Certain enemies still need to be dealt with, and there are other events outside your control.
>>4474938
No, but it could potentially make it easier.
>>4474943
Wouldn’t be that quick, but strong you can be.
>>4474969
Yes. Berserker God is transcending the Berserker part, and leaving the rage behind.
>>4474998
>I was hoping there would be a loophole
Not on my watch. After all, you already got a boost attaining 3.
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>>4475017
Oh yeah, Hirudegarn and Janemba haven't been a thing yeah, though Buu is unlikely at this point, and the only shit I remember from GT that might still be relevant are the Shadow Dragons who...probably aren't gunna show up because lack of Dragon Ball Abuse.

Honestly I'm glad theres still enemies left. We're probably gunna get more PL from Zenkai fighting them then we would training.
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>>4475026
>I remember from GT that might still be relevant are the Shadow Dragons
We also have to be on the look out for Baby
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>>4475038
Oh right I forgot about that fucking thing. Man, looking at Hatchyack and Baby, the Tuffles really were fucking bullshit. I have no idea how the Saiyans killed them all in the first place.
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>>4475038
Oh yeah...almost forgot about Baby. Man that's gonna be wild if he manages to get ahold of Vegeta in this timeline too. Or god forbid he takes over Ubo or Freeza.
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>>4475049
An army of giant gorillas can do a lot of damage
>>4475066
It’ll certainly be a wild ride when Baby comes around. If he gets ahold of Karn or Freeza it’s game over for the universe.
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>>4475017
Actually GD I had a thought.

Once the Big Peace Arc Training starts, could you do a big vote like what you did for the Post Siege Training Arc where we decided between Berserker Mastery or Golden Oozaru, and instead have it be focus on Berserker 3 or Emerald Oozaru? Just have one single vote decide it all?

I'd be salty if Berserker 3 wins, but atleast this way we don't waste actions between trying to train and master both forms, when we can only have 1 Final Path.
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>>4475049
>I have no idea how the Saiyans killed them all in the first place.
Sheer overwhelming violence and relentless brutality tends to bypass slow technical measures. If they'd started making the weird science shit earlier the Saiyans would have been screwed. Thankfully the Tuffles didn't plan for genocidal giant monkeys ahead of time.
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>>4475026
Janemba probably won’t, at least not for decades.
>>4475038
That’s gonna be a fun one. For me. Maybe not so much for you guys.
>>4475049
A full moon. Which only happened on Planet Vegeta every 8 years.
>>4475066
He’d have a real hard time wirh either, unless he had already conquered Karn and Meloka’s bodies.
>>4475163
You’ll have to wait and see on that one. This’ll be the first real timeskip we’ve ever had.
>>4475234
Bingo
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>>4475247
>This’ll be the first real timeskip we’ve ever had.
Could you go more detail into this if you don't mind? We did have that Post Siege Timeskip Arc.
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>>4475247
>He’d have a real hard time wirh either, unless he had already conquered Karn and Meloka’s bodies.
I know exactly who's naive enough to get snuck up on by Baby and just strong enough spread the parasite.
Chaya's gonna be the fucking death of us.
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>>4475247
>This’ll be the first real timeskip we’ve ever had.
I assume by that you mean we’re not going to have any mini-arcs during the timeskip.
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24 hours until SCQ 142 begins! Hope everyone’s ready

>>4475256
That wasn’t years of time like this’ll be
>>4475266
She’ll be getting much, much stronger as she matures into adulthood.
>>4475313
I’m not quite saying that.
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>>4475651
>She’ll be getting much, much stronger as she matures into adulthood.
Without a doubt, but will she get any smarter?
That's kinda where she's failing right now.
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>>4475747
It’s not intelligence she lacks, but wisdom. She’s smart enough to outlast a time-rewinding Stand user after all. But as she gets older, and experiences more the wisdom will come. Especially with this episode’s epilogue, which’ll hopefully finish up and post tonight
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>>4475783
Well, regardless of my articulation of the problem, it still exists. I still see her as a prime target for someone like Baby.
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QM UPDATE

Unfortunately something’s come up, and I won’t have the epilogue ready in time this week. However, it’ll be a nice long one for after next thread ends.

>>4475848
Potentially. I’d say it more depends on WHO finds Baby first, pic related possibly
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>>4476234
Oh god no.
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>>4474969
>>4474937
Well depending on if we wishing on DDF to be able to master a skill was possible (ie dark side, IT, Multiform...) we could cut a lot of time we could use for training as I said here
>>4473249
One possible wording if needed could be 'I wish to gain the skill in 'x' from its greatest master' if just wishing for mastery doesn't work
>It could even act kinda like Pucci's disks since DDF is a stand
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>>4476234
Cooler just can’t catch a break
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>>4476234
Eh. As strong as Cooler is, he's not all that threatening.
If he brings friends however, that's another story.
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>>4476366
His face turns as big as his ascended form, but it's really just swelling from the bitch slaps.
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>>4476234
>Baby Cooler
>can't infect anyone else because everyone hates Cooler and bullies him
>Baby dies because he became a cuck by proxy
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>>4476234
Yes, I'm okay with this, unless Baby can unlock Golden Fifth Form Possessed Cooler, I'm 1000% down for this. I want to beat that ass a second time for being such a petty bitch before.
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>>4476234
Right, my bet is baby uses cooler to spread across his more subtle empire, probably nabs Boros and his crew too, though he'll make him fight for every inch, finds an unremarkable saiyan and saiyan Vietnam flashbacks commence. Honestly I think... B7 and the twins, maybe Caulifa are the ones who won't have trouble with his ability. Karn Jr is a high possibility though, as well as broly of he let's himself rage out. Guldo is also a major problem. Hey GD if he nabs tatsu or tomi does the third personality then fight him in a battle of will to try and regain the body's control? And have the Zoldyck's put us under a do not engage file? Finally would it take much for us to device killua using DDF?
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>>4476655
Revive* not device
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>>4476234
Cold's face when this happens. At that point Cold might search the family tree and whatever instance possible to find whether or not Cooler and Arctus had been swapped during birth.
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>>4476964
Please, Cold is too jaded to hope like that.
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>>4476977
>yfw Cold himself actually falsifies documentation and records to claim Arctus as his real son and not Cooler

Who needs hope when you control the narrative?
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>>4477006
He still knows the shame of being responsible for BIIIIIITCH. Nothing can wash that stink away, not even Cooler's tears could do it from his time out chair.
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>>4477014
That's where wishing Cold's ancient scars would be erased and allow his full power to return so he can personally wipe Cooler from existence comes into play.

Truly who could stand up to Golden Final Form 100% Full Power King Cold? Aside from his prodigal son Frieza of course. Really it'd probably be Final Form King Cold Jedi Master Resurgence which is also dope as fuck
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>>4477021
Grey Jedi more accurately, but yeah, force lord Cold would give Baby Cooler the shakes from shear fear of daddy's belt.
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QM UPDATE

Unfortunately something’s come up, and I will be unable to start the next episode this weekend. I apologize for the late notice, but some things are out of my control.
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>>4477178
It's fine man, do what you need too.
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>>4477178
Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh fuck.
It can't be helped I guess, I don't know your life.
Handle your business man, we'll stick around.
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It’s fine GD. We will be here next week.
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>>4477178
Hopefully your sister didn't hit the car again, wish you luck in whatever it is
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>>4477179
>>4477180
>>4477222
>>4477224
Again I apologize, but have to finish getting my grandmother’s place ready to sell while everyone’s here in town today. Thankfully no one else’s wrecked (yet)
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>>4477280
You say that, but women have a higher chance of proving any male that says those words wrong.
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Rolled 1983 + 500 (1d2000 + 500)

>>4477771
rolling for the damages GD's sister managed to do to the family car today.
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>>4477794
....sounds legit.
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>>4477794
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Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>4477794
Rolling for the quality of their insurance
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>>4477971
Better than mine, which isn't saying much.
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>>4477771
Why I’d added the >(yet)
>>4477794
Heh
>>4477971
At this point I’m honestly surprised she still HAS insurance.
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>>4478204
Women have alot of things, insurance is just guaranteed income for insurance companies.
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>>4478889
Wouldn't that be their only form of income in the first place?
Also not that I mean to derail this into a /pol/ matter but with the mess that it has been out there what with businesses being looted and burned I suspect insurance companies are the ones needing an insurance right now
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>>4478975
Fuck em, middle man leaches are fighting tooth an nail to not pay out a dime. Damn shame about the owners stores getting Shitted. Hell some of them were black owned and they still got Shitted. Also Shitted is another word for n, I'd say it but the sensitivity fuckers are looking out for that outside adult boards. Fucking bunch of idiots, all of them.
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>>4478975
My aunt owns an insurance company that deals with a lot of businesses in my city, they’re losing their minds right now. I feel bad for her and all, but those riots were damn fun to watch from my balcony.
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>>4479054
I feel no pity for them, even less for cash loan agencies.
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Again sorry I haven’t been around this weekend, I’d have much rather been here and running the next episode. On the plus side, I will(hopefully) finish this epilogue. Who’s ready to witness Chaya vs the Hive Queen?
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>>4479273
Shit really? Hive Queen herself is coming out for this? Thought the little shit would run away at this point.
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>>4479273
>Who’s ready to witness Chaya vs the Hive Queen?

I'm not. She's gunna get cocky and fucked up, I'm calling it now, they should have had Broly fight her.

Also its fine GD. IRL takes priority.
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>>4479273
I am, the Hive queen is the perfect way for chaya to hone her wis stat as I hope we will see the more BS moves and units Xenos have if the queen is at risk
>Also guys am I the only one suspicious that the hive seems to have deployed no saiyan xeno? They do have acidic blood proof body so digestion is unlikely
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>>4479319
>Implying Broly isn't already occupied with an entire horde of xenos just to cover for Chaya
And obviously Chilli is out incinerating the egg chambers.
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>>4479389
This true, him and Megu are deleting eggs and they're guardians, and Broly is off having a Conan moment on some hill somewhere, Sunshine trio watching on as he beats off the thirsty bug thot hordes.
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>>4479402
>and Broly is off having a Conan moment on some hill somewhere
Be careful what you wish for. He is trying to emulate us after all, and look how often we end up almost dying.
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>>4479419
True, but we weren't such a brick shithouse at his age, plus he's Captain Salda, with a great shield, so he's already more responsible for his life than we are at his age. Honestly speak, I'm more worried about Chilli, Megu's mom is going to be teaching her some stuff to keep him from running off and almost dying. He pulls an us with bullet hell lightshows that makes hardened coin dumpers blush.
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>>4479428
Man all of our kids seemed to have inherited at least one of our bad habits.
It's always a challenge trying to get them to see that.
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>>4479431
And our daughters have that buried Yandere side that hasn't been addressed. At least our sons are going to get accidental harems for being goofy an heros.
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>>4479436
>And our daughters have that buried Yandere side that hasn't been addressed
If only Raditz knew.
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>>4479447
Right now he's doing to his damndest to out lift her in case...when she needs someone to pull her ass out the fire. Not like he looks at any other girls anyways.
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>>4479457
>Not like he looks at any other girls anyways
Obviously he's discerning about his mates. Maybe the other girls should get better at fighting if they want attention.
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>>4479464
Aside from Chaya's little sisters does he know any other girls? Chaya's singing coach notwithstanding.
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>>4479468
If they're not regulars at the arena at New Salda or the Dreadzone, he probably doesn't.
Shame too, most girls his age would go nuts over somebody swole as fuck with a long head of hair.
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>>4479471
Pretty sure for Saiyan girls its just the being swole thing. Nappa gets ass all the time. But the horde of Chaya fangirls may stalk him by proxy a lot.
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>>4479479
Nappa gets ass for two reasons.
>being swole as fuck (already mentioned)
>that perfectly trimmed mustache
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>>4479483
Can't beat the porn stache, not that saiyans watch porn.
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>>4479491
They just have different standards for it.
I'm sure plenty of well worn holotapes of particularly good fights are stashed under Saiyan mattresses the galaxy over.
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>>4479496
Of course, the Karn school of Fight Fucking is known as far as the Dreadzone Station network can reach as the premier recreational fighting style. The casuals claims its just porn is just a coincidence.
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>>4479496
>tfw half of the video is brutal violence and some tasteful murder
>saiyan chick: ohmygod he is SO good at foreplay
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>>4479672
There is a reason Vegeta had it commissioned, its practical combat training mixed with tips to insure getting pregnant with a mate so more soldiers are born. Its Karn and Meloka tested and approved.
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>>4479282
She wanted to draw Karn out into direct battle, but...Well you’ll see soon enough.
>>4479319
>I'm calling it now, they should have had Broly fight her.
>implying he’s not there too
>>4479382
Just wait and see.
>>4479389
>>4479402
>>4479419
Y’all acting like this isn’t an all-hands-on-deck battle
>>4479428
>so he's already more responsible for his life than we are at his age.
HA
>Honestly speak, I'm more worried about Chilli, Megu's mom is going to be teaching her some stuff to keep him from running off and almost dying.
He’s the most responsible one. Which isn’t surprising, as he’s the current smartest among Karn’s children. Not counting Tomitsu of course, who has 2x the grey matter to work with.
>He pulls an us with bullet hell lightshows that makes hardened coin dumpers blush.
He prefers precise, energy or magic efficient strikes. Chilli isn’t a flashy fighter like his older sister.
>>4479431
More good traits than bad, especially drive to succeed.
>>4479436
>implying only the daughters can have that side
>>4479457
Why would he look at anyone else? She’s already looking at him.
>>4479468
He knows many. But he has spent far, far more time with Chaya, and looks down on those that’re too much weaker than him in the same age range
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>>4480699
>Y’all acting like this isn’t an all-hands-on-deck battle
Oh it's a raid boss huh?
I guess that's exactly the kind of exciting conclusion Vox was counting on.
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>>4480699
>Not counting Tomitsu of course, who has 2x the grey matter to work with.
Not really saying much with those two. Its still the combined smarts of two kids.
>She wanted to draw Karn out into direct battle, but...Well you’ll see soon enough.
Has...has it really not occurred to her that our kids will be killing her themselves?
>Chilli isn’t a flashy fighter like his older sister.
He's still a damn chuuni, just because no one survives his flashiness doesn't mean he isn't flashy.
>implying only the daughters can have that side
I mean, we really haven't seen it in our boys just yet.
>Why would he look at anyone else? She’s already looking at him.
Precisely.
>But he has spent far, far more time with Chaya, and looks down on those that’re too much weaker than him in the same age range
Which is kind of weird considering who his mom is. Speaking of which it just occurred to me, what's it like for her to come back as the top percentile of powerful women?
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>>4480729
>Speaking of which it just occurred to me, what's it like for her to come back as the top percentile of powerful women?
Dude she's like 25K. Most active Saiyan females are hovering around 400K or some shit.
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>>4480744
She was eating tree of might fruit, so she's closer to Bardock before we bullied him into going into the gym proper.
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>>4480752
To be fair, we didn't really have to do much to get his ass back in the gym.
I feel like all he needed was the opportunity, and God knows how lackluster the equipment at the Dreadzone was compared to the Gravity Chambers on Planet Vegeta at the time.
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>>4480785
Pretty sure it was post New Salda invasion to take it from the Wookies is when the duel happened.
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>>4480797
Regardless, it was only a matter of time before Bardock got back on the grind after he got out of the Dreadzone.
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>>4480799
Well that's obvious, but besides the point when talking about Gine.
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>>4480699
>Y’all acting like this isn’t an all-hands-on-deck battle
You did say 'Chaya Vs The Hive Queen' which implied it was sort of a duel because thats how this shit normally goes, not 'Chaya POV for the climate raid boss end of the war'.
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>>4480715
This is worse than he expected.
>>4480729
You’ll see why.
True enough. But he learned his lessons, keep the chuuni in check when in life-or-death battles
Raditz has always been this way though. The weak get trampled, and are forced to submit to the strong.
>>4480752
She wanted tue kids to have more of it than she did. Although it got her well over her previous reading of 500.
>>4480859
Of course I did, as you won’t be reading the battle from everyones’ minds.
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>>4481067
>But he learned his lessons, keep the chuuni in check when in life-or-death battles
Good boy, and he didn't need his girl to break his pelvis to keep him safe and clear headed.
>The weak get trampled, and are forced to submit to the strong.
He knows several people in Chaya's family that don't behave like that. Or at least, for that specific way of thinking.
>Although it got her well over her previous reading of 500.
With how many planets they ate it isn't a surprise. How many was it anyways?
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>>4481087
That’s wrong tho, Karn himself repeatedly backs up that philosophy, it’s why he trains his kids so hard.

So they will be safe, and strong enough to choose their own destiny, rather then have a destiny forced on them like the Saiyans Of his generation did.
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>>4481106
A good example of that is the battle plan scene for Sanghellios in episode 138
>“Quite the conundrum we have ourselves here. We have to assault the largest enemy force in space yet, then completely conquer while not destroying the planet below. Not an easy task we have on our hands, Lord Freeza.”
“Were it easy, I’d have dispatched the Ctarl-Ctarl.” Freeza replies, several people chuckling at that. “But now we have to figure out how to assault this massive fortress. Any ideas?”
The Ctral-Ctarl are seem as stupid, weaklings with a measly 10 times moon based transformation in the PTO, seems familiar to you?
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>>4481684
Kinda wished we had a chance to see those Cat Tards, see if they had a princess or two for our boys. All magic nerds need a cat.
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>>4481087
>and clear headed.
Magic requires crystal-clear focus, and part of his learning magic from Raven was intense mental control.
>Or at least, for that specific way of thinking.
But that’s wrong. Karn stresses strength, as the strong can choose how to live. The weak don’t get to choose, they do as the strong want or die.
>>4481106
Yes.
>>4481684
>The Ctral-Ctarl are seem as stupid, weaklings with a measly 10 times moon based transformation in the PTO, seems familiar to you?
>someone saw the parallel I made weeks ago
>>4482014
Why would you do that to your kids?
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>>4482091
>Why would you do that to your kids?
Because catgirl familiars are a staple of dex mage nerds.
>Magic requires crystal-clear focus, and part of his learning magic from Raven was intense mental control.
You already know what I meant, but noted all the same.
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QM UPDATE

Eight full posts are finished, at this rate the epilogue will be ready this Thursday. And hoo boy, it just gets more and more intense.

>>4482130
Ha, but no. Besides, Megumin already has Chomusuke.
Chilli is the most level-headed of Karn’s children, hell he’s the most level-headed among all the Saiyans who’re not yet adults.
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>>4482471
>Ha, but no. Besides, Megumin already has Chomusuke.
Chomusuke is her familiar, Chilli doesn't have one
>inb4 he accidentally summons a succubus and causes it misery from his dense harem protag powers
>Chilli is the most level-headed of Karn’s children, hell he’s the most level-headed among all the Saiyans who’re not yet adults.
Has he made any friends outside of Megu and Tanya(relatively speaking of course), besides the Sunshine Trio?
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If Beerus is coming in 8 years, then it’s time for us to make a big decision.

Who are we going to empower with the Super Saiyan God ritual to fight Beerus?

Using it on Karn means it’ll be easier to achieve Berserk 3, but GD says we can theoretically attain it without the ritual.

Vegeta and Bardock are off the table.

Meloka would be be the best choice so far given her already excellent ki control, which would air her in achieving Blue.

Leyas and Sarada are ineligible due to the demon stuff they have going on IIRC.

I have no idea how strong Nappa is right now but I wouldn’t completely throw him off the table. I can’t think of any particular advantages of picking him though.

Even if Turles gets off his ass and starts hardcore training for there next 8 years nonstop, I doubt he’ll be able to catch up.

The kids (ours, Bardock’s, and Turles’s daughter) could be strong enough to be viable candidates by then. Chaya’s arrogance HAS to be dealt with by then for me to feel comfortable picking her for the ritual though. Beerus isn’t someone to fuck around with.
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>>4483351
There's really no reason to have anyone but Meloka get it.
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>>4483351
Honestly I expect Karn to go through it regardless of us choosing to focus on Emerald Oozaru/Berserker 3, he makes the most sense IC, and it also allows us to IC learn how the SSG Ritual affects Berserkers.

From there, I'd say Meloka does it, and then Vegeta. Going by that old Epilogue, the more faith in belife the saiyans have in you, the stronger the SSG, and Meloka is our wife who helped lead the charge so often, and Vegeta is their freaking king.

So thats my thoughts on it. I don't think anyone else should get it in our generation to avoid splitting the power too much, which also carries over to our kids generation, and them not having as much 'faith' as the other options possible.
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>>4483351
Meloka should obviously be the one to get SSG.
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>>4483351
>Who are we going to empower with the Super Saiyan God ritual to fight Beerus?
Well, in-character we'd probably choose ourselves. It does make the most sense, and Karn wouldn't be aware of the fact that it won't work.
And once the ritual does fail on us, it's a toss-up between Meloka and Vegeta.
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>>4483502
>Super Saiyan Goddess of Fertility Meloka
The dream is coming closer lads.
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Actually a question about the SSG Ritual GD. When its successful, exactly how Divine does it make the recipient? Are we talking like full on Divine Figures as much as the Kais, or more like a weird IC Demi-God Status?
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>>4482479
>Has he made any friends outside of Megu and Tanya(relatively speaking of course), besides the Sunshine Trio?
Not particularly. He prefers training and studying magic to socializing with his “peers”.
>>4483351
>Using it on Karn means it’ll be easier to achieve Berserk 3, but GD says we can theoretically attain it without the ritual.
It is technically possible.
>Vegeta and Bardock are off the table.
Why?
>Meloka would be be the best choice so far given her already excellent ki control, which would air her in achieving Blue.
She would have the second-easiest time attaining Blue from God among those you know.
>Leyas and Sarada are ineligible due to the demon stuff they have going on IIRC.
An important fact to remember.
>Beerus isn’t someone to fuck around with.
Kinda the opposite of that though. Beerus isn’t to be taken lightly, but he’s not a super-serious character amongst the mortals when not working.
>>4483403
Better question would be: when Beerus shows up, would Karn in-character DENY the chance to power up closer to the God of Destruction?
>>4483598
>exactly how Divine does it make the recipient?
That’s a good question. But you’d have to ask someone who’s attained that power, as I can’t reveal it otherwise yet. But I can give you a hint: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
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>>4483825
Yeah Karn would never IC deny the power needed to face Beerus.

>Spoiler
You cheeky shit.
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>>4483825
I'm worried about our kids becoming antisocial at this rate..
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>>4483825
>when Beerus shows up, would Karn in-character DENY the chance to power up closer to the God of Destruction?
Absolutely not. Karn would never pass up what's essentially a free power-up on paper, nor would he refuse if New Salda was on the line.
>>4483832
It sounds like they're all interacting with other people their age plenty. Chilli's just always been a little...quiet. I have to wonder if we didn't accidentally give him confidence issues way back when.
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>>4483832
Chilli just likes to be alone
>>4483839
>I have to wonder if we didn't accidentally give him confidence issues way back when.
I think about that pretty often.
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>>4483844
>I think about that pretty often.
Same. That one question he asked was probably the most painful part of this quest for me.
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>>4483839
I suppose, but even out of character we know they barely speak to anyone outside the family baring Chaya's acquaintances with Raditz, which doesn't count as he hasn't married Chaya yet. The demon half of the family for that one weekend. Chilli is more of a super hero in the Weeb clan, and a breeding stub before that. Or they talk to our co-workers on occasion. Beyond that, Tatsu and Tomi are more social, by the fact they regularly interact with other kids at all, even then its ruined by whatever fuckshit is going on in they're heads.
>I have to wonder if we didn't accidentally give him confidence issues way back when.
>>4483844
>Chilli just likes to be alone
>>4483849
Yeah, we absolutely gave him a small inferiority complex because ya'll kept having us go do other things before he hit us with Planetary Destruction level feels. But we did somewhat address it, but now I think it went in the opposite direction after meeting his half siblings. I'm worried he is putting the burden of saving them on his shoulders by himself because he's the only one with magic. I don't want him to isolate himself from others till he accidentally goes nuts from studying magic. Megu can point him in the right direction sometimes, but he's smart enough to give her the run around after watching us deal with Meloka.
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>>4483870
>I don't want him to isolate himself from others till he accidentally goes nuts from studying magic.
>Sees Crystal Magic users lore.
>Concern.jpg
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>>4483881
Precisely why I said something, where is he getting the spells from, himself...or Big Hat Logan's texts?
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>>4483870
>but even out of character we know they barely speak to anyone outside the family baring Chaya's acquaintances with Raditz
Saiyans as a whole kinda suck at socializing outside of fighting each other, and all of our children seem to do plenty of that with the other kids.
You have to put it into perspective, how bad could it really be compared to the other Saiyan kids?
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>>4483884
>where is he getting the spells from, himself...or Big Hat Logan's texts?
I think he just figures them out from using the aquamarine dagger as a catalyst. The one that spooked Towa bytheway
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>>4483825
>Why?
Didn’t you say pursuing Primal means the God ritual doesn’t work on them? They’ve both gone Primal once at this point.
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>>4483884
>Big Hat Logan
Of all the fucking names I didn't want to hear, that's gotta be one of the worst.
Best case scenario is that he manages to discover Seeth's secrets a lot faster based on Logan's notes
But even then, something about those crystals seems to breed madness after a while.
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>>4483886
They have groups and at least associate with each other when not fighting, only the morons with axes to grind or the tards going super for the first time and think they're hot shit talk to our kids.
>>4483890
Which is good, but that shit has a cost. Especially if his goal is to supplant the Supreme Kai of time.
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>>4483894
Logan's notes on what Seeth fucking did is WHY he went off the deep end, hell the Dragon was just a barely functioning beast when he completed his goal.
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>>4483896
>Which is good, but that shit has a cost. Especially if his goal is to supplant the Supreme Kai of time.
Honestly that should be something we should be talking more about.
Shin's about ready to get ousted from his position soon if he doesn't shape up.
As far as I know, the most likely usurper is Kars.
He's probably already stronger than Shin at this point, and I can't imagine he'll keep up his act once we finally settle the score with him in a duel.
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>>4483901
See, I thought it had more to with the absolute isolation they both imposed on themselves while they were researching crystal magic.
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>>4483908
I SAID IT ONCE I'LL SAY IT A THOUSAND TIMES, WE NUKE THE FUCKER TO OBLIVION!
>>4483912
The isolation my have been more of a natural character trait they both share, but it was unequivocally the things they learned for that immortality that drove them mad. Hell the books in his library can kill you in DS3.
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>>4483827
You’re welcome.
>>4483832
Of them all, Chilli is the most antisocial by far. Due to almost everyone within five years of his age being noticeably less intelligent than himself. He can’t really have conversations at his level with most people, really only Megumin and Raven understand him very well on New Salda. Caulifla is the opposite of antisocial, and has made friends with most of your planet’s inhabitants. Including the Jiralhanae, who many Saiyans still won’t go near.
>>4483839
>Chilli's just always been a little...quiet. I have to wonder if we didn't accidentally give him confidence issues way back when.
He knows who he is, and what he fights for. And while he isn’t social, he is certainly confident in himself.
>>4483844
>>4483849
Most children are insecure, in one regard or another. But not many are brave enough to speak out.
>>4483870
>I'm worried he is putting the burden of saving them on his shoulders by himself because he's the only one with magic.
A heavy burden to bear. But he may have learned he isn’t alone in that fight.
>>4483881
>>Sees Crystal Magic users lore.
>>Concern.jpg
A mad Chilli would be an absolute terror.
>>4483886
Most children would grow up among each other, not really in individual family ‘units’ outside royalty.
>>4483890
He also has Raven’s help, and her spellbook gifted to her by Aku.
>>4483894
Big Hat Logan was a smart guy, but not very wise. He couldn’t see HOW that magic was affecting his mind, obsessed with knowledge and finding out more without even considering the consequences.
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>>4483908
Honestly with Kars it depends. If he knows about the Multiverse and the Supreme Kai/Destroyer Bond and Zeno and all, he'll probably buy his time to further secure his own divine knowledge and power, and ensure that Whis and Beerus find him more useful then they do Shin. When that will happen? Who knows. Kars can wait for millennia as easily as we humans can wait for an hour. Its no big deal for him.

Though it should be said, that while Kars is the most likely Usurper, Karn, Meloka, Vegeta, Bardock, most of the other SS3s/Golden Oozarus, and Golden Freeza could all hand shin his own ass before he even notices he lost it.

As for Chilli, I think hes fine, Raven and Yoda's Hollocron is there to keep an eye on him, and Megumin is there too for what its worth, along with Towa when she can manage it, so I don't think we have to worry about him going off the deep end magically speaking.

As for his social life? Some people are just introverts. Maybe give him a push or two to make more friends with other magical users we may meet or something but generally just let him live his life how he pleases.

>>4483917
Kars > Shin

Seriously dude you've been like a rabid dog whenever Kars comes up for over a fucking IRL year now. Chill out.
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I really think it’s about time we show Shin how outclassed he is compared to us and others in the universe. He desperately needs a large dose of humbleness.
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>>4483925
Yeah, Chilli is a genius among idiots, we need to find some smart kids to talk with him....hmmm, is there a Space Hogwarts? Maybe Space Fairy Tail? Not counting Eden Zero for that.
>Caulifla being best Angel
Well she's exceptional in alot of ways in this circus of a family.
>A heavy burden to bear. But he may have learned he isn’t alone in that fight.
I would hope so, but even then I am still worried.
>A mad Chilli would be an absolute terror.
The stuff nightmares are made of.
>>4483931
I'll take a Karn trained Shin over Kars any day.
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>>4483952
>I'll take a Karn trained Shin over Kars any day
You remember how fucking annoyed he got when we called him out for his obvious fuck up?
He will not agree to any training from us or anybody younger than him.
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>>4483956
An ass beating does not require consent, nor does it care for age.
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>>4483956
>He will not agree to any training from us or anybody younger than him.
He definitely will once we whoop his ass. Shin changed his attitude pretty quick in canon when he saw Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan flex their power a bit.
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>>4483961
>An ass beating does not require consent, nor does it care for age.
Truer words have never been spoken.
That said, I'm not sure if being digging our size 18 boot out of his divine ass will make him anymore humble.
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>>4483966
Maybe. Maybe. But we have a Meloka.
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>>4483961
Sure it doesn't. But what do you think happens when Whis sees we're whooping the ass of Beerus's only lifeline?

Totally unrelated question. How grumpy do you think Beerus would be if he was forced to wake up early?
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>>4483972
>How grumpy do you think Beerus would be if he was forced to wake up early?
We’re dead
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>>4483976
Exactamundo. Offer to fight Shin if he has issues with us, MAKE SURE WE DON'T GO LETHAL, and or offer him training if he wants to step up.

Don't just start beating his ass or Beerus will Hakai us for threatening his life by extension.
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>>4483978
I'm not even thinking about killing Shin until Buu is dealt with.
As incompetent as he is, he's still somewhat important as far as Babidi and Buu are concerned.
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>>4483972
>>4483978
>>4483976
We don't actively kill our students, we kick they're ass, your jumping the gun assuming we'll just kill him.
Ergo, assbeatings without consent required.
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>>4483984
>Thinking Shin/Whis/Beerus will accept 'its just training' as an excuse if we just start beating the shit out of Shin without his consent.

Dude don't be a idiot. That won't fly in quest. These aren't saiyans.
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>>4483978
>>4483983
Honestly, we don’t even need to harm Shin to shrink his ego. If we started smacking Buu around like a rag doll Shin would break out of his delusions and wisen up.
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>>4483994
Ideally Babadi dies before Buu is ever released. I have no idea how the fuck we'd manage to kill him without the spirit bomb and I don't want anyone pulling some magical sacrifice sealing bullshit.

Also GD, I found this really cool quote on Perfection, and it seems really interesting to me for Mira and Cell beings designed to be 'perfect'.

>"Perfection is only perfection if it strives to be more perfect than it currently is. Perfection is not a state, its a process where in one breaks, shattered, and becomes better with each passing day."
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>>4484032
We likely won't need to kill Buu as it will be very apparent that Babidi is the bad influence, we ice him then just leave Buu with Cualifla and that will sort it out nicely. And by the time Shin pulls his head out his ass he would be family, and he'd have to start that fight at that point.
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>>4484038
Buu himself isn't the problem.
It's the people he absorbs that make him a menace.
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>>4484038
>>4484039
Evil Buu would like a word.

And no
>>4484038
>by the time Shin pulls his head out his ass he would be family, and he'd have to start that fight at that point.

Thats not how shit works. An assault on Shin, which this would be, would trigger Whis, who would Trigger Beerus, who pulls the trigger on us and potentially our entire planet.

DONT. TRY. AND. BEAT. SHINS. ASS. WITHOUT. HIS. OR. WHIS. CONSENT.
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>>4484045
Only if we killed him or were about to kill him you bitch, Whis knows the difference between a fight to the death and an asswhupping. We will beat Shin. Preferably in front of a live audience.
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>>4484045
>Evil Buu would like a word.
Only comes out when pushed passed Innocent Buu.
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>>4484049
*sigh* I see your as autistic about this as you are about Kars. I'm just gunna ignore you and be glad most of the players have better sense.

>>4484053
>Only comes out when pushed passed Innocent Buu.
And what do you think would happen the first time Karn almost dies near him and Buu flips out?
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>>4484065
>Talks about sense
>What if Karn almost dies
>Karn Endgame
>Karsfag
Typical, but regardless.
For my morbid curiosity how would that situation occur? Shin can't beat us, Freeza cares about us too much to think about killing Karn, and Babidi can't find anyone stronger to revive Buu now that hell invasion failed.
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>>4484070
You think that just because Karn will get access to Primal or Berserker God that he won't still almost die in his fights?

Time shit, That fucking Undead Dragon that still isn't gone, Zamasu, A Manus Fragment, The Goat, and whatever else GD wants to throw at us.

Karn almost always dies, even when he's right now the 4th strongest mortal in the universe, only beaten out by Golden Freeza and Primal Vegeta and Bardock, hell we saw shit just last thread when we were in danger of dying to the bloodstone in our chest.

Karn is always going to be in danger, his End Game just means that those that could kill him are fewer, not nonexistant, and once that happens Buu would lose his fucking much.
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>>4484076
We just gotta not roll like shit when it matters. Problem solved, Buu befriending is a go.
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>>4484076
No, I think we don't need either to kick shin's ass you braindead redditor. Nor do we require either for Buu. You are the only one assuming we are going to kill Shin, which to be fair, we could, but you are also assuming Whis gives a flying fuck what happens to him so long as Beerus doesn't die. Because Kars is still walking. He knows Shin needs a lesson, and at most he will inform Beerus when he wakes up naturally.
Time shit is a choice, but one Buu won't be around for that often. The Undead Dragon is gone, we don't know who took it, besides Babidi not having it. Zamasu hasn't happened yet, and we have Dragon Force to kill him. And being a pussy about whatever else GD could throw is going no where as by that logic we should be afraid 24/7.
He almost dies by bullshit or medical conditions these days, That isn't an excuse because regardless of you wetting your pants, we are going out anyways, unless the Doctor tells us not too, and that is still just a maybe.
We will be raising Buu ourselves at that point if he even comes back as you so feverishly believe. Listen well you pathetic Karsfag, do not doubt our Dadding.
>>4484095
IF, he even comes back.
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>>4484107
Well said
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*Sigh* I can't even a discussion without massive autism coming out. I don't know why I forgot where I was, or why I bothered to keep trying, when someone so autistic clearly has no desire to even meet me halfway.
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>>4484138
It’s hilarious watching you two brick walls argue
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>>4484138
>Can't think of a comeback
>Still trying to have the last word
Well at least you got the autism part right, and if it makes you feel better I enjoyed blowing you out.
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>>4483931
In character, Kars does NOT know about Shin’s link to Beerus’s life. Shin is weaker than Perfect Cell/Super Saiyan Goku when they fought in the Cell Games.
Regarding Chilli, he’s much, MUCH more mentally stable than Seath and Logan. And unlike them, who sought knowledge for knowledge’s sake, he has a definitive purpose.
>tfw anons worried about Chilli’s social life
>tfw Chilli has more irl friends than you
>>4483950
If Karn doesn’t humble him, others will. It is not a matter of if, but when.
>>4483952
Caulifla is very exceptional. And perhaps, but Karn hasn’t heard of anything like that except Megumin’s planet. Where Chilli fits in much better.
>>4483961
Someone make this a banner
>>4483976
He would be in a really bad mood. Planets tend to disappear when he’s in a bad mood.
>>4483994
Karn thrashing his actual nightmare in the flesh, and not getting beat to hell in return would certainly open Shin’s eyes.
>>4484032
They are designed to surpass everything before them, and become stronger on their own. Why else would Cell have every single technique and training regimin already built into his brain?
>>4484038
Amaya and Hercule both in seperate timelines proved that the complete Majin Buu can be won over, without Babidi’s influence.
>>4484045
>>4484049
Whis doesn’t necessarily interfere to protect Shin. See DBS’s Future Trunks timeline for all the proof of that you need. Remember it takes Whis around 20-25 minutes to travel from Beerus’s planet to Earth, and Dabura killed Shin in that timeline without Trunks ever meeting the angel.
>>4484070
>Babidi can't find anyone stronger to revive Buu now that hell invasion failed.
>implying implications
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>>4484243
>tfw anons worried about Chilli’s social life
>tfw Chilli has more irl friends than you
Stop that, I'm still coming to terms with the detective responsible for my case is likely conspiring with the meth head neighbor to try and pin me for her theft. I don't need to think about the fact everyone I know is in the opposite direction I live now.
>And perhaps, but Karn hasn’t heard of anything like that except Megumin’s planet. Where Chilli fits in much better.
Sooo, Weeb Magic school arc for Chilli when?
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-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 141 Epilogue-

AGE 749, HIVE HOMEWORLD

“TEEYAAAAAA!!” your little sister shouts, her sword of flames flashing and decapitating another half-Hive half-people creature. Another of the vile creatures leaps at her back, but as it does the beast simply ignites.
“GRRRAAAAAA!!” Broly roars, your brother slamming his shield forward deeper into the mass of Halflings between you all and the enemy stronghold. His power is unrivaled amongst the enemy, and even his siblings, bowling dozens upon dozens of them over. Right behind the massive wall that is your brother comes Megumin, the explosion archmage unleashing massive blasts on the other side of Broly’s shield. Caulifla protects her with fire, keeping the enemy off both her and Broly while he pushes deeper into their ranks. Bringing up the rear of this formation is Chilli, your super-smart magical younger brother. With his ice magic he slows the enemy trying to close in on them, keeping the horde from overwhelming them all while keeping pace and efficiently fighting with his back to the others.

And above this rock-solid formation, keeping your friends and family safe, is you. Dreadzone’s unstoppable, undefeated Champion, Chaya. The oldest of your siblings, you have defended your tile of Champion against monsters, filthy splitjaws, robots, and even wizards for the past four years. But this is the most intense season finale you’ve seen yet. And for the first time, you’re not ending this season alone.

“Double Sunday!” Raditz shouts, firing a pair of his pink energy beams down onto the forces trying to flank Broly. Both his beams slaughter dozens of the creatures, launching even more of them helplessly airborne. Where they’re picked off by General Tanya and her lieutenants, flying hundreds of feet firther above you all and out of the fray where they’re safer. They won’t be much help once inside the fortress, but in there the enemy’s overwhelming number advantage won’t much matter. After more than two weeks of battle on the Hive’s supposed homeworld, Vox’s people had finally found the enemy’s actual stronghold. A massive ship, shaped much like the Lucrehulk you’d seen from Vox’s recordings on New Salda, had crashed to this world ages ago. And deep beneath it rests their leader, who is telepathically linked to her people. If you manage to kill her, then the rest of the Hive will fall. Like a snake without the head, this battle will finally be over. Which is for the best. After all, this isn’t that much fun for you anymore.
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>>4485095
You miss the days when you were able to spar with your siblings, and not worry about an enemy trying to kill you in your sleep. Ever since the defenses were breached you’ve been on constant high-alert, your entire body sore from the days of constant, unending tension. But after today, it will all finally be over.

“HAAAA!!” you shout, firing one of your projectile punches down at a Halfling leaping for Megumin. Your shot takes the monster right in the back, pinning it to the ground for your sister to swiftly stab it through the head, ending it’s life instantly. Right now your job is to simply support your siblings, who are to use Broly’s shield and power to bust into the ancient space vessel. Once there Tanya and her team will back off, resupplying while the robots and contestants attack. That’s when your real work will begin.
“You’re almost there!” Tanya shouts directly into your Scouter. “Just another hundred meters!”

And as she shouts, a massive spike of the Hive creatures’ black chitinous armor is shot from the vessel, aimed right at your family. It moves too fast for you to get in the way, but thankfully you don’t have to. After the ships had been shot at with these weapons before, you all knew to expect them. And Broly is ready. Planting his feet he roars, aura surging as he unleashes his full, Ascended power. His sudden spike in energy knocks everyone nearby, allies and enemies alike as he raises the shield. Now it will be put to it’s greatest test of this war: ancient weapon vs ancient armor. The massive projectile closes the distance within a second or two, Broly pitting his immense power against it.

KABOOM

The impact is tremendous, unleashing a sonic boom that sends Tanya and her soldiers back and forces you and Raditz to brace yourselves. The attack knocked up a massive cloud of smoke around the impact area, you sweeping it aside worriedly. The spear didn’t shatter, and as you sweep the dust away you see why.

“BROLY!!!” you cry, the giant lance’s tip having pierced straight through both Broly and his shield! Yet despite being impaled with an anti-spaceship weapon he yet stands, now holding the entire spear’s weight to keep it from tearing him in two. Pieces of his shield lay scattered around him, the dome-like wall’s front having been repeatedly melted and weakened by Hivelings’ acid blood. “HOLD ON!!”
“Glurk!” he coughs up blood, entire body trembling as his strength pours from his body. You rush down, Raditz hot on your tail as you land beside your brother. Broly doesn’t turn towards you, but speaks with his remaining effort. “H-Hurry!”
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>>4485100
“RADI!” you shout, grabbing onto the spear. “On three! One!”
“Two!” he shouts, grabbing in on the other side as fire rains down from Tanya’s squad and Chilli erects a massive crystal wall around you all. Then, together you and Raditz shout. “THREE!!”
“GAAAAAAH!!” Broly roars in pain, flopping backwards limply as you and Radits pull the spike free. Together you both leap into the air, focusing on the ship’s tube the weapon was fired from.
“Let’s kill these bastards!” you shout furiously, Raditz not answering. But you know he’s ready too, the two of you throwing the massive ammunition back at the ruined ship. “GRRRYAAAAAA!!”

“GRROOAAAAAR!!” he bellows, you both launching the spike back where it came. And surprisingly it doesn’t hit the ship, as it fires a second round down at your brother. Fortunately your shot was fast enough, the two shots colliding and shattering in a shower of chitinous black slivers. But their firing on your brothers and sister again broke something inside you, your rage burning red-hot. And without hesitation you roar, golden sparks dancing around your body as you bulk up into your Ultra form.

“That’s it!” you roar, throwing your arms wide. “Fuck you, and fuck your ship!”
“We doin’ this?” Raditz asks, then you feel his power surging as well. As you slam your palms together, energy mixing and redoubling upon itself, Raditz does the same as he floats shoulder-to-shoulder with you. “Fucking finally! We should have done this from the start!”
”FINAL FLASH!!!” you both roar, unleashing your twin unstoppable, golden beams together. The power you both are outputting is astonishing, strong enough to even overpower Broly. But as your attack charges forward, you suddenly feel it ram into something. You can’t see what, as the world before you is blindingly bright from yours and Raditz’s energies. But the answer comes soon enough.
“Dammit Chaya, I was right! The entire vessel is shielded!” Tanya shouts in your ear. “I don’t know how much juice is has to run on either, as-“

“I! Don’t! CARE!!” you shout over her, forcing even more of your power into the attack. “I’m sick and tired of these fucking bugs on this fucking planet!!”
“AHAHAHAHAA!” Raditz laughs beside you, matching your own output. And after another second or two you feel it, the shield beginning to buckle and waver under the pressure of your combined assault. “NOW! HAAAAAAAAA!!”
“HYAAAAAAAA!!”
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>>4485101
And as you both throw everything into the attack the enemy’s shields fail, it shattering under the weight of yours and Radits’s combined powers. Your entwined golden beam obliterates the ancient vessel, and a chunk of the surrounding planet as well. But you got it, the enemy fortress has been-wait. You can sense something. Something powerful, who’s essence had been shielded by the ship’s barriers and who knows what else? But now you feel something strong, deeper below where the ship was. As you feel that power on your ki senses you power down, returning to your normal Ascended Saiyan form as Raditz does the same. You both look at each other, you seeing his eyes are wide open and he no doubt feels that too. This will be harder than you thought.

Fortunately the lesser Hive creatures all scatter, and even the Halflings swiftly clear the way between you all and where the former ship was. Clearly they don’t want to get between whatever that is and you all. Leaving no doubt whatsoever in your mind that it is ready to fight you all. Then before your eyes a massive explosion of power roars out, a beam of pure white light blasting into the sky from the wide crater. You watch the powerful aura, you and Raditz dropping down on either side of the now-healed Broly and all share sideways glances. There’s no doubt about it, this power is that of their newest queen. And it’s frankly terrifying. The entire planet rumbles at the Hive Queen’s might, you all bracing yourselves to see the largest, most monstrous Hive beast yet. But what floats up and out of the crater surprises all of you. It’s a woman, who seems to be wearing a white dress. But as she drifts closer, you see it’s part dress, and part chitin, her armor pale white in stark contrast to the other Hive beings.

“Foolish children.” she says, her voice sweet, soothing, yet somehow carrying to you as if standing as close as Raditz. “You have disturbed Father’s rest. And for that, I must destroy you.”

And without another word she simply lifts a hand towards you, and the world goes white. Your closed eyes feel like they’re on fire, which is the least of your worries as so too does everything else. The raw power of whatever she’s doing is overwhelming, for a moment you’re actually afraid she’ll kill you right here. But that moment passes, as Chilli’s magic does what it does best. One moment you all are being blasted by impossibly-bright light, and the next you find yourself in cool darkness.

“The hell was that?!” Raditz gasps, his voice sounding hoarse. “Bitch almost just burned us all to death.”
“You’re welcome.” Chilli says through gritted teeth. He’s clearly struggling to hold this sphere of dark magic together. “But we need a plan, and fast. I can’t hold her back much longer.”
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>>4485101
“A Barrier should be able to hold another blast like that back.” Broly says, who due to his huge transformed physique took more of that blast than anyone else. Yet despite that and his near-death earlier, he still seems ready to go. “I can rush her from the front, and draw her attention. But I can’t attack her and keep a Barrier going too.”
“I’ll go with you.” Caulifla says, stepping up. “Triumph can shoot right through it.”
“We’ll go at her from the sides.” you say, Raditz nodding once. “Let’s hit her with everything we’ve got!”

“Go!” Chilli shouts, dropping to a knee. And without hesitation you power up, blasting outside the sphere of darkness on the left. Raditz mirrors you on the right while Broly blasts forward, a sphere of brilliant emerald energy surrounding him and Cauli as he rushes directly at her.
“Foolish.” she says, ending the wide blast and lowering her hand. Broly doesn’t lower his shield, still charging straight for her with Cauli hanging tight onto his back. The Hive Queen, however, lifts her right overhead, a pinpoint of blazing-bright light gathering in her first two fingers. You suddenly realize what’s about to happen, shouting to your friends and family.

“GET OUT OF THE WAY!!” you shout, gathering your energy behind your eyes and trying to dash higher into the air. But before you’ve moved even a foot, she unleashes her next attack. Sweeping her hand straight down everything goes white: your body unable to process what just happened to you. Your entire being simply goes numb, senses all muted as you’re left in the dark. For several moments, you even thought you’d actually died. But after several worrying moments your sight begins returning, you finding yourself laying on the ground looking up at the sky. “Wh-Wha...?”

“Oh. You survived.” the Hive Queen says, and after a few seconds she walks into your field of view. Looking down on you she seems even more intimidating, reaching down with a single hand and grabbing you by your armor’s collar. With seemingly little effort she simply lifts you up to her eye level, studying your face intently. “Yes, you are certainly his spawn. Father will be pleased if I bring him your head.”
“F-Father?” you ask her, unable to resist any other way. “Wh-Who?”
“My father was a smart man, and made me solely to kill yours.” she says, smiling smugly down at you. “And since you’re about to die, why not? My father’s name is Nefarious. Doctor Nefarious.”
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>>4485108
“Oh? I see you knew him.” she says, smirking knowingly as your jaw drops. Dr. Nefarious?! Your dad’s old enemy? But he’s dead; he died way back when you first met Raditz. Didn’t he? And almost as if reading your mind, the Hive Queen continues. “Yes, your father tried many times to kill mine. But now I shall kill you, and bring him your head instead. Maybe this will finally wake him fro-“
“Hey, you!!” a small voice, comparatively, shouts. The Hive Queen turns from you, the both of you looking at the tiny form of your younger sister standing defiantly and holding a bolt of powerful lightning overhead in her left hand. Despite you seeing no signs of Broly she seems completely unharmed, not even a scratch on her or her armor. “That’s my sister. Let. Her. Go.”
“Child, you must wait your turn.” she says, dismissing your sister entirely. “You’ll be next, don’t wor-“

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mVrXdcfpJpQ

“GYAAAAAH!!” the Hive Queen cries out in agony, as suddenly a familiar chainsaw bayonet tears deep into the arm holding you. Her blood sprays everywhere, but especially all over the one wielding the saw.
“DYYAAAAAA!!” Tanya snarls in rage and agony. Her bayonet bites deep, nearly severing the Hive Queen’s arm! As her hand goes limp you fall to the ground, and although your entire body is burning in agony you roll desperately away from the queen’s acid blood. Her blood burns your face, especially on the left side, but after a few seconds of rolling in the dirt the sensation seems to go away. You look up, seeing your tiny, golden-eyed friend swinging her weapon’s saw again, this time for the Hive Queen’s neck. Yet despite her injury she’s still dangerous, simply reaching up with her left hand and grabbing it by the now-melted blade.

Tanya doesn’t stick around though, leaping back. In fact she flies away from her towards you as Cauli’s attack connects.

“GAAAAAAAH!!” the Hive Queen shouts, body jerking erratically as the divine electricity courses through her body. But your view is interrupted as Tanya pulls you straight away from the monster for a few seconds. Which is when the grenade Tanya’d somehow attached to her rifle explodes, the shockwave sending the both of you tumbling across the ground.

“TANYA!!” you shout worriedly, struggling to push yourself back up to your feet. Her body’s not anywhere near as strong as yours, that attack may have just killed her.
“I’m h-here.” she says, voice hoarse. But before she can say anything else a dome of crystal envelops you all, and Caulifla begins reciting another prayer. Something about a sun’s light and a princess, but your attention is focused on the smoke cloud where the Hive Queen was. That is, until you feel it. Magical, healing energy begins flowing into your body!
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>>4485110
Within seconds of Caulifla finishing her story your body feels rejuvenated, you rise quickly back to your feet and look around. But that’s when you realize something.

“Hey. Where’s Radi an’ Broly?” you ask, no one answering immediately. You feel your gut drop, fearing the worst as Chilli looks away from you. But befire you can ponder it anymore, or ask anyone else, Chilli’s shield once more comes under fire. Once more the Hive Queen fires an overwhelming beam of energy, but the crystal dome seems to handle it much better than his darkness. In fact you watch as the light of her beam is directed away from you all through the dome, flowing around you all and out the other side as if nothing happened. But you don’t let that distract you long, turning to Caulifla. “Where’s Broly? He was with you, right?”

“When she attacked, I di-disappeared.” she says, looking at her feet. “Triumph burned itself up and brought me back, but now Triumph’s gone. And when I came back here, Broly was gone. I don’t know what happened, you don’t think he-?”

CRACK

Your moment is interrupted by the Hive Queen, who’s one good fist slams into the crystal dome. Cracks spread throughout the shield on her side, the entire structure trembling under the weight of her blow. You turn towards your siblings, who all seem exhausted from the day’s fighting and aren’t in any shape to face this terrible threat. It’s all on you. Momma and Daddy aren’t able to come to your aid, Broly and Raditz are already gone. Everyone’s lives depend on what you do next. You don’t have a choice, you have to end this.

“Chilli. Teleport everybody back to the ship, and get out of here.” you say, the Hive Queen slamming her fist into the dome again. Again it splinters under the blow, tiny shards raining down onto you all. “Get to space, and blast this planet. I’ll hold her off.”
“Sis, you can’t!” Caulifla shouts, you turning and hugging your little sister tight. “Let’s all go together!”
“Someone’s gotta hold her back, so Chilli can cast his spell.” you tell her, squeezing her even tighter a moment before releasing her. “And if I don’t, who will?”
“...Ok.” Chilli says, your little brother sounding broken as he just sighs out. “I’ll need maybe ten, twenty seconds tops with this many of us.”
“Understood.” you reply, clenching your fists and Ascending once more as you turn to face the queen. Transforming for perhaps the last time. “Tell Daddy an’ Momma, that I love them.”
“I will.” Caulifla says, voice breaking as your little sister begins sobbing behind you. But you can’t focus on her, instead gathering your ki into your right fist as you pull it back. You spin your energy tighter and tighter, condensing your energy into the tightest spiral you can manage. And with a final swing, the Hive Queen shatters the front of Chilli’s protective crystal dome. It’s now or never!
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>>4485116
“DIIEEEE!!” you roar, blasting forward and throwing everything you’ve got left into this attack. The spiraling ki of your Champion’s Lance spreads out around you into a piercing cone, thrusting forward like an unstoppable javelin as you charge the Hive Queen. But she’s seemingly ready for your attack, left hand spreading wide as she once more creates a shimmering shield between the two of you. But this time you’re not stopping, especially not for some pitiful shield! Your tight, spiraling point slams into her energy, it spinning against her shield. But after a moment her smug smirk changes to a look of shock, as your attavk begins drilling through her shield! “HYAAAAAAAAHH!!”

“I-Impossible!” she shouts in surprise as your attack defeats her shield, you punching straight through it and into the Hive Queen’s left hand. The blindingly-fast spinning tip easily pierces into her flesh, drilling through and tearing her hand and forearm to shreds in a second. And thanks to the massive amount of energy spiraling around you, her acidic blood is unable to reach you as well. Your piercing attack travels right through her outstretched arm and through the shoulder, sending the Hive Queen tumbling uncontrollably to the ground. But you don’t have time to finish the job, your attack dissipating as your energy drops. You fall flat on the ground, your energy spent as you tumble over a few times until you slide to a stop laying flat on your back. You feel your body reverting back to the normal Super Saiyan form, the golden glow fading from around you as you do. But your job isn’t done yet, you trying your best to force yourself to sit up. But before you can a pale foot stomps your chest, you feeling your ribs break.

“GAAAH!” you cry out, unable to do anything more than scream. It hurts, it hurts so bad, yet you’re at your limit. You can’t do anything to get her foot off, your body has nothing left to-wait, what’s that? Is that...a moon?! “Guuuuuurrrrr.”
“What?” the Hive Queen says, looking down at you curiously. Then everything goes red. The last thing you remember hearing is someone screaming, then there’s nothing but darkness. You find yourself drifting through an empty, timeless void, you not able to move your body.

“So this is what dying’s like?” you think, but of course nothing answers you. You’re truly alone in this place. “I guess it could be worse.”

And almost the instant you have the thought, an unfamiliar voice speaks.

“So, you are his first spawn.” the voice says from somewhere behind you. “From what I’ve seen you do, I must say I’m...Disappointed.”
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>>4485116
“Huh? Who’re you? And where am I?” you ask, willing yourself to turn around. And, to your surprise you do, coming face-to-face with a blue man who reminds you of Auntie Towa. Wrinkled and aged, the ancient being sitting on nothing before you seems perfectly at ease. Yet something about him makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
“Forgive me, where are my manners?” he asks, sounding rather proper for an old demon guy who had a walking stick. Which is also no doubt a magical staff, just like Towa’s. “My name is Mechikabura. And while your ‘Auntie’ Towa has been held captive by the Supreme Kai of Time, I have been looking out for you all. And it’s clearly a good thing I was, else you all would have perished.”

“What do you mean by that?” you ask him, even more confused. “I almost died! And Broly....”
“Is alive.” he says, causing you to gasp in surprise. After what Caulifla’d said, you were certain he was dead! “Quite roughed up, but alive nonetheless. Like your friend, Raditz. It took some subtle work, but I managed to keep both of them alive without alerting Chronoa to my presence. They’re both waiting for you to wake up.”
“Really? Thank you thank you thank you!” you shout, rushing over and hugging the old demon man who’s ki for some reason you can’t sense. But that’s nowhere as surprised as he seems to be by your own actions. “How can I ever thank you?”
“There is one thing you can do.” he says, gesturing towards your right hand. Curious you lift it towards him, the ancient demon gingerly grabbing your hand in both of his. “Grow stronger. I have seen your potential, and what you could one day become. Your brothers and sisters, your friends, and even your very own father’s life will one day depend on you and you alone. So you must become strong enough to protect them all.”

As he says this, an unfamiliar flame-like energy envelops his hands and yours. Yet, despite it’s appearance this energy feels almost cool to the touch. As the flame-like energy quickly travels up your arm and all throughout your body, you feel it. Whatever this power is, it’s strong.

“Here. A small gift, from me to you.” he says, the fiery energy merging with you and the aura swiftly dissipating. “Use this gift to enhance your own training, and rise up to your fullest potential.”
“I will.” you say seriously, nodding to the older creature. As you do, the darkness around you both begins cracking. “Oh, wait! What’s your name again?”
“I am Mechikabura.” he says, smiling and waving as the darkness around you is swiftly consumed by the light. “I’ll be watching you closely, Chaya.”

And with that your eyes open, and you’re awake once more.

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 141 Epilogue End-
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You know, I could comment on alot on this chapter, Chaya's willing sacrifice, Mechikabura playing the long con and 'saving' our kids to get us on his side, but the only thing I can comment on is....Nefarious. Really. Fucking. Really?

Thats the big twist. Thats the big surprise. After all the Nefarious Bots, the surpise death machines, his actual physical death, his fucking Hate Ghosts Death and being sent to Hell, its Nefarious. Again.

GD I'm sorry, I love this quest, but this is incredibly cheap, boring, and a lazy ass cop out in my opinion. It Always, Always, Always fucking Nefarious. Why? Why can't it be a new threat? Why can't it just be a Hive Queen who was naturally stronger and rose up to overthrow the old one? No its Fucking Nefarious, and going by what the Hive Bitch said, he's somehow alive and just in a fucking Coma or something. I don't care if its a Clone, I don't care if its another body double, this is bullshit. This motherfucker died like 70 fucking threads ago after repeated 'deaths' and we sent his fucking soul to hell. FUCKING STOP BRINGING HIM UP.
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>>4485147
Nefarious is long-dead, well and truly gone. Unless you go to hell of course. But since you misunderstood a bit what happened here, maybe I should clarify the timeline and give some behind-the-scenes context:

Dr. Nefarious, at least the one this Hive Queen was made by, is one of his many robots he’d sent across the universe after thread 3’s epilogue waaaaaay back. When the real, organic Nefarious and his lab were destroyed on Kvir’s moon, all his robots and whatever experiments they were doing shut down as well. Unless they had outside help, like the crystal ‘zilla he’d made the Covenant. Which is why she thinks he’s only ‘sleeping’ and not dead, even though it’s been several years now. So once this Nefarious-made abomination became old and strong enough to take control she killed the old queen who Nefarious had allied with and replaced her, intent on filling out her ‘Father’s last wish.

>FUCKING STOP BRINGING HIM UP.
As for this, you’re in luck. This may be a bit spoilery, but here goes: there are only three of his labs left undestroyed that you could run across. One is with the Covenant, that made the big crystal lizard they sent against you in the siege
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>>4485118
Well, I'm convinced. Mechikabura is an honorary brother now. To save our family is one of the greatest goods anyone can do for Karn.
Ready yourself, old man. Because you're about to crack open some cold ones the next time we see you.
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>>4485118
Mechi is actually worrying me now, this fucker might actually be the death of us.
>>4485147
Chill the fuck out, sperganon. Everyone and their mother was expecting Nefarious’ leftover projects to pop up at some point.
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>>4485173
He's trying to get on our good side just because he knows we're the only decent shot Chronoa has at putting him down.
Yeah he's doing us a fucking omega level solid by saving our kids, but I'd like to think Karn is smart enough to figure out why he's being so nice to us as.
Not to mention he'd likely never see us an equal, so that partnership is dead from the get-go.
He gets the boots just like the rest of the divine hierarchy.
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>>4485171
Okay I'm less pissed now, but still pissed, because this is ANOTHER fucking Nefarious Plot. Seriously he's just come up too damn much. We've already thwarted Nefarious Plots 1-15. There comes a time when a single characters after death revenge plots over stay their welcome and that was 5 Plots and a Ghost Army ago. Just stop bringing the fucker up. This fucking Nefarious Meme is the worst thing you've never introduce into this quest.

>>4485173
I'm skeptical as FUCK. I have no doubt that Mechikabura has watched our Karns entire life in this timeline back to back multiple times. He KNOWS Family is the one thing Karn Always Always Always goes Even Further Beyond for. And He's Scared of us, he's Scared of Divine Dragon Force, he placed that barrier on it for a reason, and now he's trying to get in our good graces by saving our kids.

Something Our Towa could have done if she wasn't hiding with the SKoT because Mechikabura's Top Bitch blew up her lab.

I'm still on the fence about Mechikabura, because while he might be the key to keeping our Demon and Saiyan Family together, he could also become even greater threat then the Time Loli is, and he's obviously courting favor with us.

He's friendly now, if he succeeds and has the Time Loli as his pet bitch, will he still be so kind? Remember, this is a Eons Old Demon God. Playing the Long Con for a few decades is nothing for him.

Keep cautious of the guy, don't purposefully antagonize him, but don't just buy into the kindly old man who just wants to help thing either.
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>>4485173
Anon pls
Mechi is gonna fucking kill us the moment we outlive our usefulness.
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>>4485186
The ulterior motives that someone has don't matter. The results matter. And the result here is that he saved the lives of our children. Hell, he defied fate and time to do that. Would Chronoa save our children? Fuck no she wouldn't.
Even if he's rubbing his hands together like a supreme jewlord and snickering to himself about how clever of a schemer he is, at the end of the day he still outright saved Karn's family.

And hey, if we managed to turn Towa and Freeza from completely evil schemers, why not Mechikabura?
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>>4485173
>To save our family is one of the greatest goods anyone can do for Karn.
He’s well aware of this
>>4485181
>Mechi is actually worrying me now, this fucker might actually be the death of us.
He’s a clever demon.
>>4485186
Karn is an anomaly. And anomalies are dangerous.
>>4485187
>he placed that barrier on it for a reason, and now he's trying to get in our good graces by saving our kids.
It wasn’t SOLELY a barrier. But he knows how easy getting on Karn’s side is, and it didn’t really cost him much.
>he could also become even greater threat then the Time Loli is, and he's obviously courting favor with us.
>become
He’s already more dangerous than Chronoa and Dumplin fighting together.
>>4485192
You don’t just kill off your help.
>>4485225
Why would someone kill off an asset that could potentially kill them? Especially when you make their life provably better, and can wait a century or so for them to simply die of old age without ever risking a direct fight?
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>>4485253
>Karn dies of old age
>Karn's spirit wanders hell for eternity polishing his likely insane skillset
>Instant Transmission's back onto the mortal plane whenever the fuck he feels like it
We are ALWAYS gonna be a threat to him.
And if not us, then our children. Or their children, or their children's children, And so on.
If we're an anomaly, then everybody we've brought into this universe may as well be one too.
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>>4485253
>Why would someone kill off an asset that could potentially kill them? Especially when you make their life provably better, and can wait a century or so for them to simply die of old age without ever risking a direct fight?
That sounds all well and good, for him, unless we become a GoD, use that special secret Primal ability to stay around longer, and whatever Berserker God may or may not have as a lifespan increaser.

When Karns 150 years old and reached True Berserker God or Apex Berserker with Dragon Force with a Base PL in the hundreds of millions, that becomes an entirely different question.

Also I still stand by my statements regarding the cancer that is Nefarious. I try to rec people to get into this quest and damn near every single one ends up dropping it either because of the mass of crossovers or Nefarious.
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>>4485264
>or Nefarious.
I can imagine it’s harder to get into SCQ when you have to catch up on 141 threads and Nefarious keeps popping up every 20 or so threads. I myself haven’t heard that complaint from people I’ve recommended this quest to, they mostly just drop the quest because they don’t like 4chan.
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>>4485260
>If we're an anomaly, then everybody we've brought into this universe may as well be one too.
Not necessarily. Once a being is conceived, their fate is decided. Karn has defied his destiny, but that doesn’t mean the others have done the same.
>>4485264
>GoD, use that special secret Primal ability to stay around longer,
Primal does not slow the process of aging, nor it’s effects. Even if Tatsu somehow attained a mastery of Primal right now, he’d still die shortly afterwards.
>Also I still stand by my statements regarding the cancer that is Nefarious.
He certainly is a cancer, I’ll give you that. Even moreso for me than you all.
>>4485290
>>4485264
>anons recommend my quest to others
I have no words but this gif
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>>4485375
>Primal does not slow the process of aging, nor it’s effects. Even if Tatsu somehow attained a mastery of Primal right now, he’d still die shortly afterwards.
I remember it coming up before, when we were talking about how hard it is to get the various Berserker Forms, and how we'd probably be dead of old age before we managed Apex Beserker, and you mentioned that Normal Primal had a secret to it that not even Future Chaya knew about that could help.
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>>4485383
Very true. And to be fair, neither Xeno Goku or Xeno Vegeta know of it either. As all three ‘Mastered’ the form, and could now hold it as a base form but don’t for practicality’s sake. Causing an earthquake with every step would get annoying, while living in ‘society’.
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>>4485100
FUUUUUCK, NOT THE WALL!
>>4485106
Oh yeah, who is the breeding stud for these things anyway? Because that isn't Karragin.
>>4485108
......I FUCKING KNEW IT, GOD FUCKING DAMNIT NEFARIOUS DID IT, AGAIN! IT WAS A JOKE GOD DAMNIT, AND HE'S STILL FUCKING WITH US!
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>>4485118
He better be ready for an Uncle position.
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>>4485264
this>>4485290
Anyone I told about just couldn't get pass the hump that GDs production rate.
>>4485375
You do have the best fanfic out there, and if there is better I haven't heard of it.
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>>4485375
So what’s Boros up to? Is he still cleaning up the mess Kars caused on his planets?
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>>4485418
Tools can be useful, but everything breaks. Unless it’s made of energy, and not matter. Like Caulifla’s sword made of fire.
Genetic engineering. Lots of genetic engineering
Plus side is almost every last trace of him and his work have been erased.
>>4485424
Ha.
>>4485431
I really do appreciate that. That’s probably the nicest thing anyone’s said about it, that I’m aware of.
>>4485437
He’s mostly finished with that, and has gone on to his next goal. Which you may or may not wind up involved in.
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>>4485464
>He’s mostly finished with that, and has gone on to his next goal. Which you may or may not wind up involved in.
If it involves taking PTO territory, you can bet your ass we're stepping in. Friend or not, our loyalty lies with Frieza first and foremost.
Plus we still have a comfortable lead over Boros in terms of power, so it's not unlikely that Frieza would send us to go put an end to things.
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>>4485491
I doubt it involves military action against the PTO. Boros isn't stupid, he knows that as friendly as we are, we follow Freeza first and foremost, and he's not stupid enough to think he and his Empire could handle Golden Freeza, Karn, Meloka, Arctrus, Or Golden Oozaru/Primal Vegeta, Bardock, Nappa, and co.

He's probably hitting some of the non-PTO aligned territory to try and build himself up.
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>>4485464
>Which you may or may not wind up involved in.
Universal bar crawl finally?
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>>4485499
We still need to find Frieza a woman.
No Empire is complete without the royal lineage being secured.
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>>4485508
Can Frieza even fuck? I’ve always regretted that we didn’t ask Cold how his race reproduces.
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>>4485513
Well he can have kids, so probably? Might be a form thing he can turn into.
>didn’t ask Cold how his race reproduces.
You know he would never look at us the same if we asked that.
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>>4485523
>You know he would never look at us the same if we asked that.
Yeah, it'd be kinda awkward if we asked him. Same with Frieza honestly, and Arctus would probably give us the run-around.
If only we knew a Frost Demon who we didn't really care about the opinion of...
HEY ICE-BOX YOU PUNK BITCH!
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>>4485532
Eh, at this point he may just assume we might rape him and run to King Cold, then the conversation would be even worse. Hilarious as all hell after we get over the fact Cold might just give him too us in this scenario, after the shit BIIITCH pulled. But still really fucking weird.
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>>4485536
>call up Cooler for a sparring match
>he thinks it's a good chance to settle the score
>he IT's to us immediately
>we're trading blows in New Salda's stratosphere
>we get him in a chokehold
>"So uh...do you have a dick?"
>PANIC.EXE
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>>4485544
>ITs to daddy for safety
>Father help, the monkey wants me!!!!
>IT right behind him, you didn't answer the question
>Cold sips the boomerest of sips
>Not my problem
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>>4485565
>Cooler pops in
>"Father he is trying to mate with me!"
>"Well son that'll be the first and last time I'll ever hear someone wanted you."
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>>4485715
Ooof, big oof. He would say that.
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24 hours until episode 142 begins!
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>>4485942
Hyped
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Also, as of right now, our next epilogue will be starring Caulifla. Or rather, it will be told from her perspective. The star will of course be who, or what, she ends up fighting.
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>>4486337
Thumbnail had me thinking it was a Necron.
Now wouldn't that be something
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>>4486348
That would be horrifying.
>>4486337
Well I hope she can see the friendly godlings again.
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>>4486348
>Necron
Hoo boy, you’re not ready for that hot mess
>>4486364
She isn’t GOING somewhen this time
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>>4486397
Wait...is our timeline getting invaded?
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>>4486402
I mean, we already know The Dark persists even to the present day, so its not really a surprise the Dark Wraiths persist as well.

>>4486397
>Hoo boy, you’re not ready for that hot mess
>GD Implies 40K might be a thing
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>>4486405
I am more worried at whatever hole a Dark Wraith can come out of right now.
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>>4486397
>Hoo boy, you’re not ready for that hot mess
There's worse things to fight honestly.
Though on the topic of 40K, how do we stack up next to the various factions now?
It'd be interesting to get some comparisons to other galactic empires.
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>>4486405
So you are telling me theres a chance...
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>>4486417
Oh...Oh that's scary. Unless, maybe we could hire him to teach Caulifla how to fight.
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>>4486409
Might be that its traveling through Time by tracking her stolen Dark Hand?

>>4486417
Abyss Currupted Oscar? Yeah possibly.
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>>4486412
In 40k at least half of every faction is busy being fucked into oblivion by incompetency in some form. Considering how the PTO isn't a fractured mess, I'd say it'd rank pretty well, at least in administration!
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>>4486420
>Ok, watch carefully, this is how you do it.
>DMB, roll, r1 r1 r1...
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>>4486421
I hope not, I don't want to even think about what would happen if a Xenomorph got infested with Dark.
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>>4486417
That pic of oro really takes me back. DS1 pvp was so much fun.
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Look so uh, I just wanna point this out now. Mecha has now officially either disabled or tainted 2 of our methods of dealing with him in the future, he's possibly[probably] tampered a failsafe onto Chaya with Towa's seal and has been suspiciously on our good side this entire time. While I'm not saying he's doing this for unjust cause I will point out that the cost he is to our family the cost he is to Karn Jr. who is a miracle abd rarity across the timelines. All I'm saying is arm's distance level at all times is my preference regarding him.
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>>4486512
Yeah let's not fall for the enemy-of-my-enemy bullshit, even if he is doing some massive favors for us.
He may have saved Chaya and Broly, but he's still got a lot to answer for given how much shit he's put Towa's side of the family through.
Not to mention he's laying it on waaaaaaayyyyy too thick with his kindness to do anything but fuck us over in the future.
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>>4486512
He’s definitely playing us. Between disabling DDF’s use against him, and putting this seal on Chaya, I’m incredibly concerned with how we’re running out of options to stop him.
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>>4486402
Yes. But like all red phantoms, there’ll only be one person they’re after.
>>4486405
>>GD Implies 40K might be a thing
I’m just saying the multiverse is a vast place.
>>4486409
Through a Red Eye Orb.
>>4486412
True. And that’d potentially be spoiling
>>4486424
>at least half of every faction is busy being fucked into oblivion by incompetency in some form.
I mean Cooler’s still around.
>>4486454
My Guts build had a field day post-dlc in the forest. Went 23 opponents in a row solo no bonfire on my longest win streak, beat a giantdad gankspank, OHKO Dark Bead sorcerers, and even an immortal hacker. But it doesn’t really matter how immortal you are if you can’t fly and are smacked into the abyss.
>>4486512
What he did to Dragon Force wasn’t permanent, but he did actually steal some of it’s divine power. Then what did he do with it? Infused it into Chaya of all people. Why? Also,
>suspiciously
Not really suspicious to be honest. You COULD pose as much danger to him, eventually, as you do to SKoT. But he KNOWS Karn now, and knows he doesn’t betray allies for anything.
>>4486519
>Not to mention he's laying it on waaaaaaayyyyy too thick with his kindness to do anything but fuck us over in the future.
Not ALL demons are backstabbing cunts. Karn could prove invaluable against his enemies, and is already motivated to destroy at least one of them, so why would he not garner favor?
>>4486542
>I’m incredibly concerned with how we’re running out of options to stop him.
A valid concern to have about anyone and everyone, really. But to be fair, even Apex Future Chaya with the immortal-slaying Godsend isn’t a THREAT to him, much less your current Chaya.
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>>4486566
>True. And that’d potentially be spoiling
I wanna meet Lord Adornable so we can talk about fortifications.
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>>4486566
>What he did to Dragon Force wasn’t permanent, but he did actually steal some of it’s divine power. Then what did he do with it? Infused it into Chaya of all people. Why? Also,
>>suspiciously
>Not really suspicious to be honest. You COULD pose as much danger to him, eventually, as you do to SKoT. But he KNOWS Karn now, and knows he doesn’t betray allies for anything.
This is what really concerns me. Is DDF okay? Also yeah I get the beef with Time Loli and Dumplin but what other enemies could something like he have? Especially if he manages to return to his prime?


Also this time stuff has been bugging me bad with a what if, so if you get the time, could we see a What If Omake in If we can convinced Trunks to jump ship with us and Towa back in Continue City?
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>>4486566
>What he did to Dragon Force wasn’t permanent
Oh good.
>but he did actually steal some of it’s divine power
pic related
>Then what did he do with it? Infused it into Chaya of all people.
Yeah, well...I still kinda want it back. Is it enough that it would really affect us? Or is it something we can eventually recover from?
>Why?
Given how much of a powerhouse Future Chaya is without Divine Ki, imagine what somebody like her could do with it.
Hell, our Chaya is already on track to grow up stronger simply because she wasn't malnourished growing up.
>Not ALL demons are backstabbing cunts
You can't blame us for being suspicious though.
>Karn could prove invaluable against his enemies, and is already motivated to destroy at least one of them, so why would he not garner favor?
Fair point, but how long would we remain invaluable? How long before we come back to just being a threat?
While the best thing to do would be to actually make an ally of us, who would actually expect a Demon God to treat us as anything close to an equal. And that needs to happen for any sort of long lasting partnership, as evidenced by our bond with Frieza.
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>>4486602
DROPPED MY FUCKING PICTURE
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>>4486566
>My Guts build had a field day post-dlc in the forest.
The Catacombs was my go to place for invasion pvp. Trolling invaders with the bridge switches was tons of fun.
>even Apex Future Chaya with the immortal-slaying Godsend isn’t a THREAT to him
That’s quite horrifying, especially considering this is his weakest form. At least we still have the Time Sword to beat him with.
>>4486594
>could we see a What If Omake
This.
I’d love to see some epilogues of what could have been.
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>>4486611
>At least we still have the Time Sword to beat him with
What the fuck
Oh no not that ugly Kingdom Hearts looking piece of shit.
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>>4486622
>ugly Kingdom Hearts looking piece of shit.
Exact same thing I thought when I first saw it.
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>>4486611
What time sword? We only had the spear.
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>>4486628
The sword that was used to beat Mechi in Heroes. I don’t remember who currently possesses it.
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>>4486631
Pretty sure it hasn't come up yet.
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>>4486702
I know
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>>4486631
Oo that's ugly. Like someone just got out of art school and not with a degree kind of ugly.
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>>4486566
Well, while I don't trust mechi, I do trust you enough to believe you wouldn't lead us to our death. So maybe mechi can be trusted. Shame about Fu though because it seems he lied or was misguided in that case.
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>>4486579
Karn isn’t one for fortifications. And to be fair, not like any he’s seen have actually stopped him
>>4486594
Yes, he only took a small portion of your Stand’s power to study it.
>but what other enemies could something like he have?
Not many, that’s for sure.
>What If Omake in If we can convinced Trunks to jump ship with us and Towa back in Continue City?
This is a bit OOC knowledge, but Chronoa would have been able to track him into Towa’s lab. Which would have been a shitshow and a half.
>>4486602
Your stand will recover. He wouldn’t endanger an asset.
>You can't blame us for being suspicious though.
Neither does he, as he told you directly.
>who would actually expect a Demon God to treat us as anything close to an equal. And that needs to happen for any sort of long lasting partnership, as evidenced by our bond with Frieza.
How long did it take Freeza to treat you as an equal?
>>4486611
Catacombs was okay, not my jam. Killing elves in the forest was fun.
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>>4486631
I always though of Soul Caliber when I saw it.
>>4487045
I won’t ever walk you all right off a cliff. And Fu’s only ever heard stories of Mechikabura, as in this reality he never ‘existed’.
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>>4487059
I can't believe I am grateful he was such an obedient bitch, he was fucking tagged.
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>>4487059
>I always though of Soul Caliber when I saw it.
Same, but not in the good way. It's way too derivative.
It's like the generic magical greatsword in some bargain-bin JRPG.
It's tacky as fuck and mediocre in terms of design, so it fits right in with everything else in Heroes.
>How long did it take Freeza to treat you as an equal?
The things we did for Frieza and the experiences we gave him are so far removed from what we can do for Mechikabura that you can't even compare the situations.
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>>4487065
Of course. Can’t have a Towa capturing and brainwashing her Time Patrollers to fight against her. Again.
>>4487066
>The things we did for Frieza and the experiences we gave him are so far removed from what we can do for Mechikabura that you can't even compare the situations.
And THEY’RE what helped him see you as an equal, and worthy of his respect and friendship.
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The long-awaited Episode 142 is now here! >>4487232



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