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It is a time of peace. With Lord Freeza’s explosive declaration, naming himself Emperor of the Universe after single-handedly obliterating the Covenant stronghold High Charity, peace has come to the universe. Not wanting to stand against him and his unstoppable Super Saiyans, within days of his declaration the universe bent the knee. And while there are always outliers, those stubborn or foolish enough to try and resist, the overwhelming majority of the universe is bending the knee. And he wouldn’t have achieved all this, defeated the strongest military in the universe and survived the Prophet’s ultimate weapon without your help.

Welcome to Saiyan Conqueror Quest, the story of an alternate timeline in the greater Dragonball EU. Currently it is Age 749 and you the players control Karn: once an ordinary Saiyan warrior with a meager powerlevel of 2,830 who has risen to become a mighty Super Saiyan, and so much more. Throughout your many adventures, the “Dragon of New Salda” has grown into the symbol of Saiyan might and power recognized actoss the universe. Now as a PTO general with a powerlevel of over 48 million, and close friend and confidant of Lord Freeza himself, Karn has become his people’s greatest champion.

Character sheets and other info:
https://pastebin.com/u/GrandDragonQM
Archive:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Saiyan+Conqueror+Quest

Quest rules are as follows:
>30 minute voting windows from post time
>Pick ONE option when voting(unless otherwise noted)
>Dice rolls are all best of first three, only correctly rolled dice pools will count
>One roll post per person, unless at least ten minutes has passed since your last roll then you can roll again
>Crits are 100 on a d100(a 99 or paired rolls may net you an extra bonus)
>Crit fails -only- occur if no roll passes the DC, or if two different 1s are rolled which will OVERRIDE even a critical success, resulting in a catastrophic crit failure
>Write-ins are both allowed and encouraged, but options too out of character will be shut down
>Do NOT delete votes, instead simply link your change to your previous post as well as the vote post
>I can change any of the above rules at any time for any or no reason
>Have fun

SCQ will usually start every Saturday at noon Eastern Standard Time, and run throughout the weekend. Also, for updates or schedule changes you can find me on twitter @GrandDragonQM, which I try and keep as up-to-date with scheduling as possible

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7CNw73nwDm0

Current Arc: DYNASTY
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>>4902025
Previously on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:

The day after battling the Time Patrol, slaughtering many of them including the Supreme Kai of Time herself, Karn had woken up hungry. So after sneaking out of Hyoizaburoo’s and Yuiyui’s place and heading north, Karn found and slayed three giant ursine creatures and took them back to the village to fix. But something else followed him, a white dragon chased and attacked. After a brief battle Karn emerged victorious, and instead of the bears fed dragon to the village before heading home. Back home, Karn dove back into training, testing his Foresight before focusing on pushing the limits of his Energy Body technique. And as we rejoin Karn, you’ve been testing it’s might against your wife, Meloka.

“Now that’s more like it.” you say, your wife leaping back from you. Focusing on your ki you pour more energy into your shield, it reforming around your left arm where she’d slashed you more than a dozen times. In under a second it fully reforms, the damage to it disappearing as if it never happened.. “C’mon, I’m just getting started! Let’s see just how strong this technique really is!”
“Well now, that’s new.” she says, looking at your arm as well. “Looks like you’ve gotten better.”
“Guess all the ki control’s paying off.” you reply retaking your stance. She does the same, hands glowing with gathered energy not yet outside her body. You’re almost certain she’ll have other tricks up her sleeves you’ve never seen before.

But what are you going to do about that?
>Let her keep attacking you, focus on defense and see how well your Energy Body can mitigate her different attacks
>Keep up your pressure and go all-in on attacking, see how well you can attack while keeping it up
>Unmovable Energy Body, push the technique to it’s strongest and see if she can connect through it
>Other(write in)
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>>4902028
>Let her keep attacking you, focus on defense and see how well your Energy Body can mitigate her different attacks
Here's hoping we don't get put into critical condition!
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>>4902028
>>Let her keep attacking you, focus on defense and see how well your Energy Body can mitigate her different attacks
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>>4902028
>Let her keep attacking you, focus on defense and see how well your Energy Body can mitigate her different attacks
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>>4902028
Also.
>Pic
FOOKIN SAVED!
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Rolled 60, 8, 23, 42, 78, 32, 25, 40, 86, 50, 19 = 463 (11d100)

>>4902058
Very.
>>4902034
>>4902049
>>4902054
Let her keep attacking you, focus on defense and see how well your Energy Body can mitigate her different attacks wins. Roll me a 2d100.
First DC: 40
Second DC: 70
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Rolled 9, 42 = 51 (2d100)

>>4902079
LETS GO!
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>>4902082
......fuck you dice gods. Fuck you.
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Rolled 19, 63 = 82 (2d100)

>>4902079
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Anyone want to take that third roll?
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Rolled 15, 87 = 102 (2d100)

>>4902108
I got you boss.
>>4902079
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>>4902111
Well at least the harder one got through....
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>>4902116
Yeah I was getting ready to slump into my seat with two botched rolls. Small blessings I guess.
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>>4902118
So how is todays training injury going to manifest.
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>>4902082
>>4902085
>>4902111
19/100, 87/100. Failure, and success. An interesting way to fail, but leaves you plenty of room to train wins it. Writing
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>>4902028
“Let’s see just how much your armor can take.” Meloka calls, again creating one of her blades. She then swings it back and forth at range, launching a dozen or so Ki Needles towards you with two swipes of her blade. You cross your arms before your face, the dozen or so needles piercing into your Energy Body and barely sticking into your skin. “Shyaaa!!”

KABOOM

The needles all detonate simultaneously, blasting your front, but your ki holds the worst of it at bay. You barely feel the shock at all, lowering your arms as the smoke fades. You look yourself over, and see that other than the dozen tiny pinprick holes in your upper body, arms and legs, you’re completely unharmed by her blast. However, your Energy Body isn’t. Her attack disabled your Energy Body completely, leaving your arm wounds to bleed freely again.

“Huh. That’s different.” you say, focusing a few seconds and reactivating your Energy Body. And not too soon, as though the clearing smoke see another of Meloka’s attacks closing in. You see a ball of ki as big across as your shoulders, small, barely-noticeable spikes present on it’s surface. You recognize her Hellflower attack, and immediately guard your face again. The sphere bursts, you feeling several dozen of her Ki Needles pierce into your armor. “Shi-!”

KABOOOOOM

Again her attack detonates, this time you feeling it a bit more than before. But it still doesn’t exactly hurt, your energy barrier mitigating the blast. However, once more her attack’s explosion disabled your Energy Body. You keep working with your wife on this, and sure enough every time a blast hits your shields fall. Reactivating it takes only a second or two at most, but you not able to hold it yet against that sort of attack. Something you’ll doubtlessly be able to train for later, and increase your shield’s durability.

“That’s a cool technique!” Chaya shouts as you and your wife both power down but remain in your forms,, you seeing your eldest daughter flying over and rejoining you all. However her armor is scraps, body covered in blood and burns! The hell happened to her?
“BIG SIS!” Caulifla shouts, blasting up to Chaya as her Stand Triumph appears with a “KIIIIIIIIIIIII!!” Triumph quickly heals Chaya’s injuries, your family gathering around your daughter. “What happened?”
“I fought Shellshock, and he got some really powerful upgrades.” she says, thrn you hear her stomach growl audibly. “Oh, man. I’m hungry!”

You are too, but the question is, what do you want to go eat?
>Silver’s cooking aboard your old ship
>Take the kids fishing, and keep a careful eye out for Mindslayers
>Head back into the city, take in the smells and find something to eat that way
>Other(write in)
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>>4902207
>Head back into the city, take in the smells and find something to eat that way
I smell random encounters.
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>>4902207
>>Head back into the city, take in the smells and find something to eat that way
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>>4902207
>Head back into the city, take in the smells and find something to eat that way
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>>4902207
>Take the kids fishing, and keep a careful eye out for Mindslayers
I just wan' fish
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Rolled 2 (1d3)

>>4902212
>>4902215
>>4902218
>>4902223
Head back into the city, take in the smells and find something to eat that way wins it. Roll me a single d100.
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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>4902255
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Rolled 33 (1d100)

>>4902255
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Rolled 73 (1d100)

>>4902255
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>>4902258
>>4902267
>>4902283
95/100. Well, you found more than a meal. Writing.
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>>4902286
God damnit, Goro better not be squatting at the restaurant waiting for us.
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>>4902289
I'm pretty sure we kicked his ass all the way back to Shao-Khan's palace.
Here's hoping he didn't tell him about us.
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>>4902353
I bet he won't want to tell anyone how his fight with the Dragon of New Salda went.
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>>4902353
>implying Shao-Kahn isn't busy getting his ass kicked by the demon realm right now.
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>>4902207
“I am too kiddo, now that you mention it.” you say, your own stomach growling in response. “What’s say we all head into the city, and see what we can find for lunch?”

“Yeah!”
“Okay!”
“Let’s Go!”

Your kids all shout their confirmations, Chaya rushing back into the old ship to take off the scraps of her armor. She’s back out in a minute wearing just a simple training suit, and you all take to the sky together. Taking the short flight from your private island to the mainland, you all land down on the outskirts of the city by a familiar home. As you touch down, the door opens to reveal a familiar face.

“Grandpa Tatsu!!” your kids shout, several of the young ones almost tackling him in excitement.
“Well now, aren’t you all a sight for sore eyes.” he says with a chuckle, wincing a bit as your kids hug him right. “Where are you all off to?”
“Lookin’ for somewhere to eat!” Caulifla says. “You wanna come too?”
“Well, why not?” he replies, looking over to you. “Have any idea what you’re looking for?”
“Something that’ll hold all of us, at least.” you reply with a laugh. “Know any place worth a visit?”
“As a matter of a fact, I think I do.” he answers. “I can take a few minutes detour before heading over to teach the afternoon’s Oozaru lessons. Let’s go.”

And with Tatsu now leading, your group of now twelve head deeper into the city. After a minute or so of walking, you begin smelling something. Something delicious.

“What’s that? It smells real good!” Chaya says, her nose picking up the smell a few steps before her siblings’ do. “Hey, are we almost there?”
“We’re here.” Tatsu says, turning and knocking twice on a squarish, average-looking building barely if at all bigger than Tatsu’s own small, one person home. A slide in the door opens, revealing an unfamiliar scarred face, but it doesn’t speak. It looks over your group, then after a second slides the hatch back shut.
“Hello I- Awww.” Caulifla says, clearly disappointed the person didn’t want to talk to her. A moment later the door opens, revealing a staircase descending down into the planet. “Woah! Cool!”

“After you.” Tatsu says, gesturing to you all. Caulifla excitedly goes first, rushing in and down the steep staircase. Meloka passes you Okira to hold onto, and holds the hands of Maz and Kayle so they don’t trip down them as well while Karn Jr clings to her. You all head down, you glancing back and seeing Tatsu exchanging a few quiet words with the doorman before following you. You raise an eyebrow at him inquisitively, but he only shakes his head. But you don’t have time to ponder it long, as the staircase comes to an abrupt end at another door. Chaya raises a hand to knock on the door, but jerks to a stop as she turns towards Tatsu. “Let me.”
cont
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>>4902431
Your old man then walks up to this second door, and instead of knocking inserts what looks like some sort of keycard into the middle of the door. There’s an electronic beep, and the door slides open to your left revealing what lies inside. It’s a dimly-lit place, resembling some of the seedier bars from Planet Vegeta before it’s destruction. Yet everything is clean, and the wonderous smells of cooking flesh from your youth living like a tribal in the village are absolutely intoxicating. This place’s smells make you feel like you’ve gone back to your own childhood. However, you notice immediately that none of the tables are empty, and gettin all your family together at one would take pushing two of them together.

But how do you handle arrangements?
>Your kids can take care of themselves in friendly territory, let them find their own seats and relax
>See if you can convince two of the tables’ worth of people to let you all sit together
>Other?(write in)
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>>4902441
>Your kids can take care of themselves in friendly territory, let them find their own seats and relax
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>>4902441
>Your kids can take care of themselves in friendly territory, let them find their own seats and relax
Let them enjoy some sayian culture real quick
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>>4902454
I said it before and I'll say it again, we gotta stop being a goddamn hermit and mingle with the rest of the population regularly.
We ARE the hero of the people after all.
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Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>4902444
>>4902454
Your kids can take care of themselves in friendly territory, let them find their own seats and relax wins it. Interesting, writing.
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>>4902441
“Well, everyone, go find somewhere to take a seat.” you say, looking around the room. Several people have now looked up to notice you and your group, the kids spreading out and taking empty seats at several different tables The younger kids all run off in different directions, taking seats at different tables. The other, older Saiyan’s all accommodate them, making room at their tables for your kids. Meanwhile you and Tatsu take seats at a table full of grizzled, heavily-scarred old vets. They all seem vaguely familiar, no doubt warriors you’ve fought with in different conflicts.

“This place takes me back.” you say, your old man giving you a smirk. “Smells like our village.”
“Thought you’d appreciate a taste of home.” he replies, as an older serving woman comes out with a platter for each of you. The servings aren’t massive, not like you’ve been used to with Silver or devouring your own prey, but it smells just right. You never did learn how the old crones would fix the village meat, but it was always fantastic. “We’ve come a long way from our old home.”
“That we have.” you say, turning and taking a completely not paranoid look around the room to check on your kids. They’re all talking with different people around the room, who you realize are all old soldiers. Aside from your kids, you and Meloka are still the youngest people in the room. “We’ve been through a lot, but the worst the universe had to throw at us wasn’t enough to take us out.”
“For now.” he says, looking over to Chaya speaking with a couple of one-armed, scarred up veterans. “But I wonder how long it will last.”

“I’m sure that, once they grow up, the kids of their generation will be unstoppable.” you say. “Bardock’s boys both have surpassed Super Saiyan, and I’m sure others are just as strong.”
“It’s not their strength I doubt, but their instincts.” he says, sounding a note worried. “Growing on this planet has made them far more powerful, but it’s been too peaceful. They haven’t had to struggle just to survive, fighting and killing just to eat their next meal. Without that drive to survive, they won’t make it. They’ll fall, just as easily as those Patrollers you fought yesterday.”

He makes a fair point, you realize as you think on it. Even today, in a place with competition nowhere near her level, Chaya was burned and beaten bloody. Something needs to be done to address this problem.

But what?
>Ask Tatsu if he has any ideas how to instill that same drive in them without nearly killing them every week
>What about making a planet to train the youth on, filled with dangerous creatures that they’re sent to survive on their own? Something like your early missions, without exterminating the entire populations
>Sounds like you’ve been too soft on the kids, and need to change up their living situation to something more akin to your youth
>Other?(write in)
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>>4902622
>What about making a planet to train the youth on, filled with dangerous creatures that they’re sent to survive on their own? Something like your early missions, without exterminating the entire populations
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>>4902622
>What about making a planet to train the youth on, filled with dangerous creatures that they’re sent to survive on their own? Something like your early missions, without exterminating the entire populations
The Yautja approve.
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>>4902622
>Sounds like you’ve been too soft on the kids, and need to change up their living situation to something more akin to your youth
Make Piccolo look like a fuckin amateur
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>>4902622
>>What about making a planet to train the youth on, filled with dangerous creatures that they’re sent to survive on their own? Something like your early missions, without exterminating the entire populations
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>>4902622
>>Ask Tatsu if he has any ideas how to instill that same drive in them without nearly killing them every week
I wanna know what he’s thought of, first
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Rolled 3, 5, 2, 1 = 11 (4d10)

>>4902625
>>4902632
>>4902637
>>4902649
What about making a planet to train the youth on, filled with dangerous creatures that they’re sent to survive on their own? Something like your early missions, without exterminating the entire populations wins it. Here we go, roll me a 4d100 then. For...reasons.
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Rolled 15, 94, 39, 87 = 235 (4d100)

>>4902675
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Rolled 38, 38, 8, 63 = 147 (4d100)

>>4902675
oh boy here we go.
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Rolled 100, 29, 63, 11 = 203 (4d100)

>>4902675
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>>4902686
>>4902678

Thanks for the clutch rolls guys. Sorry mine was so shit.
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>>4902678
>>4902680
>>4902686
CRIT/100, 94/100, 63/100, 87/100. Impressive rolls, just let me note this down. Writing
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>>4902721
hell yeah, I was worried for a second those rolls were for something separate that a crit might not work out for
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>>4902744
It could be that we either start off explaining our idea to Tatsu extremely eloquently, or that we have a stroke of genius as we formulate our idea.
Least that what it feels like to me.
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>>4902622
“I was thinking about something, while we were on the Crimson Demons’ planet.” you say, Tatsu tilting his head in curiosity. “What about making a planet to train the youth on, filled with dangerous creatures that they’re sent to survive on their own? Something like our early missions for the PTO, just without aiming to exterminating entire populations and instead on survival.”
“Ha! More like the good ole’ days, huh?” one of the more heavily-scarred warriors says. “Well, how would we find creatures strong enough to give a glowin’ Super Saiyan a fight?”

“Ask the stiffs in that lab of theirs.” you say, remembering the monster they were creating. “They’re working on something deep underground called Project: Scyther. Basically they’re mixing different creatures with Saibamen to make even more dangerous beasts. One of them got loose awhile back, and nearly took my head off. They gave it swords for arms and wings, plus it could near-completely hide it’s presence.”
“Those things are here, on our world?” an older, grey-haired Saiyan woman missing her left eye and ear. “Something strong enough to almost kill even you?!”
“It wasn’t exactly strong. Just fast, and extremely dangerous.” you answer her. “But if we take this idea to those psychos, I’m sure they’d be more than happy to do it.”

“I had a similar idea.” Tatsu says, surprising the other old vets. “Without sufficient threats, the youth will grow up soft and spoiled. They need to know how to handle hunger, thirst, and exhaustion as well as other threats. A planet like this, while good for their bodies to strengthen them when developing, will not be good to develop their combat instincts.”
“If it stays this peaceful.” another says, the table sharing a laugh at that. Truthfully, New Salda has been subjected to many attacks over the years. But you doubt it will happen again anytime soon, especially after what the Covenant went through for doing that.
“I don’t think anyone’s dumb enough to do that again.” another one says.

“I’ve gotta head out, lessons are starting soon.” Tatsu says, you rising with him and clasping forearms. “You enjoy your meal, those kids aren’t gonna teach themselves to control their Oozaru forms.”
“Give ‘em hell old man.” you reply, Tatsu leaving as you sit back down. In the company of these old vets, you enjoy your meal while everyone shares stories of some of the more dangerous creatures they’ve encountered in their travels. Honestly, many of them sound even more dangerous than Project: Scyther’s monster.
cont
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>>4902795
After a half hour or so you all have finished your meal, you, Meloka, and your kids all head out and back up to the surface.

“That place was pretty cool.” Tatsu and Tomi say together, as you all emerge out into the afternoon sun. “So, training time?”
“Training time.” you reply.

But what kind of training will you give them?
>Take them with you, put them through the same training as your students
>Have Broly and Chaya take them back to the ship, and supervise their gravity training while you and Meloka focus on your students
>Have Broly and Chaya spar their siblings as you do, testing the youngers’ power and the older two’s control with Caulifla ready in case anyone goes too hard
>Other(write in)
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>>4902798
>Take them with you, put them through the same training as your students
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>>4902798
>Have Broly and Chaya spar their siblings as you do, testing the youngers’ power and the older two’s control with Caulifla ready in case anyone goes too hard
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>>4902798
>>Have Broly and Chaya spar their siblings as you do, testing the youngers’ power and the older two’s control with Caulifla ready in case anyone goes too hard
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>>4902798
>>Take them with you, put them through the same training as your students
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>>4902798
changing>>4902816
to
>Have Broly and Chaya spar their siblings as you do, testing the youngers’ power and the older two’s control with Caulifla ready in case anyone goes too hard
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>>4902798
>Have Broly and Chaya spar their siblings as you do, testing the youngers’ power and the older two’s control with Caulifla ready in case anyone goes too hard
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Rolled 76, 55, 96, 89, 94, 55, 17, 15 = 497 (8d100)

>>4902801
>>4902803
>>4902806
>>4902816
>>4902840
Have Broly and Chaya spar their siblings as you do, testing the youngers’ power and the older two’s control with Caulifla ready in case anyone goes too hard wins it. Writing
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>>4902798
“Broly, Chaya. You two take your siblings back to the ship, and train there.” you say, turning to your kids. “I want both of you to practice, one at a time against your other siblings. As I was doing earlier.”
“Wait, really?” Chaya asks, sounding a bit excited.
“Is that a good idea?” Broly asks, a note of worry in his voice. “What if something happens?”
“Caulifla will be there with you all.” you say, ruffling both his and her hair. “If anyone gets hurt, she’ll be in charge. Sound good?”
“Let’s go!!” Caulifla shouts excitedly, leaping into the air and pumping a fist. “I haven’t got to spar with big sis in forever! This is gonna be fun!”

“Yeah, I’m in.” Chaya says, taking to the air as well. “Let’s go!”
“Good luck everyone. Make sure to keep your guard up.” Meloka says, your kids minus Okira and Karn Jr, and Chilli as well since he’s still off world all take off together. Meloka turns to you, Karn Jr dozing lazily in her arms. “You ready to go?”
“Yeah, let’s head on over.” you say, placing the first two fingers of your right on your forehead. Meloka does the same, the two of you using your Instant Transmission to travel to the reserved training grounds by your students. “Afternoon Lattu, Rugu, Nion. Here a little early I see.”

“Was making up for you not being with us yesterday, and that everyone already cleared out.” Lattu says, the young woman having made considerable progress since you’d first met her. “I know I could have pushed myself harder.”
“Well, I’ll make sure to correct that today.” you reply with a chuckle. “Can’t have any disciples of mine caught slacking off after all.”

After a few minutes the rest of your students have gathered, and you get them organized into their usual groups split between the chambers and sparring. Meloka sits atop one of the chambers, directing the different groups sparring below as they fight with both Okira and Karn Jr curled up in her lap. You raise your hand to your forehead, focusing on the first group’s ki in the chamber to teleport to with Instant Transmission when a thought hits you. Your Instant Transmission always takes a second or three to use, not because the focusing on the technique takes so long, but focusing your ki sense. What if there was a better way, when your mind is connected to New Salda and you’re able to sense every single living being simultaneously? Learning to do such a thing on your own would be very beneficial in the long run. So you decide to try for it, and expand your senses.

Roll me a 2d100
First DC: 30
Second DC: 60
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>>4902935
And dropped my picture. Because of course I did.
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Rolled 72, 69 = 141 (2d100)

>>4902935
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Rolled 11, 46 = 57 (2d100)

>>4902935
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Rolled 37, 52 = 89 (2d100)

>>4902935
Step aside, peasants.
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>>4902938
>>4902944
>>4902955
72/100, 69/100. Impressive success, writing.
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>>4902935
>Meloka sits atop one of the chambers, directing the different groups sparring below as they fight with both Okira and Karn Jr curled up in her lap.
Meloka is really unintentionally cultivating that stern, protective, mother goddess image huh.
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>>4902968
>Meloka is really unintentionally cultivating that stern, protective, mother goddess image huh.
As if she hasn’t been for years
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>>4902988
True. Nobody fucks with Mama Monke.
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>>4902935
“Let’s try this.” you say, closing your eyes and focusing fully on your ki sense. You focus first on your wife’s ki, her resting strength still surpassing all of your students’. Then while focused on her might, you try also to focus on another of your students’ power. But you can’t do it, at least not yet. “Hey, New Salda. Mind lending me a hand?”
“Of course, my Champion.” the avatar of your planet answers, you feeling the planet’s energy surge into you. But more importantly, comes New Salda’s awareness. You suddenly feel the ki of every living being on the planet in your mind, you able to sense every single living being.

“Thanks. I’m going to be working on something, so I’ll keep connecting in and out with you.” you think to New Salda. “Trying to work on my own senses here.”
“I understand.” New Salda’s booming voice answers. “I will help you however I can, my Champion.”
“Appreciate it.” you reply, and slowly begin pulling back your mind from New Salda’s presence. You feel your awareness of the lesser beings, plants and smaller animals fading immediately. But you hold onto that awareness of your fellow Saiyans, focusing mainly on the sixty five presences all nearby. You lose the others on the planet near-immediately after, but use all your focus to hold onto your current awareness. Now here’s the real challenge: can you hold it? “Alright, let’s do this.”

Maintaining your focus, you slowly open your eyes and raise your right hand. Pressing the first two fingers of your right hand to your forehead, you’re already keenly aware of everyone’s ki. So you pick the first target, and in less than a second since you raised your hand teleport. One moment you’re outside the nearest gravity chamber, and the next you see Totoma, Salat, Ketan, Ayote, and Artoa all cranking out suspended vertical sit-ups. The gravity of at least thirty times New Salda’s own slams down onto you, nearly shocking you and breaking your concentration. But you manage to hold onto your focus, maintaining your mental connection to the sixty five ki signatures.

“Excellent form, keep up the work.” you say, teleporting right from this chamber to another. You go from room to room, maintaining your focus on everyone’s ki while instructing your students and correcting their technique over the next few hours. Once the training is over, you stand on the roof by Meloka and address your exhausted students. “Well done today everyone. That’s the kind of effort I want to see from you all each and every day! Now go get yourselves rested up, because tomorrow we’re going even harder!”

“SIR! YES SIR!!” they all shout up to you, clearly exhausted but ready for the challenge. You’ve trained them well.

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 paused-
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>>4903030
And that’s it for tonight, everyone enjoying the run so far? Ready to see what else is in store, both for potential passives and for what else you’ll focus your own trainin on? All this and more, when Saiyan Conqueror Quest resumes! Run will continue in just under 12 hours, so see you all then!
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>>4903032
I'm ready for upgrading our Instant Transmission. Or at least our ki sense. Making both of those broken would be a blessing.
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>>4903036
It's a tough choice to me honestly.
Do we want to be aware of every possible threat before it happens?
Or do we want the power to deal with anything that could ever come up in the first place?
I seem to remember Mechikabura positing a similar conundrum after we got our boon from him.
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>>4903036
>>4903041
And you still haven’t seen the full list of passives to choose from. We’re starting off with experiencing another one when we resume, Meloka’s gonna show you how she’s got such extraordinary spatial awareness to control dozens, even hundreds of her Warding Eyes simultaneously while you can only manage two.
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>>4903032
>And that’s it for tonight, everyone enjoying the run so far?
Yes
>Ready to see what else is in store, both for potential passives and for what else you’ll focus your own trainin on?
It's already getting hard. Each time you present us a really good option to pick, but we can't pick them all.
Only one passive may be active. While I have one that I'm looking most forward to right now, others are good too. Good enough that not taking them is a difficult choice. When you will show other options it will get even harder to decide.
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>>4902721
>CRIT/100, 94/100, 63/100, 87/100. Impressive rolls, just let me note this down.
Those rolls for a Death World. Great.
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Am I getting this right? We will select one passive that we will use all the time in the next months? We will take this to its mastery and beyond.

But we will still know the other ones and be able to use them but be not very good at them.
>For example if we go with Precognition it will get excellent, but our Energy Body will say mostly at this current level, our very expanded Ki awareness will not get as great as it can.

Or can we theoretically train this like that. Focus on two passives:
> One day we do Energy Body all the time.
>Next day we do Precognition all the time.
>Third day we practice Energy Body again and on fourth day we do Precognition.
And this goes on and on like this. Result would be that we would have two passives trained and available and we could switch between them depending on what we need:
>It's time to be sneaky and unnoticed we use Precognition as passive.
>It's time to go into massive war zone maybe we switch to Energy Body for this situation.

I guess dividing time to practice two passives would cause our process of gaining mastery over them to be slower. Dividing time further to practice three passives would do it even further.

But is it even possible?
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>>4903030
>“I understand.” New Salda’s booming voice answers. “I will help you however I can, my Champion.”
Shin is a God, does New Salda qualify as a Goddess? By the way we just recently named the planet New Salda. Did she had her own name before. What is it? We never asked her. Right?
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Now this is a little strange idea, but would it be possible for New Salda to gain control over another planet? If we bring huge rock from New Salda would she be able to connect to it when it is on another planet? If the planet is dead maybe she could expand her influence from that rock to the rest of the planet over time. I'm thinking about this in context of our Death World.
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>>4903249
It’s not supposed to be an easy, obvious choice. If it were there wouldn’t be a vote
>>4903250
It’s an interesting set
>>4903251
>months
Years. Getting any of these to become passives will take years.
You’ll still have most the other techniques, to an extent. But as you’ll see, most are incompatible with each other due to the ducks focus required
>Focus on two passives
No. This is a pick one to get it to a passive state.
>>4903252
No, New Salda’s a planet. And the planet only has a name thanks to those living there.
>>4903253
No. That’d be like chopping out one of your organs and placing it in another body. You wouldn’t magically gain control of that other body
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>>4903502
ducks focus?
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>>4903030
“They’re really improving.” Meloka says, the two of you watching as your students begin to tiredly disperse. Some in small groups, others taking off on their own, while still more stay around, talking amongst themselves. Meanwhile Meloka raises her open right hand, twists her arm while lowering it and closing her fist. You see dozens, possibly even hundreds of your Berserker fist-sized ki orbs all flying towards her from all sides. You hadn’t even noticed she’d sent out so many of her Warding Eyes, focused as you were on maintaining your own focus. “I almost feel bad for whatever dumbass tries attacking us next time.”

“Speak for yourself. I’d rather fight all of them at once than try and take you on hun.” you reply. “Seriously, I still can’t control more than two of those things at once.”
“Wait, you’re trying to manually control them?” she asks, and you immediately realize you know less of her technique than you’d thought. “I haven’t actually directly controlled them in forever.”
“Directly? How do you control them then?” you ask her, intrigued. “I thought I just wasn’t good enough to handle it.”
“Well, yes and no.” she says, you tilting your head a bit and raising an eyebrow. “Focus on my ki, and only mine. You have to pay really close attention to sense what I’m about to do.”

“Sure.” you reply, dropping your focus from the sixty five presences to just hers. You see her aura blazing around her, it flaring up and burning bright like a star. But then her aura expands. You can sense it, and see it as her energy grows larger and larger. Her ki signature diffuses a little bit, but by both watching with your eyes and following it with your senses can clearly see what she’s doing. In a technique almost polar opposite to your Energy Body, Meloka has diffused her aura out to at least dozens of yards out from her on all sides! “Woah.”
“Right now my limit’s about seventeen yards or so.” she says, as if it’s nothing. And having your aura spread out like this allows me to have much greater spatial awareness than I normally would. Anything within this space, living or non living all touch my energy when it’s spread like this. Which gives me a near-flawless picture of everything going on around me while it’s active.”

“No wonder you can flip and spin like a madwoman and not lose yourself.” you reply with a chuckle as you consider the advantages and disadvantages of such a skill.
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>>4903520
Having that level of awareness she’s speaking of would make it nearly-impossible for anyone to ever sneak up on you while it’s active, but by it’s nature such a skill couldn’t be used simultaneously with the Energy Body technique. And with your ki spread out so thin over a wide area, gathering it back to you would take precious seconds in a fight if you needed to shield yourself with your Energy Body or Barrier. Trading a more passive, reactive defensive style of confronting threats for an active one, identifying threats as soon as they enter your range. It admittedly would require a higher amount of skill and attention from you to use, but could possibly identify invisible, or even otherwise-undetectable threats in your vicinity.

“So, what do you think?” Meloka asks you. “Want to try it yourself?”

Well?
>You’re ready right now, ask her to start teaching you
>Later this evening, after the kids have eaten and everyone’s winding down you’ll try it out
>Not today, try out her technique first thing tomorrow when you’re rested and fully ready
>Other(write in)
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>>4903523
>You’re ready right now, ask her to start teaching you
No reason not to try.
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>>4903520
Nice art.
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>>4903527
It’s a piece of a larger work by @Robo_sama, the first artist commissioned for work on this quest. He does good work, although most of his usual work isn’t portable on this sort of board
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>>4903523
>>You’re ready right now, ask her to start teaching you
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>>4903523
>You’re ready right now, ask her to start teaching you
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>>4903518
Dunno how the word duck got in there
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>>4903523
>>Later this evening, after the kids have eaten and everyone’s winding down you’ll try it out
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>>4903526
>>4903535
>>4903543
You’re ready right now, ask her to start teaching you wins it. Roll me a 3d100.
First DC: 35
Second DC: 50
Third DC: 70(no critfail)
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Rolled 47, 50, 89 = 186 (3d100)

>>4903569
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>>4903574
Fuck yeah.
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Rolled 42, 75, 82 = 199 (3d100)

>>4903569
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Anyone want the third roll, or should we just carry on?
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>>4903587
I guess just carry on?
I can reroll if you want?
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Rolled 60, 44, 65 = 169 (3d100)

>>4903569
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>>4903592
ayyyyyye
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>>4903592
>>4903576
>>4903574
>60,75,89
Nice
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>>4903574
>>4903576
>>4903592
60/100, 75/100, 89/100. Impressive success, writing.
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I just remembered Ubo came back from his trip to find out more about his past. I wonder if he found some answers.
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>>4903523
“I’m ready, show me how you do it.” you say, ready to go. “Your technique sounds interesting.”
“First, raise your aura out around yourself.” she instructs, the golden flame-like aura of Super Saiyan 3 blazing around her body. “Then once you’ve done that, focus on your aura.”
“Haaa!” you shout, emerald aura blazing up as you unleash your Ascended Berserker’s full power. “Like this?”
“You’ll get tired real quick if you do this at full power, but to see it for yourself it’ll be fine.” she advises. “Now, focus on your ki itself, the energy radiating off your body. Shape it, much like you would with your Barrier into a sphere around you.”

As she says this her aura shifts, and instead of pulsing up from the ground like a flame it pulses out from her from all sides. The usual shape of aura changes, forming a sphere around her just wider that she is tall.

“And once you’ve achieved this much, all that’s left is training your longevity and range.” she says, the sphere rapidly expanding out from her. As it grows the light becomes less concentrated, aura dimming until you can no longer see it around her. But you can feel it, her presence absolutely surrounds you right now. “Alright, give it a shot.”
“Here goes.” you say, sighing out and closing your eyes. You focus exclusively on your aura and your aura alone, feeling your energy surge to the beating of your heart. You feel your energy around you, focusing on it and shaping it. As Meloka had, you focus on letting your energy out from you into a circle. At first your aura doesn’t want to, it resisting moving against it’s natural shape. But with sustained effort your blazing emerald power bends to your will, radiating out from you in a controlled sphere instead of just going wild.

“Well well, look at you.” Meloka says with a smile, your energy forming a sphere around you just wider than you are tall. Looks like you’re getting it. “Now, close your eyes and focus.”
“Sure.” you reply, closing your eyes and focusing on holding your aura where it is. As you do, suddenly through your aura you sense something moving fast right at you! It’s about the size of your fist, moving fast right towards your face. Without opening your eyes you reach up, catching what feels to be a rock in your right hand. Opening your eyes, you see Meloka smirking at you.
cont
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>>4903701
“Heh, looks like you’re getting it.” she says, you looking at her curiously. “You felt that, didn’t you? The moment it entered your aura, you sensed it.”
“Yeah, I did.” you say, looking at it a moment before tossing it back. Meloka catches it with telekinesis, lifting another dozen or so off the ground as well. “Let’s keep going.”

Again you close your eyes, all focus going to your aura as Meloka prepares to toss more of the stones your way. For the next twenty or so minutes she keeps pitching rocks at you, and thanks to the awareness on your energy you can feel it every time something enters that range. So despite not “seeing” the rocks coming, you’re able to catch or deflect each and every of them. But then something’s different, you sense energy blasting at you. Not from the side Meloka just pitched one at you from, but behind you!

“HAAA!!” you shout, spinning and giving a right backhand to the sphere of energy fired at you. Your reflect launches it up and over you, flying off into the forest before crashing down and exploding. Opening your eyes, you see a familiar, but surprised face you deflected their sneak attack.

But who shot it at you?
>King Vegeta
>Nappa
>Leyas
>Tunnip
>Ubo
>Turles
>Bardock
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>>4903705
>King Vegeta
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>>4903705
>King Vegeta
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>>4903705
>>Nappa
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>>4903705
>>King Vegeta
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>>4903705
Another passive so awesome that it makes the choice even harder.
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Rolled 70, 1 = 71 (2d100)

>>4903747
If that were to be a vote with an objectively-better choice than the others, it wouldn’t be worth having a vote on. Also, end of this episode(hopefully) will be the vote for them, and it’ll be another week-long vote post-thread.
>>4903707
>>4903712
>>4903719
>>4903743
King Vegeta wins it, writing. He’s not your average Saiyan King anymore
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>>4903757
>1
[King of Jobbing intensifies]
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>>4903806
>>4903757

Even in a universe where he's not nearly as much of an arrogant cunt, Vegeta is still cursed to job.
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>>4903705
“Afternoon, King Vege-!” you start, then realize something’s different. “No way. You, you’ve really done it!”
“Indeed I have.” he says with a smirk, lightning dancing around his body as he clenches a fist before him. His longer hair has grown down over his shoulders, crimson fur waving in the breeze his aura’s kicked up. “Once more I have attained the primal power of our race! Behold, the power of Primal Vegeta!”
“Well, this is certainly a surprise. But not an unwelcome one.” you say, ending Meloka’s technique and focusing on your ki sense. And to your surprise, he’s far stronger than you. In his Primal form, Vegeta’s power is currently around double your own. Yet you doubt this is the full extent of his might. “So why’re you here? Wanting to test this power out?”

“Heh. You know me too well, Karn.” King Vegeta says with a smirk. “Who better to test my ultimate power against than you?”
“Well, I’ll accept your challenge.” you say, lifting up into the air. He rises up as well, the two of you floating a dozen or so yards apart with golden and emerald auras flaring wildly. The two of you stare each other down for several seconds, then simultaneously blitz forward and swing a heavy right for each other. Your fists clash, and just as you’d sensed he’s stronger than you. The shockwave blasts the both of you back away, and even despite your larger frame, are knocked back further from the king than he is from you.

“Come on, let me see just how strong this form is!” Vegeta replies, flaring his aura up even further. Looks like he’s fired up and ready for a fight. But what about you? How do you handle this?

Well?
>Use your Energy Body again, and let him focus on attacking while you defend
>Focus your ki sense again, and try dodging his attacks with your Instant Transmission
>Expand your aura again as Meloka’d showed you, test it against a more powerful threat
>Try and use your Foresight against him, see if you can predict his attacks
>Other(write in)
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>>4903837
>Use your Energy Body again, and let him focus on attacking while you defend
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>>4903837
>Use your Energy Body again, and let him focus on attacking while you defend
Time for the stress test.
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>>4903837
>Use your Energy Body again, and let him focus on attacking while you defend
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>>4903837
>>Use your Energy Body again, and let him focus on attacking while you defend
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>>4903837
>Use your Energy Body again, and let him focus on attacking while you defend
Let's if it can tank some serious massive power from Vegeta's new form.
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>>4903850
>>4903851
>>4903852
>>4903860
>>4903865
Use your Energy Body again unanimously wins. Roll me a 3d100

First DC: 40
Second DC: 60
Third DC: ??
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Rolled 2, 79, 68 = 149 (3d100)

>>4903887
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Rolled 207 (1d1003)

>>4903887
BRING IT ON KING!
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Rolled 7, 11, 50 = 68 (3d100)

>>4903887
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Rolled 37, 55, 14 = 106 (3d100)

>>4903887
bruh fuck my sausage fingers
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Rolled 92, 46, 16 = 154 (3d100)

>>4903887
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>>4903897
Damn. Just a moment too late.
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>>4903837
>Use your Energy Body again, and let him focus on attacking while you defend
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>>4903890
How...?
>>4903888
>>4903891
>>4903894
37/100, 79/100, 68/100. Failure, success, and a mystery. Writing
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Never mind it was not the same post and ID. So close.
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Rolled 79, 97, 60 = 236 (3d100)

>>4903887
Hold on I can do it I got it
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>>4903903
The drop bar on the options lines only had "dice+1d100" saved, so I just clicked chose that and clicked on it to swap the 1 for a 3.
It then moved my cursor all the way to the end of the text despite the fact that I right before the 1, and then it also ate my backspace input.
This is why I need to double check shit.
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>>4903837
“Let’s do this!” you say, crossing your arms before you and focusing. You draw your aura in, preparing to harden it into your Energy Body. But before you can, suddenly there’s a fist in your jaw!
“Too slow!” Vegeta shouts, his attack launching you back. The punch sends you spinning, twisting around two or three times before righting yourself. And he’s already right back in your face, this time firing a straight left for your face. “HAAAA!!”
“Tch!” you exhale, twisting back counterclockwise around his fist. You feel the wind from his punch across your face, and as he sails past you reach up with your right hand and grab the back of his head. With a twist you spin, continuing the momentum and launch Vegeta with a, “RRRAAAAAAA!!”

With a roar you pitch King Vegeta back down planetside. He sails down, smashing through a couple trees before crashing to the ground deep in the forest. Using your second or two before he comes back at you you focus, and once more shape ki into your glowing Energy Body. Emerald ki coalesces, forming an inches-thick barrier between your body and the outside world. An instant later you hear Vegeta blast off, and see his golden aura exploding up out of the trees. You take your fighting stance, left arm up defensively and right arm back ready to fight. Vegeta blasts off the ground towards you, aura blazing.

“HAAAAAAAAA!!” he roars, blitzing towards you.
“HRRRAAAAAA!!” you bellow, charging towards him as well. You both pull back your right fists, then still roaring swing. Your giant fist slams into his more-powerful punch, Energy Body robbing his strike of much of his blow’s power. So the resulting shockwave blasts far more into him than you, knocking Vegeta back. Using your power you twist, left forearm slamming into his chest as you charge through him. Your speed continues forward, driving Vegeta back and slam him back-first into and through one of New Salda’s giant trees before launching him away. “RRRAAAAA!!”

BOOM
BOOM
BOOM

BOOOOM

You watch the king smash right through several giant trees before finally coming to a stop, the timber falling and making a cleared path between the two of you. You see him embedded back-first into a tree, held in place by the wood. After a second you feel his power climbing, roaring to the sky as he unleashes his power.

“HRRRRYAAAAAAA!!” he roars, Explosive Wave shattering the tree and freeing him from it’s ligneous embrace. The tree falls behind him, crashing to the earth as Vegeta once more takes his fighting stance. You do the same, gaze meeting the king’s with a smirk. Time to see just how well this technique really works!

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 paused-
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>>4903966
And that’s it for this weekend, everyone enjoying this episode so far? Liking your choices for a passive skill so far, and ready to see what else you could potentially choose from? Ready to see just how powerful Primal King Vegeta is, and how much he’s improved? All this and more, when episode 159 resumes!
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>>4903973
So has he actually figured out primal properly yet or did he luck into it again this time
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>>4904079
You’ll just have to wait and see. I will say though, Vegeta’s been pushing himself every day.
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>>4903973
>And that’s it for this weekend, everyone enjoying this episode so far?
Yes.

I guess Energy Body would help to withstand the pressure of the deep ocean.
Could it be used to filter through what comes through that barrier? Right now Karn is breathing, so this is not blocked. Could it filter Destron gas from normal air? Can this sort of thing be done with this technique?
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If we went with Hamon as passive would we reach level so high it could melt flesh like in this gif?

If those around us all learned and practiced Hamon too would it protect them from skin cancer?
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>>4903973
>Ready to see just how powerful Primal King Vegeta is, and how much he’s improved? All this and more, when episode 159 resumes!
Can you do the Ultra Super Saiyan with primal? Imagine primal Vegeta's strength with this.
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>>4904121
I forget, did we tell Vegeta about the level(s) beyond Primal?
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>>4903973
Yeah, this dive into the passive options has been pretty neat. Vegeta being in primal again already is great, him being able to access that reliably is one of the things that seems necessary before we try for Berserker 3.
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>>4904399
Glad you enjoyed.
And yes, to an extent. No, it cannot act as a filter. Your Barrier potentially could, but not this.
>>4904402
If you strengthened your lungs and perfected your breathing, yes. But that would require active and passive Hamon training.
No. Your own gif proves that.
>>4904404
Potentially, although by that point most have realized how pointless the form is.
>>4904410
He’s aware.
>>4904418
Glad you’re enjoying. Going to be a difficult vote upcoming at(hopefully) the end of this episode, but whichever is picked will give great benefits.
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>>4904425
>Potentially, although by that point most have realized how pointless the form is.
It is not that pointless. It has a flaw of being slower. Yet despite this it is in fact quite useful. Remember when long ago Meloka fought Komand'r?
>Mel used her Super Saiyan speed to get close to Blackfire.
>When she had her, she transformed into Ultra Super Saiyan.
>There's no running away when Meloka already grabbed her.
>Meloka increased her strength at the cost of speed, but in that situation it did not matter, since her opponent could not runaway.

In Saiyan Conqueror Quest 158 Epilogue Chaya used it for a few moments to get more power, and then quickly reverted when it was no longer needed.

Now in a hypothetical situation where primal Vegeta has already grabbed his opponent and then he quickly transformed into Ultra version of Primal the lack of speed will not be a problem.
>Vegeta's iron grip is already on his opponent.
>With Ultra it suddenly became 2x stronger.
>2x Primal is more than a lot.
> Rain of such strong punches proceeds from Vegeta.
Opponent is not going to have nice time in this situation.

Now obviously it is very situational, but in right moment Ultra can be helpful. Especially if you can transform in and out of it quickly. Plus it does not have the body damaging factor that Kaio Ken has.
Anyway Berserker transformations are much better than all of this.
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There is one thing that Karn has not done in a long time. Oozaru transformation.

Don't get me wrong. I'm really glad with the way Karn's path has been.
>From being the first Super Saiyan and focusing on mastering it.
> To transforming into Berserker for the first time and going further that path.
>Now striving to reach Berserker 3 and Berserker God.
It's great. I support it.

But I was thinking maybe Karn could transform once into Oozaru and have some sparing with another Oozaru just for fun?
>Experience some gorilla warfare.
Someone else will throw the Power Ball.
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>>4905074
Pretty sure our Legendary mutation made that inadvisable at best. Like, erase the planet inadvisable.
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>>4905076
Ok. I don't want to accidentally go Emerald Oozaru and blow up whole planet.
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>>4905081
Its only Emerald Oozaru at this point man. After going through the mutation, we don't have anything but Green Monkey, and Berserk Primal. Well, besides what we do now.
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Looks like the new captcha hasn’t hit this board yet
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>>4905071
It burns a LOT of power to transform into that state, and exponentially more to hold onto it as well.
>>4905074
True. Karn hasn’t transformed into an ape since his first Emerald Oozaru.
>>4905076
As long as you don’t go Super with it, it should be okay.
>>4905180
Oh hell what now?
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>>4905187
>Oh hell what now?
Hiro’s implementing a new captcha on the bigger boards for now it seems. Retarded anons are getting filtered by it and discussion is slowing down.
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>>4905190
Filter all the npcs and bots, would improve the faster boards
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>>4905187
>It burns a LOT of power to transform into that state, and exponentially more to hold onto it as well.
Okay. Then you are right. It's not very good. Pointless and a transformation dead end.
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>>4905187
>Oh hell what now?
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>>4905229
bruh what
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>>4905218
It can be useful, if you take the time to really master the form. But considering what forms are beyond that require more focus to hit, going for Ultra at that point is a net negative.
>>4905229
>>4905267
Been trying it out, and honestly it’s a far faster captcha for me. Can’t wait till it moves here
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>>4905218
That form is okay if you don't have SS2 and you want to be tanky or fire a lot of powerful energy attacks for a short period. SS2 generally outclasses it while having none of the major drawbacks.
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>>4905555
Checked.
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So I have a question for you all, which intermission interests you?
>Chaya and Broly vs their siblings, Broly pov
>Caulifla pov of the fight, and then what happens next
>King Vegeta, leading up to his fight with Karn
>Other? Any creative ideas over current-ish events?
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>>4905646
>King Vegeta, leading up to his fight with Karn
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>>4905646
>King Vegeta, leading up to his fight with Karn
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>>4905646
>>King Vegeta, leading up to his fight with Karn
Also, the new Captcha is here, and I hate it. Have a meme.
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>>4905646
Actually, just thought about it, is Kars POV an option?
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>>4905646
Maybe something related to Nappa or Bardock? It feels like it’s been a minute since we’ve really seen anything from them.
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>>4905791
Not at the moment
>>4905809
They’re with King Vegeta. They’re the ones he’s been training Golden Oozaru with
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>>4905646
>Freeza's thoughts and hindsight on the battle with the Time Patrol
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>>4905646
>Caulifla pov of the fight, and then what happens next
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Can Energy Body block Hamon? If a Hamon so intense that it can melt flesh would strike Karn would Energy Body be able to protect Karn?
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Any chance for some glimpse into what King Cold is doing? He has been studying Stand Dagger for some time and he's been nearly fully healed by Caulifa.
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>>4905646
>King Vegeta, leading up to his fight with Karn
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So what if all three options are interesting? Any chances we will see other options at the Epilogue? Maybe another vote for epilogue that will include those options that were not selected in this vote now (plus perhaps some new)?

>Chaya and Broly vs their siblings, Broly pov
I'm very curious about this too.
>Caulifla pov of the fight, and then what happens next
This one makes me think something unexpected will be shown if we pick this.
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>>4905646
>Other
I'd like anything with Ubo, Bardock or Turles, especially Ubo, he's done a lot of good for us and I miss having him around.
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>>4905905
>>4906417
Those are interesting POVs too.
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>>4906349
You’d have to test it to see. Remember, Energy Body works best against physical attacks.
>>4906357
Not for awhile. I keep his pov as closed off as possible, simply as to prevent you all from getting too much ooc knowledge on the happenings around the universe.
>>4906361
Good. I don’t like giving boring choices, although this wasn’t a vote and more to gauge interest. Already started on the one I think will be best going into the second part of this episode.
Let’s just say Caulifla doesn’t stick around for the whole fight.
>>4906417
>Ubo
Soon, I promise. What I will say is he’s been helping.
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>>4906584
Also, the DBS card game has declared war. Well, looks like I have to get that Karn deck commissioned now.
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>>4906705
The fuck is this?
>Captcha has sliderbar to align the password
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>>4906705
>Also, the DBS card game has declared war. Well, looks like I have to get that Karn deck commissioned now.
Ganbare GD, don't let the THOT win.
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>>4906710
Honestly like the new captcha. I can get it done in less that ten seconds usually
>>4906720
Gonna be mono-red, and based off of Explosive Power Kefla. Will need a lot more art though, then someone to card-ify them. If anyone’s good with ‘shop or similar hit me up
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>>4906755
If the captcha is clear, yeah, it is pretty easy to complete. It doesn't disconnect out of nowhere like the old one on me either.
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>>4906584
>You’d have to test it to see. Remember, Energy Body works best against physical attacks.
True, true. I guess we need to test Energy Body extensively before deciding whether take it or not as a passive.

So things that need to be tested that I can think of right now is how well Energy Body protects from:
>Massive physical hits
We are just testing it with primal Vegeta.

>Hamon
Is there anyone nearby that can do it?

>Various types of magic
Chili, Raven, Megumin can help with this.

>Can it stop water?
If Karn dives into the depths of the ocean will he remain dry as long the Energy Body is on? That is important if we can block out the water then risk of drowning gets significantly lower.

>Massive Heat (and extreme temperatures in general)
Remember how there was instance when Karn's spherical Barrier stopped attack, but the huge heat of it still was getting through? It would be nice if Energy Body could prevent Karn from getting burned by fire as well as not getting cooked inside is Energy Body by the heat itself .
This also is linked to the topic if Karn could use Energy Body to survive getting submerged into lava.

>Divine Dragon Force
This needs multiform. Two Karns and one summons DDF. I's probably easy to guess that Divine Dragon Force will not be slowed by Energy Body and will be able to move through it like a ghost, but better to check for sure. If using DDF will interact in some way with DDF it's good to know now, though it seems unlikely.

>Force Lightning?
>Bane's light saber?
Those are things that he can help Karn test.

That's it for now that I can think of that we could test Energy Body against.
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>>4907228
Prefer they keep the slide honestly. Best way to anti-bot I’ve seen.
>>4907470
It is for physical damage. And although ki attacks are also physical, it is less effective against them. Especially piercing/slashing.
There are things I can’t say about it, until you spend a lot of time training and fully understand the limits of each of the possible techniques. I will say, however, that none of the passives would interfere with Stands.
>Multiform
Can you even summon your Stand while you’re not whole? If you’re only 1/2 of yourself and your will, could you manifest a Stand?
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QM UPDATE

This intermission got me feeling nostalgic, what have been some of you all’s favorite non-Karn-focused moments of the quest so far? Who’s eyes have you enjoyed watching our boy through most, and which character(s) are you hoping gets more screen time? Also have more comms in the works, branching out a bit and getting different characters art’d up.
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>>4907960
Our old crew we haven't seen in years. Vegeta and his wife to be being cute rulers together. Raven and Ubo learning about the joys of not having to deal with her Dad. The Ginyu Force on leave, and Chado on his planet of bitches. What our friends kids get up too. Freeza when he doing his job and wishing he could be at our place working out.
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>>4907976
Let me just say this, a lot of people are showing up to watch this spar. Everyone paying attention and not hyper focusing their awareness on King Vegeta sensed him transform again.
>Vegeta and his wife
The king is still unmarried.
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>>4907960
I'll be honest, we haven't seen much of anything beyond the absolute Minimum with Kakarot, I'd like to see him, and how he's going on his journey to get stronger, at least a little bit more.
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>>4907988
>The king is still unmarried.
Which is why I said, to be, it just hasn't happened yet.
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>>4907988
GD, your farmboy is showing. He said wife to be, not wife.
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>>4908004
We’ll see more of the boy, when Vox’s clever plans for what to do with Chaya on New Salda get revealed. Mini-tournament side-arc anyone?
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>>4908017
FUCK YEAH!
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>>4908013
>>4908014
And you all are implying a relationship between two characters that clearly isn’t what’s going on between them. He currently doesn’t have any prospects, although I will say several have their eyes on him.
>>4908018
It’s going to be fun
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>>4908017
Oh, hell to the FUCK YEAH!
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>>4908037
>clearly
Clearly.
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>>4907960
> Who’s eyes have you enjoyed watching our boy through most,
Any random nobody. Major characters perspectives are fine, but I like it most when we see the layman’s thoughts of Karn.
> and which character(s) are you hoping gets more screen time?
Nappa, Bardock, Kakarot, Ubo just to name a few. Pretty much any of our friends and associates that we haven’t had meaningful interaction with in a while.
>>4908017
Mini-tournament side-arc anyone?
Definite yes
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>>4908037
>although I will say several have their eyes on him.
Lucky man. Glad he was able to make something of himself.
Was Xeno-Vegeta ever told about just how far ahead our Vegeta is in terms of mental and physical growth?
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>>4908041
Going to take up the intermission slots for a bit once it starts, but it’ll be interesting to see both new and returning faces fighting in lower stakes battles.
>>4908050
?
>>4908060
Those’re usually somewhere between a mythological hero in the flesh to a world-destroying demon out for blood. Depending on who’s side they’re on.
You’ll see at least three of them soon.
>>4908079
He is the king, and dealing with more important matters than physical desire. Not the least of which is surpassing Karn, and claiming his place as the strongest Saiyan.
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>>4908091
>He is the king, and dealing with more important matters than physical desire.
Got it, his balls still haven't dropped.
>Not the least of which is surpassing Karn, and claiming his place as the strongest Saiyan
Fantastic. You gotta hang with the best to be the best, so I'm glad he's taking the initiative and coming at us with everything he's got.
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>>4908091
>He is the king, and dealing with more important matters than physical desire. Not the least of which is surpassing Karn, and claiming his place as the strongest Saiyan.
Well he's got it for the next.....3-4 years? Until we do the ritual and break into Berserker 3. Then he's gunna need to Apex to beat us out.
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>>4908110
The way I see it, he might just be neck and neck with us in the next decade or so. He's still fairly young, he has a lot of room to grow.
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I think young Vegeta will probably surpass us within the next few years, in terms of power, and just stay above us from then. But that's kinda natural, isn't it? He's from the next generation, and was training on a higher level from a younger age. Even if he ends up higher in raw power, Karn will still always have things Vegeta never did, such as DDF, so I don't see it as that big of a deal.
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>>4908017
>Mini-tournament side-arc anyone?
Absolutely yes.
>>4907988
>Let me just say this, a lot of people are showing up to watch this spar.
It's going to be so good.
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>>4908655
>Letting Vegeta surpass Karn like that
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>>4908017
We should invite Goku. He'd have fun.
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>>4908098
He’s 17. But his mind rules his body.
King Vegeta has certainly not slowed down his own training since the war ended.
>>4908110
We’ll see about it, won’t we?
>>4908131
>He's still fairly young, he has a lot of room to grow.
Yes he does. Whereas Karn has “peaked”, in the sense he’s not getting significantly stronger just by maturing.
>>4908655
Even if Vegeta stays solidly ahead of you, he still wouldn’t be the strongest on New Salda as long as Ubo’s around.
>>4908816
Good, because it’s HAPPENING
This will be Vegeta’s second serious spar that day.
>>4908821
Why would you invite any time patroller to your timeline?
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>>4908890
>Why would you invite any time patroller to your timeline?

Who said it’s Xeno Goku? It could be Goku from that one timeline where Chaya was raised on Earth.
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-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 Intermission-

AGE 749, NEW SALDA

“Was that the last one for today?” you ask, sighing and slumping in your throne.
“He was the last.” Emilia says from behind your shoulder. In her first, childlike form the Zoldyck assassin has been your constant shadow for the past several years. Even before you beat her father. “No more petitioners or disputes scheduled for you today, my king.”
“Finally.” you say, rising from the Saiyan King throne and stretching both arms overhead.

You are King Vegeta the Fourth, undisputed ruler of the Saiyan race and former disciple of the legendary Super Saiyan Karn himself. And although it’s been years since he was your teacher, his lessons of hard work, never giving up, and winning no matter the personal cost have stuck with you. Through the Covenant War, the different invasions your people have struggled against, and even the nobles’ Uprising, you have remained strong and steadfast. And also diligent in your own training. Being right means nothing without the power to enforce it, and to protect what’s yours. So as you stretch you walk from the room, headed out the back door to resume your training today.

“Finished with those guys already?” Nappa asks you, falling in with the Royal Guard as you stride through the fortress of a palace towards the nearest exit. “I don’t see why you bother with all this.”
“The people need to know I am here for them.” you explain, giving a sideways glance to one of Vox’s cameras as you continue walking down the hall. “All of them. If they think I don’t have the greatest good in mind, we could one day face another Uprising.”
“HA! You say that like you and Emilia there didn’t clean house.” Nappa says with a chuckle, you and your entourage leaving the palace and taking to the sky. Over half of the Guard remain behind, only Galick and two of his chosen accompany you on this training exercise. And they’re chosen for a very specific reason. “Well well, looks like Bardock’s already here.”

The six of you drop out of the sky, landing in a well-worn crater made by weeks of giants sparring. This spot, well out of the way from the city and near the far edge of the continent, is the perfect place for the training you all do.

“About time you showed up.” Bardock grumbles, sitting up on the rock he’d been laying on. Beside him are Leyas and Sarada, both of who’m have recently joined in with their more unique form. Thanks to their bodies being reconstructed by demon magic years ago. “Ready to get to work?”
“Of course.” you say, focusing your ki into a sphere in your hand. You pitch the orb skyward, it floating hopefully out of the coming brawl’s range as you clench your fist. “Burst open and mix!!”
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>>4908962
The orb’s energies mix, radiating with Blutz Waves similarly to a full moon which New Salda doesn’t possess. But with this technique relying on natural moonlight is irrelevant, as you’re thankful for while flashing up into a Super Saiyan before staring up at it. You feel it immediately, the primal thirst for combat surging through your body as it begins transforming.

“Guuuuhaaaah! Grrrrraaaaaa! GRRRROOOOAAAAAAARRR!!” you bellow, transforming into your giant Golden Oozaru form. You see three other Golden Oozaru, Bardock, Nappa, and Galick all having transformed too. But every Oozaru here isn’t golden, Leyas and Sarada having taken on their pale-furred, red-eyes Demonic Oozaru forms.
“GRRRAAAAAAAA!!” Leyas roars, immediately swinging at you with a wild right. But you were ready, left backhanding his strike over your head while punching him in the chest with your right. “Guuurh!?”

“RRRAAAAAAA!!” you roar, grabbing his right wrist with your left and using your arms to throw him up and over your head. As he soars through the sky, suddenly another fist strikes you in the right side of your jaw. “Guuurrruuh?”
“RRROOOOOAAAAAAAA!!” Sarada bellows, her hard left knocking you off balance and spinning you around. You stagger a couple steps back, finding your balance just as she leaps at you swinging both fists down like meteoric hammers. You brace for impact, knowing you can’t stop that much force and catch her attack on your crossed arms. The powerful blow knocks you off your feet, but you don’t just take it. The moment your feet leave the ground you curl up, grabbing onto her wrists as your back hits the ground and kick her in the gut with both feet. Your blow launches her over you as you roll back onto all fours, just in time to see Bardock knock Nappa back down to earth.

“GWWWRRRROOOOOAAAAAAAR!!!” Bardock bellows in the air, fists pounding his chest in challenge. A challenge you’re more than willing to accept.
“RRRROOOOAAAAAAARR!!” you roar, immediately launching yourself into the air at him. And you weren’t alone, everyone else doing the same within a few seconds. You lose yourself for a time in the brawl, dishing out and taking hits from everyone including Galick. But after a time the others begin firing out, first Galick who’s had the least experience with the form. Then Leyas and Sarada, and finally Nappa too. Leaving just you and Bardock. Except he’s no longer fighting, instead staring up at the power ball curiously. You then watch as he closes his eyes, attempting to condense his power. You realize what he’s trying and don’t attack, but already realize this way won’t work for achieving Primal.

“This power responds to a need, not a desire.” Karn’s voice from the day you finally achieved it rings in your mind, and suddenly you have an idea.
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>>4908964
“Raven, you and Ubo wouldn’t happen to have a few minutes to help me with something, would you?” you think to the planet’s Guardian and Ubo. If anyone can help you with this, it’s them.
“Of course, what is it?” she asks, you quickly outlining your idea and then ask if it’ll work. A second later one of her portals appears beside your head. “You do realize how dangerous this is, right? Even like this he’s several times stronger than you.”
“That’s exactly what I need.” you reply, voice a dull roar. “A need, not a desire.”
“As you wish.” she replies, and after a few seconds you feel it. Ubo’s powerful ki rocketing down from somewhere in space towards New Salda. It’s time. You see the blazing red of his aura dropping down towards you, the alien being many dozens of times stronger than you in this form. “Close your eyes, Vegeta. And see the wall you wish to overcome.”

And you do, closing your eyes for a few seconds. You feel Raven’s magic in your mind, an uncomfortable sensation to be sure, but when you open your eyes there he is. Floating where Ubo was now stands Karn, long emerald hair of his Super Saiyan 3 form flowing just as it had on Sanghelios last time you’d battled him. And even injured to the point of being crippled, he’d managed to keep up with your Primal power. But not this time!

“RRRRRAAAAAAA!!” you roar, firing off a quick left jab and immediately follow it up with a right hook. “Karn” before you dodges the jab easily, then flies up over your right. Before you can retaliate he’s closed the distance, and slams a boot right into your nose. His blow is several times stronger than Sarada’s and makes your eyes water, hands instinctively going to your face as you stagger back. Yet as soon as you do, you realize what a mistake it is. A titanic force suddenly slams into your gut, launching you up into the air as it winds you. “GUUUUURH!!”

And again before you can recover, a tremendous force slams into your back and sends you crashing down to the ground. You lay there dazed for a moment, then begin pushing yourself back upright to see Karn gathering a massive ball of energy overhead. As you see him, emerald aura blazing, your mind goes back to that fay, years ago...

“The power responds to a need, not a desire right?” you’d asked him on the alien world, after Towa’d again saved Meloka and you’d spent so much time trying to regain that golden power you now wield with ease. “I need you to hit me with everything you’ve got! Either I become a Super Saiyan again right here, right now, or I die. If it kills me, I’m unworthy to lead you or any other Saiyan!”

Karn had lept into the air, and much like right now he’d gathered a giant energy bomb overhead to drop onto you. It’s time!
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>>4908968
“HAAAAAA!” ‘Karn’ bellows, launching the crimson orb down.
“GALICK GUN!!” you shout, gathering your own energy as well into the purple beam. “FIRE!!!”

Your purple beam soars up into the sky, crashing into the slowly descending ball of death. You push with all your might, but your strength still doesn’t measure up! You strain against Karn’s tremendous attack, it headed right for you and pushing your beam back despite you giving it everything you’ve got!

“SHIT!” you shout, dropping your attack and catching the ball with your giant hands, The weight and power of Karn’s might slams down onto you, and you feel it begin slowly crushing you.
“No, I’m not done yet!” you think, knees buckling under this power. Your feet digdown into the ground, his attack overpowering even your prodigious Golden Oozaru might.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SOISIvPHHOc

Then you begin to feel something rising inside you, something alien yet somehow familiar. Like a raging inferno the swelling of power starts in the tip of your tail, surging down into your hips and up into your spine as your entire body spasms. You feel rage, primal fury at Karn still being ahead of you despite so much of your life being dedicated to surpassing him that burns you alive!

“GRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!” you roar with primal ferocity, a power surging up from deep within you. You remember this power from the times you’ve touched it before, and let it surge forth from the depths of your soul unhindered. This glorious golden power flows up, body rapidly shrinking as your body condenses and magnifies the power of the Golden Oozaru several times over. And as the transformation finishes you hold the attack back with your left hand, it no longer overwhelming and easy enough to hold back one-handed. Drawing back your right fist, you take careful aim then punch it right back! You watch the massive blast soar back up into the air, Ubo narrowly dodging his own hit.

“N-No way! He really did it!” Sarada shouts, you smirking as everyone who’s already reverted back down gathers around. Both Ubo and Raven do as well, Ubo for curiosity’s sake and Raven with a smile. You turn to the two of them, and offer a crisp Saiyan salute.
“Thank you. Both of you.” you say, then again take your fighting stance. “So Ubo. Want to help me test the limits of this form?”
“HA! Now that’s more like it!” Ubo shouts, taking his own fighting stance as Raven and everyone else flies back away from the two of you. This is gonna be fun! “HRRRRAAAAA!!”
“HAAAAAAAAA!!”

BOOOOOM
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>>4908969
Your fists collide with tremendous, earth-shaking force as you and Ubo clash. Not only is your power far greater, but in the Primal form your body has changed. No longer is it that of a teenager, but has morphed into that of a man in his prime. You’re taller, more muscular, and have greater reach, on top of the tremendous increase in power. As well as ferocity.

“GGRRRRAAAAA!!” you roar, ducking one of the taller man’s punches and slamming your shoulder into his gut. He wheezes in surprise, you taking advantage of the moment and wrap your arms around his midsection. Something you couldn’t do before. Then before he can recover you plant your feet, and with all your might flip him backwards. “RRRRAAAAAAAAA!!”

KABOOOM

Leaping back away and turning, you see your attack buried Ubo’s upper body completely in the ground, leaving only his lower body and legs sticking straight up in the air.

“That’s it, my king!” Galick cheers you on.
“Woah!” Sarada shouts excitedly. “No way!”
“Hell yeah!” Leyas cheers.
“HRRRRRR!!” Ubo exerts, ground bursting up around him as he blasts his way free. He revolves his body around upright, looking no worse for wear. “Haha! Now this is getting interesting! You’re a lot stronger now!”
“Thanks. Been trying to retake this form for weeks.” you say, again retaking your stance. “Wanna keep going?”
“Of course!” Ubo replies, crimson aura suddenly blazing up around him as his strength magnifies. “Let’s go!”

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 Intermission End-
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>>4908970
Good on you Vegeta for finally figuring it out properly.

Now I want to see his reaction to finding out that Karn can't become a SSG and instead the ritual will unlock his Berserker 3 form.

He will become THE BIGGER GREEN. And I'm hoping we get the early Berserk thing of turning all of reality Green around us as everything starts getting distorted.
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>>4908981
Now the real question is if he can do it again. And you make an important point to be addressed one day, maybe soon. Does Vegeta know you CAN’T be the Super Saiyan God to face Beerus in a few years?
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>>4909041
If we've already unlocked Berserker 3 by the time Beerus rolls around, would the ritual even do anything?
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Also, huge update, first piece done by a new artist! Huge thanks to @arantking, visit their page for a sneak peek on the full view of this great piece of Sarada!

>>4909044
No, would not do anything.
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>>4909041
No he does not.

>>4909054
>No, would not do anything.
Didn't you say doing the Ritual after we unlocked Berserker 3 would make it easier to get Berserker God since it would fuck with that inner spark of divinity?
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>>4909054
SAVED!
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>>4909075
That is Berserker 3. It is a rejection of the divine hierarchy.
>>4909086
It’s some great work! Looking forward to many more
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>>4909094
I also don't have a social media account, so I await the drop of the full thing.
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>>4909104
It’ll happen when this episode resumes, hopefully. Depending on how your match with Vegeta and/or the aftermath goes.
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>>4908890
I mean, we would invite Ace.
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>>4909289
Unfortunately (for the Supreme Kai of Time) he's officially no longer considered a Time Patroller.
And once he actually starts putting in work for the winning team, he can call himself a Time Breaker.
Just like his future father-in-law.
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>>4909293
Time breaker more like BITCH breaker. Skotti gonna fucking lose it when she sees him.
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>>4909296
Honestly, the best part of the inevitable confrontation between Ace and the Time Patrol is revealing he was under mind control the entire time.
I'm pretty sure the only one who wouldn't immediately put two and two together and consider switching sides would be Xeno Goku since he really doesn't seem to care about anything anymore.
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>>4909289
But is he a Time Patroller anymore?
>>4909293
>once he actually starts putting in work
Funny you should mention that. Is your Towa getting involved, or letting the timelines fight it out while focusing on her kids?
>>4909296
Another reason he’ll only be called out when it’s dire.
>>4909298
>>4909316
>revealing
But the rebuttal is too simple.
Towa: “You mind controlled him, but now he’s free.”
SKoT: “They’re clearly mind controlling him, remember the masks? Looks like they’ve gotten even better at it!”
Not an argument you’d be able to win against ideologues.
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>>4909534
>But the rebuttal is too simple.
It is, until you realize Ace never actually spoke while he was a Time Patroller.
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>>4909534
>Not an argument you’d be able to win against ideologues.
To be fair, once someone mind controls one person, there are very good reasons why they'd try to continue such research to the point that they could do it without the masks. It is a form of pattern recognition that is completely valid with the known goals of each side. And our Towa being substantially different from the others is probably not something they'd even consider.
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>>4909732
Do they even know anything about our Towa besides "She's a Towa."?
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>>4909735
Skotti might, but the pink menace compartmentalizes information harder than the ATF trying to pretend they're justified.
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We’re in the final stretch, 24 hours until this episode resumes!
>>4909572
No. Unless you count his memories
>>4909719
Sudden changes in behavior could be attributed to mind control
>>4909732
Right? Simple continuation that appeases the monkey brains of most Time Patrollers. They don’t work for her because they’re intelligent.
Do they even recognize one Towa from another? Besides yours showing up with Godsend and all.
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>>4909741
And that’s why you keep your taxidermied tannerite by the door. Give those commie fucks exactly what they deserve
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>>4909795
>Sudden changes in behavior could be attributed to mind control
But why would she give him a way to clearly express his thoughts if she wanted him under her thumb?
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>>4909798
Double the fun, the door is also tannerite.
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>>4909858
I wonder if tannerite makes for good insulation.
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>>4909862
I looked it up because I was curious. While I couldn't find specific heat numbers for ammonium nitrate, liquid ammonium had a comparable Sp. heat to that of water, while aluminum has a significantly lower. So it'd do okay-ish, but you'd be better served with a house of bricks to stop the little pigs from getting in.
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>>4909873
>but you'd be better served with a house of bricks to stop the little pigs from getting in
But I want them to enter my magical realm. Unimaginable horrors await all feds who breach my sanctum.
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>>4909818
Does she actually care about their opinions, and if they voice them or not? Mortal lifetimes are little more than a game to her.
>>4909862
Wouldn’t recommend, that’s an easy way to get Waco’d
>>4909875
>tfw I remember that greentext
Unfortunately the ATF are all faggots, and would enjoy a hall of dildos.
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>>4907960
>what have been some of you all’s favorite non-Karn-focused moments of the quest so far?
Too many good moments to count them all honestly, you keep the quality consistently.
>Who’s eyes have you enjoyed watching our boy through most, and which character(s) are you hoping gets more screen time?
Those are not all, but I'm going to name few interesting characters that not had that much screen time so maybe there is a chance for them to either getting more screen time or have their spotlight in the epilogue or intermission:

Saiyans:
>Sarada and Leyas
>Vegeta (It's happening now. That's very good.)
>Bardock and Gine
>Nappa
>Tunnip
From younger generation (beside Karn's kids):
>Kakarot
>Parsla

Friends and allies:
>Ubo
>Raven
Seems like there is a chance we are going to meet all of those mentioned above thanks to the sparing with Vegeta. So that's very good.

Long time not seen:
>Jojos
>Boros
>Aku

Kai related:
>Shin (Honestly I'm just curious about his reaction when he hears about what happened to Time Kai at the wedding. Does he even knows?).
>Kars (I know, not available at the moment.)
>Whis (What would he say about what happened to Chronoa?)
Beerus (This is spoilered as he is interesting too, but he is napping and I don't want to wake him up by mentioning him.)

Rarely appearing:
>King Cold (I know his POV is not available too.)

Special case:
>Freeza (I know he is busy ruling the empire, but anytime he appears it's nice.)
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>>4908970
Awesome epilogue. Great thing to read before next episode.
>>4909054
Wow. The art is so good. I can't wait to see it entirely.
>>4909094
> Looking forward to many more
Me too.
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I just realized Zamasu from our timeline is going to get even more frustrated in the future when he learns about Karn's deed at the Chili's wedding. I honestly can't imagine the depths of his anger at mortals when he learns one of them erased a Time Kai.
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Does Gine and Bardock have a third child?
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>>4910185
Glad you enjoy the quest this much. Hopefully it stays at least this good.
>Long time not seen:
Jotaro’s back to school, working on his degree in marine biology, and Joseph’s back to running his business and special tasks with the Speedwagon Foundation.
You did see Aku recently, when you went down into the ruins before Chilli’s wedding.
Shin doesn’t know, yet, but once Vox begins to distribute that footage the whole universe will see what Karn does to the Time Patrol.
Whis actually did see everything that happened there, including what happened in stopped time. And feels his worries entirely justified.
>>4910187
Not necessarily, the Cold clan are very distant rulers. It depends more on the local planetary rulers.
>>4910195
Glad you’ve enjoyed, both the epilogue and art. I have a handful of new artists doing pieces, but Arant’s is the only one already finished. Well ahead of the competition, so I have a second commission from them on the way.
>>4910198
Yes, Zamasu will be quite upset.
>>4910202
Yes they do.
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>>4910232
Also just an aside, rethinking which deck will be the one I have SCQ’d. Just tested it against the SKoT build, and yeeesh. Without Future Chaya’s help, Karn gets stomped out by SS4s Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta.
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>>4910232
>Jotaro’s back to school, working on his degree in marine biology,
Does anyone notice the weird scars he has? Is he really that done with Space Adventures(tm)? Are we going to be invited to the wedding so we can set up a playdate with his kids? Would he invite us over for a chance to hang out?
>and Joseph’s back to running his business and special tasks with the Speedwagon Foundation.
Is he drinking more or less with all the shit he's seen out in the stars?
>Shin doesn’t know, yet, but once Vox begins to distribute that footage the whole universe will see what Karn does to the Time Patrol.
>Failure will see us BTFO his Superior
Yesssss.
>Whis actually did see everything that happened there, including what happened in stopped time. And feels his worries entirely justified.
Is he more smug that he was right, or less smug because he was right?
>Yes, Zamasu will be quite upset.
GOOD, I'M GLAD, I'M HAPPY THE PUNK BITCH IS MAD, CAUSE OUR BOYS CAN HAVE THEIR OWN BITCH TO BEAT DOWN NOW!
>Yes they do.
Has anyone noticed the trend of being around to raise their kids makes them strong freaks? Or are they all just miring the Girth of our Powerlevels?
>>4910306
I don't even know what I'm looking at, but since the card game can't account for our Stand it seems kind of obvious that we'd be in trouble without our daughter.
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>>4910320
Which ones? Man got a LOT of scars from the Stardust Crusade after all.
>spoiler
We’ll see.
>Joseph
He’s working with the Speedwagon Foundation on special projects more.
>Is he more smug that he was right, or less smug because he was right?
His smug hasn’t changed.
Perhaps.
>I don't even know what I'm looking at
Well I can explain it real simple. Uses a MTG-style mana system, but instead of dedicated cards like MTG/Pokémon you can play any of the cards in that zone. Top left is cost, and Overrealm means you can play it for the cost noted beside the keyword if you send all the cards from the discard pile to out-of-play in exchange for it leaving the field at the end of the turn. Then SKoT’s effect means that those cards don’t leave at the end of her turn. So basically she goes full aggro with cards that shouldn’t hit more than once by letting them stick around.
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>>4910378
>Which ones? Man got a LOT of scars from the Stardust Crusade after all.
>Actually went across the Stars
Heh, he's his planet's ultimate boss fight now.
>We’ll see.
Baaaased
>He’s working with the Speedwagon Foundation on special projects more.
Space Defense Force? Earth Defense Force? Which is ironic sense he's probably the absolute strongest Grandpa out there, and between him, Jotoro, and the Crusader crew, they can fight off most threats out there. I can't wait to meet Josuke though. Side question, does he know we finished the Alien genocide? And did he or the other Crusaders grab a recording of it from a Dreadzone approved distributer?
>His smug hasn’t changed.
Fuckin Angels.
>Uses a MTG-style mana system, but instead of dedicated cards like MTG/Pokémon you can play any of the cards in that zone. Top left is cost, and Overrealm means you can play it for the cost noted beside the keyword if you send all the cards from the discard pile to out-of-play in exchange for it leaving the field at the end of the turn. Then SKoT’s effect means that those cards don’t leave at the end of her turn. So basically she goes full aggro with cards that shouldn’t hit more than once by letting them stick around.
That is bullshit.
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>>4910378
>So basically she goes full aggro with cards that shouldn’t hit more than once by letting them stick around
Wow, that sounds super fucking busted.
Is there a Mechikabura card with something at least comparably to how bullshit that is?
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>>4910404
>he's his planet's ultimate boss fight now.
For now.
Who knows? But he had introduced space travel to his earth in the pre-2000s. So it’ll be...interesting. As for the Crusaders, only Jotaro, Joseph, and Polnareff survived.
>That is bullshit.
Very. Runs a self-burn to put the pressure on, but it also runs so many different counters as well that retaliation is basically impossible.
>>4910426
With the Unison in play can only use Over Realm skills up to twice a turn instead of once, but yes it’s extremely busted. Even without the absolutely broken SS4 Gogeta card.
And not yet.
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SOON
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>>4910758
HYPE
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>>4910760
Yes. It’s almost time to spar the king
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>>4903966
Previously on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:

As Karn was sparring with Meloka, Chaya arrived fresh from a battle at Dreadzone that left her in tatters. Once the testing of the durability of Energy Body was finished Karn and his family, along with his old man Tatsu went out and ate. Sitting with his old man Karn told Tatsu and several older vets of his idea for making a training world for future Saiyans, a world of death to hone their talent and instincts as Planet Vegeta had done for you all. Once the meal was over Karn sent the kids off to train together while he and Meloka trained their students. As Karn’s awareness had been stifled by his technique of trying to focus constantly on the students’ ki simultaneously, King Vegeta had once more transformed. And as we rejoin Karn, you’s launched the king into one of New Salda’s giant trees.

“HRRRRYAAAAAAA!!” King Vegeta roars, Explosive Wave shattering the tree around him and freeing him from it’s ligneous embrace. The tree begins falling behind him, crashing to the earth as Vegeta once more takes his fighting stance. You do the same, gaze meeting the king’s with a smirk. Time to see just how well this Energy Body technique can compensate against his greater power. The two of you stare each other down, waiting on the other to make the first move. And Vegeta is the first to move. “HAAAAAAA!!”

Throwing his right hand forward Vegeta suddenly fires a wave of golden ki your way. But you’re ready, flying aside to his left and blitzing towards him. Vegeta ends the beam, twisting and firing a Death Slash with his left hand at you. Stopping you hold your arms before you, bracing and catching his Death Slash on your Energy Body-coated arms.

“Tch!” you exhale, feeling the sting of his energy as it slices through your armor and into your arms. But your Energy Body seemingly absorbs most of the attack’s power, you barely feel the blades barely nicking you.
“Wait, what?” King Vegeta says, you lowering your arms and inspecting the damage. And as you focus, your Energy Body quickly restoring itself.
“Heh. That wasn’t a bad hit.” you say, retaking your fighting stance. “But I hope it wasn’t your best.”
“Hardly!” he replies, golden aura blazing around him. This is going to be something else.

But how do you do this?
>Rush in and attack, use your Djem So and beat him down
>Keep rushing in and throwing him around, use your Energy Body to ignore his hits
>Defend, see just how much of his overwhelming power your Energy Body can actually withstand
>Drop your Energy Body, instead of closing in try keeping him at range with your ki attacks
>Other(write in)
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>>4910918
>Write-in: Try to close in and go for obvious weak spots to see if there's any improvement areas. The tail, exposed chest, etc.
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>>4910918
>Rush in and attack, use your Djem So and beat him down
Energy Body as a passive really seems like it would compliment our Djem-So style.
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>>4910920
I’ll say this, you know IC he already trained his tail, as you trained that with him years ago.
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>>4910918
>>Rush in and attack, use your Djem So and beat him down
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>>4910920
>>4910922
>>4910931
Rush in and attack, use your Djem So and beat him down wins. Roll me a 4d100.
First DC: 40
Second DC: 60
Third DC: 75
Fourth DC: ??
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Rolled 56, 63, 50, 49 = 218 (4d100)

>>4910952
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Rolled 15, 55, 92, 56 = 218 (4d100)

>>4910952
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Rolled 35, 72, 5, 65 = 177 (4d100)

>>4910952
Are the Captcha's even crustier all of the sudden?
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Rolled 43, 32, 47, 44 = 166 (4d100)

>>4910952
My turn.
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>>4910955
>>4910956
>>4910961
56/100, 72/100, 92/100, 65/100. Impressive attack, writing
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Should I give you despair?
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>>4911000
You can try.
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>>4911003
I'll do more than try.
https://0
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Enjoy.
My reign of terror is only just starting!
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>>4911014
It says expired.
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>>4911031
Highlight whole link, dog.
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>>4911014
Based vorechad
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>>4911014
I respect the follow through, anon.
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>>4911014
I was just beginning to wonder if you were going to deliver.
Based
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Now I should write another.
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>>4911072
More than one
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>>4911074
Researching DBZ brings me pain.
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>>4911076
Understandable. It is shit, literally
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>>4911076
Now imagine being a fan of the franchise for over a decade.
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>>4910918
“HAAAAAA!!” you roar, exploding forward and swinging for his head with a straight right. Vegeta crosses his arms, your fist crashing against his guard. However he’s still stronger than you, your strike only pushing him back a few feet before he stops you. As you feel him stopping you pull your fist back, and swing with a straight left for his head. This time Vegeta dodges, using Su Ma and twisting outside. Which leaves him wide open. Changing your attack angle you switch from a punch to an elbow, throwing your entire force behind your left elbow as you slam it into the base of his neck. “RRRRAAAAA!!”

“Gya-?!!” he exhales in surprise, your strike stunning his entire system. Before Vegeta can recover you twist, dropping a turning kick down onto him.
“HRRAAAAA!!” you roar, right shin slamming down hard onto his neck and shoulder and blasting him down to the planet’s surface. Vegeta crashes with a tremendous impact, you blitzing righr into the dust cloud his body kicked up. You see his body bouncing off the ground, snatching him by the face and slamming his head back down into the ground again. Lifting him up you then let go and slam your left fist into his gut, Vegeta wheezing in pain. Your punch would have launched him, but instead of allowing it you drop a right hammerfist down onto his left shoulder and smash him back down to the ground. But Vegeta seems to be recovering, landing on his hands and knees instead of just getting floored. So you draw your foot up, and plant your left boot square in his face as he tries rising up. “GRRRRAAAAAAA!!”

“GUYYAAAA!!” he cries, your kick launching him into the crater’s wall. Dashing over to him you grab him by the head, and start dragging his face through the wall while running around it. “Gaaaaaaaaaah?!”
“HRRAAAAAAAA!!” you roar, spinning once and then launching him up into the sky. As he flies you raise your right hand, focusing on King Vegeta ki and use your Instant Transmission up above him. Vegeta flies up at you, then suddenly spins into a whirlwind kick aimed at your head! But you’re ready, raising your left forearm aside your head and blocking the hit. Vegeta immediately backs off, flipping back away from you and retaking his fighting stance.

“Tch. That’s what I get for underestimating you.” he says, turning a bit and spitting out a bit of blood before returning his gaze to you. “I let my power go to my head. But I’m not letting you gain the upper hand again!”

Well, what now?
>Keep up the aggression, don’t give him a chance to turn this battle around
>Defend, see just how much of his overwhelming power your Energy Body can actually withstand over sustained hits
>Drop your Energy Body, instead of closing in try keeping him at range with your ki attacks
>Other(write in)
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>>4911096
>>Defend, see just how much of his overwhelming power your Energy Body can actually withstand over sustained hits
>that wall drag move
nice
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>>4911096
>Defend, see just how much of his overwhelming power your Energy Body can actually withstand over sustained hits
And with this, we can also learn about one of Primal's greatest strengths.
All that fucking stamina.
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>>4911096
>>Defend, see just how much of his overwhelming power your Energy Body can actually withstand over sustained hits
Time to figure out how insane the longevity of Energy Body + Berserker is.
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>>4911096
>Defend, see just how much of his overwhelming power your Energy Body can actually withstand over sustained hits
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Rolled 9, 35, 84, 100 = 228 (4d100)

>>4911099
>>4911121
>>4911128
>>4911143
Defend, see just how much of his overwhelming power your Energy Body can actually withstand over sustained hits wins. Roll me a 4d100
First DC: 55
Second DC: ??
Third DC: 60
Fourth DC: ??
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Rolled 41, 19, 5, 82 = 147 (4d100)

>>4911149
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Rolled 9, 40, 72, 72 = 193 (4d100)

>>4911149
I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE
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Rolled 79, 3, 91, 99 = 272 (4d100)

>>4911149
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>>4911153
>>4911151
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>>4911150
>>4911151
>>4911153 (You)
>79,40,91,99
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>>4911150
>>4911151
>>4911153
79/100, 40/100, 91/100, 99/100. Success, success, success, and close but mitigated failure. Vegeta got a crit on that roll. Writing.
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>>4902025
>(a 99 or paired rolls may net you an extra bonus)
And we got a 99.
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>>4911159
>Vegeta got a crit on that roll.
FINALLY! A WORTHY OPPONENT!
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>>4911162
>FINALLY! A WORTHY OPPONENT!
Entire planet will feel that clash. Kind Cold's long range power detectors will sense this.
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>>4911160
Our 99 vs. Vegeta's 100.
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>>4911177
I'm pretty sure Cold's long range detectors pick up every time Karn goes Berserker, much less him going Ascended and Geets going Primal.
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>>4911203
This fight is so good.
>>4911219
True, but now there is Primal Vegeta nearby, so it's much more interesting. If King Cold is near and watching what his detectors are picking up I think he will find this interesting.

I'm glad Vox records all of this.
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Apologies this took so long. Anyways:

>>4911096
“That’s a lot of talk, my king.” you say, raising both arms up in front of you defensively. “So why don’t you come over here and back it up?”

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mLe9KRUDtT4

“Bring it!” he replies, immediately closing the distance and firing off five lighting-fast left jabs at your face. You take the hits on your energy-sheathed arms, barely feeling his strikes through your energy. “HRRRYAAAAA!!”

Vegeta follows up his lefts with a right hook then left uppercut that leads to a left elbow then turning right kick into spinning back left kick. Your shielded arms take the brunt of his hits, a little bit of the force getting through as Vegeta pummels your defenses with more than a hundred powerful strikes. Yet despite this you guard against his assault easily, his blows far easier to withstand. But as he continues relentlessly pounding against your guarding energy, you begin to feel his hits more and more.

“Come on, fight back!” Vegeta shouts, relentlessly striking your upraised arms over and over again. “You’re just gonna sit there and take it?!”
“I’m just testing my defenses, and seeing how well it holds up.” you reply, then with a smirk deflect his next straight right with your left forearm while swinging for his head with your right. “HAAAAA!!”
“SHI-!!” Vegeta shouts, narrowly bringing his own left forearm up just in time to intercept your strike. Your strike knocks him back off of you, you taking full advantage of the opening to cross your arms and focus your ki. You pour more of your ki into your Energy Body, the dull gleam of your beaten-down aura returning to its full emerald glow. Looking up you see Vegeta just staring at you, clearly more than a little shocked. “Seriously? You can restore it that quickly?”

“Of course. It’s just fueled by my own energy after all.” you reply, retaking your defensive stance. “Now, don’t tell me that’s all you’ve got?”
“No way.” he replies, crossing his arms and gathering his ki. You watch as he then pulls his arms back, fists sheathed in his golden energy. “Now, let’s go again!”
“Bring it on!” you reply, bracing yourself. And Vegeta doesn’t hesitate, immediately blitzing forward and slamming his fist into your crossed arms.

BOOM

His Ki Fist explodes against your hardened aura, the blast burning into and scorching your own energy. While your Energy Body still holds, this attack did far more to your shield than his bare fists. Yet before you can focus and allow your Energy Body to reform he swings again, fist striking the exact same spot.

BOOM
cont
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>>4911328
“Tch!” you exhale, his energy scorching your forearms through your shields. And once again, before you can focus and recharge your Energy Body, he swings his right again. You see it an instant before his fist strikes, Vegeta already having recharged his Ki Fists. You can’t do anything but brace yourself, his strikes exploding against your guard over and over again.
“HRRRAAAAAA!!!” Vegeta roars, as again his ki fist slams into your guard. This time his strike explodes against your arms, scorching you and burning right through what was left of your Energy Body.

“GAAAAH!!” you cry out, his strike breaking through your defenses and sending you flying. Vegeta seizes his chance and explodes forward, closing the distance and unleashing another ki-clad strike right into your jaw. The explosion blasts you straight down, smashing you down facefirst into the ground. Getting your arms underneath you, you push yourself back upright as Vegeta lands before you.
“Looks like that defense of yours does have limits after all.” he replies, again reactivating his Ki Fists and taking his stance.

What now?
>Reactivate your Energy Body, and go back on the attack. Power through his hits and force him to defend
>Reactivate your Energy Body and go back on the defense. Try to toughen it up even further so his strikes can’t break through
>Leave your Energy Body off, keep your distance and use your ki attacks
>Put up a weak Energy Body and bait him in, then grab and surprise him with the Grinder
>Other(write in)
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>>4911329
>Reactivate your Energy Body, and go back on the attack. Power through his hits and force him to defend
I would go for the Grinder, but I think we learned our lesson about grappling with people noticeably stronger than use the last time we fought Demigra
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>>4911329
>Reactivate your Energy Body, and go back on the attack. Power through his hits and force him to defend
First time trying the new captcha
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>>4911329
>>Reactivate your Energy Body, and go back on the attack. Power through his hits and force him to defend
>>4911334
to be fair that might have played out differently if we had energy body up when he tried to crush us
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>>4911339
>to be fair that might have played out differently if we had energy body up when he tried to crush us
Possibly. One idea I had for situations like that is being able to activate our Unmovable Energy Body instantly.
Whether or not keeping the regular version of the technique up as a passive ability would make that possible is up for debate.
At the very least, I think it would give us a chance to tank damage from hits we can see, but can't avoid.
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>>4911329
>>Reactivate your Energy Body, and go back on the attack. Power through his hits and force him to defend

>>4911339
Anon, we can't do Energy Body with the Grinder. It blocks us from shooting out our Ki, including Explosive Wave.
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>>4911329
>>Reactivate your Energy Body and go back on the defense. Try to toughen it up even further so his strikes can’t break through
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Rolled 41, 58, 89 = 188 (3d100)

>>4911334
>>4911338
>>4911339
>>4911343
>>4911345
Reactivate your Energy Body, and go back on the attack. Power through his hits and force him to defend wins. Roll me another 4d100.
1st DC: 30
2nd DC: 50
3rd DC: ??
4th DC: 40
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Rolled 37, 74, 67, 64 = 242 (4d100)

>>4911357
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Rolled 75, 21, 96, 76 = 268 (4d100)

>>4911357
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAART!
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Rolled 57, 11, 23, 9 = 100 (4d100)

>>4911357
I wonder when Karn and Vegeta are gonna notice the crowd they're drawing
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>>4911358
>>4911361
>75,74,96,76
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>>4911358
>>4911361
>>4911362
75/100, 74/100, 96/100, 76/100. Four success, most impressive. Writing.
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>>4911014
This one is a whole new level.

You must really hate monke, Vorechad.
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>>4911072
Based, please do.

>>4911077
What he just wrote seems to exemplify that, literally.
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>>4911329
“Well, it’s not supposed to last forever.” you reply, retaking your own stance. “And I’m not one to stay blocking forever.”
“We’ll see about that!” he replies, and the two of you both blitz forward right towards each other. “HAAAAAAA!!”
“HRRRRYAAAA!!” you roar, again meeting his fist with your own. Vegeta’s Ki Punch explodes, burning into your Energy Body but not enough to stop your charge. The shield still absorbs enough of his swing’s momentum to allow you to charge forward, driving your punch through his! “RRRRAAAAAAAAA!!”

“WHAT?!” he shouts in surprise as you keep charging, Vegeta switching to a Su Ma clockwise spin outside your strike to evade you. But he’s not just running away, Vegeta twisting into a left straight into your jaw. Thanks to your Energy Body, however, you barely feel it. Stopping your strike you again turn it into a devastating elbow strike, but this time Vegeta’s back isn’t to you and he sees it coming. Exhaling he flips his body backwards, narrowly avoiding your blow and surprisingly strikes to again, this time with a right knee to the jaw.

“Tch!” you exhale, as even through your Energy Body you feel that hit. However, he was too slow to pull away, and with your left hand you grab him by the ankle. “Gotcha.”
“SHI-!!” he shouts, you immediately spinning him around overhead by his ankle one, two, three times before slamming him down on the ground. “GYAAAAH!!”
“HRRRRYAAAAAAA!!” you roar, flipping around and slamming him down again. Over and over you smash him down, but on the fourth impact Vegeta retaliates. You lift him overhead, ready to smash him again, when Vegeta throws his hands together right in your face.

“FINAL FLAAAAAASH!!!” King Vegeta bellows. You bring your right arm up between his hands and your face, just in time to shield your face from his explosive golden wave of energy. His ki flows forth like a torrent, but despite his energy burning right through your Energy Body and scorching you, you hold firm. Your grip on his ankle is like iron, keeping you from getting blasted back away from him. And after more than a dozen seconds of feeling his energy burning against you, his attack finally ends. Lowering your arm, you see the sudden fear in Vegeta’s eyes that you’re not only still standing, but clearly still able to fight. “N-No way!”
cont
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>>4911427
“That one hurt.” you say, with a smirk, jerking him by the foot towards you as you twist, slamming your right fist square into his skull while releasing him with your left. “GRRAAAAAAA!!”

Your punch crashes into his face, you slamming him face-first down into the ground with the full power of your arms, hips, and back. Your punch slams him into the ground with so much force that the shockwave kicks you up into the air, blasting you up and away from the young king. Flipping back several times you finally force yourself to a stop, looking down at the aftermath of your attack. Inside the wide crater is another hole, but this one’s headed straight down instead of forming another crater.

“Haaa, haaaa.” you pant, wiping your forehead with the back of your hand only to pull it away surprisingly bloody. “That was one hell of an attack.”
“Dammit. Haaah. I left myself wide open there.” Vegeta says, rising back up out of the hole to float level with you. You see his chest heaving as well, clearly wearing down. But he’s not quite done yet. “Can’t believe you, haah, could take that attack head-on and not fall. I put most of my power into that blast.”
“You should know I won’t go down from a single hit, no matter how powerful it is!” you reply, feigning confidence as you retake your stance. He does as well, arms trembling a bit as he does. Looks like both of you are near your limits.

What do you do?
>Reactivate your Energy Body, and go back on the attack. Power through his hits and force him to defend
>Reactivate your Energy Body and go back on the defense. Try to toughen it up even further so his strikes can’t break through
>Leave your Energy Body off, keep your distance and use your ki attacks
>Put up a weak Energy Body and bait him in, then grab and surprise him with the Grinder
>Other(write in)
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>>4911429
>Weave a special Energy Body with thick coverage on the arms and hands, and go on the offense, using the Energy Body and raw power to bust through Vegeta's defences
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>>4911429
>Put up a weak Energy Body and bait him in, then Afterimage behind him and launch a flurry Ki Punches
If we switch up now, we can catch him completely off-guard.
Also kudos to Vegeta for reminding me about another one of our old techniques.
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>>4911429
>Put up a weak Energy Body and bait him in, then grab and surprise him with the Grinder
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>>4911429
>Reactivate your Energy Body, and go back on the attack. Power through his hits and force him to defend
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>>4911429
>>Put up a weak Energy Body and bait him in, then grab and surprise him with the Grinder
I like the sound of this one now, he knows we have to be tired, too, so the trick with the weak defense should hopefully be more convincing
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>>4911429
>>>Put up a weak Energy Body and bait him in, then grab and surprise him with the Grinder
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Also, I had a thought. Stands are immune to 'standard' Ki attacks, right? So, next time we fight an enemy we don't mind potentially killing, I think we should try using DDF on a Ki attack, and see if turning the life energy fired off in the attack on itself blows it up, makes it disappear, or somehow harms the user. Or who knows, maybe it's none of the above. But, if it does turn out to be a good Ki-attack counter, it'd certainly compliment Energy Body well.
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>>4911429
>>Reactivate your Energy Body, and go back on the attack. Power through his hits and force him to defend
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>>4911448
Interesting idea you have anon. I curious if it can be done.

Maybe it would be like this:
>Enemy's massive planet destroying Ki ball drops
>Karn uses Divine Dragon Force's attack that turns Ki against the one to who it belongs
>Enemy big Ki ball starts to disappear from the point of contact with DDF.
>Till all of it evaporates kind of as if it got hit by Hakai.
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Rolled 71, 100, 43 = 214 (3d100)

>>4911460
Divine Dragon Force has to pierce through an energy to turn it against the body containing it. Anyways:
>>4911433
>>4911436
>>4911437
>>4911441
>>4911443
>>4911445
>>4911452
Put up a weak Energy Body and bait him in, then grab and surprise him with the Grinder wins it. Roll me a 3d100 then.
First DC: 30
Second DC: ??
Third DC: 50
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Rolled 23, 42, 58 = 123 (3d100)

>>4911464
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Rolled 35, 18, 9 = 62 (3d100)

>>4911464
>vegeta comes out with another crit after we parry his first one
oh fuck off
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Rolled 22, 78, 85 = 185 (3d100)

>>4911464
Holy fuck Vegeta, CALM THE FUCK DOW
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Rolled 38, 98, 60 = 196 (3d100)

>>4911464
it's time young Geets to understand why shit across various timelines is scared shitless of us.
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>>4911464
I JUST NOTICED THE CRIT.
ATTA-FUCKING-BOY VEGETA!
NO JOBBERS IN THIS TIMELINE!
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>>4911465
>>4911466
>>4911467
35/100, 78/100, 85/100. Two successes, Vegeta’s clearly giving it his all. Writing.
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>>4911464
>>4911474
Holy Fucking SHIT, *Vegeta!* That's your Second Crit for this Fight, are you actually serious?!
And you actually Fully beat us with that one too, though we got the other two rolls passed, but still, you are NOT going down without a HELL of a fight, showing off exactly why YOU are King, despite your age!
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>>4911474
I'm proud of our almost-not-quite-adopted son. He's come a long way.
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Sorry this one is taking so long, wasn’t expecting the second crit from Vegeta. Will hopefully be finished in ~20 minutes
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>>4911570
>Vegeta please calm down, the QM's thumbs can only type so fast
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>>4911429
But maybe you can use this to your advantage. Your body seems to be on it’s last legs, but you’re not finished yet. And with your energy left, you can still go for a single, powerful energy attack. Forming an idea you cross your arms, again forming your Energy Body, but this time barely add any energy of your energy into it. Your emerald ki dully shines out around you, Vegeta smirking as he sees it.

“I’m ending this, right now!” he shouts, once more gathering his ki into both fists. “It’s over! HAAAAAA!!”

Once more King Vegeta charges your way, you again bringing your arms up to defend yourself. Again his right fist slams against your crossed arms, the blast ripping your frail Energy Body to shreds and scorching your arms further. Then through the blast, suddenly you see his left foot out of the corner of your eye. Before you can react his spinning kick takes you in the right side of your head, knocking you down on all fours. You would have fallen flat to the ground, but managed to catch yourself just in time.

“HAAAAA!!” Vegeta roars, you seeing his boot headed right towards your face!
“Shit!” you think to yourself, immediately rolling to your left trying to avoid getting kicked right the head. You roll fully over twice, narrowly dodging him as he stomps the ground you’d been on then leap back away.
“No escape!” Vegeta shouts, and much to your surprise catches you by the left ankle this time!
“What!?” you shout, caught by complete surprise. Vegeta doesn’t waste any time, and much as you’d done to him earlier hauls you close by your foot. His left fist, still coated in explosive energy crashes against your jaw and detonates.

KABOOOOOOM

Everything goes dark for a moment after his energy explodes, the next thing you see is Vegeta standing, panting heavily from where he’d sent you flying. Something behind you shatters, and you find yourself falling. But you’re not done yet, orienting yourself to land on your feet.

“N-No way.” Vegeta says, taking an uncertain step back. “I put everything I had left into that attack.”
“So are you telling me you give up?” you ask him, taking a staggering step forward, and then another. You see him stiffen at this, and despite clearly being exhausted stands tall.
“I won’t give up!” he says, and starts sprinting towards you. He rushes in, swinging with a heavy, wild right straight for your head. Then suddenly, you feel it. As he swings your upper body moves entirely on its own, twisting aside and narrowly dodging his strike. “What?!”
“Gotcha!” you shout, regaining control of your body as soon as you have the thought and grab him with a bear hug. You’re ending this fight!
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>>4911574
“Dammit, not like th-!” he says, you roaring and unleashing everything you’ve got left.
“HRRRAAAAAAAAA!!”

Everything vanishes inside the blast of your energy, you burning through everything you have left. Your arms and legs go numb, and as the blast ends feel yourself dropping Vegeta and falling down to your hands and knees. Your entire body sags with exhaustion arms trembling and struggling to keep your face off the ground. Someone’s calling out, but you simply don’t have the strength to rise or answer. A few seconds later you feel strong, familiar hands grab onto you, turning and seeing your wife’s concerned face.

“Karn, are you okay?” she asks while virtually picking you up off the ground, you giving her a shaky thumb’s up. She’s taller than usual, you realizing that you’re no longer in your transformed state. And looking down, see that King Vegeta’s out cold, also having reverted as well. He’s certainly come a long way from the arrogant, petulant child he used to be.
“I’m fine.” you say, Galick and Nappa coming down into the crater as well. Nappa scoops up the young king in his giant arms, the two looking at you with odd expressions.

“Damn Karn, that was a hell of a fight!” Leyas shouts, your longtime friend and his sister Sarada both dropping down into the crater as well. They both look rather worse for wear, as if they’d been sparring against each other all day.
“I told you that Vegeta wouldn’t win!” Sarada taunts her brother teasingly, “gently” slugging him on the shoulder.
“No way. No offense, but Vegeta was at least twice as strong as you were.” Leyas says.
“C’mon, you really thought I’d lose?” you ask him jokingly as Nappa and Galick fly off, doubtlessly towards the city. “And speak for yourselves, you two look at least as rough as I probably do right now.”
“As if.” Sarada taunts. “We were fighting with Bardock, Vegeta and the others, each other as Golden Oozaru. Or our cooler white Super Saiyan Oozaru forms. But Vegeta was the only one of us who went Primal, thanks to Ubo and Raven’s help.”

“Wait, what?” you ask, surprised. But before you can question it further, another familiar voice shouts down from above.

“Go Triumph!!”

>Roll me a 1d18000+12000


Thanks to @arantking for this excellent piece!
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Rolled 4058 + 12000 (1d18000 + 12000)

>>4911576
Everybody say "Thank you." to Vegeta and Caulifla for the gains.
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Rolled 8603 + 12000 (1d18000 + 12000)

>>4911576

God Hands Baby.
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Rolled 14641 + 12000 (1d18000 + 12000)

>>4911576
Dang, he got kachidazed. Also Sarada's so hot god damn
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Rolled 5902 + 12000 (1d18000 + 12000)

>>4911576
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>>4911588
nice
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>>4911577
>>4911581
>>4911588
26641/30000. Very impressive indeed, new powerlevel is....


To be revealed later. Writing
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>>4911593
30000? Are you starting to cut zeroes there for convenience's sake or are we running out of Zenkais?
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>>4911607
I’m surprised we haven’t run out of Zenkais yet
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>>4911576
You look up, and seeing Caulifla’s Stand Triumph flying down towards you. It stops by you and your wife, Meloka oblivious to it’s presence as her healing Stand begins shedding it’s tears. You feel the rush of it’s healing flowing through your veins like pouring cool water over your head after an intense workout. As you revel in the sensation of your wounds healing, Caulifla lands down beside her Stand. But she’s holding an unfamiliar weapon in her hands taller than she is, a golden-hafted spear with a rather large crossguard.

“Wow, you an’ Vegeta really went at it, huh?” she asks you, as Triumph finishes healing you and she recalls her Stand. “And here I thought Chaya an’ Broly goin’ at it was gonna be the best fight I saw today.”
“Wait, they were fighting on the ship?” Meloka asks, voice filled with sudden worry.
“No no, we went back outside for that.” she says, no doubt picking up on her mother’s sudden intensity. “They were goin’ at it from just a few minutes before Vegeta transformed, until he and Daddy started fighting.”

She starts talking about the two oldest kids’ match, but despite your injuries being healed you’re still on the brink of exhaustion. You feel your head begin slumping forward despite your best efforts to keep listening, and everything quickly goes dark. Your dreams are, well different. First you find yourself back in a fight with Trunks, Energy Body blazing around you as he charges. Swinging down his sword gets stuck in your left arm’s energy, grabbing his head and smashing it between your hand and knee. Then everything changes, this time you’re facing the boy again but this time you see every one of his attacks twice. Once before it happens, which you react to and are seemingly uncut by his blade phasing through you. And again, which is the actual attack that you’re already dodging. Despite Trunks’ best efforts you aren’t touched by his actual blade. You realize this is what it would look like if one focused on mastering Foresight to the extent Bane had told you of before. As you have this realization you again dodge Trunks’ blow, you reach out and grab his head in both hands, then twist it around. He falls, dropping to his knees then falling flat.

As this Trunks also perishes, the scenery once again changes. This time you find yourself back at Chilli’s wedding, but this time you’re sensing most of the different Patrollers simultaneously . And with a small effort of will, use your Instant Transmission to appear right behind Trunks’ redheaded woman, crimson aura blazing. Yet before she’s even realized you’re there, thrust your left hand’s ki blade through the back of her skull.
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>>4911649
“HYOKA!!” Trunks roars, godly crimson aura blazing as he dashes at you. Smirking at him you keep focused on the mortal kis, vanishing again via your Instant Transmission. You teleport from Time Patroller to Time Patroller, either shanking them with a ki blade or allowing Divine Dragon Force to erase them with singular strikes. And within a minute the others are all dead, leaving only a furious Trunks facing you. Once more the scenery shifts, or rather everything goes dark. But Trunks is once again trying to end you, yet despite your blindness you can sense everything. You can feel his presence in the sphere of your aura stretching out dozens of yards around you. Even his sword’s movements you can perceive, allowing you to dodge his unseen attacks with ease. Then before you even kill him, the scenery again shifts. But this time, you’re back to being in the familiar void.

“Well now, what did you think of the show?” Mechikabura asks, you turning in the dark void and seeing the elderly Demon God with a smirk on his face. “I know of what you’re considering, and thought you would enjoy seeing the fruits of such endeavors.”

Well? How do you respond to the Demon God?
>I appreciate it, it’ll make my choice easier
>You wouldn’t just show me this without another, ulterior motive. What’s going on?
>Appreciate it, but why are you really here?
>Other(write in)
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>>4911649
Is that the dragonslayer spear that Caulifla has?
Nice.
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>>4911651
>>You wouldn’t just show me this without another, ulterior motive. What’s going on?
You don't drop bye just for a hello and to show us some of our own possible party tricks Mechi.
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>>4911651
>Appreciate it, but why are you really here?
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>>4911651
>>I appreciate it, it’ll make my choice easier
Be polite, he already knows what we are thinking anyways
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>>4911651
>You wouldn’t just show me this without another, ulterior motive. What’s going on?
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>>4911651
>>You wouldn’t just show me this without another, ulterior motive. What’s going on?
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>>4911658
Aw fuck you're right.
>>4911659
>>4911651
Changing to
>I appreciate it, it’ll make my choice easier
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>>4911658
Fair point.

>>4911653
Changing to

>Appreciate it, but why are you really here?
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>>4911651
>>Appreciate it, but why are you really here?


I personally prefer the casual, somewhat polite yet cautious stance.

Sidenote though, there was no mention in the IT vision of us putting our hand to our forehead... GD, did Mechi's idea of that passive's shenanigans actually completely circumvent IT's main weakness, as well as giving us so many targets to choose from to begin with? If so, I may end up voting for it over even Energy Body, my old personal favorite.
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>>4911653
>>4911655
>>4911658
>>4911659
>>4911661
>>4911662
>>4911666
Well, looks like we have a tie. But I believe I can combine them reasonably well enough, so I’ll do that instead of holding for a tiebreaker. Writing.
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>>4911651
“I appreciate it, it’ll make my choice easier.” you say, the Demon God smiling and seeming benevolent. But you know he wouldn’t go this far out of his way just for this. There’s more to this. “But why are you really here?”
“Ohh ho?” he replies, grin turning far more sharklike. “Perceptive, as always. I’m not just here to show you the potential of the abilities you’ve already tested. But to also offer you, how do you say, alternatives. You have discovered several different methods of making yourself stronger, and as you saw yourself, methods of making yourself a threat to beings far stronger than yourself. But there are other paths to power, that may be of interest.”

“I wouldn’t say no to having more options.” you say, the Demon God snapping and conjuring a dark orb in his hand. You look in, seeing yourself facing Trunks again. But this is immediately different than the others. This version of you is in your base form, and seems to be effortlessly dodging Trunks’ sword strikes. Then this version of you closes it’s eyes, and keeps dodging the boy’s attacks effortlessly.
“There’s always the technique of the angels. Ultra Instinct.” the demon says. “One of, it not the single greatest fighting technique known across realty. You’ve shown a surprising affinity for this battle style. Few mortals can ever use such a thing, but should you master it no foe would ever land a hit on you again. But that is a long, difficult journey, and not a technique that would be anywhere close to ready before Beerus arrives on your world.”

“Maybe I’ll impress the Destroyer’s angel enough during that fight, that he’ll teach me that technique after I confront him.” you say, shaking your head. “Learning a fighting technique or style is best done under someone knowledgeable in it, I wouldn’t have learned Djem So or Su Ma without my teachers after all.”
“Yes, you have access to quite the repositories of ancient mortal knowledge.” Mechikabura replies sagely. “But most of it is not quite suited to you. You are a warrior, not a scholar. However, being a warrior, perhaps this will interest you?”

Again the orb’s image shifts, you seeing yourself, King Vegeta, and Meloka all confronting the Destroyer God Beerus. You’re in the Berserker 3 form, long emerald hair flowing. And beside you, Meloka is in the Super Saiyan God form, divine aura blazing and in stark contrast to Vegeta’s golden aura . And as one, the three of you rush forward and attack the god. To your surprise the three of you force him onto the defensive, the Destroyer making sure to block your strikes even if it means he takes hits from the others. Which surprises you, is your form really that much stronger than a Super Saiyan God or Primal Saiyan?
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>>4911744
“Yes, you see it.” Mechikabura says. “Once you attain control of that power, you shall become a far greater force of destruction. And there’s more than one way to attain it.”
“Wait, there is?” you ask, looking up to Mechikabura’s face. “How?”
“I can transform you.” he answers. “With my divine powers, I can force your body to ascend up into it’s next form immediately. I did so with that mad dog Broly, who fell to his rage. Look and see.”

And once again the orb’s image changes, this time showing Mechikabura confronting a raging Super Saiyan 3 Broly standing atop both the Time Patrol’s Hyoka and Trunks, roaring furiously.

“You could prove useful.” Mechikabura says, and holds out a hand. The rampaging Berserker screams in agony, clutching his head and staggering around in pain. You watch as suddenly his tail grows back, sprouting out as crimson fur begins growing out on his upper body. His hair shifts from emerald back to black, the Berserker stomping down on Trunks’ spine hard enough you hear the shattering bones.
“GRRRRAAAAAAA!!!” Broly roars, and suddenly two other fighters appear. Xeno Goku and Trunks, both already in their Primal forms.
“This could be fun.” the orb’s Mechikabura says, Broly roaring and charging at the smaller Saiyans. They meet his charge head on, clashing in a bright flash.
“So, what do you say?” Mechikabura asks you. “Want to achieve that next level of power right now?”

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 paused-
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>>4911745
And that’s it for tonight, everyone having fun so far? Enjoy testing your limits against King Vegeta’s Primal power? Also, I do have to make an announcement/request that needs to be said. Please don’t shitpost about our quest in the /qtg/, or anyone else’s quest. The Fatefags already started trying to start shit here earlier, when they show up just ignore them and don’t start fights. I’m not looking to get involved in any of the sort of board drama I saw over there today.
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>>4911745
>“So, what do you say?” Mechikabura asks you. “Want to achieve that next level of power right now?”
Nah, fuck that, better to achieve it ourself, it's not like we need it right now anyway, and if we REALLY need it any time soon, we can just use the Ritual.
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>>4911753
I didn't assume we had anybody at all advertising the quest in other threads.
Generally DBZ stuff seems pretty insulated around here.
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>>4911753
Chad vs virgin energy right here. Gotta make sure your boys aren't being unruly faggots.

It was a nice change of pace for Geets to finally get some spotlight. Prove that even though he isn't quite the killer Karn is he can still push him to the brink. It's an honest to goodness feat to fight someone whose life has been primarily life or death combat and bring it that close.
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>>4911760
Yeah, pretty much.
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>>4911745
This... sounds very reckless.
>>4911753
I feel a little bad for Vegeta. But it was pretty fun.
We haven't had any drama in four years, we are not gonna start now. Tho I admit, I stopped caring about the fate quest a while ago and I still go there to read their shitflinging
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>>4911760
Taking what anons have said before, Karn would reject this offer here. In a more dire situation, perhaps his answer would be different.
>>4911761
Less advertising, and trying to start fights with the Fate quest. I’m assuming was the same nasty fetish shitposter from earlier, only someone that autistic would go to those sort of lengths to stir shit.
>>4911769
>Chad vs virgin
Good enough excuse to post this. Anyways, I don’t THINK it’s any of us doing this, but if it is I want you to stop.
And yes, I enjoyed showing his progress. Vegeta’s not a kid anymore, he’s grown into a powerful warrior.
>>4911772
It is an option. Whether or not that’s a trap option is to be seen.
Why? He wanted your best, and you gave him absolutely EVERYTHING. He’d be really upset if you held back, and let him win.
Yes. I’m not here to argue with randos, we have dozens of other boards for that. And whoever that shitposter was had dozens of posts deleted in Each of the Fate and /qtg/ threads, and who knows how many in others? That faggot’s a dedicated menace, I’ll give them that.
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>>4911777
>that image
Begging for an update based on recent events tbqh.
I'll probably make it Virgin SKoT vs Chad Karn (Proud Father)
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>>4911791
>Virgin SKoT
-has no friends or family
-surrounded by incompetent subordinates
-can't cook for shit
-autistic shitfits for things that don't go her way
-gets shit on by a bird all the time
-is pedobait by choice because otherwise people wouldn't trust her skeezy ass
-takes an apprentice because she's lazy as fuck and wants to shirk her duties

>THE CHAD KARN
-has two wives that are both loved to high heaven and a surprisingly functional family heritages considered
-the beefiest beefcake this side of reality, no shame in his appearance
-trains people knowing that they may never be able to replace him but gives it 100% to try and make it so they can
-a real cool cat who won't fuck with you if you don't fuck with him
-cooks simple, filling, and extremely edible foods
-literally killed one of the most powerful beings in existence without some dumb plot contrivance on his side
-most of his best friends could kick his ass and none of the people around him are chumps

My mans Karn has the weight of his entire species on his back and he goes out of his way to make sure they can survive even without him. He truly is the chaddest of them all.
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>>4911791
Maybe make a more contemporary meme
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>>4911753
>that wall of text followed by a dozen 1 post ID’s in /qtg/
Lmao definite samefag. Probably an anon that got assmad over something in this quest. There’s been plenty of those over the years.
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Could someone drop a link to what GD's talkin' about, with the Fatefags? I don't use this site for anything but this quest, lol, so I have no real clue what y'all are talking about.
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>>4911827
Why not both?
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>>4911865
Don't bother, you won't find anything. The board cycles through dramas that then forgets every few months, we just got unlucky this time.
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>>4911865
Half the posts about it in the qtg are deleted so it’s kinda hard to put together what happened, but apparently someone in the Fate Quest who also participates here was starting shit and so some Fatefags got mad and are shitflinging in the qtg. Expect this to blow over in the next couple days.
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>>4911883
See, this type of shit is why I don't browse threads on this board that aren't actually quests.
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>>4910232
>You did see Aku recently, when you went down into the ruins before Chilli’s wedding.
True. Putting him on a list under "Long time not seen" was a bit of a stretch. However I did this because while seeing him that day was very nice, he did depart nearly instantly after he appeared.

Aku is immortal, there are very few things that can actually harm him. Yet he was worried as if an unavoidable end of the world was just announced. Then vanished in haste to possibly prepare his anti doomsday shelter. This situation makes me wonder, but Aku did not explain it further, leaving us with questions that we may try to figure out ourselves.

Beside all that it would be nice to see him again.
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>>4910232
>Yes, Zamasu will be quite upset.
There is a time before Zamasu decides to make his Zero Mortals Plan happen. When he was still undecided and had doubts. That would be still right now. I know it probably has near zero chance of happening, but if he met some alright mortal(s) maybe he would not decide to make this plan happen. Maybe Caulifa? Could she make him not hate mortals?
>>4911574
That was a great fight.
>>4911576
Sarada's art is awesome.
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>>4911651
> thought you would enjoy seeing the fruits of such endeavors.
Very nice presentation.
>>4911753
>And that’s it for tonight, everyone having fun so far?
Yes.
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>>4911745
>“Want to achieve that next level of power right now?”
Very tempting, but what about the details? It depends on what he exactly offers.

Karn will become Berserker 3 right now, but:
> will he become an uncontrollable raging juggernaut?
>Will we have to roll 90+ rolls not kill family and friends in the next few seconds?
>Will Mechikabura's transformation grant us also the full control over it?
Or at least some degree manageable control where one little missed roll or a mistake will not end up in a disaster where Karn butchers his allies?

>Is this transformation a one-time thing and we will not be able to attain it again easily but struggle like Vegeta with Primal?
>Or will Mechi's transformation grant us ability to transform into Berserker 3 at will?

I'm curious if it will be any different than just doing Super Saiyan God ritual right now which we can literally do at any moment even now. Those details are important I would want to know more about Mechi's offer instead deciding blindly.

I'm not certain how much we can trust Mechi. What if he installs during this some Trojan Horse type of switch that will allow him to disable our Berserker 3 and higher transformations anytime he wants. Some kind of safety precaution against Karn like when he did with DDF to make it unable to erase him.
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>>4911973
These are useful, yes, but ultimately what he offers us we WILL achieve on our own, years down the line. He's just fucking with time here. Let's still go for Energy Body
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>>4911777
The Anon the Fate dudes are calling a shitposter here, off the false claim of ban evasion and breaking /qst/ rule 2, which was a one day ban for all their claiming I was a rampant shitposter, which you should not apologize for. GD, those claims of my shitposting in QTG was me responding to an Anon about what the quest here was like, including a rundown on what the cliffnotes start was, then me giving a list of crossovers the quest has here. Why the other Anon in question was reported and his half of the conversation deleted, I have no idea, but the single post IDs that popped up after that are proxy sameposts from an Anon in the Fate thread by name of Sakurautist, raging on the quest as I answered questions about it too an Anon. The reason for this autisic hate is because I was calling out this Anon for his rampant samefagging, which I can prove, and his spite towards me for not being a hardcore Fate fan that knows every single thing about the franchise, and not "learning" anything from subpar wikis or not bowing to his superior IQ, to find out information he routinely refuses to divulge unless it benefits in getting support for his votes, or at least other namefags. And his petulant spite towards me, which in context was a writein vote that ended in a dead end for retarded reasons, and other Anons that don't namefag playing the Paradox quest, also me calling him a faggot, which I can prove. The majority of the posts you see listed as deleted, except for the second to bottom one on the list, and the vote I had with that WI-FI address that supported a vote further up as my phone Data was back too functioning and I originally stopped using it to avoid calls of samefagging, not sure why it wasn't blanket deleted to, guess they were just too excited reporting to get it. Starting from the top of that list, me arguing with Sakurautist about him being an insufferable faggot, criticizing the interpretation of "Meta" Quest in the quest just being a way to show off their trivia before dropping the argument to ignore Sakurautist, and then having regular on topic conversations with other posters about the final boss fight, and the dangers she represents to our characters. The last largest chunk of those deleted posts was me starting a conversation with an Anon that was apparently hungry and finding out what he had on hand to look up a recipe to feed himself, and linking some Youtube videos for that purpose, another Anon was as well, which was deleted. The obsession in QTG is because when I first introduced myself as a new player, I shilled the quest here. Once. And then took up a derogatory name of Saiyannigger without namefagging to continue conversations after my write-in winning a vote and reaching a bad end because of it, this alone is why the hate for this quest is here, because that is all he brings up when I try to put in input, or ask questions in quest. I can prove this as well. Recently deleted posts not withstanding.
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>>4911837
The reason is an Anon getting assmad. but its even dumber than not liking this quest, its hating it out of spite because I made fun of a psycho who hates it because I tangentially enjoy this quest, whom unironically has autist in his name, and had the gall to not grovel kiss his ass. The shitposting we got here isn't even because of this quest, but pure undiluted autism. On a level that if I didn't claim who I was would go on and call other people that disagree me.
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By the way, if my posts randomly disappear, it looks like one of the Fate players taking the side of the autist in question either became a Janitor or a mod, and are currently gloating in the Fate thread. I say this because the psychos in question can and will lurk to report me playing, or even responding in quest threads, as recently demonstrated. However while I was checking other threads I noticed that it wasn't a full post purge like a proper ban, but targeted. Where they knew I was based on calling out Autist. Whom is currently very triggered in QTG, giving out of context "quotes".
>Error: You seem to have mistyped the CAPTCHA. Please try again.
No I didn't you broken piece of shit.
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>>4911745
Now back to regular posting.
>“So, what do you say?” Mechikabura asks you. “Want to achieve that next level of power right now?”
Biggest trap option I have ever seen.
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>>4911777
Oh. And checked, because that is some good gets, and no one else checked.
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>>4911576
The money for that art was well spent, how the hell is she related to Layas? And good for Vegeta, he's really keeping to his schedule to surpass Karn.
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>>4912065
Leyas
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I was talking about the drama between quests, who was the faggot that reported me?
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I'm just going to leave this here
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>>4912073
I'm more impressed you don't bother making art in Paradox. Spite is a great motivator.
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>>4912076
What the fuck is Paradox?
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>>4912073
Kek.
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>>4912072
It was me, wanna fight about it? I'll fuck you right in the ass.
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>>4911745
Mechikabura simply offering you such might, and proving it on another Legendary Super Saiyan like yourself shows that he means it. But something about his offer feels off. You take a “step”back, or as well as you can judge in this void anyways, and really ponder his proposal. But after only a few seconds of thought, you’ve decided on your answer.

“No. Not like this.” you say, Mechikabura’s face an unreadable mask. “I’ll achieve this power myself, and do it my own way.”
“Are you sure?” the Demon God asks, an odd note to his voice as his face doesn’t change.
“Yeah, I’m sure.” you reply. “Not saying you would try and hurt them, but without knowing where I am I could really hurt my people while mindlessly raging. Plus, something like that doesn’t come for free.”

As you say this, the mask he’d been wearing so calmly begins to fracture and crack. You see the ghost of a smile on his face as you continue speaking.

“Cutting corners on building up your power only leaves yourself weaker.” you continue. “Without mastering the weaker forms, your body isn’t anywhere near as ready to handle stronger ones as it needs to be. So thanks, but no thanks. I’ll achieve that power in my own way, on my terms.”
“And that. Is the correct answer.” Mechikabura says, clapping his hands slowly while his staff remains “standing” where he’d left it before him. “Should you have been foolish enough to accept such a proposition, you would have proven yourself unworthy of being an ally. You would be little more than a tool to wield against Chronoa, and discarded once your usefulness wore off. But you have proven once more to be more than a tool, and I am glad to call you my ally.”

At this he holds out his right hand, you reaching out with yours as well. And instead of taking your t forearm as a fellow Saiyan would, or even your hand in his as most of the universe does, he grabs your hand in both of his own. The seal Towa’d placed on the back of your hand suddenly feels like it’s burning, you wincing at the sensation. But after a moment it’s over, the elder Demon God releasing you with a smirk.

“A little something to get you through what’s coming.” Mechikabura says, as the dark void around you both begins to crack. “Keep your eyes open, Karn. Enemies are everywhere.”

And with that your eyes open. You find yourself back in your own bed, family piled in around you and sleeping as well. Looking at your hand, you see the demonic seal glowing with demonic energy, but it quickly fades after a second or so. Which leaves you with one question:

What now?
cont
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>>4912208
Well? What do you do?
>Stay here in bed, simply enjoying this time just being around your family.
>Sneak out of bed, and get started on your morning training
>Sneak out of bed, and see who’s awake at this hour
>Stay here, telepathically reach out to Chilli and see how things are going over there
>Other(write in)
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>>4912208
>Sneak out of bed, and get started on your morning training
Early bird and all that.
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>>4912212
>>Sneak out of bed, and see who’s awake at this hour
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>>4912208
Oh god damnit, what is coming now?
>>4912212
>Stay here, telepathically reach out to Chilli and see how things are going over there
>Sneak out of bed, and see who’s awake at this hour
We can tell Meloka the bad news when she gets up and has breakfast first.
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>>4912220
read the OP post
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>>4912078
He's referring to the currently-running Fate qst, which is widely either popular or reviled.
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>>4912221
Write in's count.
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>>4912225
>Pick ONE option when voting(unless otherwise noted)
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>>4912028
>argues with mod
>gets targeted ban
I’m not sure what you were expecting. I encourage people to play quests they enjoy, but please don’t go dragging our quest into others. I’d appreciate it.
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>>4912231
Didn't even know he was a mod, and from the looks of it guy is a Janitor. I wasn't dragging this quest into. The guy I've been arguing with in a screaming match has autist in his name. And is obsessed.
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>>4912231
Also the one I was arguing with wasn't a mod or Janitor, he was another player.
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Leaving the vote open another ten minutes
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>>4912212
>>4912216
>Sneak out of bed, and see who’s awake at this hour
Changing to this
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>>4912212
Switching>>4912220
>Sneak out of bed, and see who’s awake at this hour
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>>4912212
>Sneak out of bed, and see who’s awake at this hour
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Rolled 6 (1d8)

>>4912216
>>4912219
>>4912220
>>4912257
>>4912261
>>4912263
Sneak out of bed, and see who’s awake at this hour wins it. Roll me a 2d100.
First DC: 25
Second DC: 40
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Rolled 37, 74 = 111 (2d100)

>>4912276
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Rolled 98, 12 = 110 (2d100)

>>4912276
Dice
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>>4912279
I wonder if saying dice gods would improve my rolls?
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Rolled 70, 99 = 169 (2d100)

>>4912276
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>>4912285
>>4912279
And it's good!
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>>4912277
>>4912279
>>4912285
98/100, 99/100. Gone like the wind, writing.
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>>4912212
As much as you’d enjoy simply laying around surrounded by your family, the words that Mechikabura left you with are still ringing in your head. You aren’t exactly sure what he’d done to the demonic seal Towa’d placed upon you either, but from what he said and implied, you got the impression that he strengthened or improved it somehow. And that there is a threat imminent. No rest for the strongest, when they have people to protect. So you focus, gently grabbing ahold of each of your children with your telekinesis and lift them off of you. While they hang suspended in midair you slip out the bottom of the bed, gently setting them all back down. Looking yourself over you find that you had in fact been undressed and cleaned up after the battle. You don’t remember that, but as exhausted as you were that doesn’t surprise you. King Vegeta has come a long way, and you’re certainly proud of his growth.

“Now, let’s see who’s up.” you think to yourself, quickly getting dressed in one of your training suits and making sure to put the Soulstone inside the inside pocket of your boot before opening your room’s door, and slipping out. The inside of your old ship is quiet, only the small emergency lights on to conserve power while everyone else sleeps. Well, almost everyone. As you stand outside your room’s doors, suddenly the opposite doors open, revealing a small blonde girl.
“Shi-!” she seethes, dropping a bag and leveling her rifle at you, nearly pulling the trigger before realizing it’s just you and lowering it. “Oh, sorry.”
“Morning, Tanya.” you answer, voice just raised above a whisper. “What’re you doing up so early?”
“Up so late.” she corrects, switching her grip on the chainsaw rifle to one hand so she can grab her heavy-sounding bag back in the other. “Today’s been a long day. And I have a feeling it’s about to be longer.”

“Why’s that?” you ask, suddenly a bit worried. “What’s wrong?”
“Nothing, yet.” she replies. “But the last time we were the only ones awake, we got attacked. And the time before that too. You being awake at unusual hours usually signals that some sort of disaster’s coming.”

And almost as if on cue, suddenly your instincts ping. You’re being watched. The moment you realize this Tanya sighs out, her expression turning more serious.

“What’s the play, General?” she asks in a whisper.

Well?
>Go back to back, hopefully one of you will see whatever’s out there before it can close in on you
>Telepathically tell her to act like nothing’s wrong and get off the ship, and to keep the mental link open until then so if she’s attacked you can instantly IT over to her
>Tell her to get back in her room and shut the door, you’ll handle whatever this is yourself
>Tell her to go back into her room, and cover you while you stay here guarding your door
>Other(write in)
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>>4912351
She is the best. He is? Whatever.
>Telepathically tell her to act like nothing’s wrong and ask her out loud if she wants to get breakfast with us. Telepathically waking up Meloka and letting her know about the intruder, and Silver as well. Call on New Salda to boost our ki sense.
It better not be another Lin Qui bot.
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>>4912351
>>Telepathically tell her to act like nothing’s wrong and get off the ship, and to keep the mental link open until then so if she’s attacked you can instantly IT over to her
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>>4912351
>>Go back to back, hopefully one of you will see whatever’s out there before it can close in on you
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>>4912351
> >Telepathically tell her to act like nothing’s wrong and get off the ship, and to keep the mental link open until then so if she’s attacked you can instantly IT over to her
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>>4912361
>>4912367
>>4912376
>>4912377
Telepathically tell her to act like nothing’s wrong and get off the ship, and to keep the mental link open until then so if she’s attacked you can instantly IT over to her wins it. Roll me a single d100.
DC: ??
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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>4912389
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Rolled 75 (1d100)

>>4912389
Dice Gods
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Rolled 87 (1d100)

>>4912389
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>>4912391
>It worked
I'm mad.
>>4912392
Sweet.
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>>4912392
>>4912391
>>4912390
I hope we notice it, whatever it is.
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>>4912394
If the Lin Qui are getting uppity after making the first thing to ever beat our Paranoid sense, we're asking around for the planet they live on.
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>>4912390
>>4912391
>>4912392
87/100, good roll. Writing.
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>>4912351
“Act like nothing’s wrong, and go head out the ship like you’d planned.” you think to her. “Whatever’s here, I have a feeling it’s here for me. So I want you to get out of here.”
“What if this unseen malefactor changes targets to me?” she asks, clearly concerned. “If something’s here to try murdering you, of all people, what the hell chance will I have against it?”
“I’m not wanting you to fight.” you reply telepathically. “But I do want you to stay in telepathic contact with me. That way, if whatever it is does try attacking you, I can use my Instant Transmission to immediately intercept it.”

“Ah yes, I did forget you could do that.” she says telepathically, visibly relaxing. “Very well, I’ll follow your plan. Watch over me.”
“Will do. Keep your eyes open.” you reply, leaning back against your door and folding your arms as she turns and walks down the hall. Focusing your ki sense on the young soldier’s energy, you follow her as she walks down the hall, headed towards the ship’s main entrance. The whole time that feeling of being watched never wavers, and while you sweep your gaze down both sides of the hall, nothing immediately presents itself as a threat. After thirty seconds or so Tanya’s presence has left the ship, the young soldier reaching out again.

“Made it out, nothing seems to be followi-SHIT!!“ Tanya thinks, then her message and mental link to you is suddenly cut off the same instant the feeling of being watched vanishes. Your right hand immediately rises to your forehead, and with your focus already being on Tanya’s ki use your Instant Transmission to appear right by her side. You see Tanya, eyes rolled back in her head and dropping to the ground. Without thinking you reach out and catch her, immediately feeling those watchful eyes on you again.
“Tanya!” you say, the woman blinking then her eyes suddenly open. Except they’re different. Where before her iris’s would be blue, or occasionally golden, now both of her entire eyes, sclera and all are blazing with golden light. The same golden energy blazes from her, the surprising force of it knocking you back. “What the-?”

“YOU!” she shouts, drawing a pistol and firing a burst of energy shots. Not at you, but something behind you. Planting your feet and turning, you see a familiar golden form for a split second before it vanishes, leaving only the Supreme Kai in training: Kars. Well, this can’t be good.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5COgfH-aUSw

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 End-
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>>4912491
Goddamnit Kars, just fucking call ahead next time.
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>>4912491
What the hell did Kars do too Tanya? How many samples has he gotten off us? What is he doing?!
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>>4912491
And that’s it for this weekend, everyone enjoy the run? Ready to see why Kars is here and what is about to go down, as well as get more into your training? All this and more, next time on Saiyan Conqueror Quest!
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>>4912499
He was trying to steal being x.
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>>4912510
But Being X isn't possessing Tanya, unless the reincarnation thing left some divine sparks from it or something in her?
>>4912503
How long has he been in timestop?
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>>4912511
She can see being x sometimes. Kars only needs to see things to yoink them. So he wants to see if he can see him through her eyes.

Come on keep up :^)
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>>4912510
He was clearly trying to cop a feel. Kars is a child groomer, just look at Wamuu! Kidnapped that baby and raised him to be evil!
It's time we put a stop to him before he can become this universe's discord moderator.
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>>4912515
>kars is into little boys
Uh oh, we have sons
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>>4912514
That isn't how that works though, Being X has to be doing his bullshit first, he's not around all the time, and I doubt that thing would show up with Kars around.
>>4912515
>>4912517
I said kill him. No one listened.
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>>4912498
What if he’s not here for you?
>>4912499
Went for the knockout, using his copied Za Warudo’s timestop to ko her. Unfortunately, it didn’t quite stop her. He doesn’t understand what she’s become with that Networked Type 101.
>>4912510
Not quite
>>4912511
Good question.
>>4912515
Not quite.
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>>4912518
That's why Kars put his juice in her eyes bro. It's simple. Now Kars has the bad touch in her vision center giving him REMOTE ACCESS so next time Being Keks stops the time and brags about dumb god shit Kars will see the person being piloted by the wanna be deity and Kars will suck that shit straight into his brain an dbecome a being outside of proper time and space.

Bam. Easy. This is how it works and I know it's what he's doing because I am from the future.
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>>4912524
>Went for the knockout, using his copied Za Warudo’s timestop to ko her. Unfortunately, it didn’t quite stop her. He doesn’t understand what she’s become with that Networked Type 101.
Crazy not German science for the win.
>Good question.
Was he just watching us in our sleep, touring the ship? Did he go into Caulifla's room to inspect her Stand?
>>4912525
Digits like that I can not deny. Kars is an absolute threat that must be purged.
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>>4912524
>What if he’s not here for you?
He could be here to grab a pack of smokes for all I fucking care.
He should at least tell us or Raven whenever he decides to drop by.
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>>4912491
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>>4912525
No, he isn’t necessarily after Being X. But Tanya, with her Type 101 actually, spoilers for the start of episode 160, STOLE divine power
>>4912530
No, as you didn’t sense his gaze until AFTER meeting up with Tanya.
>>4912532
Why? He’s a god, he doesn’t have to answer to mortals.
>>4912535
Nice
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>>4912552
I reject your plotline and substitute my own.
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>>4912552
>Why? He’s a god, he doesn’t have to answer to mortals.
He knows better than to act like Shin and his dumbass friends.
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>>4912552
>Spoiler
Of course he did, why of why, did he steal more of the stuff?
>No, as you didn’t sense his gaze until AFTER meeting up with Tanya.
So he was stalking Tanya then. Still its good to know Karn's body can sense time stop users.
>Why? He’s a god, he doesn’t have to answer to mortals.
Those the exact same words several so called immortals say before they die. Weird.
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>>4912553
Don’t think it works like that.
>>4912557
But does he? He’s been spending a LOT of time in the divine realm. And doesn’t yet know what happened to Chronoa.
>>4912558
That’s what the 101 did. Being X’s plan was for ego death of Tanya, turning the body into a puppet to enact it’s will. But that plan failed, Tanya seizing a chunk of Being X’s power for herself. Which we saw in that particular epilogue.
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>>4912570
How the hell did Kars witness it then? When did he find out, or was it just recently that he noticed when he dropped by to skulk around?
>But does he? He’s been spending a LOT of time in the divine realm.
Fruity parasites.
>And doesn’t yet know what happened to Chronoa.
And can't wait to see that reaction.
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>>4912574
>witness
You’re making a couple assumptions there.
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>>4912583
Does Shin know Being X?
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>>4912570
>Don’t think it works like that.
[insert maniacal_laughter_3.mp8 here]
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Oh boy, this set up is actually asking Kars to get DDF'd, even though i normally don't want to use that unless we run into immortal asshole monsters like the time patrol, this idiot vampire might want to learn about how theres always a bigger fish.
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>>4912617
He knows, he just thinks the fish won't bite hard enough to kill him permanently.
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>>4912503
>And that’s it for this weekend, everyone enjoy the run?
Yes.
>Ready to see why Kars is here and what is about to go down
Yes. I want to know what is going on.
>>4912503
>as well as get more into your training?
Yes.
>>4912570
>But does he? He’s been spending a LOT of time in the divine realm. And doesn’t yet know what happened to Chronoa.
So the surprise is still ahead of him.
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>>4912626
the man should probably learn at some point, but i really don't want to kill him mostly because he potentially could be more useful then shin in the long run and the only one of our friend group who actually wants that job is frieza, and i'd rather have him as Beerus's replacement at the end of the day.
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>>4912682
That's like saying a talking dog could be more useful than Shin, which is a low standard since in the main timeline a dogman is president of the world.
>and the only one of our friend group who actually wants that job is frieza, and i'd rather have him as Beerus's replacement at the end of the day.
That's on the assumption we don't take the Destroyers Mantle. We probably wouldn't anyways, but I don't see Freeza willingly working under Kars.
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>>4912682
>Freeza as the next god of destruction
>not Camali
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>>4912691
The universe couldn't handle the terror, he will be like King Cold, and rule from the shadows. Crazy Hassan treads lightly in this timeline.
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Tanya's "sixth sense" or whatever it is, is quite impressive. She seems to be the only person beside Karn that picks up somehow when not everything is as normal, even though it may seem like nothing is happening. And again her hunch proved to be correct.
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>>4912713
Her ability to sense it is extrodinary, I'm starting to think Being X did a few tweaks to her body before reincarnating, but that should be expected in hindsight given his intentions setting her up in conflicts. Her hunch isn't that extraordinary though, she's been around how long now? It's par for the course at this point, like if their are clouds, then it will probably rain.
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>>4912596
Shin is at least SUPPOSED to know all of his subordinates, as they all report to him. And someone stealing divine power would be something they should certainly report.
>>4912607
I’ve only been supplanted twice, by Mechikabura and Carnival Forever Requiem. You don’t possess their power.
>>4912617
Depends on what he says, and how he handles the news.
>>4912670
Good to see. And you will, soon.
Yes, the surprise is still to be seen.
>>4912682
Freeza doesn’t have the anatomy to be a Kai.
>>4912691
Camali’s retired
>>4912713
She does have several years of experience in life or death war like Karn.
>>4912725
Basic pattern recognition is essential for a Japanese salaryman. Karn up early=something wrong
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>>4912747
>Shin is at least SUPPOSED to know all of his subordinates, as they all report to him. And someone stealing divine power would be something they should certainly report.
Wait does Shin not even know the guy? Girl? Thing?
>Basic pattern recognition is essential for a Japanese salaryman. Karn up early=something wrong
Common sense, the most dangerous kind for a soldier to have.
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>>4912747
Nevermind this>>4912753
>Wait does Shin not even know the guy? Girl? Thing?
I just remember I asked that before.
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>>4912747
>I’ve only been supplanted twice
Don't forget Fu.
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>>4912753
Yes. Which is why the higher ups, once the PTO took over their world, sent Tanya to Dreadzone. She could cause too much trouble in peacetime.
>>4912966
I said supplanted. Fu just kinda shows up
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>>4912983
>Yes. Which is why the higher ups, once the PTO took over their world, sent Tanya to Dreadzone. She could cause too much trouble in peacetime.
>Putting her in arms reach of the most powerful general in the galaxy
>Trying to avoid trouble
That is just rich.
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>>4912983
>I said supplanted. Fu just kinda shows up
Speaking of the young Zoomer, did he catch what went down at the wedding?
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>>4912986
Where she’ll be dealing with other conflicts, far, far away and not causing domestic trouble. Plus giving their people pride that their soldier is a warrior of galactic renown. Yes, that does sound like avoiding trouble for the Fatherland.
>>4912992
>did he catch
Oh, did he! Fu certainly enjoyed many of those fights, especially Karn Jr’s. He knew your son was special from frame one.
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>>4913021
>Fu certainly enjoyed many of those fights, especially Karn Jr’s. He knew your son was special from frame one.
Damn right. Makes me wonder if he's gonna offer him a job in the future.
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>>4913021
>Oh, did he! Fu certainly enjoyed many of those fights, especially Karn Jr’s. He knew your son was special from frame one.
Still doesn't sit well with me that guy just lurking in the background with a camera somewhere.
>Where she’ll be dealing with other conflicts, far, far away and not causing domestic trouble.
That's a fair point, the cataclysm that is being near the Karn Clan isn't on their lawn, so it isn't their problem.
>Plus giving their people pride that their soldier is a warrior of galactic renown. Yes, that does sound like avoiding trouble for the Fatherland.
Well she's second place because we don't compete in our daughters hobby shop, but it is a real accomplishment on her part, plus pulling of the bugs genocide. Did they get the livestream of that?
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>>4913025
Who knows? Fu has his own aims
>>4913036
Between him, SKoT, Mechikabura, Vox, and who knows what else, Karn is certainly under quite a lot of scrutiny.
Bingo. Send the warmonger off to the other end of the universe to go commit not! war crimes there.
I said of galactic renown, not one of the strongest.
Yes. Made Zettor especially glad they sent her away
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>>4913628
>I said of galactic renown, not one of the strongest.
Touché
>Yes. Made Zettor especially glad they sent her away
God I need to see their reaction when Tanya takes moments during the stream to just stare at the camera and smile.
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>>4913628
So if Kars is here for Tanya, I'm gonna assume he's gonna go against Shin's wishes and take her under his wing.
After all, he stole his spark of divinity as well.
Also on the topic of everybody's favorite perfect organism, has Kars figured out how to go Super Saiyan yet?
I can't wait until he figures out Rosé. That shit gets nuts
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QM UPDATE

Pastebin is once again being fucky and deleting my pastes without any prior notice or ability for me to save them before they go down. Thankfully I found a backup after last time, and am moving EVERYTHING from pastebin to that new site so stay tuned for that.
>>4913638
She’s not strong enough to physically fight even Okira, but she’s tough and powerful enough to potentially challenge Chaya soon.
>reactions
Rerugen’s thoughts: “I knew she was a fucking psycho, thank god we got her the hell off our planet!”
Rerugen: “She seems quite capable of playing to the galactic, bloodthirsty crowds.”
Zettour: “Indeed. Her success and prowess will make the PTO look more to our planet for recruits, we’d better not disappoint.”
Rudersdorf: “Quite. How is the recruitment campaign progressing, Rerugen?”
>>4913642
Who knows? You’ll have to wait and see.
He considers it a gift, since the late Guardian literally blasted him with it.
Potentially.
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>>4913785
>Tanya is being used as the Recruitment photo
>Idiots join in for cute girl
>Old hands pity the fools

>She’s not strong enough to physically fight even Okira, but she’s tough and powerful enough to potentially challenge Chaya soon.
When that happens, I hope she wins, Chaya needs a reality check, and I need to see the higherups react to the fact Tanya beat Chaya. Speaking of, does Chaya's idol performances reach them?
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>>4913785
Did the late King Vegeta ever leave behind a journal that his son would find years later?
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>>4913872
>Man I hope my son isn't a pussy. I should have another just in case.
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>>4913785
Let’s see if this works:
https://controlc.com/46ec566d
Can someone check and see if they can see everything? I did password protect everything except the above link, passwords posted in it and report back?
>>4913799
Quite. “She’s fighting, why aren’t YOU?” kinda vibes, showing her next to her squadron for perspective.
It’ll be an astounding fight, as you’re about to get a glimpse of IC next time.
>>4913872
Not that Vegeta knows of, there wasn’t one found in the items taken from Planet Vegeta to New Salda.
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>>4914068
>Quite. “She’s fighting, why aren’t YOU?” kinda vibes, showing her next to her squadron for perspective.
The stories her squad would tell, if Tanya wasn't looking forward to breaking the new recruits.
>It’ll be an astounding fight, as you’re about to get a glimpse of IC next time.
Seeing what she'll pull out to win is going to be good. She's a tiny sociopathic version of Karn.
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>>4914068
Links and passwords work bossman. We're good to go.
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>>4914068
Looks good here, though the site itself looks like absolute ass.
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>>4914089
Tanya’s off being a gladiator, she hasn’t actually been “home” herself in years now.
Nah, she’s worse. Karn is vengeful, but Tanya’s maliciously ruthless
>>4914100
Oh thank fuck. Just because it worked for me doesn’t mean it works.
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>>4912747
>Shin is at least SUPPOSED to know all of his subordinates, as they all report to him.
Does Aqua report to him?
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>>4912747
>I’ve only been supplanted twice, by Mechikabura and Carnival Forever Requiem. You don’t possess their power.
What about impostors?
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>>4914131
>Tanya’s off being a gladiator, she hasn’t actually been “home” herself in years now.
Kinda want to see her and her Squadron that was there for the Xeno Purge go home and show off a little.
>Nah, she’s worse. Karn is vengeful, but Tanya’s maliciously ruthless
Yeah, comparing that little ball of violence to Meloka would be more accurate, but Tanya isn't Yandere...unless Being X gets off to being insulted before brain wiping someone that's a little girl.
>Oh thank fuck. Just because it worked for me doesn’t mean it works.
Seems to be holding man, a solution is here. I'll try getting on again in a few days though, just to be sure today wasn't a fluke.
>>4914140
>Implying Aqua does the bare minimum of her job
>Implying she's smart enough to do paperwork
>Implying Aqua can be something other than Aqua
I would laugh if that claim wasn't so insane.
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>>4912552
>But Tanya, with her Type 101 actually, spoilers for the start of episode 160, STOLE divine power
Is Tanya something like goddess or half goddess now? Is Being X less of a god now?
>>4912570
>But does he? He’s been spending a LOT of time in the divine realm. And doesn’t yet know what happened to Chronoa.
I'm curious how would his and Old Kai's interactions would go.
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>>4914159
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>>4914159
A team is being deployed on your location.
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>>4914159
But what about memesters?
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>>4914128
As long as it works and the information gets to you all, that’s all that matters to me.
>>4914140
>Does Aqua
The proper question would be DID Aqua, as she’s been stuck in the mortal realm with Kazuma. And with her being out of the picture, no one else has been isekai’d since.
>>4914159
Imposters come and go, but none can fool the wary anon.
>>4914164
They all went back home, sans Visha. She’s sticking around as Tanya’s aid again.
Tanya’s yandere for free market capitalism.
Appreciate it. If this works, it’ll be the new main pastebin we use. Also, apparently I’ll get paid .2 cents per visitor per month, once it hits five dollars. Neat.
>>4914166
Not quite. She’s certainly something different than she was before donning the 101, but not in the way Being X had hoped. His plan to force reliance on her through the 95 to the point she’d accept his demands and give in failed.
Interestingly. But he isn’t yet strong enough to remove the Z Sword.
>>4914176
Ha. I do enjoy a well-done SCQ meme.
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>>4914179
Props to whoever made that one. Nothing is as purely truthful as that image.
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>>4914179
>They all went back home, sans Visha. She’s sticking around as Tanya’s aid again.
She's a nice girl.
>Tanya’s yandere for free market capitalism.
Tanya you can't fu...wait, she's with Jewfish all the time, did he, did he make a money golem to fuck?
>Also, apparently I’ll get paid .2 cents per visitor per month, once it hits five dollars. Neat.
Oh hey, that's cool. Good incentive to get users, like text Youtube.
>Not quite. She’s certainly something different than she was before donning the 101, but not in the way Being X had hoped.
Wait...no way, no fucking way, did she get Magical Girl powers or something and doesn't know it?
>Interestingly. But he isn’t yet strong enough to remove the Z Sword.
Immortlets don't know the rush of burning the candle on both ends to get strong. Pathetic.
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>>4914182
That was a fun episode.
>>4914187
Yes.
Ha!
We’ll see how it works, and if it doesn’t I have another backup on standby. Also, despite paying nearly 2 grand in auto repairs this year, after my vacation soon I’ll be back to starting my very own webpage. It’ll mostly be an archive for the quest, holding the images, episodes, pastes, and epilogues so they can all be more easily found.
>spoiler
Not quite.
Physical strength isn’t high on Kars’ priority list. Mastering divine ki and all he can potentially do, however is.
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>>4914280
>Mastering divine ki and all he can potentially do, however is.
Broadening your horizons is good and all, but it's only a fool who thinks petty tricks can supplant proper strength when shit gets real.
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>>4914280
>We’ll see how it works, and if it doesn’t I have another backup on standby. Also, despite paying nearly 2 grand in auto repairs this year, after my vacation soon I’ll be back to starting my very own webpage. It’ll mostly be an archive for the quest, holding the images, episodes, pastes, and epilogues so they can all be more easily found.
I'm waiting to hear from my mechanic after his son died myself, an I already paid for the transmission to get replaced. That archive page sounds cool.
>Not quite.
Damn, I was hoping for magical genocide girl Tanya.
>Physical strength isn’t high on Kars’ priority list. Mastering divine ki and all he can potentially do, however is.
>Steals Saiyan genes. Wastes their potential
He needs to die for that insult.
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>>4914288
When you wield the literal force of creation, simply getting stronker isn’t exactly a priority.
>>4914290
Ouch, hope he’s doing okay.
And I hope it turns out cool. Had planned on starting it at the start of the year, but that didn’t happen.
>Steals Saiyan genes. Wastes their potential
>He needs to die for that insult.
The man can literally change his anatomy on a whim, physical training is actually less effective than consciously modifying his body to whatever he needs.
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>>4914301
>simply getting stronker isn’t exactly a priority
Until a wad of bubblegum comes along and fucking eats everybody.
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>>4914311
I honestly hope we befriend Buu after fighting him, JUST so we can FEED CHRONOA TO HIM.
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>>4914301
>And I hope it turns out cool. Had planned on starting it at the start of the year, but that didn’t happen.
No kidding. Everything went wrong.
>The man can literally change his anatomy on a whim, physical training is actually less effective than consciously modifying his body to whatever he needs.
EXCUSES OF THE WEAK WILLED PASTA MAN WHORE!
>>4914318
If she tastes as bad as her cooking, that might just kill him.
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>>4914318
Buu is a fellow godslayer, he's cool in my book as long as he can keep his turbotard instincts down.
Shouldn't be too hard for us to befriend him. We befriended Ubo and Frieza just fine, what's another evil entity added to the list? Literally just don't treat him like shit.
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>>4914428
I figure if we can kill Babidi outright, we should be able to convince Buu to side with us.
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>>4914428
The problem here is A: Evil Buu is a thing. If Fat Buu goes off at the wrong time, and nobody strong enough is at hand to handle it before it takes over Good Buu, then the entire universe might get FUCKED before Whis decides to wake up Beerus.

B: Karn isn't the only person with a vote/opinion on what to do with Buu, try and argue with King Cold that the monster who killed his father, extermianted his order/family, and has haunted his nightmares for centuries now, that Buu is fine and shouldn't be erased to the last atom. See how that works out for you.
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>>4914447
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
I'd rather we observe our options beforehand though, not that things won't be wildly different in this timeline.
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>>4914447
As far as B goes, Buu is the weapon. Bibidi has more than earned the right to be called the killer with how much of a dickshit assfuck he is, especially since he's responsible for Buu being there and being directed at such things to begin with.
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>>4914447
Yeaaaaahhhh, sorry to say, but I 100% agree with what this guy: >>4914460 is saying, Buu is the Weapon, Babidi is the wielder.
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>>4914179
>he isn’t yet strong enough to remove the Z Sword.
But is he strong enough to break the rocks that encase it?
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>>4914179
>But he isn’t yet strong enough to remove the Z Sword.
And that's why the fucker needs to WORK OUT and TRAIN instead of lazing like a pitiful fucking Kai, it doesn't matter how he can shift his body if he's too WEAK to fucking do anything with the changes!
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>>4914311
But who would absorb who?
>>4914318
>Buu with time god powers
It’s like you’re trying to end your reality.
>>4914342
Been that kinda year.
Ha
>>4914447
King Cold will certainly have very strong opinions on Buu’s fate, should he be awakened. And unlike before, now that Caulifla’s given him a new lease on life, he may be able to DO SOMETHING about it by then.
>>4914474
Yes, break through the magic holding it in place when you can’t break it through the seal meant to be broken with enough force. Also, after being around Shin and Kibito for so long, would he even believe that story? Especially after what he’s learned of divine ki on his own compared to what he was taught?
>>4914485
What I’m saying there is he isn’t motivated enough to pick it up. He’s already learned Shin isn’t exactly the most reliable source of information.
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>>4914514
>He’s already learned Shin isn’t exactly the most reliable source of information.
I can believe that.
What has Shin even been doing for the past 75 million years?
He sure as shit hasn't been training or looking for Babidi, otherwise he'd have have found him by now or been far too strong to even give a shit about Buu.
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>>4914591
Well he has been looking for Babidi.

In probably the least efficient way he could.

Seriously one fucking crystal ball and he's using it to scry all of creation? Fucking retard. He didn't even round up a bunch of really shitty mages and give them crystal balls to make a surveillance network. He didn't send out telepathic messages too guardians across the universe to BOLO for the yellow ballsack man. He seriously sat there spending a few hours every day just scrolling slowly across surfaces of planets and asteroids until Babidi does some dank shit with his mondo magic which would ping Shit I mean Shin.
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>>4914597
Shin would never gather multiple people to help expedite his process.
That's what mortals do.
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>>4914603
Hold me back Coach I'ma beat his ass HOLD ME BACK

Really though. Shin is just. So fucking dumb. And so far up his own ass he can't even see it.
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>>4914611
75 Million years of everybody kissing your ass will do that to you.
God willing, one of two things happens in the near future.
We kill Shin outright and Kars steps in immediately, or we give him a reality check and put him on the path to competency.
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>>4914636
Might need to be the second, Beerus might be woken up if we just try to kill Shit, I mean Shin right now.
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Don't know if this has already been noticed (I don't want to read through this thread as I'm only up to #67 in this quest, and don't want to spoil anything for myself), but it looks like pastebin deleted the Quest#67 epilogue yesterday (Towa smut by the sounds of everyone's reactions in-thread) - https://pastebin.com/hSGNi57i

Any chance of a re-upload? Interested in seeing what prompted some pretty amusing responses.
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>>4915001
He's put them on another site, here's the link:
https://controlc.com/46ec566d
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>>4915021
Aaaaaaand I just tested that epilogue, that page is Borked, password doesn't work
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>>4915022
Wait, no, I'm just a goddamn dumbass and didn't see the second password for the NSFW pastes.
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Thanks mate.
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>>4914591
Right? Shin doesn’t come close to Kars’ dumb high, at least 189IQ brain.
I mean I can understand the steep learning curve of stepping into your boss’s, and ALL your superiors’ shoes simultaneously, but after a few dozen years at least you should have most of it down.
>>4914597
>He didn't even round up a bunch of really shitty mages and give them crystal balls to make a surveillance network
No, he asked King Cold to expand his surveillance network to look for the sorcerer. And honestly, drafting Cold to do his job of searching for Buu/Babidi was probably the single-best idea Shin ever had.
>>4914603
Bingo. Mortals get shit done, Kais sit and watch.
>>4914611
So far up his own ass his head went all the way through and ended up on his shoulders.
>>4914636
Not anywhere quite like that, as Chronoa was born only 75million-ish years before AGE 850(Xenoverse1).
>>4914913
Better question is, even with two minutes foreknowledge, could Whis interfere? It takes him roughly 22 minutes to travel from Beerus’ planet to Earth.
>>4915001
That was deleted by pastebin’s new woke admin team. New link posted by this anon here >>4915021 and I’ll be adding it before pastebin on the next episode’s first post.
How’re you enjoying the quest so far?
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>>4915086
>Better question is, even with two minutes foreknowledge, could Whis interfere?
If he was on the ball, he'd be keeping tabs on Shin and fly over at the first whiff of Karn.
Hell, ideally he'd be training Shin right now, making sure he can defend himself and do his fucking job properly.
But that would be the smart thing to do, so nobody with an ounce of divine ki will ever think of it.
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>>4915086
>Better question is, even with two minutes foreknowledge, could Whis interfere? It takes him roughly 22 minutes to travel from Beerus’ planet to Earth.
It depends on how fast Shin says something stupid to make us just execute him for criminal incompetence.
>>4915098
Nah man, Whis is smart, he's just lazy as hell. Like Beerus. Plus he might be waiting to see Kars take Shin's place to train him, if he doesn't do something stupid here that makes Karn kill him.
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>>4915098
>>4915133
Remember, Whis CANNOT interfere in the affairs of mortals. The angels can avoid attacks and defend themselves, but very clearly aren’t allowed to go engaging. Look what happened to the one that tried against Moro.
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>>4915159
Weird how that is the consistent thing with them, but Whis can wake up Beerus right?
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>>4915159
Not entirely true, actually.
They are allowed to interfere in the affairs of mortals so long as they don't actually use any of their abilities as angels and instead just rely on their normal abilities or tech.
Whis is just kind of a lazy asshole in general.
It's why Merus was allowed to be Galactic Patrolman, because he wasn't using his angel abilities, and he was very definitely doing more than avoiding attacks and defending himself..
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>>4915159
>one million hours in MS Paint later...
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>>4915258
I fucking love it, it's *PERFECT,* lol
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>>4915258
Noice
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>>4915258
This is true art!
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>>4915169
Yes, and aid the destroyer with travel and Rewind. But cannot actually battle themselves. The only attack we’ve ever seen Whis use was a chop on Beerus, his charge. Also the angels are something different, beings on a different existence.
>>4915178
Merus wasn’t a fully-fledged angel yet, just an angel-in-training. So he had more leeway than an angel with 300+ million years on the job. Plus at that point what’s a few mortals?
>>4915258
Incredible work
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>>4915433
Well I hope Beerus is ready for his early wake up call. Or can he just show up to Shin and take him out of there before pulling a Shin and getting killed?
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>>4915446
Took me three rereads before I realized this post was all about Whis. Shin can teleport to Beerus’ planet, but Whis himself has no teleport ability. Also, he doesn’t interfere with the lives of the Supreme Kai, their safety’s on them. Angels watch over the Destroyers, guiding and shaping them according to The Grand Priest’s(?) will.
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>>4915530
What do you mean Whis can't teleport? He's Beerus's ride. And I guess Shin is going to either die or be beaten to near death and locked in a gravity chamber.
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>>4915536
>What do you mean Whis can't teleport?
He either doesn’t know how to, or just can’t teleport. He can move really fast though, which is how he takes Beerus from place to place.
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>>4915551
That...when did that get changed? Did Super do it? Can he just not do it, is he just that lazy?
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>>4915556
>That...when did that get changed?
Hasn’t it always been that way? I haven’t watched BoG since it came out so I can’t remember if he could TP back then.
>Can he just not do it, is he just that lazy?
There’s one fan theory that Whis can TP but he just likes to fuck with Beerus by making him wait.
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QM UPDATE

Okay, so my schedule’s changed around a bit. There will be no episode this coming weekend, due to personal reasons. And next weekend I’ll be on vacation, so won’t be running a dedicated episode then. However, I will be posting epilogues those Saturdays, if I can. So right now, episode 160 will be starting on July 31st. Sorry for the longer break between episodes, but just found out I won’t be able to run this Saturday so wanted to let everyone know.

>>4915536
He’s never teleported. He’s faster than Beerus, but it still takes him 22 minutes to travel from Beerus’ planet to Earth. Even in BoG Whis took at least a minute to get to earth from King Kai’s. A trip that took Saiyan Saga Goku, following Snake Way, nearly a whole day.
>>4915556
He’s never shown the ability to teleport like Goku, or the Kais.
>>4915562
>There’s one fan theory that Whis can TP but he just likes to fuck with Beerus by making him wait.
Honesty I could by that, if any angel was shown with that ability. Whis does enjoy a good tease.
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>>4915588
so completely random question GD but who's actually stronger SKoT or Beerus?
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>>4915588
Okay, so my schedule’s changed around a bit. There will be no episode this coming weekend, due to personal reasons. And next weekend I’ll be on vacation, so won’t be running a dedicated episode then. However, I will be posting epilogues those Saturdays, if I can. So right now, episode 160 will be starting on July 31st. Sorry for the longer break between episodes, but just found out I won’t be able to run this Saturday so wanted to let everyone know.
No worries, thanks for the heads up! Take all the time you need, man!
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>>4915626
Physical prowess? Beerus. But SKoT could simply rewind Beerus, as the Destroyer has no defense against it.
>>4915645
It’s a shame, I really didn’t want to leave everyone on a two week wait after this episode’s end. But that’s how life goes sometimes
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We should incorporate Vegeta's technique into our fighting style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84ciGBhK8o
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>>4915905
>“Vegeta’s technique that does no damage”
That line was great. Why would Karn use a technique that actually does nothing?
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>>4915918
To be fair, when not using Energy Body, it's a way to vent Berserker Ki. Not only that, but it can create a smokescreen, so against less experienced opponents it can be useful.
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>>4915588
I swear in BoGs Whis used some technique with his staff to travel, not that he isn't just faster than Beerus. Or am I crazy?
>>4915661
>Physical prowess? Beerus. But SKoT could simply rewind Beerus, as the Destroyer has no defense against it.
What is this smell I smell, this smelly smell, that smells, smelly? An intentional design flaw on any GoD?
>>4915645
>>4915661
>It’s a shame, I really didn’t want to leave everyone on a two week wait after this episode’s end. But that’s how life goes sometimes
What?
>>4915939
We just kill less experienced opponents faster than the experienced ones anyways.
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>>4915958
Did you not see my update here: >>4915588?
Anyways, yes. Destroyers aren’t immune to the SKoT’s magic. But the angels may be.
>>4915939
So is any of Karn’s better techniques.
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>>4915981
>Anyways, yes. Destroyers aren’t immune to the SKoT’s magic. But the angels may be.
So if Chili hypothetically hit Beerus with a time spell, would it still affect him, or only Pink Bitch's?
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>>4915981
And yeah I saw it, guess I mistook it for Whis's time rewind thing.
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>>4914179
>Also, apparently I’ll get paid .2 cents per visitor per month, once it hits five dollars. Neat.
That's a lot of money.
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>>4913628
>Between him, SKoT, Mechikabura, Vox, and who knows what else, Karn is certainly under quite a lot of scrutiny.
Is the life of Karn and his family and friends something like a reality show to them? Keeping Up with the KarNdashians?
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>>4915258
Fantastic work.
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>>4916028
Good question. We’ll have to wait and see, as the only other time stops/rewinds we’ve seen are Whis’s, and Beerus was always inside the range.
>>4916228
>Lupin gif
Nice
>>4916229
Not quite.
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And here we have another excellent piece by @arantking, this time the rock-muncher himself Leyas!
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>>4916694
Fooking saved! It feels good to have art of the old team come up now. Still can't see the resemblance to Sarada
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>>4916732
Believe it or not, there is such a thing as fraternal (non-identical) twins.
Not to mention sexual dimorphism is a thing.
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>>4916822
Sure I guess, its just not the first thing I think of when seeing them, but I guess they get that alot.
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>>4916694
Actually pretty sweet
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>>4914280
>It’ll mostly be an archive for the quest, holding the images, episodes, pastes, and epilogues so they can all be more easily found.
Nice. Thanks.
>>4915588
>And next weekend I’ll be on vacation, so won’t be running a dedicated episode then.
I wish you a great vacation.
>>4916694
Nice art.
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>>4914311
>Until a wad of bubblegum comes along and fucking eats everybody.
>>4914514
>But who would absorb who?
Strange question.
The only person that could absorb anyone there is Buu. That seems to be the answer unless Kars learned some way to absorb other beings in a magical way like Buu does or more biological way like Cell does.

Or perhaps some unexpected player will enter the stage there. Maybe a result of Dr Gero getting really creative despite not having the genetic material he was able to obtain in canon Dragon Ball timeline.
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>>4911970
By the way GD could you answer >>4911970 if mortal making a good impression on Zamasu before he decides to genocide all ningen would be able to make him not hate them?

Would all that good impression evaporate anyway as soon as he learned that Karn erased Time Kai on Chilli's wedding?
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>>4917323
>The only person that could absorb anyone there is Buu
INCORRECT
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>>4917346
You are right I feel stupid for overlooking something so obvious. This Pillar Men ability is good for this.
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>>4916732
Fraternal, not identical. Plus you have no idea what their parents looked like.
>>4917290
Right? @arantking is on a roll, they have a Meloka in the works now too. If you have socials go show the artist some love.
>>4917316
Already have the layout and everything designed, just have to actually fund and make it.
Appreciate it. Will be good to reconnect with family I haven’t seen for 3ish years.
Yes, very much so. Our newest artist is 2 for 2 on knocking them out of the park.
>>4917323
>The only person that could absorb anyone there is Buu.
That is a bold assumption to make, of someone who copied a Stand. If Kars sees and understands Buu’s absorption, well, all bets are off.
>Or perhaps some unexpected player will enter the stage there
:^)
>>4917336
If there were such a mortal. They would have to be pious, worshipping and obeying the Kais without question. So, clearly not anyone in Karn’s family.
>>4917346
>>4917378
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
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>>4917387
I'm still curious as to the goons Babidi managed to snag after we ruined his plans with Dabura.
Seems like it's gonna be a fun time when we find the little bastard.
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>>4917396
Pretty sure the big threat is going to be Buu itself; I can't imagine there's very many goons he could round up stronger than the Demon King himself.
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>>4917400
Well yeah, Buu will be the star of the show, provided he can actually get enough energy to accomplish that.
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>>4917396
He learned a very valuable lesson from his battle on New Salda. Saiyans are extremely dangerous beings, but they could also be instrumental in Buu’s revival.
>>4917400
Not necessarily stronger, but perhaps they could wield power in other ways?
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>>4917387
So, genuine question here.
If Kars were to absorb Shin, would Beerus even be affected by it?
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>>4917917
Good question, and I’d say it depends on HOW he’s absorbed. Here’s a better one: is Beerus connected to Shin, the Grand Supreme Kai inside Buu, or the Old Kai in the sword?
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>>4918306
>Grand Kai could affect anything in the outside world
>All intents and purposes he was dead to anything outside it, but apparently not
>Did Shin going through the rushed training even do it right to connect too Beerus
>Is Beerus even connected to anyone right now?
>Is Beerus actually dying, so impossibly slowly that because Grand Kai isn't back, the Heat Death will occure?
GD why you do this?
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>>4918312
couldn't* affect
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>>4918306
>is Beerus connected to Shin, the Grand Supreme Kai inside Buu, or the Old Kai in the sword?
He's connected to Shin. Remember Future Trunks' timeline?
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>>4918312
Because contemplation is fun, be it about your own existence or something fun like this.
>>4918344
Yes, where Buu was still basically dead in the magical pod, Shin died to Dabura’s attack, and the old Kai got petrified along with the Z sword also by Dabura and perished when it shattered. Unlike Piccolo, the Kais don’t regenerate.
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>>4918456
It's specifically stated that Shin dying is what caused the absence Beerus and Whis in that timeline.
That said, we HAVE made departures from established lore before, so it's your call.
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>>4918306
>I’d say it depends on HOW he’s absorbed.
If Shin was still alive while being absorbed:
>in Buu way it would leave him unharmed so this may not cut the link to Destroyer's life.
>Cell's way could leave him intact and alive as well. Cell spat out Android 18 and she lived.
>Pillar Men's way would kill Shin in the process so link to Beerus' life would be severed.
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>>4918306
>is Beerus connected to Shin, the Grand Supreme Kai inside Buu, or the Old Kai in the sword?
So Beerus may be connected to all three of them if the conditions are right?
>Currently Shin is alive and is connected.
>Old Kai counts as dead while in the sword, but if he was released he could uphold the destroyer's life link?
>Supreme Kai inside Buu counts as alive only when Boo is released from his imprisonment. Right now counts as dead.
Beerus still has only 1 real Kai keeping him alive at the moment?
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>>4918471
You’re missing my point. He couldn’t be linked to a Kai held in suspended animation, Grand Supreme Kai, due to Buu being sealed. Old Kai, who Beerus admitted was a former Supreme Kai that he COULDN’T kill else he would have vanished was well died with the Z Sword. And then, and ONLY then, did Shin in Super Trunks’ timeline perish as well. Leaving no inheritor to that link and Beerus passing.
>>4918545
Absorption is a funky mechanic, full of twists and turns. If you include Super manga, Grand Supreme Kai is still alive inside Fat Buu all these millennia later. >>4918555
The link/mantle of Supreme Kai is clearly inheritable. If Kibito’d survived in Super Trunks’ timeline, Beerus would probably have survived too. Only reason it didn’t work with Trunks is he isn’t at least part Kai.
And no, not in your timeline at least. Old Kai is still there in the sword. And unless it’s broken, and the Old Kai dies, he keeps the link with Beerus alive. But besides him there’s still Kibito and Kars, both of whom could inherit the Supreme Kai’s mantle. But let’s be honest, if something happens to Shin, Kibito wouldn’t last much longer.
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>>4918802
Shin and Kibito are Chinese expys. Shin is the stereotypical arrogant magistrate and Kibito is PEAK hanger-on sycophant.
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>>4918853
>and Kibito is PEAK hanger-on sycophant.
Very true. But at least with healing magic and Kai Kai, he’s useful
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>>4918940
Even worse, a slimy yes-man that's above the useless peon level.
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>>4918983
Hey, Kibito’s more competent than his boss.
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>>4919025
>Kibito’s more competent than his boss
That's like being the smartest man with Down Syndrome.
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>>4919025
You aren't wrong, but then again, that really doesn't mean much.
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>>4919034
I think you meant to say >smarter than a man with Down’s Syndrome
>>4919042
Fair. But that is why Kars would not have him as an underling, would fear a potential betrayal.
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>>4919079
>I think you meant to say
I said what I said.
Also couldn't Kars just make his own underling?
He seems perfectly capable of turning his own biomass into separate beings.
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>>4919079
I mean, if he expects a betrayal from a guy that licks the boots of Shin of all people, I'm pretty sure being beaten by Joseph is still messing with his psyche.
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>>4919088
No, as they are only extensions of himself and not other beings. But now, who knows? Divine ki is the energy of creation after all.
>>4919198
>if he expects a betrayal from a guy that licks the boots of Shin of all people
>he says, as Kars pretends to be the perfect student whenever the Supreme Kai could observe his behavior
Kars knows a thing or two about getting what you want, even if it means playing the part of the yes man. Right up until the moment you stick the knife in.
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>>4919246
Pretty sure he's projecting more competence in Kibito than necessary, but being a little paranoid is how he's still walking again I guess.
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>>4919293
if he really was more careful he wouldn't be currently diving headfirst into a situation that Karn could potentially actually kill him via DDF and there would be fuck all he could actually do about it.
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>>4919503
Blame the Kai DNA in him. It degrades higher thinking, as clearly demonstrated.
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>>4919293
He’s more than a little paranoid.
>>4919503
One, he doesn’t know what Divine Dragon Force can do, and two, who said he’s diving in? You’re acting like he’s taking a risk here.
>>4919509
Ha
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>>4919617
>He’s more than a little paranoid.
Got I wish I could read, because all I see in that line is, "I never got over Joseph."
>Ha
What can I say? He was a low hanging fruit.
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Looks like we need more vore.
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>>4919620
Well he still feels had from their last fight, as well as a bit from Jotaro’s fight as well. He realized that Joseph WANTED him to get Za Warudo, so Jotaro could kill it and hopefully by extension himself. But it didn’t happen that way, and Kars was able to remake Za Warudo afterwards.
Indeed.
>>4919628
No.
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>>4919638
>Well he still feels had from their last fight, as well as a bit from Jotaro’s fight as well. He realized that Joseph WANTED him to get Za Warudo, so Jotaro could kill it and hopefully by extension himself. But it didn’t happen that way, and Kars was able to remake Za Warudo afterwards.
It's so weird, I guess Kars is as off as I am, because I am still thinking Joseph is more important right now.
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>>4919638
Too late.
Already writing up the first draft of Futa Android 21 Cock Vore.
Look forward to my masterpiece monkey.
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>>4919643
Good 21 or Evil 21?
Decisions decisions.
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>>4919642
It’s the whole “remember the one who beat you” thing going. Even long after Joseph is dead and gone, Kars still has to hold the L.
>>4919643
I mean you can, nobody’s going to stop you if your conscious won’t. But I can safely say no regulars here would want it to exist, and just like the other one you posted I’m not going to read it. Why don’t you put that effort into starting your own quest instead? It’s a much better way to get consistent (you)s
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>>4919823
It's not so much that he got beaten, it's more the circumstances under which he lost.
Namely that he held every single advantage possible in his confrontation with Joseph and STILL lost.
Then he went and lost to his grandson because he just copied Star Platinum on whim and got smoked like he was green as grass.
Kars can hold a regular L no problem, but these are two full-fledged Omega Ls that are gonna be passed down the Joestar lineage till time immemorial.
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>>4919823
>It’s the whole “remember the one who beat you” thing going. Even long after Joseph is dead and gone, Kars still has to hold the L.
I figured, and find it hilarious he still worries after almost getting obliterate by the same guy. Its great.
>>4919888
Checked, based, Kars has a Trunks weakness to the Joestar Line.
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>>4919643
I’m cool with it as long as it’s funny.
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>>4919823
>It’s the whole “remember the one who beat you” thing going. Even long after Joseph is dead and gone, Kars still has to hold the L.
Imagine holding it forever because Kars is immortal.
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>>4918456
>Because contemplation is fun, be it about your own existence or something fun like this.
Next episode. This suddenly happens. What do we do?
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>>4920061
DDF. Simple as.
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>>4920061
Final Flash it as hard as we can.
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>>4920061
Deck him in the schnozz.
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>>4919888
>passed down the Joestar lineage till time immemorial.
Maybe. Jotaro may be stronger, both physically and with his timestop. But will he be fast enough, or still one step behind? Spoilers in the image for part 6 btw.
>>4919908
More Joseph than Jotaro, after he realized everything in that fight was exactly how the old man planned it, but if anyone else starts showing that same sort of cunning he’ll immediately prepare to either flee or overwhelmingly obliterate them. No testing their abilities or showing how dominant he is, nothing.
>>4920054
True. But we don’t actually know what his lifespan is, but it’s undoubtedly vastly increased.
>>4920061
Unless Mechikabura/Zeno/Grand Priest interferes, nothing. Nothing you can currently do would phase such a being, even Divine Dragon Force’s abilities have their limits.
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>>4920140
>But we don’t actually know what his lifespan is
Wasn’t it explicitly stated he was immortal after becoming Ultimate Kars?
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>>4920148
Yes, by a narrator. He is: Invincible, doesn’t age, will never die, and has the abilities of all other life forms and out-performs them. But that is only with the knowledge of earth’s beings, and cannot breathe or maneuver in space. Which beings like Freeza, Beerus, and Buu can, to name a few. On earth he was an unmatched being, but amongst the stars who knows how “immortal” he really is?
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>>4920190
Well of course there’s plenty of things in the wider universe that could kill him. I wasn’t insinuating his immortality was the absolute kind, just that he was immortal in the biological sense, as in he doesn’t age. I was just confused by the lifespan comment, that’s all. I didn’t know if my memory was betraying me, or if this was another in-quest change.
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>>4920220
You’re missing my point, perhaps I didn’t make it clear enough. The narrator said he was invincible. The same narrator who said Dio and Jonathan perished together in the ocean. My whole point is the narrator is limited
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QM REMINDER

There will be NO episode this weekend or next, due to personal reasons tomorrow and my vacation next weekend. SCQ will return with a new episode on July 31st, noon EST. Hope to see everyone then! Also, first of two epilogues out tomorrow evening hopefully, and if not then sometime Sunday
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>>4920398
Have a nice break, be careful going in cities, or near them. The commies are getting more open with their desperation at getting caught. Well, more open then they were already.
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>>4920403
Are they rioting again or something?
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>>4920430
Pretty sure there was talk after George Floyd's statue and mural were struck by lightning, but its more with the commies in Cuba opening fire on protestors sick of their corruption. And Good ol Biden banning Cuban citizens from entering the country because they don't vote Commie.
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>>4920381
>My whole point is the narrator is limited
I understood that, but when you brought up Freeza and the others i thought you switched to Kars in the SCQ context and were using them as a reason. Which is where I went with my response. So my bad.
>>4920436
I’ve been mostly ignoring the whole Cuba situation, but it seems I’ll have to check things out if it’s getting that bad.
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>>4920449
BLM, AOC, and Biden is praising Cuba for killing people against communism right now. That is including the Biden Administration ignoring the illegals getting into the country through the open boarders policy.
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>>4920403
Why I love my family, not one of us is leaving unarmed. Some dumbass thinking we’re easy prey would have a bad time
>>4920449
All good, overexplained and lost my point
>>4920430
>>4920628
And this is why, when you plan your trip, checking concealed carry reciprocity as well as self defense laws is a must. Some dumbass hoodrat thinking they’re “hard” approaches us, one of two things’ll happen. They hear our accents, and gtfo because of how we talk. Or they go and Try Something, and have their last day.
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>>4920687
>GrandDragonQM proving again common sense trumps crazies
Well, bullets can never be swayed by Identitarian politics. Unless you count the bullets spinning off after hitting or clipping bones.
>Captcha: AHARR
indeed captcha, indeed.
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>>4920687
>dumb thug approaching ahead of his group of morons acting hard
>GD: Owari Da
>W A S T E D
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>>4920689
Ha. Haven’t had issues before, but that doesn’t mean we’d take unnecessary risks with the world going crazy.
>>4920707
Jiren’s not usually what someone thinks when they hear our accents. More like Deliverance. But it works as an excellent deterrent.
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>>4920398
holy shit no scq for 2 weeks

i might just write a fan interlude to fill the void this will leave behind. anyone have any suggestions? no time patrol faggotry
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>>4921081
How about, the Stardust Crusaders rad adventures and training arc with the Dark Matter Pirates and fighting the vampires Kars made.
>>4921047
>Spoiler
GD you scary. Still going to pelt your house with high end computers and monitors with our slave army pulling the catapults.
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>>4921081
>Dark Matter Pirates
>Cooler
>Babidi
>Jojo
Just a few suggestions
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>>4921259
Isn't JoJo technically still in highschool right now? Or at least on his way to graduating? Him having school shenanigans could be neat.
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>>4921047
Actually, that reminds me. Have you told any of your family or friends about the quest, or have any seen it on their own time and started talking to you about it without knowing you wrote it?
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>>4921291
Are you talking about Jotaro or Josuke? Jotaro is well out of HS and College by now, and Josuke is technically still in Middle School if I’m lining up the timeline correctly.
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>>4921259
Cooler and Babidi will 100% be canon plot devices in the future, so I won't step on GD's toes here. However, I might play around with >>4921246's idea a little.
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>>4921331
>Babidi comes back
>Cooler BITCHES OUT AGAIN
Likely event to happen.
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>>4921377
Cooler may be something of a fuck-up, but he knows better than to waste his second chance.
Especially after his power-up amounted to fuck all in the face of Karn.
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>>4921385
Does he? Does he really? He is in the textbooks next to the definition of salty bitch. Thanks Freeza.
Yeah, but look at the BOI, he had a long training arc, hugs kisses, plenty of salt with his juice, and then tried it again. BIIITCH, is as dumb as BOI. Just remember that.
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>>4921081
Have fun.
>>4921246
>GD you scary
Thank you. And ha.
>>4921294
Nope. My family isn’t and wouldn’t be interested in the subject matter.
>>4921331
Don’t worry about stepping, as long as you don’t try impersonating me it’s all good.
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>>4921412
>Nope. My family isn’t and wouldn’t be interested in the subject matter.
Oh, well that's too bad. At least you can say you have over 50 fans on the internet.
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>>4921398
Difference here is that Cooler, based on what GD has said, has stopped fucking around ever since he got back to training.
If nothing else, I'm looking forward to our rematch in the future...provided we don't leave him in the dust forever.
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Chaya and Meloka.
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It official, the male pattern baldness is finally getting to Vegeta.
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Epilogue hopefully out within the next hour or two!

>>4921418
Could be worse.
>>4921664
Nice!
>>4921673
New chapter out already? Neat.
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>>4921690
>nice!
check ur gmail if u want to live
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>>4921664
Sweet.
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>>4921707
>U7 Caulifa seething over the absolute size of this lass
Love it.
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>>4921673
>one panel looks like he's wearing a weird helmet to cover his forehead
>the next looks like he both gained and lost a chromosome along with the widow's entire goddamn mountain
Bruh this nigga ain't got no consistency in that art. His fucking head shape changed too.
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>>4921713
Stuff like that happens when you spend your time trying to emulate a hyper-specific artist without understanding the fundamentals first.
Ask me how I know.
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>>4921714
How do you know?
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>>4921716
Because I have spent the last few years making the same mistake.
It fucking sucks because while I do enjoy trying to emulate Toriyama, I feel like I'm stagnating as an illustrator in my own right.
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>>4921720
I was just being a smart ass.

If you feel like you're settling and not growing you could give some other artists a shot. Even drawing familiar characters in other artists' styles. Unless your hankering is to develop your own style.

Can't really give any advice. Not much of an artist myself. Maybe just draw someone as a cube.
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>>4921731
What I need to do is buckle down and get back to working on the fundamentals, specifically my anatomical knowledge and posing.
I could also stand to learn how to draw faces better.
It's a neverending learning process like every other craft, I just gotta fucking stick to it.
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>>4921734
Maybe sit in on some bodybuilding competitions. Seeing firsthand what the body does and looks like might be able to help. Watching some yoga or calisthenics on youtube may help if you don't have the time or care to go and find muscly mofos showing off out in the city.

Otherwise you're gonna have to draw the cube people.
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>>4921736
Bodybuilders are great anatomical reference, I know that much already.
Besides that, I already have my methods of study for these sorts of things.
I'm just a lazy fuck who needs to sit down and actually get to studying instead of doodling all the time.
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>>4921739
Draw the cubeoids.
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-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 Epilogue-

AGE 749, NEW SALDA

“C’MON CHAYA, C’MON BROLY!” you cheer, as both your oldest siblings rise into the air. “Do your best!”
“Been awhile since we’ve sparred each other, huh?” Chaya asks, taking your dad’s more serious fighting stance than the one she uses for fun. Doesn’t look like she’ll be underestimating Broly today. “This will be fun.”
“Yeah.” Broly replies simply, his emerald aura far calmer than his sister’s which is blazing up around her as sparks dance around the both of them. He then slowly takes his stance, carefully keeping his energy under perfect control. “Whenever you’re ready.”
“Let’s GO!!” she shouts, immediately blasting towards her brother and swinging with a wide right. But Broly was ready. His left forearm deflects her punch wide outside, his right jab lands squarely into her nose and stopping her charge. “Ack!”

Broly doesn’t hesitate, following his right up with a lightning-quick left cross then a right uppercut, and finishes the combo with a double flying kick into her chest. Chaya is sent flying, but immediately begins flipping backwards, and quickly burns off that momentum to stop herself. To your surprise, Chaya flew back less than half of what you’d expected from how hard his kick seemed, her flips stopping her.

“Heh, left myself wide open there.” Chaya says, wiping her bleeding nose with the back of her right hand. “Tch! Not doing that again. You better brace yourself!”
“Whenever you’re ready.” Broly replies, having already retaken his stance and waiting for her to charge in again. And she doesn’t leave him waiting.
“HAAAAAA!!” Chaya shouts, blitzing forward and seemingly going for the exact same attack again. But right as she closes to attacking range, Chaya fakes the jab and instead twists clockwise around him the moment Broly raises his arm to parry again.
“Woah!” you hear yourself shout excitedly, watching as she spins around her brother and fires off a right turning kick. But Broly’s no slouch on defense, seeing her move twists in the opposite direction, bringing his right arm up defensively just in time to block her kick. Pushing off his arm Chaya reverses her spin, twisting around into a left turning kick. But this time Broly doesn’t just block, he instead catches her left ankle with his left hand as he spins.

“Wuuuooooaaaaaah!!” Chaya shouts, as Broly spins her up around his head once, then pitches her down into the sea. Your older sister disappears with a splash, but a moment later re-emerges blitzing back towards her brother, aura blazing. “HRRRRYAAAAA!”

BOOM
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>>4921755
“Wow, big sis an’ Broly are really really fast.” Kayle says, you glancing over to your little sister in her Super Saiyan form, eyes darting around as she tries to keep up with their fight. “I wonder who’s gonna win?”
“Obviously Broly.” Tatsu and Tomi say simultaneously, holding hands and clearly able to keep up with the fight. “He’s more than four times stronger than her.”
“But Daddy’s stronger than Momma. An’ she beats him up!” Maz replies, then after a second relents a bit. “Usually.”
“Just keep watching, and we’ll see!” you say, turning your attention back to the battle as the oldest siblings continue throwing barrages of punches and kicks at each other. “Fights aren’t just about raw power, but it does always help to be stronger.”

Yet as they continue trading blows, the difference in their levels quickly becomes apparent. Broly easily blocks or deflects every one of Chaya’s strikes, whereas every time he swings Chaya has to scramble. She takes about every third or forth hit, unable to dodge or block it, and after a minute or two disengages from her brother as he lands a solid right to her jaw. The blow staffers your older sister, who’s launched back about four to five yards from her brother before coming to a stop.

“Tch. That one hurt a bit.” she says, spitting up a bit of blood before turning back to face him fully. “Looks like I’ll have to go all out to fight you!”
“Go Broly, go Chaya! Do your best!” you shout up to them encouragingly. But then you feel it, the familiar tug of the Darkmoon Pendant around your neck. “Hey, don’t kill each other! I’m gonna disappear for a bit!”
“Huh?” Chaya asks, confused. But Broly simply nods, understanding as you turn and rush back inside the ship. You blitz to your room, and snatch the chime off the small alter built to hold it and amplify it’s magic while not in use as you saw in the magic tome Gwyndolin gave you. As you grab onto the artifact you feel your essence leaving your body, and everything goes dark. After several seconds your vision returns, your body seemingly rising up out of the ground.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mo3nDUA3KWs

Looking around, you find yourself in a unfamiliar forest surrounded by dozens of new and interesting smells. But you can’t just start chasing off after them, as you soon hear the metal-on-metal crashing sounds of combat. Sounds like whoever you’re here to help is already in trouble, you’d better move!

“Hang on, I’m coming!” you shout, hoping they heard you while orienting on the sounds and taking off at a sprint. Rushing along up a short hill you find a clearing in the forest, as well as a battle in full swing. A familiar towering, golden-armored knight is surrounded by the evil skeletal-armored Darkwraiths!
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>>4921756
“Hey you! Uglies!” you shout, the dozen or so enemy combatants as well as the golden knight all freezing and turning their gazes towards you. “Yeah, I’m talking to you, boneheads! Looking for this?”

As while asking the question, raise your left hand and activate your Dark Hand. The hungry energy spreads out, forming a circular, shallow domed shield out before you.

“You BITCH!!” one of them shouts, immediately breaking off her attack and rushing towards you. “Give that back! It’s MINE!!”
“Come take it then!” you reply, taking your fighting stance and holding the dark shield out in fron as the woman sprints towards you.
“Run, child!” the golden knight shouts, then immediately gets attacked by those Darkwraiths surrounding him. “Vile creatures! RRRRAAAAA!!”

“HAAAAA!!” she shouts, the Darkwraith who’s hand you’d taken before swinging her heavy sword down at your shield. But instead of blocking her attack you drop the barrier, twisting clockwise past her blade. Focusing on the Dark Hand, you then slap your palm into the side of her skull-helmeted head, and slam her down to the ground. The Dark Hand feasts on the Darkwraith’s energy, you feeling it sucking the dark being’s ki into you. But only for a moment, leaping back a moment before she swings her sword wildly. Landing on your feet you begin muttering a special prayer, reciting the tale of the Dragonslayer knights of old wielding their spears of lightning against the ancient dragons. A powerful bolt of lightning begins to coalesce around your chime, holding the powerful magic overhead as you ready to toss it. “What? I-Impossible!”

“Here, hold this!” you shout, and toss it towards her. Except you don’t actually fire the attack. You fake your throw, the Darkwraith rolling aside to her right to dodge the attack. As she rolls on the ground you dash over, stopping above her as you swing down. “Ha! Gotcha now!”

ZAP

“Guuuyaaaaaaa!!” she cries out in pain, body spasming as the lightning courses through her veins for several seconds. Smoking and smelling cooked, her body falls limp and begins disintegrating into motes of red light. After another second or three her body’s vanished completely, you looking up to those still attacking the golden knight. He’s spinning his spear around, deflecting their swords but unable to use the thrusting tip of his weapon to end any of his attackers. However, now you are here and it’s time to save this guy!
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>>4921761
Looking at the enemies grouped together, you get an idea. Holding your talisman before you, reciting the tales of the female Dragonslayer knights, the magical lighting forms the shape of a bow and arrow, you pulling the arrow back with your left hand. Sighting in on the one of them with their back directly to you, you release the arrow. The arrow of lightning flies forth, piercing straight through one of the Darkwraiths and electrocuting him as his body spasms.

“Gyuuuuaaaaaah!!” the would-be assassin cries in agony, the Darkwraiths on either side of him whirling around towards you. But you’ve already pulled the lightning string back, second arrow ready to fly.
“Shit, she’s still alive!” one shouts, the pair of them rolling aside as you let go of the string. Unfortunately for their friends, neither one of them was the one you’d fired at. So as the one to your left dishes, his ally who was to HIS left takes the shot instead.
“Gyaaaaaaaah!!” a woman’s voice shouts, her body spasming from the electricity. But you can’t fire another shot, lowering your bow as the two that evaded are now rushing right at you.

“We gotta take her out!” one of the Darkwraiths shouts, the two of them rushing towards you with their shields up. “Kill her, quick!”
“C’mon, only two of you?” you say, letting your tail grab the chime from your hand to free it for slugging them. “Alright, bring it on!”
“Haaaa!!” the first one shouts, swinging his blade down overhead. You create the Dark Hand’s shield, deflecting the blow over your left shoulder and leaping into his face.
“HYAAAA!!” you roar, driving your right fist straight into his skull face mask. Bone shatters, your punch knocking him flat on his ass. But as you do, you see the other one’s right there!
“DIE!” a woman’s voice shouts, the other Darkwraith swinging down with her sword held in both hands.
“EEP!!” you say, twisting and catching the metal blade between your hands. The force of the blow knocks you down to the ground, but your grip on the blade doesn’t weaken. Focusing you flash up into a Super Saiyan, and twist the metal blade with a shout. “HYAAA!!”

The Darkwraith’s blade snaps right beneath your hands, you immediately dropping it behind your head and rolling backwards back onto your feet.

“Impossible! The Golden Child?!” the Darkwraith says, taking one, then two steps back away from you. “I thought that was a myth!”
“No, but you’re about to be.” you say, dashing in and punching that Darkwraith square in the throat. The Darkwraith drops to a knee with a gurgle as her hands go helplessly to her throat. Floating above her you draw back your foot, and kick in her mask in. She falls back, also disintegrating into those motes of red light as you look back to the knight.
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>>4921764
“HRRRYAAAAAA!!” he shouts, spear piercing straight through one of the Darkwraith’s chests up to the crossguard. The golden, lion-helmed knight jerks his weapon free, spinning around and blocking another’s swing before sweeping the butt of his spear and knocking the Darkwraith’s ankles out from under them. The golden knight whirls his spear around, thrusting the point down through that Darkwraith’s chest as well, you feeling it’s ki vanish after a second or two. The body begins disintegrating as well, you looking around and seeing none of the Darkwraiths are left. “Haah, haaah. Well. You’re certainly a sight for sore eyes, young Darkmoon Blade.”

“Glad to help, mister knight!” you reply with a big smile. “Need any healing while I’m here?”
“Nay, such fiends couldn’t harm one such as I.” he replies. “I thank thee for thine assistance, Knightess.”
“Of course, anytime!” you reply, then feel your eyes widening. From behind the golden knight you suddenly see a colossal blade rising, swinging down at his head. “LOOK OUT!!”

Rushing forward you place your hands on his chest, shoving him aside to your left as the titanic blade swings down at you.

“TRIUMPH!!” you yell, your Stand appearing with it’s wings wrapped around you. The giant blade slams down onto Triumph’s golden feathers, slamming both you and your Stand down hard into the ground. So hard that you both make a crater, and kick up a massive cloud of dust.
“Another of Dark’s servants?!” you hear the golden knight shout, metal clanging on metal above you. “You shall pay dearly for this!”
“Dragonslayer Ornstein.” you hear an unfamiliar, bassy voice say. “Your ring shall make a fine addition to my collection.”

Coughing on the dust as their weapons clash, metal striking metal you let Triumph vanish again as you rise to your feet. That warrior’s blow packed quite a lot of power, even standing upright you’re still underground. Ornstein, as the bad guy called him could be in real serious trouble. You have to help him!
“Hyup!” you shout, leaping into the air above the dust cloud to see the two dueling. Ornstein deflects the giant sword with his spear’s crossguard, sending it crashing down into the ground by his left side. Before the black-armored knight can recover, Ornstein thrusts for his chest with the golden spear. The heavy, shorter knight’s rectangular shield blocks the blow, deflecting the thrust out past his left while pulling his sword back for another swing. He then swings that massive blade horizontally, Ornstein again using his cross spear to redirect and deflect the blade up and over his head, sending it crashing to the ground on his other side then leaping back to get some distance. You take your chime back in hand, ready to do battle. Now’s your chance to attack!
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>>4921767
“With the strength of Lords, they challenged the dragons.” you say, reciting the words of the strongest miracle you possess. Lifting your right hand overhead, a blazing lightningbolt appears in your hand. “Gwyn’s mighty bolts peeled apart their stone scales.”
“Lord Gwyn’s own lightning?” Ornstein says, clearly shocked that you can wield it. But the enemy knight doesn’t seem concerned, bracing himself behind his shield as you pitch the massive lightning bolt down. It strikes the metal armored man, knocking him down flat on his back with a mighty thunderclap.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mo3nDUA3KWs

“Oh no, another one.” you think to yourself, but before you can think on it any more Ornstein ends the first one. He thrusts his spear down, it piercing straight through the black armored helm. The invader dies, ki immediately dropping to nothing as his body begins disappearing as well. “Hey, I heard one more show up!”
“Indeed. The servants of Darkness do not rest.” he replies, you looking around from your advantageous lookout spot up in the sky. You don’t see the telltale red glow of the evil invaders, nor do you sense anything more powerful than small forest creatures anywhere nearby. But you know they’re out there, so better keep your eyes peeled. “Should you spot our vagabond, give a shout, and point my spear towards the-“

KATHWOOOM

“Behi-!” you start to shout, trying to turn towards the source of the sound when suddenly everything becomes pain. Looking down, you see what appears to be a giant metal spear big around as your dad’s forearm sticking out of your chest. You try and speak but nothing comes up, just a spray of blood from your mouth as your limp body drops out of the air.
“Knightess!!?” Ornstein shouts in surprise, dropping his spear to catch you before you could crash to the ground. As you stop, the sudden jerk twists the spear in your guts, you trying to cry out but still no sound happens. “No, thou cannot perish here!”

Setting you on the ground, he then placed an armored boot against your side and grabs the spear. Then with a grunt he heaves, jerking the giant arrow from out of you.

“GYAAAAAH!!” you cry out, blood spraying everywhere as the giant spear is pulled free. But you have no time to be relieved, struggling to remember the words of the healing prayer.
“Here, drink this. Hurry.” Ornstein says, kneeling and opening another of the miracle blessed waters. The golden knight begins pouring it down your throat, you feeling the magic coursing through your veins and rushing down to the giant hole in your gut. Ornstein smiles, and seeing you recovering rises back up to his feet. But then the unthinkable happens.

KATHWOOOM
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>>4921770
“NOOOOO!!” you shout in , as another spear-like arrow suddenly sprouts from his chest, spraying you in his blood. “TRIUMPH!!”
“KIIIIIIIIIII!!” your Stand caws as it materializes. Wrapping it’s wings around the knight’s body, you direct your Stand to heal his wound as you dash over, snatching his giant golden spear off the ground. As you lift the weapon you spin, looking towards where the shot came from.
“Show yourself, coward!!” you roar, but only the wind faintly whistling through the trees answers you. You reach out with your ki sense, but still can’t detect anyone. Whoever it is, they’re hiding from you. But they can’t hide forever. “You’re gonna pay for that!”

KATHWOOOM

“THERE!!” you shout, transforming in a blaze of golden light and blitzing past the giant spear-like arrow into the forest. You dash for a few seconds, then get the first sight of your attacker. He’s a large warrior, easily a foot taller than Ornstein and nearly twice as broad. In his hands is a bow taller than even himself, which he drops as he sees you approaching. Reaching to the tree next to him, the man draws a giant double-headed axe that was leaning against it and slams the head down into the dirt. “I’MMA MAKE YOU PAY!!”

KABOOM

Suddenly the ground itself erupts, slamming into your body and launching you into the sky. Shaking the sudden hit off you reorient on the giant fighter, gritting your teeth and blasting back down towards him again. He again slams the axe down into the ground. You stop your charge immediately, and as you do again the ground erupts. But this time you’re out of his range, the tumultuous earth settling back down after a moment and that’s when you strike.

“HYAAAAA!!” you roar, dropping down spear point-first at the antler-helmed knight. He sees you coming, drawing his weapon back up and raises it defensively. The golden spear’s crossguard catches on his axe’s handle, the full force of your charge slamming into his weapon. Yet, to your surprise he’s able to block all of it! “No way.”
“HOAAA!!” the giant of a man howls, shifting your weapons aside then slams his right elbow square into your face.
“GAAH!” you cry out as your nose breaks, flipping backwards and sliding to a stop in a three-point stance, spear held behind you. But the giant invader isn’t done yet, slamming one blade of his axe into the ground then charging right for you like a freight train. “Uh oh!”
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>>4921773
“HOOAAAA!!” the giant roars, swinging the axe right for your, well, entire body. But you’re faster, leaping aside as the blade rises out of the ground towards you. Your speed carries you free of the blade, twisting in midair and thrust the spear towards his side. The golden spear’s blade bites deep, piercing through his armor and into the man’s side. “HOOAAAAAGH!!”
“Gotcha this time!” you shout, grasping the spear with both hands and charging directly into the giant. With your full power behind the weapon it’s point pierces deep, the giant crying out in pain as you drive it in all the way to the crossguard before suddenly dashing back, and jerking it free. “That’s for what you did to me!!” you shout, re-aiming the piercing point at his face as he falls to a knee. “And this is for Ornste-huh?”

Suddenly you feel the pull of the Darkmoon pendant, it readying to pull you back to your own time as if you’d already won. But the enemy’s still before you, which means-

“NO! NO NO NOO!!” you shout, immediately blitzing back towards Ornstein. Blasting out of the trees you see it, two more of the Darkwraiths are swinging their blades like hammers on the prone form of the knight, with a third having stabbed him through the gut. “GET AWAY FROM HIM!!”

Blazing in at full speed, you use his spear and punch straight through the one to Ornstein’s right. He explodes in a spray of red, you immediately whirling on the one stabbing him and simply club him with a two-handed overhead swing. Your blow breaks several of the skeletal warrior’s bones audibly, making him one with the ground as you whirl on the third one, who tries swinging for you. But you’re too strong, raising your left hand from the spear and catching his blade.

“Wh-What?!” the Darkwraith says, you jerking the blade from his hand and tossing it before thrusting the golden spear straight through his torso. “Im...possi...ble...”

The third Darkwraith disappears as well, Ornstein’s body flopping onto the ground. You summon Triumph again, your Stand dripping crystal tears into the wound while you try lifting his head with your left hand.

“No no no, you can’t die!” you say, one hand behind his helmeted head and the other trying to give him his spear back by laying it on his chest. “I’m so sorry, this is all my fault! I didn’t mean to-“
“It is alright, little one.” he says with a painful-sounding cough. “Take it. Take up my spear, and *cough* keep protecting those hunted by the Dark. I...believe...in...”

But then his ki vanishes fully, body falling limp and leaving you holding his spear, then a moment later everything goes dark. Your heart feels heavy, knowing that he died because you failed him. And you’re never going to let that happen again!

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 Epilogue End-
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>>4921774
Damn, RIP Pikachu.
That makes 2 weapons of the four knights that we got in our family. Arguably the worse ones too. Meloka could make good use of Ciaran's tracers...
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Damn, RIP.
That was one hell of a ganksquad.
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>>4921820
RIP indeed. But is that the last Cauli will see of him? Or will he be back?
>Arguably the worse ones too.
Depends on your build. And look at Caulifla’s Faith, not many can wield Sunlight Spear.
And not necessarily. She already has dual-wield weapons that utilize her strength, and she can channel her ki into effectively.
>>4921821
Very much so. They know who they were up against, at least the Darkwraiths did.
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>>4921842
He did come back once, and no one else did so
maybe there's a chance.
I guess when you are a Saiyan you can afford to spend your souls in more esoteric stats.
But do her weapons have high scaling, incredible bleed damage and bonus for backstabs? I guess these really aren't that useful when you already oneshot most things. And dual wielding tracers isn't very efficient, Ciaran really was the weakest link.
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>>4921869
Where Caulifla goes, the flow of time is quite convoluted.
>spending souls
You’re saying that like she’s spent any of them she’s taken. As for her weapons, she has Demon’s Scar, Dragonslayer Spear, and Yorshka’s Chime. That you know of.
>Ciaran really was the weakest link.
The other knights fought dragons, or the Dark. Ciaran was an assassin, who’s mission was hunting enemies of the crown. Read: humans.
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>>4921869
I have faith that the spear will be better than it was in game. In addition to stuff like not having to work around clunky aiming, maybe she can do fun tricks with it like channeling the divine lightning through it while locking weapons with someone.
Speculation aside, it sounds like it will combo well with her stand, she could fend off foes with the spear and then burn them with her stand.
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Late night thought.
Karn gets invited to the gun range, misses every shot because using firearms to blow holes in his target is unintuitive to him when he can use his own body and ki for it
Meanwhile meloka’s in the back doing the full ocelot gun twirl routine
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>>4921890
Heh, I see what you did there. And who knows, Karn can do some surprising things with Artorias’ sword.
>>4922104
He would unironically be a terrible shot with something non-automatic. Meloka would pick it up far quicker, but she wouldn’t be Ocelot-tier.
>>4922195
>where do you guys keep
I have them all, working on building my own site to save everything there as well. Other than that, the images are just scattered through the archive.
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RIP Orenstein. He never found his master in this timeline I suppose.

Tho real talk, when Aku finally runs into Califula on the battlefield he's gunna have a heart attack, amorphous blob of Darkness be damned.

>Has the Chime of a Goddess
>Has a still active Darkmoon Pendent
>Can use Miracles including Gwyns on lightening
>Has The Spear Of The Lion.

He's gunna flip his shit.


Also old topic, for the reasons why Chilli and Karn didn't get frozen in the Time Stop during the wedding by the SKOT, their Divinity counteracted it, since Karn has Divine Dragon Force, and Chilled is one of Nergals Reapers, or its because their both bonded to the Darkness, Chilli via his magic, and Karn via his purged Manus Curropted and having the Soul of the Darklurker inside him.
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>>4923057
Ya know, I remember asking about the effects of absorbing the soul of the Darklurker, but I don't think we ever got a straight answer from GD.
I also tried to find out more about the Darklurker itself back in the day, but didn't find much since most of it is just conjecture on the Souls wikis and forums.
I did find one striking detail though. The Darklurker's moveset is eerily similar to Karn's own.
Right down to greatsword, explosive attacks, beams, teleportation, and splitting into separate entities.
Coincidence? Maybe, but it might also explain how Karn's style developed after the fact.
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Pretty amazed this thing is still going. Good on you, GrandDragon.
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>>4923143
>tripcode matches
If that really is you Som, take notes.
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>>4923150
I'm out of the QM game, anon. But this QM was running way back when I was, and he's outlasted a lot of us. Just wanted to say good job.
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>>4923143
Oh hey, I didn't expect to see you here. People give you a lot of flak, but yours were the first quests I followed and got me into this stuff. I had fun, so thanks for that.
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>>4923157
Thanks, sorry I was an asshole and not a great writer, but glad you enjoyed them.
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>>4923151
Oh come on, GD's only been running for...4 years.
Man, time fucking flies.
>>4923163
For all your faults, I still enjoyed DB Quest for a good while.
Tofoo's adventures are what kinda introduced me to this board anyhow, so I have kind of a soft-spot for em.
Also the first quest I ever did fanart for.
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>>4923175
That was you? Thanks anon, you rock.

Yeah, GD's ability to run for so long is quite amazing
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>>4923143
Never expected to see you pop into here. Shame that U6 quest never came about.
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>>4923190
Yeah, I toyed with the idea for a while, came up with some potential arcs, but never really thought of anything that would be that fun. Though doing the Tournament of Destroyers or Tournament of Power from the Universe 6 perspective would have been neat.

I thought about bringing back Dragonball Quest at one point just to push through Buu and do Super.
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>>4923192
I think you might be better off exploring other plot hooks honestly.
As much as I enjoyed most of the DB quests revolving around an Earth-Born hero, I can't help but think shaking things up would get your creative juices flowing and pique the interest of some anons.
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>>4923214
Yeah, considered a Universe 6 Namek quest as one of my ideas too. All in all, I'm just done with QMing. Good to see DB Quests haven't vanished, though.
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>>4923192
>I thought about bringing back Dragonball Quest at one point just to push through Buu and do Super.
As much as I’d enjoy participating in that, I think it’s best to let that quest rest. That one anon gave a pretty stellar conclusion to the story, and besides, if you came back with it the threads would be flooded with spergs who still hate you.
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>>4923057
That was death for him. But was it his first?
She will certainly bring up bad memories.
Chilli has the dome around him. Which he never actually explained to you. However, Karn is a different case. There’s a very specific reason he was able to move.
>>4923098
No, you didn’t. And that was on purpose. Who or what the Darklurker is, or was is still unknown. It’s an interesting being, most notably it’s soul is NOT one of Dark. It was not a part of Aku’s lineage, nor corrupted by that force of nature.
>>4923143
Thanks. Glad to see you’re still around and kicking, thought the curse’d finally caught you for good.
>>4923163
>sorry I was an asshole and not a great writer,
I’d say you were more of a writer than a QM, but the adventure was always interesting at least. The Bear style will never die.
>>4923177
>GD's ability to run for so long is quite amazing
I give the same advice to anyone who wants to go this long, hoping new QMs will be here long after I eventually pass:
run the quest you want to play. If you don’t want to play it, how would you expect anyone else to?
>>4923217
>the threads would be flooded with spergs who still hate you.
A sometimes-unfortunate fact of this place. People remember, and usually assume the worst of you off your behavior. That or they just meme on you for a giggle
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>>4923240
>its an interesting being, most notably its soul is NOT one of Dark
That could be assumed by the fact that the Darkwraiths wanted it dead.
After all, why would the servants of the Dark want to destroy a creature of the Dark?
Speaking of, are we not technically a member of the Darkwraith Covenant given that we acted under orders from Kaathe and Aku?
Did we ever actually tell the Aku of our timeline about all of that?
>The Bear style will never die.
Karn's Energy Body and Meloka's Ki Nails would end up creating something similar to the original intent of the Bear Style.
Feels like something one of our kids would recreate after trying to emulate us, Kuma-Ken notwithstanding.
>>4923215
DB will never die, despite Toei's best efforts.
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QM UPDATE

Going to be doing something a little different with this upcoming epilogue, it may answer a few of the questions you all have about the greater lore, and open up many others. I will say this, as a bit of a hint to what’s coming. Or rather, what has already happened: Mechikabura is far older than your entire timeline.

>>4923276
>That could be assumed
True. But look at it’s soul when you got it. It was pristine, untouched by the Dark around it.
Yes, Aku did ask where you got the sword. As for covenant, no. Karn has not given himself in that way to any sort of deity/higher power.
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>>4924010
>True. But look at its soul when you got it. It was pristine, untouched by the Dark around it.
Such resistances to the Dark would leave me to believe it was a "Divine" being (by Dark Souls standards)
That said, it's also weak to lightning, which was Gwyn's bread and butter, so it's probably not a related to him or his ilk.
I'd say maybe it has some connection to the Dragons based on their shared weakness, but there's really not much to support that theory past that.
This just keeps getting more and more confusing.
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>>4924010
Wait...if Meloka eventually becomes the Super Saiyan God of our timeline, then does that mean she can technically create her own covenant?
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>>4924040
It’s an interesting being. Especially for a game(once you get the dlcs) that’s all about the different children of Manus, and that the one powerful being still residing in the Dark isn’t any of them.
>>4924092
>create
No, she herself couldn’t. However, what gives a deity their power? What is the source of divinity? Hint: the Super Saiyan God ritual should show you the answer
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>>4924216
>However, what gives a deity their power? What is the source of divinity?
I feel like we talked about this before, and the "conclusion", for lack of a better term, was that the source of divinity is congregations.
More specifically, groups of mortals inadvertently lending their energy to something. Whether that be through collective worship, prayer, etc...
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>>4924243
You’re almost there. The physical actions are one thing, but what they symbolize is the most important part of it all: faith. They BELIEVE. Five Saiyans with full belief in the sixth give their power and faith unto them, and elevate that chosen Saiyan into godhood. The initial power of that newfound God is the combined belief of those who devoted themselves in the ritual, and adds in that newfound god’s people who also believe in them.
The more faithful one has, and the more powerful the belief in their deity is, the stronger that deity becomes. Especially for the deities like Death, and Time. The more death one sees, the more they then believe in death, and the closer to them it gets. The older one gets, the more they believe in time. And time does it’s work on them in return. Faith is a powerful thing, and the complete faith of the young even moreso. Just look at Caulifla in the last epilogue, she still has the unchallenged faith of a child and look how powerful it is.
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>>4924378
Oh, so it's kinda like touhou.
Anyways, I think that clears up why the ritual doesn't work with berserker a bit. Pure fury and defiance, or whatever makes up the berserker form on a basic level, doesn't sound like it mixes well with that.
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>>4924378
Huh. Damn shame we can't attain godhood, because if there's one person everybody has complete faith in, it's Karn.
How are Meloka and Vegeta's reputation among the Saiyan populace respectively?
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>>4924402
>karn becomes god
>instantly gains strength greater than any single being in the universe and by a long shot as well
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>>4924398
>spoiler
I mean, okay? Still haven’t touched that.
As for Berserker, well. There’s a reason why big green cannot go God.
>>4924402
Very true, Karn is the people’s hero after all. And I’ll say this about the Super Saiyan God power, it varies a bit from person to person. As for reputations, Meloka is known as Karn’s other half, and both a vicious fighter and dedicated mother from the last war. Meanwhile Vegeta’s known as a dedicated leader, willing to jump in front of a bullet to save his people.
>>4924425
Unfortunately, that path is not one for Karn.
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>>4924433
>Unfortunately, that path is not one for Karn.
i crie
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>>4924378
>>4924433
>As for Berserker, well. There’s a reason why big green cannot go God.
Hm....my best guess, going by the inherit nature of berserk to rage against everything, Mechi wanting Karn to become a true force of destruction, Berserker God being possible by mastering your rage and shattering your own internal mortality, Berserker Gods Believe In Themselves. Their rage rejects Time, Rejects Death, Rejects Even The Faith Of Those They Care For, Because Why Put Your Faith In Others When You Can Do It Yourself?

You called the form the rejection of the divine hierarchy before GD and I think I see why now.
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>>4924462
When one door opens, another closes. The curse of being is the curse of choice.
>>4924537
>You called the form the rejection of the divine hierarchy before GD and I think I see why now.
:^)
You’ll see another glimpse of it in this upcoming epilogue.
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>>4922197
That so? A shame. I was hoping to see all the illustrations done for this long quest in my pleasure while reading along. Still, I wish your site luck in getting off the ground upon completion.
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>>4924010
Also, I got a question apex. That's the form Gogeta SS4 is based off, isn't it? How exactly does that work.

And do you incorporate any of the Heroes stuff like Evil Saiyan, Super Saiyan Berserk, Rose 2 and 3, etc.
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>>4924647
They’re all saved on the archived threads, but as of right now don’t have a place to just view quest images. Yet.
>>4924648
Yes, pic related. Not to be confused with the partially-divine “Super Full Power Saiyan Four Limit Breaker.” It’s the next level beyond Primal without allied energy boosts or other shenanigans.
As for Heroes, not much has been revealed on that front. Mechikabura exists, and has taken an interest in you. Perhaps you’ll find more out about why in this episode’s upcoming epilogue?
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>>4924715
That's fair. Thought you might have some insight on them in depiction but I can wait.

I'll ask instead how does Rose or Super Saiyan Rage works here. As well as the difference between Legendary, Berserker, and Wrathful Saiyan if you got the time.
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>>4924715
Why can't we have female Saiyans that look like that in canon?
Proper female proportions and some goddamn muscular definition.
Instead all we get are hungry hungry skeletons that look like children.
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>>4924751
Toriyamas new art style really did away with muscles for the most part. Not sure why, but I guess that’s his thing now.
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>>4924813
I get that he's gone for an overall leaner look for characters, and his actual designs themselves don't look bad most of the time.
I'm just frustrated at the fact that even those slimmed down renditions STILL have more muscle mass and defined anatomy than just about any female character in the series.
The closest they ever got to what I would consider a woman who could actually throw a punch was Kefla.
A fucking fusion character who showed up for a grand total of 30 minutes, and never again.
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>>4924715
Whew lad. Finna turn into a watermelon to get featured in her meme vid gat damn.

Real shit though no one wants to eat a kick from legs like that holy fuck.
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>>4924829
Japan fears muscle girls or cheap animation keeps them from being defined properly.
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So why was Chilli given a Tuffle name and not a Saiyan name anyway?
Chillis are fruits, not vegetables.
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>>4925166
Clearly Karn got cucked by Big Tuffle Cock (BTC) and is too dumb to realize.
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>>4925166
Remember, the scientific classification is for faggots. The culinary usage is for chads. Just like tomatoes, you treat them like a veggie.

Unless you're running around crying about watermelons being berries and peanuts being beans.
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>>4925182
Lmao.
Retard you literally gave your firstborn a Tuffle Name.
Accept it.
>>4924715
Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta's Super Saiyan 4 is just Super Saiyan 4.
There's nothing extra special about his Super Saiyan 4.
This is something you would know if you actually paid attention.
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>>4924739
Wrathful is simply channeling an Oozaru’s power without actually transforming into the beast physically. Legendary is the more controlled, not going all-in “normal” Super Saiyan version to Berserk’s full power. As we saw, Blue Goku’s Kamehameha didn’t affect Berserker Kale yet Super Saiyan God Goku could kick Legendary Kale around without much issue.
>Rose
It’s Super Saiyan Blue, but backwards. A godly being who obtained Saiyan ki, instead of a Saiyan who obtained God ki.
>>4924751
Because they’re advertising to the Japs first and foremost, instead of to the wider marketplace.
>>4924813
>Not sure why
Because the man’s just there to get paid. Dragonball wasn’t his favorite series to write for, especially later.
>>4924829
>forgets absolute beef Kale
But I get what you mean.
>>4924863
Those are the results you get, training for 12-16 hours a day in increasing gravity from the time you’re ten.
>>4925166
>Tuffle name
No, not quite. If you’d been in the threads from that time, Chilli was named in the Cold fashion to honor Freeza. Naming your firstborn in the way of his people did have quite an effect on Freeza.
>>4925194
>There's nothing extra special about his Super Saiyan 4.
>nothing
>different hair and fur
>different aura
That’s like saying there’s nothing different between Super Saiyan and Blue. For comparison, here’s Super Saiyan 4 Vegito.
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>>4925237
Thanks for the info. But one more question. Where does Broly's Full Power Super Saiyan fall under? Is it still under the Wrathful setup?
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>>4925237
>No, not quite. If you’d been in the threads from that time, Chilli was named in the Cold fashion to honor Freeza. Naming your firstborn in the way of his people did have quite an effect on Freeza.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
DOUBLE KEKED
>That’s like saying there’s nothing different between Super Saiyan and Blue. For comparison, here’s Super Saiyan 4 Vegito.
Yeah.
You're wrong.
You retarded spic.
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>>4925237
This is Frieza's first ever interaction with the Saiyans in actual canon.

https://youtu.be/t3pQnb9uDKI

The absolute state of karn, naming his FIRSTBORN CHILD after a genocidal megalomaniac who sees his entire race as niggercattle slaves. Kekhold mc is exactly what Frieza always wanted to turn Broly into; a dumb niggermonkey who can be pointed at things like an attack dog. Either your brain is huge and you have been leading the player base on a villain quest through room temperature iq rose glasses as karn's POV, or you're a lorelet in a series you've wasted 4 years of your life writing.

I'm so glad that there is finally a good DBZ quest on this board now that isn't this spic jojofancringe trash.
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>>4925248
Based random tripfag.
Saiyan Conquerer?
More like Saiyan Cuckold.
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>>4925248
What's the new DBZ quest like anyway?
Sounded and looked too much like Conquerer to me so I skipped it.
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>>4925254
Thats fate namefag Sakurasimp/Batman
>>4912028 talked about him
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>>4925262
He's talking about a different poster, but Batman is a Fate player and his trip was leaked on /qtg/.
I think we might be looking at an attempt to cause conflict between the big quests.
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>>4925257
It's worth a shot. Features a squad of Saiyans stranded on a planet outside Friezas purge of the Saiyans. Looks really promising so far.

>>4925267
Refute my criticisms of this garbage that butchers canon and characterisations or just cope.

I am Batman.
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>>4925287
Did you even read through the quest?
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>>4925293
I keep trying to but I just keep getting stalled by walls of cringe, while the characters and mechanics are so inconsistent to canon. The continually growing cast of more and more out of DB universe characters who are also completely out of character kind of makes it hard to trudge through.

For example, SSG Xeno Trunks going off in canon feats absolutely bodies karn, unlike this shitshow would have you believe. Considering he solos multiple demon gods in their second forms, including Towa and Finn. Before he proceedes to shit on perfect Mechikabura who can just casually destroy spacetime. Reading Dragonball Heroes is hard when it conflicts with jojocrossover headcanon.
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>>4925304
Different interpretations of the character under wildly different circumstances.
The dice dictate a lot, especially our performance against Trunks and his ensuing debuffs.
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If you wanted to name your son in honor of Freeza, why not use a Freeza Race name for him?
Why a name for the underlings Freeza kills without remorse on a whim?
This is like being friends with a Plantation Owner and calling your first born Kwaku Bongobongo or something.
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>>4925312
I'm pretty sure Chilli's name being a Freeza race name was actually just a happy coincidence.
At the time, I'm pretty sure nobody checked to see if chillies were actually a vegetable.
That said, Chilli's weird as far as Saiyans go, so having a name to match that fits.
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>>4925314
It's a cuck name.
You're all retards.
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>>4925306
So you handwave a power level that is exponentially inferior winning due to dice? Terminal brain damage and a pathetic cope. All you're doing is reinforcing my point. Anything can be overcome when you make all encounters fated to win encounters with 4d100 dc of 70. If you can't see why such a system is effectively fated to win you're a drooling mathlet.

>>4925314
Grandspic just stated it was a Frieza race homage, readlet.
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All this feeding (you)s to the trolls.

>>4925241
Wrathful basically stacks with both his Super Saiyan and Berserker forms. Essentially making canon Broly a Golden Oozaru equivalent in power.
>>4925248
Who ever said Karn was a pure-hearted, moral character? Episode one was a straight-up genocide mission after all.
I look forward to seeing where it goes, hope the qm and quest last.
>>4925267
>at an attempt to cause conflict between the big quests.
No, as I hear no animosity towards an(objectively, by the numbers) more successful QM. Just bored anons stirring shit and trying to get reactions. In other words, a regular Tuesday. SCQ just happens to be in the crosshairs this time.
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>>4925331
You never can tell with people here. Half the time they're just irreverent shitposters or they're genuinely buttmad because they have some sort of something that definitely needs medicating.

After a tic it becomes pretty obvious which is which.
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>>4925331
They are terrible at baiting, who would unironically defend Trunks? You'd have to be baiting or you actually like Trunks in which case you should be more mad at how canon shits on Trunks than us.
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>>4925600
What's it like in Bizarro World you drooling retard?
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>>4925600
At least when we bully Trunks it builds character.
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>>4925500
I don’t mind trolling, if people put some effort into it. Like that supposed vorefag who’s been going around beating off on his keyboard while shitting on various quests he doesn’t like. I don’t read unsolicited literature in our threads, but at least the faggot’s supposedly putting in some effort.
>>4925600
>who would unironically defend Trunks?
True enough.
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>>4925751
Yeah. Even if you hate the game you gotta respect the hustle.
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>>4925751
>supposed vorefag
I suppose someone who's written his MC's son getting vored by a clown would know who's a real vorefag and who's not.
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>>4925763
Hey now, he wasn't vored.
He just had a chunk of his face and his eye bitten off.
There's a difference.
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>>4925763
>>4925770
I can’t believe vorefag hasn’t capitalized on this scenario yet.
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>>4925773
Does he write preds that aren't cute girls? Thats weak shit if you ask me
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>>4925331
So Full Powered Super Saiyan is basically another Berserker Form then?
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>>4925331
Could we ever learn how to stack Wrathful with our own Berserker forms?
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>>4925758
Exactly. Funny shitposters are great, and ones that put in a lot of effort second. Last are those one post by this id fags trying too hard to be confrontational. See the one below you.
>>4925790
As I said, beats off on his keyboard. Would be a terrible, magical-realmy qm more fit for akun.
>>4925797
Yes, and no. It’s “full powered” because it’s being boosted by the Oozaru might. It isn’t -a- form, as it’s Wrath combined with Berserker.
>>4925819
Yes. If you’re willing to sacrifice planets, and possibly friends along the way.
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>>4925927
>Yes. If you’re willing to sacrifice planets, and possibly friends along the way.
Surely there has to be a few that are scheduled for destruction.
We should ask Frieza about that sometime after we set up our Death World Project.
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>>4925927
>Yes. If you’re willing to sacrifice planets, and possibly friends along the way.
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>>4925966
Potentially.
>>4926011
Only one of those sacrifices are acceptable to Karn.
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>>4926066
Wait, GD, with the Time Patrol more wary, but also dealing with several other fronts, we'll have more leeway to see Towa's half of the family, right?

...That includes Future Chaya and Ace, right? I don't doubt that they'd be able to easily stomp our shit as we tried learning how to combine Wrathful with Berserker, starting with 1 since it'd be 'easiest'(None are easy, but you get the point) to control I imagine.
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Honestly messing with Wrathful at all is a terrible idea. Your legit getting brain damage by channeling the Oozaru power without transforming your body to handle it. Its an emergency 'Oh Shit' button that we press when the alternative is death. Not something we 'train' to use all the time.

If your fucking about with Ace and Future Chaya, it should be using them to get control of Berserker 3 since almost no one in our timeline can take it, not trying to give Karn a stroke by using a power, that by design, a saiyans body isn't built to handle.
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>>4926905
>Honestly messing with Wrathful at all is a terrible idea.
I don't remember exactly but was it not said that you can stack Wrathful with:
>Berserker
>Ascended Berserker
>Berserker 3
But not Berserker God, so this means Wrathful would be useless in the long run? As Karn is going to strive for Berserker God after getting 3.
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>>4921764
>The Golden Child
Interesting title Caulifa has gained there.
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>>4926927
>I don't remember exactly but was it not said that you can stack Wrathful with:
You can stack Wrathful, you can also decide to fly up close to a sun and start trying to practive Hamoan to get stronger breaths, that doesn't make it a good idea.

Wrathful is something we use when the alternative is us, or someone else dying, its not something we regularly use because it can cause permeant brain damage, kill us, or cause Karn to kill someone else.
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>>4921756
>“Looks like I’ll have to go all out to fight you!”
>“Go Broly, go Chaya! Do your best!” you shout up to them encouragingly. But then you feel it, the familiar tug of the Darkmoon Pendant around your neck.
I was hoping to see that fight.
>>4921774
>“No no no, you can’t die!” you say, one hand behind his helmeted head and the other trying to give him his spear back by laying it on his chest. “I’m so sorry, this is all my fault! I didn’t mean to-“
Good epilogue, though it was sad how it ended.
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I was wondering Energy Body is a vague name. Wouldn't Energy Armor, Ki Armor or something be more accurate and more encapsulating what the move does?
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>>4923177
>SOMNIUS !!gX5o3MymIpF
Nice to see you here. Your Saiyan Story was first Dragon Ball quest I was reading. Frank was an unusual Saiyan as his not Saiyan sounding name implies. Good memories.
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I was thinking about one little detail. Was Raven at Chilli's wedding? Cause as I was reading I got the impression she was not.
How could this be? Was she not invited? Was she unable to attend because of her Guardian's duties? I think she should have been there at the wedding.
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>>4926958
She's bound to New Salda as its Guardian.
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>>4926963
That's a bit sad that she could not leave for at least an hour. Especially since she has her portal magic, so she could be back in a moment.
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>>4921707
Very nice art.
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>>4924572
>You’ll see another glimpse of it in this upcoming epilogue.
I am very interested in learning more about this. Since we are talking about topics related to faith, gods, mortals and mortal Ki and God Ki.

I was curious about what is demons' place in all of this? Were they created by Kais too? Is it even known? As well as their relation to mortals and kais? Seems like there some relation between kais and mortals, but what about demons?
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So mortal ki flows through all life forms that aren't divine or demonic in nature. There is a Ki in even a flower. Right? So if Karn would be pouring a bit of his Ki into a plant regularly would it grow better?
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>>4927032
Where are you going with this?
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It was fun reading the epilogue. Seems like Caulifa was so close to saving his life. Her attention was away from Ornstein just for a short time, yet they got him in that few moments.
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>>4927055
he might have hold them off a little, if she didn't take his only weapon
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>>4927051
I'm curious how much can you do with mortal Ki. The moment somebody dies that person's Ki vanishes completely. It seems it is something fundamental to life forms.

So by altering how Ki flows in a growing organism maybe you could alter how it will develop. If Karn altered how his Ki flows in his body maybe he would able to alter in some way how is organism works?

I'm just curious because while Ki Blasts and Ki Swords are very impressive, Ki seems also connected to nearly all functions of a living being.

In fact when you look at Karn Jr he is a result of unusual energies flowing through his developing organism. Non other Saiyan was born like him. Meloka was in Super Saiyan 3 while being pregnant. It proves that different Ki may alter development of a growing life.

So this topic of influencing the life itself with Ki energy seems like something with big potential, though rarely focused on.

And in more battle related zone if one could develop an attack that heavily disrupts other being's Ki flow it could be something of a touch of death depending on how fast it would work.
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>>4927079
True.
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>>4926860
Yes, and also no. She knows how long you can stay before it starts “sticking” to you, and would reveal the timeline she’s hiding in when you go back to your own. The time dedication needed for such training to even begin showing results is more than you can give. Maybe if Mechikabura wins and upholds his promise, and you can spend all your time with your full family gathered in one place.
>>4926905
It is not a good idea to improperly channel the might of an Oozaru. >>4926927
Berserker and Ascended, did not say for 3
>>4926930
She has plenty. Angel of Mercy and Smiling Angel in your own timeline, Golden Child to the Darkwraiths(as Super Saiyan’s aura beats out the Darkwraith aura), and several others you haven’t heard yet. Including a few spoken in text on Chaya’s streams.
>>4926933
Practicing Hamon isn’t a bad idea, but using it constantly is.
Having a trump card is always good, but two is even better.
>>4926934
>I was hoping to see that fight.
Who said you won’t? Just because it won’t be this second epilogue doesn’t mean it won’t happen. I enjoyed the hell out of their match.
>>4926943
It is, but at the same time exactly described the technique. Have your body shrouded in energy, Energy Body. It isn’t something articulated like armor, like the suit Chilli developed before moving onto magic.
>>4926958
She wasn’t physically there, as being a Guardian she cannot leave her planet except on official business to the heavenly realm. But she was able to see it, all of it. You even witnessed the technique yourself.
>>4926984
Older Caulifla, in her built glory.
>>4927006
You’ll learn a bit more of SKoT, Dumplin, and Mechikabura’s combined past. And how this greater timeline came to be.
>>4927032
Ki flows through all living things. Yes, to an extent.
>>4927055
Ganks do be like that. Dishonorable scrubs.
>>4927079
Unfortunately, she left Triumph’s range without realizing it. Had she been within that distance, it’s wings would have shielded him from virtually any non-Stand attack.
>>4927100
Yes. Ki is the energy of being, muscles working and keeping your body functioning.
This is dangerous territory. You do not know the possible effects of altering the fundamental prerequisite for living.
In the case of Karn Jr, this is relatively straightforward. He was born into a heightened state, due to his parents(namely Meloka) from conception to birth existing in a heightened state of being. Her transformation affected his unborn body(which is why that one never-born child died, the stress of going to and from Super Saiyan 3 was far too much for a fetus), boosting it to a heightened form above other Saiyans.
>And in more battle related zone if one could develop an attack that heavily disrupts other being's Ki flow it could be something of a touch of death depending on how fast it would work.
This isn’t something Karn would be able to develop, at least without a mentor and SERIOUS dedication above everything else.
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>>4927408
>She has plenty. Angel of Mercy and Smiling Angel in your own timeline,
Pretty natural, she's a precious little ray of sunshine, and if it wasn't for her war priestly ways, I would have pegged her as a Magical Girl that doesn't have the dark twist most have these days.
>Golden Child to the Darkwraiths(as Super Saiyan’s aura beats out the Darkwraith aura),
Pretty good, even if her convoluted timey wimey stuff means she's an urban legend depending on when she shows up.
>and several others you haven’t heard yet.
Oh well that should be interesting
>Including a few spoken in text on Chaya’s streams.
Do we need to have a chat with our crew on inappropriate names for our White Mage? And then trips to obliterate some planets?
>Older Caulifla, in her built glory.
Poor girl wishes for the position little spoon, but is too big for it. And no one has the balls to try for her.
>You’ll learn a bit more of SKoT, Dumplin, and Mechikabura’s combined past. And how this greater timeline came to be.
Finally, this mystery has been hanging around forever.
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>>4927408
>Including a few spoken in text on Chaya’s streams.

>chaya does a tandem stream with cauli about something or other
>at some point some dude pops into chat: Is the big woman still here?
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>>4927430
It's better that Saiyans only occasionally show up in Lordran.
Can you imagine a Saiyan with the Undead Curse? They'd be almost unstoppable.
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>>4927546
That would be horrifying, and we still have kids with Meloka after the exposure, sure Aku cleaned us, but it left a mark.
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>>4927554
Yeah I was kinda wondering about that. Aku DID clean us, but I have to wonder if any of our kids might end up having an affinity for the Dark.
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>>4927558
Chilli learned it, Caulifla has been around Undead for years now, our twins seem to be their own thing. What about our kids with Towa?
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Time to relax

>>4927430
Who said magical girls AREN’T war priests, or at least paladins?
Very true. They never know when she’ll appear.
You all know one of them; as you all have used it. You just did as well, she is the White Mage.
We’ll see. Between being both a ray of sunshine and an absolute unit, she may have a line of hopeful suitors in her future.
Not answering ALL the questions, but you may see more of everyone’s different plans.
>>4927487
HA. Also, once she hits puberty, will get a lot of
>step on me mommy
>death by snusnu
And other such comments.
>>4927546
They aren’t a common sight.
>>4927554
>>4927558
No. Like a spoiled brat, he took his Dark and went home. Karn is Dark-free. Chilli, however...
>>4928483
The half-demon half-Saiyans are Demonic, not Dark.
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>>4928523
>Who said magical girls AREN’T war priests, or at least paladins?
I, uh, can't argue that fact...hmm.
>You all know one of them; as you all have used it. You just did as well, she is the White Mage.
Considering the universe, I have a hard time figuring out if its legit or a game term.
>Between being both a ray of sunshine and an absolute unit, she may have a line of hopeful suitors in her future.
And any that dare make her cry will be smote by the Karn clan and the Gods. There will be no mercy from their wrath.
>Not answering ALL the questions, but you may see more of everyone’s different plans.
Good.
>HA. Also, once she hits puberty, will get a lot of
>step on me mommy
>death by snusnu
>And other such comments.
And they will be shown a live feed of Karn looking them in the eyes.
>No. Like a spoiled brat, he took his Dark and went home. Karn is Dark-free. Chilli, however...
Oh yeah, Chilli does have it in him....what's gonna happen to him and Megu's kids?
>The half-demon half-Saiyans are Demonic, not Dark.
I know that, I meant if there was any Dark residue there too.
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>>4928523
It's been a hot minute since I touched anything fromsoft makes, so I can't remember. How do Demons of Izaleth react to Dark? Does it corrupt them like everything else it touches, or does their connection to the false flame (the flame of chaos) protect them from it in some way?
Man, pyromancy is actually vastly underappreciated by the lorefags I reckon.
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>>4928601
Well, we see the undead need to be seeped in Dark, and it does turn into a tangible thing after awhile, but the Chaos Flame, until the end of the game, was always on. So maybe the Dark couldn't really affect demons because it was constantly being burned out of them? Dark is considered cold, so maybe when enough is accumulated they turn into those rock spewers in DS3?
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>>4928607
I do know that one spider bitch ate humanities without a problem and actually healed up because of it. Maybe the flames of chaos just eat the fuck out of dark without giving a shit?
Checks out with its nature of consuming practically everything it touches.
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>>4928615
Feed enough to her and she mends, so what happens in so much is put in a demons body it shuts down? Like, the Dark is so infused into reality that it's leaking out of the walls, into the water, the damn sun, demons need rekindling with the Old Demon King, and the one we do see alive before that outside the dreg heap is an old man, sitting in a mass grave with some giant bone worm thing outside it. Gwyn must have assumed it was a total failure and didn't notice the implications of the Demon's not be affected by Dark. Having them at their peak eat the Dark would have been way more effective.
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>>4928523
>And other such comments.

>User: Peak_Seeker_69 has joined the stream
>Peak_Seeker_69: Yo I want to climb the mountain that is Chaya's sister
>user "Peak_Seeker_69" has been banned - reason: Caulifla is too pure for your shenanigans thirst-boy

The waifu wars will only intensify in the stream world.
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so completely random thought, but what if caulifla falls for some darkmoon clown?
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>>4929162
Sorry but clowns are super taboo for this family.

That'll be funny when we get to the ToP and see that one whatever the fuck he was who looks like a clown.
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So apparently even Broly can get in on “Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker” in SDBH.

At least we know that could have been an option if we chose not to become THE BIGGEST GREEN. Knowing us we’d aim for Apex instead but it’s a choice we would have had access to.
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>>4928590
Why not both?
And that’s implying she wouldn’t Smite them first.
He uses the Dark, and presumably has a tight grip on his magic. We’ll have to wait and see.
No, demonic and Dark are MOSTLY incompatible, without divine demonic ki.
>>4928601
They don’t appear to be affected by Dark the same way humans and their derivatives are.
>>4928625
They seemed to have gone out of control with the advent of Chaos, as Gwyn’s knights tried fighting the Chaos back. And failed, as they’d failed to stop the encroaching Dark.
>>4929049
Ha. The mods know the fine line between jokes, harmlessly horni, and actually speaking offensively about their boss’s kids.
>>4929162
Karn would probably wish her well. Wouldn’t be the first of his kids to go outside their species.
>>4929402
God of Destruction Belmond, yes. But Chilli’s reaction may be better.
>>4929845
Yes. When Broly is strong enough that his Primal matches both Mira and Xeno Goku’s, him going to that next level(thanks to demonic influence) was strong enough to fight Vegitos. Yes, TWO Vegitos at once, Blue and Xeno.
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The fan interlude I mentioned last week is coming along well, in case anyone was curious.

I decided to go with digging into the history of Cold, Frieza and Cooler's clan, as well as depict the Ancient Saiyans. Here's a snippet.
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>>4930631
Cringe.
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SOON
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QM UPDATE

Reminder, there will be NO new Saiyan Conqueror Quest this weekend, as I’m on vacation. Next Saturday we’ll resume, at our usual time. In the meantime, I’m on the sixth post of this second epilogue now, and it’ll be out either tomorrow or monday so stay tuned for that.
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>>4930710
Have a good time. I'd say get some sun, but you're a farmer and get plenty. So I'mma go with find the good booze and drink it slooow.
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>>4930710
Have a good vacation GD, don't get blackbagged.
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>>4930901
>don't get blackbagged.
At first I laugh. Then I look at the state of things and I worry.
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>>4930971
Its always a joke till the coup mouthpiece talks about catching dissenters.
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>>4930631
>Cooler's POV
>Anon's fan fiction based on GD's fan fiction.
I'm curious about this.
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>>4930710
>I’m on vacation
Enjoy this time. I hope it's great.
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>>4930631
Looking forward to it, anon.
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>>4930631
Pic related I reckon.
>>4930730
>>4931139
It’s been a great week so far, headed back home late tomorrow. Needed this time with family.
>inb4 n4s family memes
>>4930901
>>4930971
>>4931001
We aren’t worried about some alphabet soup morons, they glow in the dark. And would get disappeared down at the bottom of the lake too.
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>>4931552
Based GD, enjoy your break.
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>>4925237
A bit late, but you know Gogeta's just permanently in Limit Breaker, right? Goku even straight out says so in the Heroes manga.
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QM UPDATE

Rough draft of this upcoming epilogue is complete! Once I’m back home, it’ll be time to see why the once Dark King is so interested in you.

>>4931558
It’s been a good time.
>>4932236
That’s like saying Vegeta Blue’s Limit Breaker and Xeno Vegeta’s Limit Breaker are the same forms, because both have been called a limit breaker.
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>>4932265
But Goku here is specifically saying that it's the same thing as what Gogeta in Super Saiyan 4 had.
He's making a direct comparison to Gogeta.
He's not just calling the form "Limit Breaker".
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>>4932265
>Vegeta Blue’s Limit Breaker
You mean Blue Evolution, which is an evolved form of Super Saiyan Blue, that's still a Super Saiyan Blue form?
In that case, yes they are similar. They're not the same form, because thinking that is outright retarded, but they're both forms beyond that of the base that's still considered part of the same base. Like how Mastered Super Saiyan is still considered Super Saiyan.
Also, you literally have an image of Goku saying the form they're in is the exact same thing as Gogeta.
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QM UPDATE

And this is why you rent a vehicle, and don’t skimp on taking the full coverage for longer trips. This will cost me nothing but the bit of time putting the spare on takes, and taking it to a shop to put a full-size back on it.

>>4932273
>But Goku here is specifically saying that it's the same thing
No, he’s saying that like Gogeta, breaking through the limits of Super Saiyan 4. The how they achieved it, and he forms they took however are different. It’s like saying that Gohan’s Ascended, Vegeta’s Ascended, and Future Trunks’ Ascended states are all the same form because they broke through the limits of Super Saiyan.
>>4932281
>but they're both forms beyond that of the base that's still considered part of the same base
Yes, exactly. Just because they have the same base, does not mean that they become the same form when going beyond.
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>>4932365
>It’s like saying that Gohan’s Ascended, Vegeta’s Ascended, and Future Trunks’ Ascended states are all the same form because they broke through the limits of Super Saiyan.
Are you trying to claim that Vegeta's, Trunks' and Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 are all different forms? Because that's absolutely fucking retarded.

>Yes, exactly. Just because they have the same base, does not mean that they become the same form when going beyond.
Yes. An advancement of Super Saiyan Blue is not the same thing as an advancement of Super Saiyan 4.
However, all the official material and content says that SS4LB is the same as Gogeta. You have Goku saying it outright even.
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>>4932365
>>4932395
As much as I wanted GD to be wrong, it turns out he’s probably right. I can’t find any source that says Gogeta’s SS4 is Limit Breaker.
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>>4932428
Except you know, Goku saying it right here >>4932236 .
Or the fact that in official material, alternate forms are literally spelled out as alternate forms.
Or the fact that Limit Breaker gives them the same shade of hair. Which according to GDQM here >>4925237 means they're the same thing.
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>>4932395
By 'Ascended', I'm pretty sure he's referring to Super Saiyan Two, Super Vegeta, and Ultra Super Saiyan here to try and prove a point that just because it's an upgrade of a form, doesn't mean it's the same new form. All three were called ascended versions of Super Saiyan, after all.
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>>4932395
I’m saying their Cell saga Ascended forms. Super Vegeta, Ultra Trunks, and Ascended Gohan were ALL evolutions past Super Saiyan. But just because they all came from the same form doesn’t mean they’re the same.
>However, all the official material and content says that SS4LB is the same as Gogeta.
Where? I have seen no one besides you claiming this
>You have Goku saying it outright even.
No. He’s COMPARING it to Gogeta, as both had achieved a level beyond 4. But they’re different forms, as one has divine ki and the other does not.
>>4932428
If they were the same, it would have been mentioned when the form was introduced, or shortly thereafter.
>>4932445
Oh you’re trolling, got it. Wasn’t sure at first, but you got me. I know us dragonball fans have a reputation of not being able to read, but still.
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>>4932456
>I’m saying their Cell saga Ascended forms. Super Vegeta, Ultra Trunks, and Ascended Gohan were ALL evolutions past Super Saiyan. But just because they all came from the same form doesn’t mean they’re the same.
What you're trying to compare is Super Saiyan 4, Full Power and Limit Breaker. By saying Gogeta couldn't have been naturally in limit breaker because Super Saiyan 4 and Full Power are different things.

>>4932456
>No. He’s COMPARING it to Gogeta, as both had achieved a level beyond 4.
He's literally saying:
>Remember when we fused, it's the same as this power, breaking the limits of super saiyan 4.
I mean, I get that you're an ESL, but still.

>But they’re different forms, as one has divine ki and the other does not.
Show me where it says they're different forms. Show me any official material that backs anything that you're claiming.

>Oh you’re trolling, got it.
>If I call them a troll while I'm being proven wrong, it means I'm right.
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>>4932456
>Super Vegeta, Ultra Trunks, and Ascended Gohan were ALL evolutions past Super Saiyan.
No, they weren't.
Super Vegeta and Ultra Trunks were both forms that allowed for more of the natural power of Super Saiyan to be brought about, though were both inferior to Mastered Super Saiyan in every sense.
The only one of those forms that is actually an evolution past a normal Super Saiyan is Super Saiyan 2.

>He’s COMPARING it to Gogeta, as both had achieved a level beyond 4.
He's saying it's the same.
Your headcanon form doesn't exist.
Limit Breaker does not use Divine Ki, that's also total headcanon.
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>>4932456
You sounds like a person with a need to be vored, digested with a disposal scene afterward. Question is by a snake or by a dragon? Choices-choices.
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>>4932481
If you keep bringing up vore I'm going to shoot that anon who was all about princess snake way back in SOM's quest to come here and shit all over you with his inane idolatry.
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>>4932487
Shoot him an email I mean. The hell did my words go? Maybe I'm the retard after all.
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>>4932489
Nah, 4chan has been doing that alot lately, not sure why. Gook probably fucked something.
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>>4932481
Now dragon would mirror the nickname to my liking but snake is a promise of adventure, The QM, or There and Back Again. A hard choice indeed.
>>4932487
>>4932489
Hush now. Appetizers don't speak.
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>>4932491
When in doubt, gook the moot. Strange.
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>>4932530
Yep
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>>4932461
>What you're trying to compare is Super Saiyan 4, Full Power and Limit Breaker. By saying Gogeta couldn't have been naturally in limit breaker because Super Saiyan 4 and Full Power are different things.
This’ll be my last one engaging the trolls today, in case anyone actually doesn’t understand. Full Power Super Saiyan 4 was achieved by Goku getting the ki of Gohan, Goten, Pan, and Trunks GT added to his own. Limit Breaker was achieved by Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta by adding the divine ki of Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta, and Xeno Trunks’ Super Saiyan God ki. And Pan was there too I guess. The difference between Full Power and Full Power Limit Breaker is the addition of divine ki into the mix. Whereas with Gogeta, and this point is key: Gogeta’s energy is purely-mortal. But as Goku’s said before they fused, “This is going to be special, I can feel it.” And it was special indeed.
>Show me where it says they're different forms. Show me any official material that backs anything that you're claiming.
Ok:
SS4 Full Power how to:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=so6hwjtwXwQ
Full Power Limit Breaker how to:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hDS0xk5MtPA
Gogeta not needing that:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=epxFFy01dRU
Only one of those forms was achieved by divine ki.
>>4932476
>Limit Breaker does not use Divine Ki, that's also total headcanon.
Watch the video above, it’s only around 8 minutes long once you skip the intros.
>>4932481
Just because you beat off when you write doesn’t mean the rest of us do. Just go to akun already, that kinda quest could get you a decent following with those degenerates as long as you keep a consistent schedule.
4932495
>one post by this id
No you for (you) sweaty.
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>>4932544
Explain Full Power Limit Breaker Broly then, big brain.
Did he also have a divine ki ritual?
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>>4932544
>Only one of those forms was achieved by divine ki.
None of those forms were achieved by divine ki.
Full Power Limit Breaker Broly disproves that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdKVhAjhVaA
All you need is to be strong enough and you can enter the form. Goku and Vegeta needed help boosting their power with a Ki infusion. Gogeta does not.
Also, I want you to notice. Broly goes straight from Legendary into Limit Breaker. There is no transforming up through additional forms, he's just strong enough to be there. Like Gogeta.
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>>4932550
>Explain Full Power Limit Breaker Broly then, big brain.
Mechikabura wields a power known as the Dark Factor, or Black Element. It is the energy of the first Dark King Mechikabura, and a state well above simple Demon Gods. Just a sliver of that power turns a demon into a Demon God, like he does in Heroes with Towa, Dabura, Shroom, etc. Every Demon God exists because of that power that originated with Mechikabura. Not really a stretch to say that this same divine power could elevate Broly as well, especially considering how much more powerful he demonstrably is.
>>4932559
>Full Power Limit Breaker Broly disproves that.
>Broly goes straight from Legendary into Limit Breaker
You mean just like how Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta can from that previous battle with recolored Janemba forward, after given that power? How Broly achieved the form is never shown on screen, just like when he got 4. Or 3 for that matter.
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>>4932570
Evil Ki as wielded by Evil Saiyans and Dark Kings specifically isn't God Ki.
Try again.
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>>4932570
>just like when he got 4.
Now I know you have no idea what you're talking about. How Broly got 4 was shown on screen during JM4.

>Not really a stretch to say that this same divine power could elevate Broly as well, especially considering how much more powerful he demonstrably is.
Evil Ki isn't God Ki. Also, Heroes info cards state that Broly achieved it due to his repeated battles and near-deaths because of them caused him to Zenkai.
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>>4932582
Evil (Saiyan) Ki is clearly, demonstrably different from the Dark Factor. One corrupts Saiyans who come in contact with it, the other can elevate a demon to a demon god or beyond.
>>4932586
>Now I know you have no idea what you're talking about. How Broly got 4 was shown on screen during JM4.
Oh wait, you’re right, I completely forgot about that! Thanks for keeping me honest. Black Smoke Shenron just GAVE him 4 for absolutely no reason other than...? Forget(or is it repressed?) how bad Heroes writing is sometimes, gotta constantly crank out those new forms for new cards, and of course MERCHANDIZING!
>Evil Ki isn't God Ki
Yes, clearly. Also Evil Ki clearly isn’t the Dark Factor either, as the Dark Factor is the energy of the prime Dark King, highest above all the Demon Realm. It is a completely different energy than what’s wielded by one of the two races of ancient Saiyans in the mortal realm.
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>>4932660
GD, that's a fatefag baiting, just ignore the faggot.
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>>4932660
Dark Factor isn't God Ki either. Hell, Dark Factor isn't a type of Ki at all, it's just the Life Force of the Dark King.
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>>4932660
>how bad Heroes writing is sometimes, gotta constantly crank out those new forms for new cards, and of course MERCHANDIZING!

Kettle, nigger there 7 toes.

Your writing is atrocious, I tried reading this garbage while waiting for updates from the other DB quest and nearly threw up. Imagine writing a mexican bootleg fleamarket toy adventure featuring capeshit, jojo, cartoon network cringe etc. Also, you're doing this deadpan and unironically, not even as if it were Ultra Instinct Shaggy vs Gumball tier low brow memes, you're actually being serious and discussing this garbage as if you had more than 3 braincells.

Imagine spending 4 years of your life writing a quest that is indistinguishable to pic related. Furthermore, imagine actively defending it, or calling anyone who calls out this garbage for what it is as a troll. You could have had crossovers with the massive collection of Toriyama canon universes which would actually make sense given the spacefaring capabilities in the DB universe, but instead you have Aku from Samurai Jack because he's your avatar.

Don't even get me started how absolutely idiotic your interpretation of actual canon is too.
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>>4932691
Imagine liking making Sakura Cry.
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>>4932678
I know, but I do enjoy simply arguing sometimes. Even against someone who’s only trying to upset me. Helps me relax.
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>>4932691
>implying every normal not retarded fag here wouldn't pay good money for spider-man to slap the piss out of naruto
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>>4932702
Fair enough,
>>4932703
It would be fucking hilarious watching that retarded traffic cone get his shit stomped. And unlike Neji, Spider-Man wouldn't get tired of beating his ass into a hole and losing by Naruto's bullshit regeneration.
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>>4932707
Even better would be the constant smack talk. Absolutely glorious. No brakes on the vicious mockery train.
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>>4932718
Spidey might not know a lot about the Ninja world, but even he could intuit it out better than the retard that did halfassed strength training instead of studying for class. Then having everything handed to him anyways. Oooh, that would piss Peter off something fierce, Third Hokoge's astonishingly disrespectful negligence towards Naruto and the ass backwards treatment he got from the village that, by all rights, should know who his parents are, not withstanding, would make Spider-Man tear into him with the force of a thousand semi's
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>>4932691
you’ve been at this for weeks now
take your goddamn meds for christ sake
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>>4932759
Don't fucking feed him.
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>>4932748
>I got here all on my own because effort!
>has special bloodline bullshit, demon-fox bullshit, preferential academic treatment from top to bottom, and assorted plot bullshit on his side
Poor Naruto, he was completely wrong about everything the entire time.
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>>4932785
And he didn't even know it until he was told, hell with how Shippuden retroactively paints the start of the series, the way he was treat was so insane that the fact it didn't backfire catastrophically is obscene. Naruto joining Ninja ISIS with Saskue would make more sense then trying to be head office manager. But then Boruto comes around, and Naruto is literally a One Man Big Brother running government by himself and ignoring his family, and everyone is kinda wondering why he is in charge then remember he's a barely emotionally stable Nuke on two legs, and he can wipe out the village by farting too hard. Neji Was Always Right.
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>>4932790
Naruto going full retard evil would have been cooler.
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>>4932795
Bonus points if Sausage and Cheese had reformed during the timeskip, and after killing Evil Snake Pedophile (tm), tried to atone and join the village, eventually fighting Ninja ISIS Naruto after having to rightfully prove his morals and intentions.
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>>4932817
In the ideal timeline, Rock Lee is the protagonist.
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>>4932785
To be fair, 'hard work equals success' as always Lee and Guy's motive a lot more than Naruto.

Plus that shit on his side wouldn't have meant anything if Naruto had been a lazy shit who wasted his opportunities. Innate talent, good teachers, and demon fox energy can't do anything to save Naruto if he had decided to do nothing but eat junk food all day.
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>>4932826
>do nothing but eat junk food all day.

>[laughs in choji]
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>>4932909
Choji has a built in excuse in that his family's techinques require them to all be fat to use.
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>>4932933
He still a snack fiend
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Well, I made it home. So, expect the second epilogue to drop hopefully around 6-7pm EST
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>>4933160
Based, have a good night GD.
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-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 Epilogue II-

MECHIKABURA’S TOWER, EDGE OF TIME

“C’mon, is that all you’ve got?” Super Saiyan 4 Vegito roars, blitzing back towards the fully realized Dark King Mechikabura. The two warriors’ fists smash together, powerful shockwave blasting through the distorted dimension. “I’m still standing!”
“Dammit. Are you alright?” you ask the onxy-scaled dragon wrapped around your dislocated right arm. You are Karn: savior of the Saiyan race, wielder of the powerful Stand Dark Dragon Force, champion of the Tournament of Power, slayer of gods and immortals, and part-time Time Patroller on the side. And right now, you all are engaged in a desperate battle for reality as Mechikabura attempts to undo all of creation, and rebuild it in his image.

“FINAAAL!!” Vegito roars, throwing his arms wide as he flips back away from Mechikabura.
“LAST BLAAAAST!!” Dumplin roars, firing his powerful golden beam at Mechikabura from behind.
“FLAAASH!!!” Vegito roars, his and Dumplin’s attacks smashing into either side of the Dark King. But despite the immense power from both the strongest fusion and the strongest Demon God striking him from either side, he holds each blast back with a single hand each. Which leaves him wide open for a strike from the recently-deified Gotenks.
“HAAAAAAA!!” the fusion of Time Patrollers Trunks and Goten shouts, swinging the golden Key Sword for the joint of Mechikabura’s shoulder and neck. But the Dark King fires beams from his eyes, forcing the fusion to block the hit instead of attacking him.

“I am, but this isn’t good.” your Stand answers, you both watching as Mechikabura reverses both beams back towards their sources. “As Dumplin warned us, Mechikabura is completely unkillable. Any damage we do is instantly healed with all the time he’s absorbed, even my attack on his energy was undone instantly. We have only one shot at this, before he catches on: we have to attack that Dark Factor itself, and take it from him.”
“Alright, but how?” you ask, all three fighters leaping back into the battle with the Dark King. Who simply flares his demonic energy, trying to repel them all, but Gotenks’ weapon seems to be the perfect counter, slicing it apart.

“The dark mass growing out from his chest.” your Stand replies. “The source is there. But we’ll have to hit it with our full, combined power to break through the shell.”
“Then let’s do it.” you say, warily pushing yourself up to your feet. Battling Mechikabura and the turned Supreme Kai of Time, his lesser Demon Gods, and now again after absorbing his lesser minions power to reach this ultimate form, your body is simply starting to hit its limits. But you can’t give in, else everything will be undone. “Let’s end this bastard once and for all!”
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>>4933935
Pushing yourself back to your feet, you grab your right bicep with your left hand, and gritting your teeth, you violently jerk your dislocated arm back into it’s socket.

“SSHHIT!!” you exhale through your teeth, then roll your shoulder a few times to make sure it’s working again. It hurts like hell, but you can still use it. If your right arm is disabled, you can’t utilize Dark Dragon Force to it’s full potential. But now that your arm’s back in the game, you’re ready to fight again. “Dammit, that hurts.”

KABOOOOM

“Bitchin’ about your mortal body being all weak and frail again?” Dumplin asks, rising up out of the newly-formed crater his body’d made. “You’ll never surpass me like that.”
“I seem to remember I won our last fight, after you took Demigra’s Demon God power. Or were you too concussed to remember?” you ask him tauntingly.
“Heh, you wish.” he replies. “Like I’d ever lose to a mortal like you. So, you got a plan?”
“Yes.” your Stand answers, Dumplin glancing down to it. “We strike the Dark Factor itself, and I will steal that power from him, leaving Mechikabura vulnerable.”
“Without that bullshit regeneration, he won’t be able to fight all of us for long.” you continue. “But I’ll need a clean shot.”
“Hold on. Karn, I need you to go help Vegito, and distract Mechikabura.” Chronoa calls. You both turn, seeing her, Tokitoki, and Gotenks with that golden “sword” are all still alive. “The Key Sword isn’t fully charged yet. With mine and Tokitoki’s divine and Time ki, and Dumplin’s Demon God ki all added to it, the sword will be able to seal all of Mechikabura’s power away in one slice. And once he’s weakened, I’ll be able to banish him forever.”

“Whadda ya think?” Dumplin asks you. “Should we follow your plan? Or hers?”
“We’ll go with...” you start, then hesitate, unsure. Your immediate response was to do it yourself, but over the years you’ve come to trust the Time Patrol and Chronoa, despite her flaws and selfish nature. You know what your Dark Dragon Force can do, but the Key Sword was made to seal away the Demon Realm and it’s entities. And despite your lifetime of only trusting your own power, after what happened before, you decide to have faith in the others. Faith that they can do this, and that their power can succeed. “Her plan. I’ll hold Mechikabura back for you all as long as I can.”

“Good luck.” Dumplin replies, racing towards the other three deities as you explode up into the air. Your teal aura flares wildly, mane flowing in the wind as you charge once more into battle: you feel like this is it. Everything you’ve sacrificed, all the time you spent training, all of it will be for naught if you all cannot defeat the Dark King hell-bent on erasing reality before you now.
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>>4933939
“Look at you. Putting your trust in others.” Dark Dragon Force says with an odd tone in it’s voice. But you don’t bother replying, focusing instead on Mechikabura and charging towards him. Vegito and Mechikabura trade punches, the Dark King catching the ultimate fusion’s fist while Vegito takes the powerful shot straight to his face.
“I’m not done yet!” you roar, Mechikabura turning right just in time for your Stand-clad fist to crash against his cheekbone.
“Gaaaah!!” the Dark King shouts in outrage and maybe pain, your blow sending him flying. Mechikabura recovers after a few seconds, stopping himself and glaring at you. “So, you’re both still alive. Looks like I’ll have to put you down for good myself.”

“Not while I’m around!” Vegito shouts from behind Mechikabura as he swings, having used Instant Transmission while he was distracted. But the Dark King isn’t phased, leaning his head aside to dodge Vegito’s fist then throws his head back, skull cracking against the fusion’s nose with a painful-sounding crunch. Blood sprays as Vegito reels back, but before Mechikabura can follow it up you’ve closed to striking range yourself.
“HRRAAAAA!!” you roar, left fist aimed for his jaw. But just before your attack hits he raises his right forearm, taking the attack on his guard. “Tch! GRRRRAAAAA!!”

You twist your body, swinging around so your right shin is aimed at the left side of Mechikabura’s skull. He simply smirks and raises his left arm, falling right into your trap. From the way you’d twisted your body, right arm back, he couldn’t see you gathering a lot of ki into your right fist until you twist, throwing the full power of your hips, shoulder, and arm into a Piercing Fist Mk IV. His eyes widen in surprise as he realizes for just an instant he’d underestimated you, and then the spear of energy hits. The impossibly fine point of ki punches through the former Demon God turned Dark King’s skull with ease, spiraling energy shredding the inside of his head and spraying Dark King blood and brain bits everywhere! But the moment your attack’s over, fist no longer in the space his head used to occupy, it regenerates instantly as if you’d done nothing at all. But you did, however, cleary piss off the Dark King.

“You insignificant maggot!!” Mechikabura roars, dark aura flaring and burning against you. “I will erase your very existence!”
“Not if I erase you first!” you counter, following your right overhead blow with a left uppercut to his jaw. Then before he recovers you spin, turning back kick planted squarely into his chest and sending the Dark King flying. “FINAL FLAAAASH!!”
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>>4933942
Slamming your wrists together, you fire the overwhelming golden beam towards Mechikabura. And were he any other foe, your beam may have ended the battle then and there. But as he takes the attack head-on, you feel his body regenerating faster than your full power can damage him. So after several seconds you end the attack, revealing Mechikabura’s completely fine.

“Was this your best attempt to defeat me?” he asks, chuckling a bit. “You have no chance of winning.”
“Heh. You really think so?” you ask, clenching your fists and gathering your power. Teal aura blazes up around you, as you focus all of your wrath on Mechikabura. You will NOT fall here, Mechikabura will NOT be allowed to defeat you, and erase everything. The universe will NOT suffer the same losses you did! “I WON’T LOSE!!”
“I must admire your determination, Saiyan.” Mechikabura says, casually blasting Vegito away as he tries sneak attacking the Dark King. “It is, unfortunate, that you chose to stand against me.”
“Karn, it’s ready!” the Supreme Kai of Time shouts through the scouter on your head. “Hold him, and Gotenks will end this!”
“But now, you have to die.” Mechikabura continues, raising a hand and gathering demonic energy. A LOT of demonic energy, if that hits you, you’re dead. “Farewell.”
“Makanzopolopolis!!” Dumplin shouts, his spiraling beam of purple and gold blitzing past you and piercing into the Dark King’s attack. His eyes widen in surprise, but before Mechikabura can react further that blast blows up in his face. “I got your back Karn!”

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OmH_wUt2o6g

“GO!!” you roar, blitzing towards the smoke-engulfed Dark King. It’s now or never!
“Yeeeeaaaaahaa!!” Dumplin shouts, the two of you flying side by side as you charge forward. Mechikabura clears the obscuring smoke with a sweep of his hand, then seeing the two of you coming tries to raise his guard. But he’s not ready for Vegito, who’s foot drops in a savage axe kick from behind. Something in Mechikabura’s left shoulder crunches sickeningly, the momentary distraction all you need. As his arm falls limp you dash to his right, grabbing the limb in both arms and bear-hugging it to your chest.
Dumplin stretches his arms, wrapping his elastic limbs around the Dark King’s legs and binding them as Vegito copies you and immobilizes his left. “DO IT!”

“It’s OVER!!” Gotenks bellows, azure blade of the fully-powered Key Sword shining as he leaps towards you all. Mechikabura’s eyes widen in fear for a moment, this is it!
“NO!” the Dark King bellows, suddenly swinging you back-first into Vegito. The back of your head smashes into the fused warrior’s, both of you losing your grip!
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>>4933947
Cringe
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>>4933947
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GcLu4HiVUZo

“D-Dammit!” Vegito shouts, Mechikabura blasting you both away by flaring his dark aura.
“HYAAAAA!!” Gotenks roars, shining blade cutting through the Dark King’s aura as if it weren’t even there. But having to cut his way through that dark power leaves him vulnerable, Mechikabura reaching out and grasping Gotenks’ right wrist with one clawed hand before the fused warrior can hit him with the blade. “What?!”
“This was your final trump card?” Mechikabura asks with a chuckle, clamping down one and shattering Gotenks’ wrist and forearm with one hand while blasting Dumplin away with a shot from his other palm. The fused warrior and Demon God both cry out in pain, but the sword’s bright chains had wrapped around his arm, preventing Gotenks from dropping it while Dumplin falls. “A Key Sword? HA!! Such a thing is MEANINGLESS before what I am now!”

As you see Dumplin crash to the ground, you watch as Mechikabura places his palms on either side of the blade and with a single sharp twist of his hands, shatters the divine relic! The brilliant azure glow quickly fades, shocked silence hanging in the air as the item reverts to it’s previous form in Gotenks’ shocked hands.

“N-No way!” Gotenks says, Mechikabura drawing the shattered blade overhead and preparing to smite the fusion fighter.
“Boys! Look out!” Vegito bellows, his Instant Transmission teleporting himself between the two. Mechikabura immediately swings, cutting Vegito in twain! “GAH! D-DAMMI-!!”

Vegito defuses, the halves reverting back to Goku and Vegeta as the Potara earrings explode.

“HRRRAAAAA!!” Vegeta roars, immediately trying to attack the Dark King. But Mechikabura simply smirks, then with a roar consumes the three warriors inside his dark ki.
“Oh no! They’re not going to be able to resist!” Chronoa says, as sure enough Vegeta, and then Gotenks’ ki become consumed by darkness. Goku, however, is somehow able to resist Mechikabura’s dark corruption, and swings for Mechikabura’s head with a heavy right hand. “Goku no! Get back!!”
“HAAAAAA!!” the clearly-corrupted Gotenks roars, grabbing their former ally and swinging him in a circle once, twice, then on the third spin pitches him to the ground by you and Dumplin. Goku crashes down, but immediately flips back up to his feet.

“Tch! Dammit!” he snarls, golden aura blazing as he prepares to leap back into battle.
“Wait, Goku!” Chronoa shouts, but he doesn’t hesitate and blasts off. “Without the sword, you can’t stop him now!”
“He can’t. But Karn can.” Dumplin tells her with a smirk, then blasts off after Goku without explaining further. You feel her glare on your back, but don’t bother answering. It’s now or never.
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>>4933954
“Let’s end this.” you say, clenching your right fist. You and Dark Dragon Force share a nod, your Stand’s eyes blazing with crimson fire.
“Karn? What are you going to do?” Chronoa asks, sounding concerned. “What can you do?”
“What I should have done in the first place.” you reply, teal aura blazing to life around you as you leap into the air towards the Dark King Mechikabura as well. “Stand back. I’ll finish this myself.”
“Wait, Karn!” she shouts, but otherwise doesn’t try to stop you. Ignoring Goku battling Dark Vegeta, and Dumplin battling Dark Gotenks, you charge headlong at the Dark King.

“And still, you refuse to surrender. I must applaud your determination and unconquerable spirit, Saiyan.” Mechikabura says, creating a spear of absolute blackness and hurling it down. “But, you must fall!”
“HRRRAAAAA!!” you roar, charging directly into Mechikabura’s attack as Dark Dragon Force suddenly expands. Your Stand expands, shrouding you inside it’s onyx body just as Mechikabura’s attack strikes. Your Stamd absorbs the attack, adding that power to its own and accelerating your joint charge. “HAAAA!!”
“GRRRRRROOOOOOOAAAAAAAAR!!” Dark Dragon Force roars, the two of you closing the distance. Mechikabura’s too stunned to act, and as one you and your Stand strike. Your fist slams into the Dark King’s chest, and an instant later your Stand’s fangs chomp down and take hold. And suddenly you feel it! A rush of energy, quite unlike anything you’ve ever felt before begins coursing through your veins, rapidly filling you with that strange aura. As you begin absorbing in the Dark Factor, thanks to Dark Dragon Force, Mechikabura actually cries out in pain!

“GYAAAAAH!” he shouts in shock, then glares at you and your Stand. “N-No! I will NOT be stopped! No more games! I’m destroying EVERYTHING!! NOW, DI-GUUH?!!”

You suddenly feel it too, as a shock runs through your entire body. Both your own energy and Mechikabura’s both immediately begins plummeting, the two of you sharing a confused look as the realization neither of you is the cause of this sensation settles in. But what is this?

“What are you doing?!” you hear Dumplin shout, turning and seeing a terrifying sight! Chronoa, the Supreme Kai of Time, is holding a ball of Hakai energy to THE Time Scroll! The one from which all others were made, and derived from. Every fight has stopped, you all looking to her with panic. “Stop, you kill them all!”
“A price I’m willing to pay.” she answers, shoving the Scroll inside the ball of Hakai. As she does, everything around you all begins disintegrating. “Mechikabura, your evil will NOT be allowed to prevail! No matter the cost!”
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>>4933958
“Dammit!” you snarl, clutching at your chest with both hands as intense pain wracks your body. Even Dark Dragon Force bellows in agony as it lets Mechikabura go while spasming, Hakai able to destroy even Stands. But who’s energy was it? “Not like this!”
“Chronoa! You BITCH!!” Dumplin shouts, trying to rush the Time Kai. But she’d set her defenses while the rest of you were fighting, clock-shaped sentries firing concussive blasts that knock the Demon God back.
“You think this will stop ME?!” Mechikabura asks her, as he begins chuckling to himself. “Foolish Kai. This will only delay my inevitable rise to glory!”

“Karn, we have to get you out of here!” Dumplin shouts, blitzing torwards you at full speed in a panic. “C’mon, hurry! Put this Time Ring o-huh?”
“Foolish.” Mechikabura says, the ring disintegrating into motes of purple light as the Hakai consumes everything takes it as well. “Everyone connected to this timeline will be erased. There is no escape, I’ve already tried. She has killed this version of us all.”
“Wait, this version...” you say, suddenly getting an idea. If this works, you still won’t survive. But maybe another version of you can get revenge on this damn Time Kai! “Dark Dragon Force! Shunt your darkness, quick! We don’t have much time!”

“Of course. GRRRAAAAA!!” your Stand snarls, and suddenly splits! One dragon is seemingly made entirely of shadows, while the one bound around your right arm is now clad in gleaming crimson scales. Dark Dragon Force is no more, and has returned to being Divine Dragon Force! “Now, what is your wish?”
“Free at last!” the dark dragon roars, and dashes towards Mechikabura. However, you see Dumplin dash between them, mouth open wide, and eat that dark energy whole!
“You DARE steal my power?!” Mechikabura shouts, the two exchanging heated words but you can’t focus on them. Your memories are fading fast, you know what you must do.
“Divine Dragon Force! I make my final wish!” you say, seeing your body has actually begun disintegrating as well. So you speak your last wish, and with a roar full of pain and sorrow, Divine Dragon Force vanishes. You feel content, knowing that traitorous Kai will get what’s coming to her.

“What did you do?” both Chronoa and Dumplin ask suddenly. Ignoring the Kai you turn to your friend, and give him a small smile.
“I’ll be back, some day. Wait for me.” you tell him, then turn and face Chronoa. “And you. You’ll get what you deserve, traitor.”

And the last thing you see, before disappearing forever, is the look of shock, worry, and fear on that traitorous Kai’s face. You hope that, one day, she’ll get exactly what she deserves.

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 159 Epilogue II End-
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>>4933958
>“Stop, you kill them all!”

Cringe.

Dumb esl spicmonkey
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I don't really think she did anything wrong here.
In fact, she kind of obectively did the right thing imo.
Can't blame her for Karn being too weak to get the job done.
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>>4933988
>Can't blame her for Karn being too weak to get the job done.
Karn was literally in the process of doing just that.
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>>4934005
Sounded to me like he was in the process of failing to do just that.
I don't see this as any different as pressing the Zeno button.
The heroes were too weak to get the job done.
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Oh, precious backstory. The lore dump is complete. Neato
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>>4933969
So Karn DID save himself, I was half right a few threads ago.
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>>4934026
>complete
Not quite yet.
>>4934056
Not himself, that Karn was erased forever. But he did save his Stand
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>>4934067
So, is that iteration of Divine Dragon Force it's own entity now?
Or did it just latch onto another Karn?
...Are we that Karn?
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>>4934078
Well, we know for a fact Dragonforce can be passed from one user to another. I'm pretty sure that was his wish, to pass Dragonforce to another version of himself... Which would likely have been us, when we suddenly ass-pulled Dragon Fist out of nowhere.
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>>4934021
>As you begin absorbing in the Dark Factor, thanks to Dark Dragon Force, Mechikabura actually cries out in pain!
>“GYAAAAAH!” he shouts in shock, then glares at you and your Stand. “N-No! I will NOT be stopped! No more games! I’m destroying EVERYTHING!! NOW, DI-GUUH?!!”
>You suddenly feel it too, as a shock runs through your entire body. Both your own energy and Mechikabura’s both immediately begins plummeting, the two of you sharing a confused look as the realization neither of you is the cause of this sensation settles in. But what is this?


Pretty clear Karn was doing just fine. Mechi was taking damage, and didn't have any idea of how to counter. Plus, the thing that finally threw Karn off was none other than Chronoa's shenanigans.
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>>4934067
So what would have happened to that Karn if Chronoa hadn’t interfered and he was successfully able to steal the Dark Factor from Mechikabura?
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>>4934090
It's pretty clear he was about to do some bullshit before Chronoa interrupted them both.
The real question is why she had a retard moment and didn't just throw the Hakai Ball at Mechi when he was stunned and drained.
Supreme Kai of Time did nothing wrong aside from that though.
Also even if he succeeded in absorbing the Dark Factor it would've just made a new Dark King and wouldn't have solved any problems.
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>>4934067
>Not quite yet.
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>>4934078
Without knowing his last wish, it is impossible to know yet.
>>4934089
Well it was a wish. Hard to say what you could wish for, without worrying about it ending your life.
>>4934090
It was working just fine. He was about to attack Karn, and without seeing the attack you’re unsure what it would have done.
>>4934095
He’d already stolen quite a lot of it. Which Dumplin then absorbed, on top of the dark energy his Stand had absorbed before, and that’s how he became the one Demon God in the new timeline outside Chronoa’s influence.
>>4934097
Beings with enough raw power can resist a Hakai. And the single-strongest non-Destroyer entity, ballsy enough to step up before two Zenos and the Grand Priest most certainly qualifies.
>>4934098
There’s more to this story
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Hah. Maaaaaaaaaan. Maaaaaaaaaaaan. Chrona fucked up. She fucked up hard. Dumplin was try harding to save reality along with everyone else, but because Chrona went full dumbass, he's atleast double if not triple or more crossing her ass.

And we see what Mechi and Dumplin were talking about before, about Karn being a force of Destruction, and being The Real Deal. He reached Berserker God too.

Still, LORE aside, this took care of one of my biggest worries, and that was that the Super Saiyan God Ritual would fuck with Divine Dragon Force because of the Berserker stuff, thankfully it appears not.
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>>4934318
He was originally a Time Patroller, handcrafted by Shenron to save reality. But ever since this, he’s been trying to restore his Karn. Even the Dark Dragon Balls, which Dumplin had absorbed after Mechikabura got his wish to restore his youth and power, could not revive him after his entire timeline got Hakai’d.
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>Old Karn prime literally dies because he actually bothered to trust the time bitch instead of doing Karn shit.
>This might also be why current Karn Prime actually has DDF, because he wants absolutely fucking nothing to do with time bitch and her traitorous bullshit
Interesting as all hell, so did all timelines die because Chronoa couldn't put any braincells together and blew up all the timelines, or was it just the one timeline got instafucked?
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>>4934365
also to add to this, i also like the thought that DDF has an additional form if it eats enough demon ki and can probably do additional cool shit.
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Hm..........something I'm curious about. Did Chrona simply think Karn wasn't going to be able to kill Mechi, and decided to go Full Nuke, which while terrible is sorta understandable....or did she think Karn was going to successfully steal the Dark Factor from him, and end up corrupted by it, or stand against her next?
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>>4934434
Given how surprised she was at the fact that we actually killed one of her alternate timeline counterparts, she may have actually doubted our power.
That's on her being a dumb bitch I guess.
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>>4934434
no she's an idiot who thought karn couldn't do anything relevant, because if she actually thought otherwise she wouldn't actively antagonize Karn and end up getting one of herself killed.
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>>4934365
I can’t reveal the rest of what happened, not yet.
>>4934368
There is more to Divine Dragon Force. However, it can’t use Wish if it takes that Dark form.
>>4934434
Hard to say for sure. She had seen Karn’s power before on other missions, clearly enough to bring him to this final battle against Mechikabura.
>>4934456
>>4934484
She underestimated Karn, and now you see that that’s been a trend.
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>>4934492
>There is more to Divine Dragon Force. However, it can’t use Wish if it takes that Dark form.
it clearly had a really good other function in that form if that Karn wanted to use that form over regular DDF, just interesting thoughts to consider for everyone here.
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>>4934492
>She underestimated Karn, and now you see that that’s been a trend.

>"Well if they aren't a Goku what good can they be? Duh."
ReeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>4934579
Clearly not good enough to stop Mechi.
>>4934492
No but seriously what was the point of bringing Karn if she didn't trust him to do anything?
This is not just OOC, it's plain stupid from the narrative angle.
Like, it's like she brought Karn along for no reason other than to betray him.
I get that you need to set up some silly revenge plot against the Supreme Kai of Time, but was this really the best you could come up with?
Her having a retard moment after her plan just inexplicably didn't work for reasons?
>you’ve come to trust the Time Patrol and Chronoa, despite her flaws and selfish nature.
Oh no no no.
What are you doing?
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>>4933954
>As you see Dumplin crash to the ground, you watch as Mechikabura places his palms on either side of the blade and with a single sharp twist of his hands, shatters the divine relic!
??????????????????????
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>>4934905
Could have just been an all hands on deck moment. Not like there are too many patrollers that are capable of keeping up alongside Vegito and the Dump lord. Take what you can, hope for the best. Inevitably shit your pants when your preferred outcome hasn't come about and go full nuclear.

It may be convoluted but there are a few reasons why Karn would be there.

Besides, it's not like she's known for her good decision making skills. Throwing a fit when things are beginning to go awry is absolutely in vogue for her. At least from what we've seen in the GDverse ourselves.

Seriously though no one has faith in anyone who isn't a Goku, it's nuts.
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>>4934918
The "GDverse" is a retarded nonsensical mess so it's totally in character for characters to do both retarded and nonsensical things.
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^^^ rent free
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>>4934934
Not really, I just want this retard QM to know he's a glue sniffing smoothbrain.
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rent free
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>>4934943
I'll show you rent free.
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>>4934949
For every successive turead of this drivel I read for my research, the more I come to loathe this quest.
I'm going to write the most horrible thing I've ever written for this quest.
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r f
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>>4934905
>>4934951
If you don’t like my quest, well, there is a simple solution. Go. Leave, and find another one more to your liking. No one is forcing you to read what I write, and if you’re not enjoying SCQ then go find something that you will. Or you can start actually running the quest you’d want to play. But the opinions of people who don’t play my quest won’t ever dissuade me from running my quest for my loyal players until the day this story it is finally over.
>>4934937
K
>>4934501
Very true. It allowed an easier defeat of the lesser Demon Gods Mechikabura had defending him while Dark Shenron was restoring his youth and power.
>>4934579
Ha
>>4934914
He says, from a lesser transformation
>>4934956
???
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>>4934985
>He says, from a lesser transformation
About a basic key sword that was unpowered, yes.
That same unpowered key sword was something that he was able to stop with a single finger.
The difference is when he went up against the fully powered key sword as you were using here, he immediately got bisected and sealed by it.
IDK why you insist that Mechikabura is a relevant villain, he got beaten by God Trunks with ease 3 years ago and has since been scaled over by just about every villain introduced after him, especially Hearts and Fu.
He's a nobody.
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>>4933935
>onxy-scaled dragon wrapped around your dislocated right arm. You are Karn: savior of the Saiyan race, wielder of the powerful Stand Dark Dragon Force
Very interesting. For a few moments before it was revealed more about Dark Dragon Force I was thinking that this Karn went a life route so distinctive from ours that he ended up with an entirely different type of Dragon Force. One we never heard of before until this epilogue.
>>4933935
> and part-time Time Patroller on the side.
That shocked me quite a bit.
>>4933969
That was a great epilogue. So many questions answered.
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>>4934905
>No but seriously what was the point of bringing Karn if she didn't trust him to do anything?
The plan that Chronoa had was:
>Set up Mechikabura in a vulnerable position so he can take a hit from Key Sword
>This failed. Mechi did not got hit.
What did Chronoa do then?
>Erase everything.
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>>4934501
>it clearly had a really good other function in that form if that Karn wanted to use that form over regular DDF,
Dark Dragon Force appears to be a little like a black hole for energy, but the power is not gone. It instead empowers Karn and DDF so I guess it's more of an energy leech:
>>4933958
>Mechikabura says, creating a spear of absolute blackness and hurling it down. “But, you must fall!”
>“HRRRAAAAA!!” you roar, charging directly into Mechikabura’s attack as Dark Dragon Force suddenly expands. Your Stand expands, shrouding you inside it’s onyx body just as Mechikabura’s attack strikes. Your Stand absorbs the attack, adding that power to its own and accelerating your joint charge.
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>>4934956
>r f
>>4934956
>???
It may mean rent free.
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>>4934434
>or did she think Karn was going to successfully steal the Dark Factor
Makes me wonder. Maybe possibility of anyone alive having full control over the Dark Factor was worse than erasing all timelines.
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>>4935191
Problem is specifically that Karn did discharge the Dark Factor and then Dumplin ate it, elevating him to his current powerlevel, but Chronoa didn't delete dumplin, so i'm not convinced that was the intention. I think she just genuinely thought there wasn't anything they could do.
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>>4934985
>???

>>4935136
Got it in one, anon. Nice.
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>>4935246
Discharge of Dark Factor happened only as a desperate action when erasure was already going in progress.
>>4935246
>Karn did discharge the Dark Factor and then Dumplin ate it, elevating him to his current powerlevel, but Chronoa didn't delete dumplin
She deleted the scroll and everyone that was connected to this timeline. I may be wrong about this but it was said that Dumplin is not connected like that, so he was not erased like everybody else.
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>>4935268
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>>4935129
Glad you enjoyed, and I hope it left a bunch more questions for you to ponder now going forward. But now you may know both Mechikabura’s angle, and why the SKoT showed up after Karn used his Wish the first time against Lyin’ Eyes Requiem.
>>4935131
Pretty in-character, especially for a bad guy who couldn’t stand losing their position of power to someone else.
>>4935134
>energy leech
Kind of. Almost like Super 17, but far grander in scope.
>>4935191
>>4935246
>>4935293
Undoing all of time itself is a dramatic solution to the problem, but at least two beings were 100% guaranteed to survive it. The Time Kai, who’d been prepared to do it and took steps beforehand, and the being summoned by Shenron from beyond reality who’d ALREADY survived such an event before when Demigra destroyed the Time Nest and all the scrolls stored within.
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I wonder, could our kid's stands have a Dark Evolution upgrade of their own, or is it limited to divines?
And could other, similar forms exist /be accessible through our soul stones?
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>>4935458
>why the SKoT showed up after Karn used his Wish the first time against Lyin’ Eyes Requiem
This had to remind her of Karn's final wish.
>>4933969
>However, you see Dumplin dash between them, mouth open wide, and eat that dark energy whole!
>You DARE steal my power?!” Mechikabura shouts, the two exchanging heated words but you can’t focus on them.
There was a turmoil there. Considering this and that both of them are being uncertain about if our Karn is "the real deal" it makes me wonder if they actually heard what the final wish exactly was?
Did Chronoa paid attention to this moment? Or did she missed it too?
When they ask:
>“What did you do?
It makes me think they missed this.

Since all of this history was erased with the scroll that Chronoa used Hakai on, perhaps there is now no way to witness this moment again. They only have their memories left, but all of them were not paying attention to Karn when spoke his last wish.

This secret he took with himself when he died. If they knew exactly what he wished for, perhaps they would be a lot less uncertain about our Karn and what is happening.
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>>4935458
>But now you may know both Mechikabura’s angle,
Honestly, knowing what we do now, when Mechikabura got into our timeline, and saw our Karns history, he must have laughed until his hips broke. Prime Karn was one of, if not the keys to taking him down once he was Full Power besides a full Time Wipe, and the SKoT had been shoving herself deeper and deeper into the red with Karn simply because she couldn't bend enough to let the guy sit around with his family all day.

Also wait, is Prime Karns Wish, backed up with his full Berserker God power, what caused this timelines initial distortion and prevented our Karn and our team from dying as we should have in the proper timeline?
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>>4935535
>Also wait, is Prime Karns Wish, backed up with his full Berserker God power, what caused this timelines initial distortion and prevented our Karn and our team from dying as we should have in the proper timeline?
I think that is the correct answer.
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>>4935516
Who knows?
Though with Triumph I have to say, that Caulifa's Stand is pretty awesome as it is already. If in the process of change it would lost those really great abilities like:
>Immunity to normal fire
>Rebrith from ashes
>Healing tears
>Transformation and fusion into fire form
That would be a big loss unless new skills would be even better.

What the names could be though?
>Divine Triumph?
>Dark Triumph?
>Triumph Requiem?
>Demonic Triumph?
>Triumph Over Heaven ?

Dark rider:
>Divine Dark Rider?
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>>4935554
>Dark rider:
>>Divine Dark Rider?
Obviously you need to have Korza become a Demon God and get Divine, Dark Souls Type Dark, Rider. Nothing could possibly go wrong there.
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>>4935516
Depends on their Stand, and the allies they have made up to that point.
>>4935524
She may have panicked a bit, potentially.
Dumplin and Mechikabura were physically the closest to him, so if anyone did it would be them
>>4935535
>>4935549
And now you see why he’s been so helpful, and actively supporting you. The fact you have a daughter even stronger than you are right now is icing on the cake.
Possibly.
>>4935554
Triumph is an exceptional Stand, if your goal is not direct combat.
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>>4935622
Oh shit I just remembered, Tarble exists.
How's he handling training under Karn?
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>>4934951
what research
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>>4936178
Ignore him, he's fishing for You's.
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>>4935901
You remember maybe but Grand Retard QM forgot that character existed because his brain is a slurry.
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>>4935901
He’s struggling
>>4936259
Clearly doesn’t know how to read, sad.
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>>4936433
>He’s struggling
I'd ask for numbers, but that would be telling I think.
Though that's not quite as important as some other things.
For instance, is he actually learning how to fight properly?
Last I remember, Tarble was timid and full of hesitation.
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>>4936433
So at this point what's stopping Chronoa from recuiting her own Karn again to counter us? I think at this point it's obvious that WE are the result of the previous Karn's final wish. Or is she still hesitant because she doesn't know what the wish actually was and doesn't know if it only affects us or if it affects all Karns?
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>>4935622
>Triumph is an exceptional Stand, if your goal is not direct combat.
I think it would be quite alright for this too.
>Heavy battle, Karn inflicts damage, but also takes a hit that causes some injury.
>"I'm going to have to fix it after the fight in a healing pod."
But if Karn had Triumph he could heal it right there in the middle of combat. This is a massive benefit. Triumph may not have some very attack oriented abilities, but what it has is a great addition to somebody who is in a battle. It's other abilities would work fine with how Karn fights.
>Like for example when Triumph's wings act as a shield.
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>>4936433
>He's struggling
Well, at least it sounds like he's putting in effort.
>>4936551
Pretty sure Triumph can't heal its user.
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>>4936566
>Pretty sure Triumph can't heal its user.
You are right. I forgot about that. Then disregard that post >>4936551 I made. It's incorrect.
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>>4936566
>Pretty sure Triumph can't heal its user.
>[laughs in auto-revive]
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>>4936495
Probably because all known timeline Karns are probably splinters of ours as far as anyone is aware of from the way Karns across timelines have been explained in this quest so far. Our Karn is current Karn Prime, and REALLY has no reason to like the time nest or most of it's denizens, so why would any of the offshoots of our Karn care about the time nest either? In addition to this Chronoa has no damn clue what That Karn's wish was, what she does know is Our Karn is strong enough to kill her, and if he lands a killing blow she can do literally fuck all about it, in addition she has to know at least something about Karns personality if she used to have one around, Karn seems to be extremely consistent on how he acts regardless of the timeline.
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>>4936488
Remember, King a Vegeta’s also training his brother personally.
>>4936495
An actual good question. However, there is a reason she hasn’t had success there...
>>4936551
Triumph cannot heal it’s user with it’s normal healing ability, similar to Crazy Diamond. It is a useful Stand, and can deal damage with it’s fire. But Triumph is more a utility/survival Stand.
>>4936566
He is doing that, his brother’s massive power motivating him.
>>4936603
It can’t use the healing tears that can heal injuries on the user.
>>4936651
Most Karns die out either on Kvir’s Moon, where you were supposed to, or when Freeza destroys Planet Vegeta. As for those from your divergent timeline, well... You’ll have to wait and see.
Karn is a consistent character, once becoming an adult and working for Freeza for years.
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>>4936873
>It can’t use the healing tears that can heal injuries on the user.
>[LAUGHS EVEN HARDER IN SUICIDE FOR SELF HEALS]
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>>4936878
You forget the part where her stand goes dormant for a considerable amount of time afterwards.
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>>4936895
I wouldn't be surprised if the "-HIDDEN" listed on her stand's info page is some kind of condition (possibly negative) that activates after coming back.
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>>4936895
If you need to die twice to beat someone you shouldn't be fighting them in the first place.
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>>4936911
>If you need to die twice to beat someone you shouldn't be fighting them in the first place.
Tell that to Trunks.
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>>4936915
Yes. He clearly should not be fighting Karn. And he keeps doing it. Because he's a retard.
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>>4936878
It is a viable strategy against non-Stand users, but having Triumph go dormant could be bad.
>>4936911
>>4936915
>>4936917
True enough.
>>4936943
>apparently failing to actually destroy anything despite nuking the time scroll??
>trolls can’t read
Lmao
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No, you and your one post by this id are holding that shit take today
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>>4936943
Why did you delete this?
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I really love that Mechikabura is only interested in karn because of what happened in a timeline that Mechikabura was erased from entirely along with karn.
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I feel that it's pertinent to remind everyone of global rule 3:
>3a - troll posts are not permitted outside of /b/
If you see clearly inflammatory posts meant to bait the users of the thread, then silently report them and move on. Do not engage with them, or announce that you've reported them.

That reminder out of the way, I wonder what the life of Erased Karn was like. Did he too have a family? Certainly not the same family, with this one not associating with time breakers and all.
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>>4936996
Reporting doesn't matter if he's just gonna change his IP every couple of hours.
>I wonder what the life of Erased Karn was like
It sounds like he had it pretty rough, something bad must have happened for him to be so distrustful of his allies up until that point.
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>>4937007
He wasn't distrustful of all his allies though, just Chronoa. Presumably because she'd shown herself as rather selfish and perfectly willing to use people as pawns up to that point, instead of fighting her own battles. Remember, he and Dumplin were bros.
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>>4937021
Selfish? Perfectly willing to use pawns? Read the manga panel and tell me what's selfish about this person. As a Supreme Kai she doesn't have the powerlevel to handle this shit, how would she fight her own battles? She's a support character who actively supports and sacrifices herself for allies. Even first form Towa shits on her.

In canon Dragonball Heroes, everything is erased during the battle with Mechikabura. Tokitoki then restores everything EXCEPT Mechikabura. Why would this not happen here?
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>>4936651
I'm honestly curious on what's the end goal. Do we wait for them to make a move and kill Chronoa once and for all, or do we take a more proactive approach and end this immediately? And do we care enough to help to find a replacement once the deed is done or just leave time unmanaged?
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>>4937086
>do we care enough to help to find a replacement once the deed is done or just leave time unmanaged?
Pretty sure Mechikabura is gonna handle that.
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>>4936972
>>4936983
>doesn’t know whole story
>makes assumptions
Sad
>>4936976
Who knows? Better yet, who cares?
>>4936996
When has that stopped anyone before?
He HAD a family. He lost them long before the ToP in his timeline.
>>4937044
Gonna delete this post too?
>>4937086
We’ll have to wait and see.
>>4937140
He may well take that mantle for himself. Or perhaps he’ll give that responsibility to a worthy replacement?
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>>4936968
So wait are you a spic or trailer trash? I dunno it sounds like he can't make up his mind. All I have to say is you live rent free in his head
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>>4937163
I dunno, it’s kinda funny to me that I’m being so poorly attacked by one or two players pretending to be from the Fate quest. Either that, or Fate players are just this toxic.
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>>4937180
Funny as it may be, I find it annoying as it distracts from the actual discussion.
And I mean both the discussion here and the discussion our resident shitposter could be having in a quest he actually likes.
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>>4937188
Honestly, I just find it kinda sad. That someone’s life is so empty and meaningless, and the only way they can derive any sort of dopamine hit is from attacking others’ fun. If only they dedicated this sort of effort into something that was actually productive, who knows?
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>>4937180
I'm starting to think he's some f/a/g in denial that his favorite show isn't the greatest narrative of all, so he takes his frustrations to a fanfic as if the source material wasn't already inconsistent and contradictory, very retconned, with lazy world building, all over the place with it's morals, stupid characters for the sake of the plot...
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>>4937180
I’m kinda surprised it took this long to get assmad faggots trying to troll this quest.
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>>4937231
Ha. I don’t browse /a/, so maybe that’s why some of their insults I don’t exactly get? Not exactly sure how they get hispanic out of everything I’ve posted about myself over the years, but it is still kinda funny.
>>4937248
Well one anon went to the Fate thread that was up at the time, and got into arguments with their autists. One of them is either a janny or a mod, or a friend to one, and got that player temp banned and erased all of their posts. So I couldn’t see exactly what happened. The shit-flinging spilled over to /qtg/ as well, which I’m assuming is the actual source of the trolls. Using this recent event to attack me and us, because most of the people posting there don’t even play quests. They spend most of the time reminiscing about dead quests, bitching that the board is dying, and shitting on brand new and old active quests alike.
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>>4937290
>Well one anon went to the Fate thread that was up at the time, and got into arguments with their autists.
Yeah, I watched that happen. Tension between the fatefags and saiyanigger had been building up for a while before they finally got sick of him.
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>>4937290
>Not exactly sure how they get hispanic out of everything I’ve posted about myself over the years
I can explain.
Mexican Dragon Ball fans are notorious for their fanaticism and exceedingly poor judgement when it comes to creating content. It's meant to imply you're a retard with a poor grasp of the material.
Also they're not really paying attention to all of your private details since they're just speed-reading to try and get enough material to farm You's with.
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>4936943
Why did jannies delete this?

>>4936968
Do you have an answer on why she is so horribly ooc in your quest?
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>>4937313
Put name on, Sakurautist.
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>>4937468
Sorry, I’m not into larping as a namefag.
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>>4937313
A shame that it went down like this. But the trolls’ll get bored soon, when their pathetic attempts to annoy me/us fail.
>>4937327
>It's meant to imply you're a retard with a poor grasp of the material.
Well I got that much.
>4937372
We all know you deleted it yourself. Also,
>ooc
>destroys everything rather than “let the bad guys win”
Sounds very in character to me of someone who thinks themself the hero, backed into a corner “with no other options.”
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>>4937619
>>4937619
What purpose would they have to delete that post that you've screenshotted? It was clearly a jannie trying to earn his salary. Pretty funny you've gone and circumnavigated the jannie and left up more evidence as to why you're a hack.

As for Chronoa, she's a timejannie who lives a hollow existence watching everyone she has ever known grow old and die, including Kai which have a lifespan of about ~5 million years. How does this come off as a simple grug hero to you, retard? Is everything in your foldless monkey brain "good guys" and "bad guys"? She had plenty of options, the Key Sword destroys Mechikabura for one, and the time bird just undoes any damage done. Contrary to what your headcanon seems to think, Xeno Trunks handles this issue. Going off that manga panel, she'd sooner sacrifice herself before ever doing something as retarded as you'd have her do. Why the fuck would someone sworn to protect reality who lays down her life in this very endeavour choose to destroy it you absolute smoothbrain?

You've failed to refute any of the points presented, and every time you yry you nust double down on your ignorance of canon and characterisations. Try harder, cletus.

>>4937468
Rent free, saiyanigger. Nice of you to show yourself. Is Sakurautist in the room with us right now?
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>4937631
Thanks for the two (you)s, sorry none for you. Why are you constantly switching ids like you’re trying to evade/avoid a ban? Am I not the only QM you’re currently failing to annoy?
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>>4937158
>Or perhaps he’ll give that responsibility to a worthy replacement?
What will Mechi be doing then? Does he sees even the position of Supreme Kai of Time as something beneath him? Does he has even bigger plans?
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Something for fun. How would you classify various characters in our quest according to the Dungeons and Dragons alignments? I have trouble placing Karn into one alignment.
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Bonus: Dungeon Master alignment chart. Where would you place our QM GD?
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I propose the retard crybaby to change his name to "RentFreenon". As it is profoundly clear that he just can't stop coming back. Might as well have a name.
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>>4937830
I’d put him in Lawful Neutral.
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>>4937830
Alignment has always been and will always be a flawed concept incapable of accurately portraying all but the shallowest of characters.
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>>4938119
Think you're missing the point of an alignment chart. But it still only works in D&D where all of that shit is a real and objective concept.

It falls apart SUPER hard when you introduce moral relativism. So like, any setting.
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>>4937932
I would not put him into anything Lawful. I don't remember Karn being super serious about rules. Karn is also not really Chaotic. So Neutral seems to be category that's left.
Though whether to put him into:
>Good
>True Neutral
>Evil
Seems to be complicated.

Anon >>4938119 has a point. This system is too simplified to describe someone properly.
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>>4938135
I mainly put Karn into Lawful Neutral because of his traits of being honorable and reliable. I was torn between that and Neutral Evil.
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>>4938149
That's an interesting point of view. I did not thought about this like that.
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>>4937828
Good question. Right now Karn knows little of his goals, aside from overthrowing Chronoa. Yet, despite being stronger than her he also hasn’t stormed Conton City and removed her yet.
>>4937831
I like this chart. My dm’ll get a kick out of it.
>>4937872
Just respond to it with >
instead of >>, if you can’t resist the bait. I’m done with them now, and focusing more on episode 160. But do try not to feed it from now on guys, without the (you)s, it’ll get bored soon enough.
>>4938135
Karn has his own rules, but they’re pretty basic. Protect your family and kin, follow orders from your superiors, and eliminate with extreme prejudice those who would hurt you or yours. So I’d say honestly, as-written the best fit on the chart is lawful neutral imo. Karn won’t go out of his way to kick puppies or endanger his family and friends for more power, but isn’t going to go out of his way to help those who aren’t his own. He’s a good soldier, not necessarily a good person.
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>>4938166
>Just respond to it with >
Nah. I don't even need to do that. The rat can see when I'm talking about him. And judging by his obsessive behavior he'll have conniptions over the fact that his babby tier bullshit is so easily stonewalled.

Like a small child that can't open a door.
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>this isn't for (You)s
>...but please argue with my shitposting ;_;
lol
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>>4938195
True enough. As the not getting the (you) clearly upsets it.
>>4938196
>I-I’m not desperate for attention!
>Notice me GDQM-saamaaaaa!!
Right? Just the desperation for interaction would be funnier; if it wasn’t so sad.
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>>4927408
>Her transformation affected his unborn body(which is why that one never-born child died, the stress of going to and from Super Saiyan 3 was far too much for a fetus)
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>>4938243
Imagine being such a shit writer you unironically throw a miscarriage arc into DBZ.

Holy kek anon, based.
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>>4938243
Top fucking kek anon
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>>4938243
Bruh. Now THIS is a quality shitpost meme. Saved.
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>>4938243
alright that's fucking funny
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>>4938243
Alright I laughed.
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>>4938243
The smug Cooler really sells it.
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Long shot but has this been incorporated or explained in any way in this game?
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>>4938566
If you mean the transition from black to green to yellow, I'm pretty sure that's just a stylistic choice from the animators.
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>>4938566
What the fuck i never noticed that
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>>4938576
Yeah. Think Goku does it too. It's kind of stupid. As is the sheer amount of effort they put into transforming despite them already being able to quickly and reliably do it. It's a really weird decision.
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>>4938593
It's to inform you (the viewer) that shit is going down and they're dropping the kid's gloves.
Yeah they can just instantly flash into their higher forms without all the yelling, posing, and explosions, but it wouldn't be nearly as impressive looking.
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>>4938600
The problem is I (the viewer) have more than likely had a small brush with Dragon Ball at some point prior. In which case I have probably seen at least three random transformations and the ease at which they are done. It's literally everywhere. It's effectively synonymous at this point. DB and flashy transformations.

It takes me out of it. Like bro why are you struggling to transform into the form you have like a hundred times before? That you can do literally without even moving? That you have mastered to the point that you could actually sleep in the fucking form?

If I were a casual fan I'd still have a similar reaction of confusion. It doesn't matter which media you're familiar with. If it's post Frieza you know they can zap up like it's nothing.

I dunno man. It just seems super unnecessary to me. Like when you're watching a movie and they show a flashback to thirty minutes prior to show something you were just watching thirty minutes ago.

Like shit have them do a big fancy explosion and scream when they transform, don't make it look like the first time Goku went 3 god damn. They're transforming not getting a prostate exam from Dr. Fathands.
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>>4938613

Wasn't that just Goku trying to go into ultra instinct again for the first time since the tournament but failing and just settling with God form?

So it wasn't something he did "hundred of times before"
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We’re finally here, less than 24 hours until episode 160 finally begins! Break time’s about over, and Tanya vs Kars will soon begin!
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>>4939145
soon!
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>>4938243
Nice.
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>>4939145
Can't wait to see it.
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>>4939111
>>4939109
Nice images. I like how it shows all those numerous options related to Saiyans.
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>>4938566
The only explanation I’ve ever seen is, as anon here >>4938576 points out they just wanted to do something flashy with the transformations. As for an in-character reason why, Vegeta was showing off to two other Saiyans that HE, Prince Vegeta, was actually a Super Saiyan of legend! Funniest part of the movie for me was Freeza learning Broly actually COULDN’T transform yet, and he just assumed they could without ever asking because every Saiyan at that point he’d seen in recent years could do it. Even those from another whole universe.
>>4938593
>>4938600
>>4938613
The worst part is, later, Vegeta jumps into the fight and right to Blue as well without any visual effort. And Gogeta even struggles going Super Saiyan, yet in a second he goes blue and Broly goes green without seemingly any difficulty from either. A few nitpicks of the story there from me.
>>4939185
>>4939258
Soon indeed, I’m ready to get back into writing current quest events again. Also, the intermission will probably be the Chaya/Broly spar so we have that to look forward to as well.
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>>4939581
>intermission will probably be the Chaya/Broly spar so we have that to look forward to as well.
I'm looking forward to it.
>>4912524
>He doesn’t understand what she’s become with that Networked Type 101.
Time to see what she has become.

It's been a while, but it's finally SOON.
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>>4939697
It’s going to be fun. For us, but maybe not as much from who’s view it’s told.
Even more terrifying, that’s what.
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>>4939818
Looking forward to it, I need something to cleanse my palette.
This last day and a half have been nothing but frustration and bewilderment.
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>>4939993
This next episode’ll kick off with a bang. It’s going to be fun.
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>>4940005
If Tanya can do some damage to Kars without our help, I'm gonna be oddly proud of her.
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>>4940008
She can do damage, but the real question is will she be able to do damage that isn’t immediately healed after? Also,

SOON
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>>4935554
>Dark Rider
Ghost Rider. What else?
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>>4937831
True Neutral.
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>>4938135
Karn is literally a general in the ruling lords army, you can't get more lawful than that. Bigger question is Good, Evil, or Neutral. All things considered, Lawful Neutral to Lawful Evil, too his allies, the man is literal Saiyan Super Man, and if that isn't Lawful Good, I don't know what is.
>>4938166
That sounds about right as a sum up.
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>>4938243
God damn, I go away for a bit and come back to some really weird shitposting and new memes? Pretty good day.
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>>4939109
>>4939111
....when you step back and look, this series really does have more transformations than Sharingan Eye styles.
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>>4940545
It is a good day. This is going to be fun.
>>4940547
Didn’t watch more than an episode or two, I’ll take your word for it.
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>>4940550
I watched the Shippuden series, and some Naruto fans playing it for a breakdown. Pretty good too, filler arcs not really included.
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Episode 160 is here!
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