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>>5326608
And yet, here you are, in one of the many fortified offices in your secret executive bunker slash catacomb network, wondering where it all went wrong. Documents litter your desk, reporting of troubles domestic or otherwise. While most of these reports are easily dismissable as hearsay, rumors, or enemy psyops, one is actually an executive order. A simple one, to appoint a new secretary for you. It's harmless enough, and you actually know the woman - she's loyal to you.

>SIGN THE ORDER WITH YOUR NAME
>□__________

(Contd.)

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>>5326610
As you put the order through the custom pneumatic cartridge system, you look toward your map wall and sigh. Your once-glorious country, now on the brink of ruin.

But there are four maps. Which one is yours?

>Bordec
A hilly and mountainous land, with temperate forests scattered between the villages and urban areas. Arable land is concentrated on the valleys and riverbanks. The land also forms a natural fortress around your capital, historically dissuading almost all invaders of this land. Abundance of mineral resources prop up your economy.

>Saint Charlotte
A small tropical island archipelago, dotted with volcanos and beaches. The biggest island from which the country's name derived from, Saint Charlotte island, is the agricultural center, while the other two bigger islands, Madrigal and Ellery island, contributes some mineral wealth. Plenty of sea-based resources such as fishing and offshore oil deposits around the archipelago, although your economy also benefited from a small number of tourists seeking pristine beaches.

>Zayyine
A desert nation of contrasts. On the east, the Kharei desert dominates the landscape, with what few settlements there huddling around oases. To the west, the Yaid river blesses its riverbanks with fertile land, and curses with its seasonal floods. Historically the economy had been propped up by agricultural exports of the west side, although in modern times oil deposits in the desert also greatly contributed to the economy.

>Paneira
A tropical equatorial country, most of its northwest side is dominated by the Baitros rainforest, from which the forestry and logging industry contributed a lot towards your economy. The Arepa river meanders through the center, creating a lush wetland and swamp to the south and fertile jungles on its riverbanks. Historically, the swamps had been the source of bog iron, but recently there's a pocket of oil detected under them. A mountain chain to the east became a natural border, supplying some mineral wealth.

>Which one is your country? (Each country has its own set of troubles, choose wisely)
>□ Bordec
>□ St. Charlotte
>□ Zayyine
>□ Paneira

>>5326611
Paneira, time to take care of our banan republic.

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>>5326611
>□ St. Charlotte
WTF Indonesian Gentleman you absolute madman I like the last two options more in theory but I can't not vote for best(?) girl

>>5326610
oh yeah
>LORD SAMUEL EVIL XII
heir of the illustrious Evil family

>SAMUEL CHAINSAW EVIL XII JR. Sam for short.
>Paneira

>>5326611
>Gaole
>Paneira

>>5326610
>SAMUEL CHAINSAW
Without the fluff, leave the fluff for our speeches.
>Zayyine
I'm a bit divided between this and rainforest, but Egypt vibe is the best.

>>5326611
>Paneira
WE'RE GOING TO BRAZIL!

p.s. what are these extra symbols in the vote options, I only see Unicode errors.

>>5326714
They're just squares, they don't mean anything.

>>5326610
>Samuel Chainsaw

>>5326611
>Zayyine

>>5326714
>>5326731

I think they're theoretically boxes to tick/cross to signify them as a voting option.

>>5326611
>Samuel Chainsaw
>Bordec
Bordec seems like the best choice, honestly...

>>5326610
>Samuel Chainsaw
>>5326611
>Paneira
BR time

OP I highly suggest investing in appropriate music, such as the OST of the Tropico games

>>5326735
Seconded

> Zayyine
Like most oil rich countries this is going to be hardcore mode.

As for a name apparently everybody just decided to go with Samuel Chainsaw

>>5326796
But will he have a rogue older/younger half-brother named Bruce Boomstick?

>>5326796
Look at this guy. He looks like if Skeletor was made during WW2. It's not the worst name for him.

>>5326807
absolutely.

>>5326631
Changing my vote for the location from Paneira to Zayyine. Let's go into denial (both kinds!)

>>5326611
>Zayyine

>>5326610
Lord Samuel "Chainsaw Sam" Evil XII.

>>5326610
The Real McCoy; nicknamed “Bones”

>>5326611
>Paneira
Would honestly prefer Bordec or Saint Charlotte, but the last thing I want is to play as a shitty desert nation.

>>5326611
>Samuel Chainsaw
>Paneira

>>5326611
>Bordec
Decimus Steinbrecher

>>5326610
+1 to Samuel Evil, but I think it should be pronounced, like... "eh-VILLE".

>>5326611
Bordec.

Vote cutoff! Tallying and processing.

>>5326611
>BARON SAMUEL "CHAINSAW" E. VILLE IV, SAVIOR OF HUMANITY, MOST HIGH CUSTODIAN OF THE SACRED LAND, SOVREIGN RULER OF THE MOST SERENE LAND, AND CREATOR OF THE AUTOMOBILE.
>PANEIRA

>>5326897
Oops nevermind

>>5326611
>>□ Bordec

Can't vote. Doing it anyways.

...So we're going to cut off our leg/arm/di*k/head and replace it with a chainsaw right?

>>5327275
legs/arms*

>>5327275
Why did you censor dick?

>>5327289
I don't like posting swear words.

>>5327275
The arm, maybe. He still has to have children, after all. Gotta get a successor.

>>5327324
But... He's a lich.

>>5327337
The thing about immortal people is that, by chance of probability, they always die

>>5327348
If they die, then they're clearly not immortal, are they? Ageless would be a better word.

>>5327348
I meant that he's a skeleton, and undead, and probably has no dick and can't reproduce.

>>5327350
No, i meant Immortal. Immortal people die because of probability. If you live forever, then eventually something will happen that will take you out. It's a mathematical certainty
>>5327352
No idea, but he looks like he has normal hands.

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>>5326611

>Paneira: 6
>Bordec: 3
>Zayyine: 3
>St. Charlotte: 1

Why, the Republic of Paneira is yours, of course. You kept the other three maps up for different reasons: Paneira exports wood to Bordec and imports oil from Zayyine, and you've longed to go to St. Charlotte and visit the beaches there.

Anyways, your mind wanders towards your desk, and there's a placard with your name engraved on it. 'Samuel "Chainsaw Sam" Evil', it proudly displays on front. Half-read reports litter the desk's surface, refocusing your mind towards the factions within Paneira.

>Baitros Indigenos
Native inhabitants of the Baitros rainforest to the west, they have a strong desire to protect their rainforest. May know jungle magics.

>Wetlands Indigenos
The natives of the wetlands is less attached to their swamps, but more economically opportunistic. A bit more modernized than their jungle counterpart.

>Ranchers
Mostly Metis (half-Indigenos), these ranchers are mostly in the northeast, although recently some had tried raising cattle in the wetlands. Has a free and wild culture.

>Plantation Workers
Descendants of imported slave laborers called Neges, they have a significant demographic impact. Mostly settled around the Arepa river. Looked down on by non-Indigenos.

>Loggers
Harvesting the Baitros rainforest are local and foreign lumberjacks, they lived in lumber camps near the jungles. Most are only there for the money.

>Academia
The intellegentsia of the urbanites, they strongly benefit from the scientific discoveries of the rainforest and swamps.

>Eco Cult
Also known as Hippies, these supposedly peaceful cults seek harmony with the environment. Mostly from abroad.

>Gangs
These barely organized criminals are a dime a dozen in the urban centers. Mostly stays in the barrios and fights among themselves.

>Airforce
Your airforce is a proud one, full of pilots with high marks. They've accumulated some aces during the last border skirmish with your neighbor, even though they're the smallest of your military branches.

>Army
Your army is big, mostly recruiting from former gangers and Neges who don't want the plantation life. As a result, they are very good at defensive urban and rural combat, despite their slightly outdated equipment.

>Navy
Guarding the coasts and rivers, they don't stand out much, but they do make results against river pirates and drug smugglers. Reliable on that end, at least.

>Spies
Your espionage and intel division is mostly a mystery to you, although they've successfully foiled plots in the past, they tend to give short-term warnings rather than long-term ones. Whether this is because they wanted more accuracy or plots of their own is hard to say.

Looking back on your reports, you wonder which ones are loyal and which ones are troublemakers in these dark times.

>Choose 3 factions you deem loyal, and 3 factions you deem troublemakers, and also roll 6d100 for their levels of loyalty/delinquency (highest 3 gets picked)

Rolled 98, 23, 55, 48, 33, 35 = 292 (6d100)

>>5327514
>Loyal
>>Army
>>Spies
>>Wetland idigenos

>Troublemakers
>>Gangs
>>Academia
>>Eco Cult

Fucking eggheads

Rolled 39, 26, 42, 29, 9, 88 = 233 (6d100)

>>5327521
>>5327514

Support

>>5327514
Loyal:
>Ranchers
We were a rancher, once, maybe...
>Army
>Academia
Look at our aesthetic. We are definitely a magical military-industrial skellington.

Troublemakers:
>Eco Cult
>Gangs
Dissidents be dissin', and we can't have that.

>Spies
I just don't trust 'em.

I see you there with your Cyber Six reference, IG.

Rolled 89, 84, 53, 70, 2, 31 = 329 (6d100)

>>5327525
+1

Rolled 85, 52, 85, 48, 99, 46 = 415 (6d100)

>>5327514
LOYAL
>Academia
>Rancers
>Army

TROUBLEMAKERS
>Spies
>Gangs
>Baitros Indigenos

>>5327538
blessed rolls

Rolled 54, 56, 5, 56, 1, 72 = 244 (6d100)

>>5327514
>LOYAL
Army
Plantation Laborers
Loggers

>TROUBLEMAKERS
Gangs
Eco Cult
Baitros Indigenos

Seriously, our nickname has CHAINSAW in it. How could the Loggers NOT be loyal to us?

>>5327543
I considered that, but if using a chainsaw in your job was enough to get nicknamed "Chainsaw Sam", every logger named Same would be a "Chainsaw Sam". Plus, they're just here for the money; how loyal can they be?

>>5327514
>Loyal
>>Army
>>Spies
>>Academia
Even if we lose air superiority, we have boots on the ground and all of the people who could shank us on our side. And academics are known espionage vectors IRL. All we need to do is have one of our guys get a pity degree at a richer nation and keep him feeding stuff back to the glorious motherland.
>Troublemakers
>>Gangs
>>Eco Cult
>>Baitros Indigenos
Fuck yo rainforest and fuck yo hood, we're an industrial, 'civilized' society.

Rolled 6, 10, 79, 100, 50, 76 = 321 (6d100)

>>5327556
Aw shit, my bad

Rolled 6, 66, 69, 17, 62, 43 = 263 (6d100)

>>5327514
Loyal
>Army
Not to diminish the strength of our other armed forces a strong army is essential for protecting our nation and taking what we need from our enemies
>Loggers
Our primary export is our lifeblood, to shun the good workers who support our nation is suicidal
>Academia
It is imperative that we foster smart thinkers and geniuses to strengthen our society

Troublemakers
>Eco Cult
Well to do foreign do-gooders who will relentlessly oppose our every action to provide for our citizenry. There can be no harm done excising them from Paneira
>Gangers
Any ganger of use will have release their talents would be put to better use in our indomitable army, these stragglers should be kept under control
>Spies
While they are certainly useful to keeping the peace, they wield such control of information that we must keep a constant vigil on them lest they attempt to dispose of us, or worse, turn us into unknowing puppets for their personal agenda

Rolled 8, 4, 16, 42, 78, 40 = 188 (6d100)

>>5327514
>Loyal
>>Army
>>Plantation Workers
>>Spies

In my left hand, instruments of war and death, so my people shall never know such a thing. In my right, I stretch out to those who break their own backs for us. And on my back, are those I trust with my very life.
Was considering switching Workers with Academia, but we just can't completely forget about our every man (There are a majority of them right?) We can always just give the Loggers more money if they get unhappy, can't do that with the workers. And I just don't trust Spies being just "neutral".

>Troublemakers
>>Gangs
>>Eco Cult
>>Baitros Indigenos

It pains me for it to be the Baitros, we just CAN'T have one of our main pillars of military be disloyal to us.
>>5327543
We keep all the chainsaws for ourselves.

>>5327562
>And I just don't trust Spies being just "neutral".
This. A neutral spy is a spy that works for your enemy half of the time, and we can't have that shit.

>>5327514
Loyal
>Army
>Academia
>Gangs
Troublemakers
>Eco Cult
>Loggers
>Baitros Indigenos

I like the idea of the gangs being loyal to us as The Godfather, and the Forest alliance being naturally antagonistic and infighting alot.

Rolled 62, 8, 11, 22, 36, 70 = 209 (6d100)

>>5327514
>>5327582

>>5327565
Actually, I interpreted the Spies as being non-loyal to us personally, but the nation as a whole.

Rolled 7, 15, 13, 58, 11, 76 = 180 (6d100)

>>5327514
>Loyal
Army, Spies, Wetland Indigenos

>Disloyal
Gang, Ecocult, Baitros Indigenos
>>5327525
ciber what now ?

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>>5327590
Cyber Six. Look it up.

Rolled 95, 58, 63, 93, 31, 44 = 384 (6d100)

>>5327590
Fucking faggot. Are search engines blocked in your shit of a country?

>>5327514
>Airforce
>Ranchers
>Loggers


>Gangs
>Eco Cult
>Wetlands Indigenos

>>5327609
Asking to the anon directly sometimes ends better and more summerized than a search

>>5327538
>>5327521
>>5327556
>>5327558
>>5327609
>Gangs are the highest roll for troublemakers
What did the dice mean by this?

>>5327610
Literally the first thing that pops up lazy nigger.

>>5327611
>What did the dice mean by this?
We have Banana Republic Yakuzas to deal with.

>>5327556
Hope is the forest people can grow more trees

Rolled 97, 35, 4, 42, 82, 67 = 327 (6d100)

>>5327514
>Loyal
Loggers
Ranchers
Army

>Troublemakers
Gangs
Eco Cult
Wetlands Indigenos

>>5327514
dice+6d100

>loyal
plantation laborers, army, spies

>disloyal
eco cult, gangs, wetlands indigenos

>>5327683
write the dice in the options field to roll

>>5327683
wait shit how do i roll this?

>>5327688
just told you, write dice+6d100 in the options field instead of the regular comment field

Rolled 67, 76, 4, 63, 62, 56 = 328 (6d100)

>>5327683
Rolling for you, then.

Rolled 14, 3, 68, 20, 2, 54 = 161 (6d100)

>>5327514
Loyal:
>Spies
These guys are a must have. If we cant trust our intelligence networks, who can we trust?
>Army
These guys are next on the list of importance. The airforce and navy are important but the army is our main line of defence. Plus we can use members of the army to influence the plantation workers and gangs.
>Baitros Indigenos
We're a lich right? It would probably be good to know that the guys who can use magic are on our side.

Troublemakers:
>Loggers
>Eco Cult
These two are natural enemies, so they might be more preoccupied with fighting eachother instead of trying to depose us. At the very least we probably won't see them band together against us.
>Gangs
Honestly I didn't know what else to put here, but they already got a nat 100 so whatever.

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>>5327514
We were supposed to be called "Samuel Chainsaw", not "Samuel Evil"!

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>>5327851
SAMUEL CHAINSAW

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>>5327514

>Loyal:
>Army 98
>Loggers 97
>Airforce 95

A couple reports catch your eye - the first is of a successful joint training exercise between the Army and Airforce. It was one of their best in years, and foreign observers even applaud their cooperation. You can always count on them to do their jobs right, it seems.
The second is of an unveiling of a wooden statue of you in a logger camp outside the town of Samoros - apparently the loggers are really thankful for their prospering industry. Well, they had their reasons, namely that time you managed to subsidize chainsaws for every lumberjack in Paneira and earning your moniker, which you fancy a lot. That's right, your logging exports to Bordec is that profitable to be able to afford those chainsaws.

>Troublemakers:
>Gangs 100
>Eco Cult 88
>Baitros Indigenos 76

The good mood from reading those reports get soured quick when you read the next two reports.
One is of a massive gang war that blossomed almost overnight in your capital, Materia City, between two rival gangs: the foreign-based Kaminari gang and the local but more brutal Panteras Sudacas (PS) gang. Gunfights ring out day and night, drivebys and car bombs, people afraid of going outdoors in some of the worst affected districts. And it's only the second day! Ugh, no-good criminals causing chaos and calamity. The economy might even take a hit if this goes on or spreads further than the capital.
The other report is more annoying but just as worrisome: the Eco Cult organized another massive anti-logging protest near the Baitros rainforest's edge, at the town of Samoros. Apparently it was then joined by the Baitros Indigenos, also wanting the preservation of their homes. Problem is, the loggers' camp is only a short distance away from Samoros, and you fear the industry might suffer in the long run. Not to mention the last time the Eco Cult protested, a mysterious explosion occurred in a nearby lumber camp. Your spies and investigators failed to find a connection between the incident and the protests. Ugh, hippies, do they not realize that your economy is propped up by the lumber export?

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>>5328069

It is times like this that makes you remember how you tend to rule over your long unlife. How do you usually handle situations like this?

>IRON HAND
Sometimes quick, sometimes effective, and always violently brutal. Keeps your populace in line, indeed.

>VELVET GLOVE
Handle it carefully, throw plenty of diplomacy, maybe pepper some bribes around. Keeps your populace satisfied, one way or another.

>SHADOW HAND
Gain intel about the situation, react accordingly, keep it all away from public and international eyes. Keeps your populace ignorant of such matters.

Suddenly, a soft buzz of your office's intercom disturbs your reverie.

"Sir, it's your new secretary." The presidential guard outside informs you of the visitor.
"I see. Let her in." You find using an authoritative but relaxed tone does well for morale.
After a series of thumps and clicks, the security door opens to a shapely Metis woman in glasses. You recognize her as Major Julia Oxoa, one of the very few women to pass both Spec Ops and Espionage training.
"Your ride is ready, Mr. President." She intones in a calm and professional manner. Good, she's confident in her first day on the job.

>What's your rulership tendency?
>□ Iron Fist
>□ Velvet Glove
>□ Shadow Hand

>Where are you going?
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital
>□ Capital PD to do a press conference
>□ Samoros, to deal with the protesters in the town
>□ Samoros, to visit the statue in the lumber camp
>□ Other (fill in)

>>5328087
>□ Iron Fist
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital

>>5328087
>SHADOW HAND
They would never expect a man named Chainsaw Sam to be sneaky.
>Samoros, to visit the statue in the lumber camp

>>5328087
>□ Shadow Hand
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital

Deploying secret killsquads is the first answer, the last and oftentimes the best.

>>5328087
>□ Shadow Hand
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital
This country looks like it's basically brazil, which means we're going to need literal military firepower to beat down those gangs.

>>5328087
>□ Iron Fist
If we had Loyal Spies + Army, Shadow Hand would be insanely strong. Not!-Gestapo infiltrates, gathers information and calls down the Right Wing Death Squads. Now we instead have Shock & Awe with both the Army and Airforce well integrated and loyal, so Iron fist fits the bill the best.
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital
Open gang warfare in the streets of the Capital City is unacceptale. If the local law enforcement can not get the city under control, we must deploy the army. For the safety of the citizens, of course.

>>5328094
Iron fist literally always fails. There isn't a single dictatorship that survived more than a few decades by shooting people in the streets.

>>5328087
>□ Shadow Hand
>□ Samoros, to visit the statue in the lumber camp

>>5328087
>□ Iron Fist
Would've choose Shadow if we had loyal spies, so now we have a big hole in our backs (Or glove) if we choose this.
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital
>>5328096
True. BUT!...It's fun!

>>5328093
>>5328094
yeah i dont trust our spies a spy that is not loyal is worse then a enemy spy as they are deep in us we let in

>>5328087
we are a lich so it would be more iron bones and shadow skin

>>5328115
That sounds so fu*king wicked.

while i do love the forest and preserving rainforest species and our species effect on the environment due to the pollution and destructive nature of humans as a invasive species but hippies do annoy me not knowing what they are speaking about and only focusing on the showy shit and not what there own governments are doing.

like they are only coming here too fuck around with us they offer not solutions only problems like why dont they care about "china equivalent responsible for majority of pollution" would be about race or some shit or how that government would just disappear them.

>>5328096
I'm playing to our strengths here. We have guaranteed loyalty of the Army and Airforce, any order we give will be carried out without fail so if we give the right orders we repress the right people with the right amount of force while keeping the support of the rest of the population. This is all done above table so as long as we don't fuck up by shooting literally everyone for no reason the people will know we're taking the Benevolent Dictator approach and using the neccessary force to protect them.
Shadow Hand however relies entirely on our Intelligence Agency (which we do not know if we can trust at this time) to be effective and is entirely under the table. Any covert action we take is a potential disaster waiting to happen if a spy with questionable loyalty decides he's had enough and leaks all the assassinations, disapperances, MKUltra-style brainwashings and other shady dealings we've been keeping from our population. That's how you lose international recognition and the support of the people overnight.

As I said, if we had guaranteed loyal spies instead of a loyal airforce picking Shadow Hand would be a no-brainer, but due to choices made Iron Hand is much more suitable to the factions we have in our pocket regardless of historical precedent.

>>5328069
>hippies
Truly the bane of all great men
>>5328087
>Iron Hand
We do what needs to be done, and since it needs to be done, it needs to be done NOW
>Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital
Ahem. I SAID FUCK YO HOOD

>>5328096
So what? This is called Fall of the Regime, not Boring Success of the Regime

>>5328087
>□ Iron Fist
A man named Chainsaw Sam does not pussyfoot around.
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital

>>5328156
based

>>5328087
>□ Iron Fist
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital
Everybody knows that ruling with a iron fist and deploying the military to stop crime is always a great idea!

>>5328087
>□ Shadow Hand
>□ Samoros, to visit the statue in the lumber camp

>>5328087
>□ Shadow Hand
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital

>>5328087
>□ Iron Fist
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital

Killemall

>>5328171
Army hq is better actually I hate gang members they raped my dad

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>>5328178
Damn dude I'm sorry about that.

>>5328087
>□ Shadow Hand
The most interesting, although Velvet Hand is pretty alluring...
>Samoros, to visit the statue in the lumber camp
I enjoy big statues and comfy woodwork camps so yeah.

>>5328178
We'll rape them, anon. But we need to borrow some of those chainsaws first...

>>5328140
>I'm playing to our strengths here. We have guaranteed loyalty of the Army and Airforce
The Army is good, but the Air Force, in all honesty, is pretty much useless in peacetime. I have no idea why people picked that.

I mean, what? Are we going to airstrike the protestors? Are we going to napalm bomb the striking workers?

>>5328193
The only rationale is really keeping the United States off our ass

>>5328193
I don't think Air Force got a majority. Not sure why it was picked.

>>5328197
But that's the thing, they're basically useless in peacetime. If the united states exists, they would most likely just cause enough unrest to fracture the country with riots.

Air Force is, unironically, one of the worst flavored groups we could have gotten. I can only hope we are able to gain the total loyalty of our spies

>>5328223
Oh yeah it definitely didn't. Literally got one (1) vote.

I call hax.

>>5328228
I think it got one of the highest dice rolls, check that again. The idea being that it's a combination of luck and decision making, where more investment means more likelihood to get a high roll.

>>5328223
Literally a single person voted, but the retard got an 95, which means we have the complete loyalty of an mostly useless branch.

>>5328193
Napalm. Yes. All our problems.

>>5328229
Well that sucks.

>>5328087
>Velvet Glove
>Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital

We are going to be issuing a state of martial law in Materia. If we had been ruling with a velvet glove for some time, the heavy handed maneuvers we are about to pull might have more of an effect than if they are expecting it.

>>5328087
>Iron Fist
>Samoros, to deal with protestors

>>5328231
Fuck off nigger. You lack foresight and fail to realize the importance of air-superiority domestically and abroad.

>>5328087
>□ Shadow Hand
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital

>>5328087
>□ Iron Fist
The military orgs love us, so do the choppy guys, we have weight to throw around.

>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital

>>5328257
There is no point in having intercontinental power projection if we can't even trust our intelligence agencies that provide the targets. But personally I don't really mind having the air force in our back pockets, it's just not having the faction that could most easily kill us and then plant a body double in our place firmly on our side is not the greatest situation.

>>5328257
Ah yes, tell me more about how you'll carpet bomb the economy into working.

>>5328282
>Airforce
>Your airforce is a proud one, full of pilots with high marks. They've accumulated some aces during the last border skirmish with your neighbor, even though they're the smallest of your military branches.
>accumulated some aces
An ace is recognized as shooting down five or more enemy aircraft. At minimum, 15 enemy aircraft have been shot down. I'm preventing OTHER COUNTRIES from bombing our economy. They're not there for nothing.

>>5328294
Again, the air force is useful in a war, but the truth about dictatorships is that 9/10 times, what will bring you down is your own people

Having an air force is extremely useful, but having extreme loyalty from one isn't particularly that great. Sure, you wouldn't want a disloyal airforce, but it would be way better to have the loyalty of the Spies or the Academics than the Air Force.

I don’t like Iron Hand because monkey anons are going to use it to re-enact their fascism fantasy again and derail with their politics posting

>>5328304
Judging by how the OP draws Black people we aren't that far off

>>5328087
>Velvet Glove
>Protestors
We can cut a deal with the Indigenous peoples. Set aside land for their sole usage or let them have
A cut of the proceeds of the logging. Or even give them an enclave where they stay out of the business of the main government and the federal government leaves them alone

>>5328304
Anon we're a literal fascist dictator of not Brazil.
>>5328305
No no no Anon! They are not black people! They are the descendants of the N-Negods I can't even type it out.

>>5328305
Hey, at least he didn’t make them gang members

>>5328305
>noooo you can't make stylized drawings
The secretary's nose literally takes up her entire forehead. Shut up.

>>5328305
>>5328304
>derail with their politics posting
>in a quest about being a dictator of a fictionalized country

Do you idiots have any self-awareness at all or were you born mentally retarded?

>>5328305
What makes you think they're black? Africans weren't the only people who were brought to Brazil to work on plantations.

>>5328309
What makes us fascist? Militaristic sure, but there's nothing so far that is particularly exceptionalist in regards to the nation or people. We do know that we have subsidized the logging industry, so we could be socialist.

>>5328087
>□ Shadow Hand
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital
I say we send in the troops to back the Kaminari like the strategy in the movie Sicario. Fracticious gangs means more infighting and more violence. The Kaminari are less brutal and thus more easily controllable. If we can ingratiate ourselves with them, perhaps we can use them as paramilitaries to deal with internal issues like ecoterrorists with plausible deniability while accessing the black market among other things that can get us in touch with arms dealers to better equip our military.

I also suggest we get the intelligentsia to find ways to do sustainable logging. Very easily sellable to both undermine the legitimacy of ecoterrorists domestically and abroad since we are trying to limit the impact on the environment, while at the same time we can portray it as a way to sustain the industry forever to the loggers.

>>5328343
>What makes you think they're black? Africans weren't the only people who were brought to Brazil to work on plantations.
Technically true...But they're called Neges, have dreadlocks and have donut lips for crying out loud. Who else can they be?
>What makes us fascist?
Regime is literally in the main title.

>>5328347
Working with violent gangs seems like a very good way to get yourself killed and your men corrupted.

Do you WANT to become an Cartel State? Look at fucking mexico and see if that's something you want.

>>5328349
1. Unlike Mexico, our military we know is loyal to us nearly completely. By starting an all out war with both gangs, we run the possibility of uniting them and thus intensifying the destruction and further problems down the road. I don't want embittered criminal elements selling weapons to ecoterrorists or indigenous.

2. The US has greatly suffered from the fall out of drug crime from both an all powerful unitary cartel, while also from the fractious turf wars of multiple factions. I believe we can avoid all of those problems by becoming the head of organized crime ourselves. By backing a less violent side, one that is weakened fighting the other gang, we can co-opt this gang in its current state for our own purposes. Make the gang answerable only to us. I believe these criminals speak the language of money. As long as they get pay, they will be loyal and get our backing.

>>5328356
While our army is loyal, these gangsters could extremely easy turn our civil elements against us by bring their asses off, because they're literal fucking gangsters.

Trying to work with literal south american cartels is the most retarded thing you could do. They're literally going to start publically executing people the picosecond we start doing stuff. Not to mention completely taking over our cities.

You can't "co-opt" crime. That's stupid. If the president does it, it's not a crime. So either we make crime legal, in which case our country is going to get EVEN WORSE and continue going a downward spiral of drug addiction, violence and crime, or your plan makes no sense.

Trying to "work with" inhuman criminals who use literal children as meatshields in gunfights (literally something that happened down here in brazil) is only going to make everything worse for everyone.

Kill them all while we're able.

>>5328348
Indians have a have more of a cultural connection to dreadlocks than Africans who more often than not either shave their head or braid their hair. And donut lips appear on non African people in anime in manga pretty often, ie Kinnikuman. Even if they are black, we did ally with one of the factions with the largest amount of Nege, so its not as if they are being oppressed or segregated by us.

Regime has also been used for communist nations as well, especially in the case of North Korea. Generally its just used in cases of a ruler who is probably also an authoritarian, rather than any sort of indicator towards left or right leaning.

>>5328372
North Korea has a literal dynastic succesion. It's so far right it went back ti absolute monarchy.

I agree with the rest of your points.

>>5328372
I actually really like a setting that is a fantasy version of a demographically diverse region . Afro Latin erasure is a big deal to this day. (Most of Latin America has more Black people per Capita than the US).

I just don't like the lips. Drawing the Indigenous in an art style that mirrors that of the Mexica was a nice touch , I think something like that could be done for the Neges as well.

>>5328361
>Trying to "work with" inhuman criminals who use literal children as meatshields in gunfights (literally something that happened down here in brazil) is only going to make everything worse for everyone.
To be fair anons could vote for us to be doing the same thing.

>>5328402
Yes, but the point is that it is absolutely retarded to work with criminal cartels.

>>5328404
Eh. Their motives are fundamentally capitalist. Just pay them off and they'll behave. If strong cartels can make weak governments their puppets surely the reverse Dan be true?

>>5328421
>Just pay them off and they'll behave.
Tell me how you're not south american without telling me you're not south american. You don't know how fucking horrible these latin-style gangs are.

They're fucking animals, mate. They're not going to stop because you bribed them. They're going to take the bribe, buy a bunch of guns, and start executing people in the middle of the day in open air.
> If strong cartels can make weak governments their puppets surely the reverse Dan be true?
"Working with the cartels" will only make them stronger.

>>5328396
As someone with thick-ass lips, while I get the sentiment, it really do be like that sometimes.

>>5328361
>these gangsters could extremely easy turn our civil elements against us by bring their asses off
They can only do that if the state is weak and we are certainly not weak. With our position of strength, we can easily bully them to tow the line that we set or they end up dead and in prison.

Governments and entities around the world from Ireland to Colombia and the like have used questionable paramilitaries before to do their dirty work. I use cartels as an example of strategy. You are the ones making the assumption that these gangs operate and are as powerful like the cartels.

Even then, demonstrably in history, open warfare against unified crime groups have ended in destruction and social unrest. Your hardline approach is unnecessary and inefficient. Intelligence agencies have co-opted armed groups all throughout modern history. It's possible and viable.

>>5328452
>we are certainly not weak
>FALL of the Regime
Uhhh...

>>5328457
>implying that it's not tongue in cheek based on player choices

>>5328452
>They can only do that if the state is weak and we are certainly not weak
Not how it works. A bribe is a bribe.
>Governments and entities around the world from Ireland to Colombia and the like have used questionable paramilitaries before to do their dirty work
I feel like you don't understand the difference between a paramilitary and a cartel. Using an civilian military group for dirty work is a thing, trusting drug dealers to kill people we want dead and thinking that it'll all work out is retarded.
>Even then, demonstrably in history, open warfare against unified crime groups have ended in destruction and social unrest
It is literally the only thing that'll work. They're fucking cartels - not political groups, not ethnic groups, a drug cartel, the "slaughter entire village because a single man didn't pay his drug money to me" kind of cartel.

>>5328461
You are the only one bringing up cartels. No indication that they are and thus not nearly as powerful as we are.
>A bribe is a bribe
Bribes don't mean shit if we have state and anti-corruption infrastructure that works. The fact that our military is so loyal is indicative of that. I notice that you haven't addressed any of my other points either. Kinda clear you're projecting the conditions of your own country to this fictional one.

>>5328467
>You are the only one bringing up cartels.
They're literally having a gang war in our streets. If that's not a cartel, i don't know what is.
>Bribes don't mean shit if we have state and anti-corruption infrastructure that works.
"Anti-corruption infrastructure" won't work if we're literally working with the criminals and activelly allowing them to continue committing crimes.
> I notice that you haven't addressed any of my other points either.
Which points? That we are somehow strong despite the entire pitch of the quest being an dictatorship on the decline?

>>5328424
I defer to your experience latinanon. Sorry you have to deal with that bullshit.

>>5328470
>Which points?

>Governments and entities around the world from Ireland to Colombia and the like have used questionable paramilitaries before to do their dirty work.
>Even then, demonstrably in history, open warfare against unified crime groups have ended in destruction and social unrest. Your hardline approach is unnecessary and inefficient. Intelligence agencies have co-opted armed groups all throughout modern history. It's possible and viable.
>The US has greatly suffered from the fall out of drug crime from both an all powerful unitary cartel, while also from the fractious turf wars of multiple factions. I believe we can avoid all of those problems by becoming the head of organized crime ourselves. By backing a less violent side, one that is weakened fighting the other gang, we can co-opt this gang in its current state for our own purposes. Make the gang answerable only to us. I believe these criminals speak the language of money. As long as they get pay, they will be loyal and get our backing.
>By starting an all out war with both gangs, we run the possibility of uniting them and thus intensifying the destruction and further problems down the road. I don't want embittered criminal elements selling weapons to ecoterrorists or indigenous.

As for the rest:
There are levels to organized crime. There are extremely powerful cartels who have international reach and make billions of dollars and then their are petty gangs from the slums whose violence spill out to interrupt daily life. The power difference is immense and by conflating that, you are underestimating our strength.

>"Anti-corruption infrastructure" won't work if we're literally working with the criminals and actively allowing them to continue committing crimes.
The trains in London ran on time while the British government sent weapons to militias in Northern Ireland right next door. The CIA used trade unions, criminal gangs, and all sorts as front groups to be proxy groups in the efforts all around the world. You make arguments about who are the criminals in this case, but ultimately those in power benefited. I believe we will too.

>>5328477
>Governments and entities around the world from Ireland to Colombia and the like have used questionable paramilitaries before to do their dirty work.
Repeating what i said, "I feel like you don't understand the difference between a paramilitary and a cartel. Using an civilian military group for dirty work is a thing, trusting drug dealers to kill people we want dead and thinking that it'll all work out is retarded."
>Even then, demonstrably in history, open warfare against unified crime groups have ended in destruction and social unrest.
To which i said, "It is literally the only thing that'll work. They're fucking cartels - not political groups, not ethnic groups, a drug cartel, the "slaughter entire village because a single man didn't pay his drug money to me" kind of cartel."
>"The US has greatly suffered from the fall out of drug crime from both an all powerful unitary cartel, while also from the fractious turf wars of multiple factions."
To which i said >>5328361
>By starting an all out war with both gangs, we run the possibility of uniting them and thus intensifying the destruction and further problems down the road.
And if we support one, then they'll just do it and continue causing problems for us regardless. Because we're letting A CARTEL RUN FREE
>The power difference is immense and by conflating that, you are underestimating our strength.
They're an criminal cartel in an south american styled country. Furthermore, by patronizing and allowing a cartel to literally take out all their competitors, if it wasn't an international cartel then it will become one.
>The trains in London ran on time while the British government sent weapons to militias in Northern Ireland right next door.
For fucks sake, stop conflating ethnic or religious militias with drug peddlers.
>The CIA used trade unions, criminal gangs, and all sorts as front groups to be proxy groups in the efforts all around the world
And look at how that turned out for America - the CIA is literally responsible for the drug crisis they face.

>>5328421
https://insightcrime.org/mexico-organized-crime-news/knights-templar-profile/

While I feel like this article doesn't do the Knights Templar justice, they are a recent example of how this sort of organized crime can spiral out into a goddamn mess.

Use spies to figure out the gang hideouts, and then air force to just bomb the shit out of them

Actually, this reminds me, how is our capital? Like, what's the state? For example, does it have favelas?

This is important not just to know the state of our people, but because favelas are absolutely horrible when it comes for anti-crime operations. Criminals will literally make barricades, secret tunnels and sniper nests and you wont even know they're there until they ambushed your troops

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Ok guys quick thing. I know we all hate that we have picked Airforce, BUT, I have a reason for it not to be the worst thing that happened to us. Ace Combat war crimes. That's all.

>>5328087
>□ Velvet Glove

>□ Samoros, to visit the statue in the lumber camp

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>>5328519
A good airforce does mean we can spend obscene amounts of funds on flying fortresses

>>5328319
I strongly believe it's the latter, anon. 4chan should just be renamed to Twitter2 at this point.

>>5328087
>□ Shadow Hand
>□ Army HQ to discuss the possibility of deploying troops in the capital

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>>5328641
God if we ever make something like the Arsenal Bird, I'd say with confidence we won the quest. Maybe picking the Airforce wasn't a bad idea after all...God I hope Iron Hand wins.

>>5328766
>>5328319
Have you not read Monke quest? You would understand what anon meant by “politics” posting. It’s not what you think it is.

>>5328964
Enlighten me.

>>5328978
>>5328964
Fucking stop, lest you fulfill your own goddamn prophecy.

>>5328961
Huh, honest question, but will we get to do Ace Combat level stuff if we pick Shadow Hand? Because if we can still do that stuff than I'm ok with it getting picked.

>>5328989
The only time we'll use our air force is if we're in a war, and that won't depend on our style. Iron Hand is just a stupid way to rule. It never ends well.

>>5328087
Ive read enough of A Song of Ice and Fire to know that Iron Hand will fuck us up.

I would say Shadow hand but since the spies arent completely loyal to us, maybe we should go with VELVET GLOVE

> Capital PD

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>>5328087

"Very well, Julia. Follow me." You rise from your seat, and exit your bunker compound via one of the many secret passages known only to your highest ranking spies and presidential guard. An armored car awaits you, a precaution you don't really need since you're a lich. But, you arrange for it anyways since you're hiding the fact that you're a lich. You've learned early in your lichdom that immortality attracts too much undue attention. To your populace, you're just an eccentric dictator who ruled with an iron fist, and you've heard conspiracy theories saying that you're multiple people in succession, a robot, and even two goblins stacked together. Hah! Let them speculate.

Soon, you arrive at the Army Headquarters just outside of your capital, Materia City. You and Julia enter the war room, your steps confident. Seated on the other end of the circular table are General Kombassa Johnson of the army and General Clifton Ferrel of the airforce, who salute you from their seats.
"Greetings, gentlemen. You understand why I summoned you here, yes?" You ask, knowing full well they did.
"Yes, your excellency. The gang situation." General Kombassa presses a button, and a projected map of Materia City appears on the wall to your side.
"According to the Chief of Police, there are three districts where the gangs clashed. The riverside harbor district, the Favelas, and Oldtown district. It appears that the fighting is heaviest in the harbor and favelas, with the violence spilling over towards Oldtown."
He then points out towards the Favelas and Oldtown. "We need to cross these bridges if we want to enter the city."

You nod. "I see. What options do we have?"
"We could send some tanks across the bridges, and shock and awe those gangers. Or, we could deploy APCs, and have our troops secure the districts street by street." The general seems confident in his options.
"Us airforce could just send fighters in, but since we don't know where their bases are, that would just be a big pile of collateral damage. So instead, we could send our assault helicopters to assist the army - or alternatively, our air assault specialists could rappel in from the roofs of suspect buildings." General Ferrel weighs in.
"And oh, we don't need to use the bridges, obviously."

"Our men are already on standby, whichever tactic you want to use, your excellency. We are just waiting for your word." Hmm, not bad, they show initiative.

>What should you deploy?
>Army:
>□ Tanks
>□ APCs
>□ Mix of both

>Airforce:
>□ Assault heli
>□ Air Specialist teams
>□ Mix of both

>Where first?
>□ Favelas
>□ Oldtown
>□ Harbor (air only)

>>5329046
>Mix of both
>Air Specialist teams
>Favelas

>>5329046
>>5329048
+1 to this. The gangs will have a whole lotta hidey-holes if we don't nip the favela problem in the bud.

>>5329046
>□ Mix of both
>□ Mix of both
>□ Oldtown
It's time for some renovations.

>>5329046
>□ Mix of both
>□ Air Specialist teams
>□ Favelas
Trying to drive vehicles through the slum alleys will be a disaster. Perhaps a better use for the army teams would be to seize the main thoroughfares through the district to compartmentalise it and break it up while spec ops does their thing. And pull the plug on the cell networks too if we can.

>>5329046
>□ APCs
You are all foolish - take it from a huezillian, tanks are completely and utterly useless in the favela. In the end, tanks are armored vehicles made for taking out other tanks and fortified positions - not for strictly anti-personnel operations. They're too slow.
>□ Air Specialist teams
Assault helis will just make undue destruction.
>□ Oldtown
Favela will be hell, so let's go take out oldtown first.

>>5329054
oh, and change
>□ Mix of both
for
>APCs
This kind of environment is a tanker's worst nightmare. They'll be sitting ducks.

>>5329068
Not even that, they literally won't be able to go through the narrow streets. In fact, there's been cases in the brazilian favellas where criminals literally dumped tons of liquid on a hill so the police APCs would not be able to climb.

An tank has no hope.

>>5329064
>>5329048
Fair. Changing the Mix of Both to APC. Still wanna get rid of Favela for reasons™

>>5329046
>□ APCs
>□ Air Specialist teams
>□ Favelas
Tanks and Assault Helis are super overkill and not suited for this environment. APCs will more than suffice, and are less expensive to potentially lose. Assault Helis I could see maybe being useful, but are likely to cause collateral damage and isn't good for our image.

>>5329072
If you get rid of the favela, it'll just crop up somewhere else. The only way to get rid of favelas permanently is by making the economical situation better.

>>5329046
>□ APCs
>□ Air Specialist teams
>□ Favelas

>>5329083
Based lefty

>>5329064
+1

>>5329088
No, just an huezillian. In fact, the lefty government here just made everything worse.

>>5329091
Fixing poverty not through violence but my making people's lives not shitty is a foundational principle of leftism.

Contrast that with USA style where homelessness is criminalized and poverty is treated like a moral failing.

>>5329046
>Army: Mix of Both
>Airforce: Air Specialists
>Oldtown
Oldtown, old money. Harder to make us look like the bad guys than if we destroy the slums, too.

>>5329100
>Fixing poverty not through violence but my making people's lives not shitty is a foundational principle of leftism.
No, it's fucking not, that's retarded.

>>5329102
It literally is. If by "leftism" you mean "socialist systems", their principle concern (at least on paper) is wielding or manipilating the state to ameliorate social ills. It's in the name. The contention of economically "right wing" or "liberal" (real/original meaning, nor the dumb Estados Unidos one where it is sysnonhmous with anything left of the GOP) is that such policies lead to inefficiencies and corrupt bureaucracies which do more hard than good.

>>5329107
>leftism is when do good
>right-wing is when libertarian
silence, american

>>5329108
I am not American, and never said "good". Attempts to improve socio-economic condituons through direct intervention of the state are socialist. That's just what socialism is. Whether it works properly or not is a separate matter.

>>5329114
>unironical "socialism is when the government does stuff"

>>5329114
What would state mandated charity quality as? Mercenary socialism?

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>>5329116

>>5329116
Socialism is when the government regulates the economy in behalf of the community, yes. That is literally the definition of the word. This can be good or bad, partial or total, and most governments these days do at least a little bit of socialism.

>>5329117
Maybe? I mean, assuming they let people devide where to donate. Otherwise, that's just taxation for social programs.

>>5329124
>Socialism is when the government regulates the economy in behalf of the community, yes.
Socialism is an completely and utterly different economic system pertaining to the ownership of property.

Fucking hell. This is retarded.

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>>5329046
>□ Mix of both
Get tanks to push the line when needed and foot soldiers to secure the fuck out of that place.
>□ Air Specialist teams
The tanks should suffice to push the line, just get our spec ops in there. Snipers too, if they can get some deployed on the roof.
>□ Favelas

Let's get this over with and see our new statue.

>>5329129
"a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
>owned OR REGULATED
When the government asserts dominion over economic outputs, inputs, or asserts authority over transactions and how they are conducted for the good of "the people", that's a socialist policy. You can atgue it's not, but that's semantics. This is a dictionary definition, and it's what I'm operating on. If you want to use a bespoke definition which includes or excludes things to help shore up your own beliefs about what is good/bad, that's fine. That's just a value-neutral definition of what the word means.

ANYWAY, back to the quest.

>>5329137
>This is a dictionary definitionn
It's the definition of your dictionary. Socialism is about the ownership of the means of production, not some retarded ass "the gubmint did something so it's socialist"

If that was the case, literally every government on the face of the earth for all of human history was socialist. The roman repulblic had quite a lot in the means of economical influence. Was fucking rome socialist? Retard.

>>5329139
No, Rome wasn't socialist. Yes, policies Rome enacted for the specific purpose of ameliorating social ills by asserting communal rights to resources were socialist policies. No, they wouldn't have used that term. No, the term itself doesn't matter, since it's just a value-neutral description of a policy's goals and method of implementation.

>>5329046
>□ APCs
>□ Air Specialist teams
>□ Oldtown
We need to contain the violence. If we strike anywhere else we risk having the fighting shift to other regions

>>5329048
>+1

>>5329141
Yeah, sure whatever you say. Everyone and everything was socialist.

>>5329046
> APCs
> Mixed
> Oldtown.
It probably has historic tourist sites and seems easiest to enter.

>>5329083
You all seem to be forgetting the part where the protagonist is an evil undead dictator.

>>5329132
Taking tanks into a favela is gonna go poorly

>>5329139
>Was fucking rome socialist?
At times, yes. The Bread and Circuses policy for example is blatantly socialist.

Shit I thought this was the quest where we're a cool undead lich what happened

>>5329181
The same thing that happened to the quest where we're a cool blue monkey.

>>5329173
Lmao. Any expression of state power is apparently socialism. A concept that never existed in ancient times.

>>5329046
>□ APCs
>□ Mix of both
>□ Favelas
I'm afraid using the bridges will make them a target for the gangers. I think being thorough clearing street by street is good. I think it's likely the Favelas are where the gangs are basing their operations from so take it and the rest will be isolated.

>>5329218
The term didn't exist, but the concept of communal ownership and government control to redistribute and manage resources on the behalf of the people sure did. Stop obsessing iver buzzwords.

>>5329184
>>5329181
>Quests about political scheming attract political conversation
>People on 4chan are bad at civil, intelligent political debate and instead just call each other retards and spam memes
Is anyone really surprised?

>>5329218
Electricity as a concept didn't exist then either, it doesn't mean lighting wasn't real

>>5329248
>People on 4chan are bad at
Last I checked, SV, SB, twitter, etc are just are no better except you can't call each other retards or nigger

Civ/political quests have got one fine on this board. It’s only when there’s a fascist dictator that anons spazz out. Anons did warn about the iron hand, certain anons always self-insert.

>>5329277
>Last I checked, SV, SB, twitter, etc are just are no better
SV, SB are way better

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>>5329580
Better if you need 26 genders, maybe.

>>5329597
Don't NEED 'em, but they're just groovy.

>>5329608
I for one, support infinite genders.

>>5329277
Also not having there exact opinion or bringing up unplesant history they will ban you also you cant meme literally in the rules "dont 4-chan"

>>5329046
>□ Mix of both
>□ Assault heli
>□ Favelas

>>5329100
> Fixing poverty not through violence but my making people's lives not shitty is a foundational principle of leftism.
I think you mean capitalism, not leftism. Look at Venezuela’s starving population if you want a quest related example of leftism implemented on a country.

>>5329107
The principle concern with socialist systems isn’t with social welfare, it concern is about total state control of all levels of society. Socialist caring about social ills is merely the tool to give them more power over society, not to actually correct the social ills caused by Big Government intervention in said society. The corruption and inefficiencies are a feature, not a bug.

>>5329124
>Socialism is when the government regulates the economy in behalf of the community
No, that’s National Socialism (the original definition, not the retarded American one where National Socialism is somehow ‘right-wing’ or is ideologically equivalent to liberalism). Socialism is total state control of a society, implemented thought the economy. Who benefits (beside the unaccountable elites) is more ideological propaganda geared toward ‘the community’, whether that be class, race, or other identities, regardless of actual tangible benefits or improvements to social ills or living standards.

>>5329137
I think that definition is inherently misleading to the actual praxis (or practice) of socialism, but sure. ‘Value-neutral’ isn’t what I would describe it, but that’s mostly because people either treat it as as their living God or the coming Anti-Christ.

>>5329279
Agreed. I’m playing Nationquest (tribal democracy that EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE on paper) and Sun Belt Crusader Quest (playing as Walter White’s Catholic Mujahideen in collapsing America during the 2nd Civil War), and we don’t have the levels of autism Space Monkes or this quest gets. I’m starting to think it’s a drawfag quest thing.

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>>5329716
>"Socialism is when government does thing" is absurd!
>Socialism is when government does BAD thing!
>When good thing happens, this is not socialism

Okay. I cede the argument, you win. Socialism is just the bad interventions, not the good ones. Let's go back to doing bad/good/amoral skellington interventions, shall we?

>>5329746
I mean, if you want to leave it on your reductionist strawman, sure.

>>5329746
But to clarify, government interventions always have unintentionally consequences that create more problems in the long run, not less. They then try to solve those problems with more intervention, when all they needed to do was just let the market or society work it out naturally.

>>5329746
>>5329764
>>5329789
No one cares. Stop derailing autists.

>>5329789
>just let the market or society work it out naturally.
>monopolizes are good, I swear
Fuck off, lolbertarian faggot.

>>5329792
If that was true there wouldn’t be autists about it.

>>5329794
>implying Big Government isn’t the biggest monopoly there is
If it wasn’t for government intervention, large corporations destroying small businesses wouldn’t be a thing.

>>5329794
Now that we know he's delusional everybody can stop arguing with him. Problem solved.

>>5329801
Lol

>>5329800
>implying any large group of gathered people don't naturally form a hierarchy to dictate the lives of everyone which inevitably becomes corrupt due to human nature
Fuck off to a hippie commune and live like an animal if you want to be "free"

>>5329804
Actually, I do agree with that. It’s funny you think that I’m arguing the opposite.

>>5329792
I already bowed out, my bosom buddy. It's already apparent Lq1E3Oqz is just unable to stop himself. He argued with a dictionary. I have ceased replying to him, and am just waiting for the next vote. The others should stop feeding into his compulsion, too.

>>5329808
Then it goes to show your beliefs are meaningless and your arguments have no foundation.
Humanity is an unbreakable collective that transcends this plane of existence, for we were created in God's image and His Son Jesus Christ, who gave His life for us, is King of Kings, Lord of Lords, and King of the Jews.
Your mockery of these tenets will be your ultimate undoing.

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This board is about collaborative story-telling.

>>5329821
Why are 1-post IDs such passive-aggressive cowards? Do you think posting from whatever ID you normally post from is going to make anyone not vote for whatever it is you go with in the future?
Newflash: You're not that important.

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>>5329792
To my previous point, I'd also like it noted that my comments also apply to 6kyBKtiF.

>>5329830
You might as well put yourself on that list mate

>>5329808
>>5329825
Right, despite the bump in post numbers I'll have to bonk the both of you to shut up about politics. I don't care if your points are correct or not, the way you argue about it is majorly retarded and frankly blunts any point it might have. More words does not mean more sophistication, as does insults.

That said, currently working on the update. So far, the consensus is... APCs and Air Specialists towards the Favelas.

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>>5329889
And here I thought IG couldn't get any more based.

>>5329889
Based QM.

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>>5329046

You mull over the options. While tanks could roll down Oldtown and harbor district's roads just fine, they would just be a hindrance in the labyrinth-like and hilly terrain of the favelas - and you want this nuisance over quickly. That means, you'd have to strike hard into the favelas.

"Generals, I would like to sweep the favelas clean. Attack and neutralize any hostile armed ganger you meet - split your forces northwest and west. Move towards the harbor district, await further orders then." You give the order decisively, your fondness of military strategy shows clear.

"Sir, yes sir! We'll alert the APC brigade to load troops right away!" General Kombassa salutes sharply.
"Roger that, sir! Air specialists embaking into troop helis as we speak." General Ferrel salutes coolly, and both generals take leave to send mobilization orders down the chain of command.

"Sir, would you like to name this operation?" Your secretary, Julia, reminds you. Hmm, it should be something catchy, you think.

09:23 CENTRAL PANEIRA TIME

https://youtu.be/YPDD4JvcQJY

The bridge named Rozinante shudders slightly under the weight of dozens of APCs crossing it into the favelas. It spans over a distributary of the Arepa river called the Joaquin river, connecting the capital, Materia City, with the southwestern parts of the country. Three troop helis rush above the advancing vehicles, the military force unimpeded by civilian vehicles because you've already enacted martial law on the three southern districts of Materia City an hour before. On the northern side of the bridge, the favelas loom over the hills like mushrooms, their chaotic atmosphere further amplified by the sound of sporadic gunfire and pillars of smoke from burnt cars and tires. You've received info that there are still some police force engaged with the gangers, but they're barely holding on.

>What should you name this operation?
>□ (fill in)

>Also roll 4d100, 3 highest chosen for:
>Army success, east route
>Army success, northeast route
>Airforce success, east route
>Airforce success, northeast route

Rolled 87, 85, 73, 70 = 315 (4d100)

>>5330280
>Operation Mushroom Cutter

>Army success, east route
>Army success, northeast route
>Airforce success, east route
>Airforce success, northeast route

Rolled 63, 28, 87, 13 = 191 (4d100)

>>5330280
Oops, forgot to roll for the gangers

Rolled 72, 34, 29, 97 = 232 (4d100)

>>5330280
>Operation Lowbrow

Rolled 41, 25, 48, 45 = 159 (4d100)

>>5330280
>Operation Grounding Javelin

Rolled 33, 74, 43, 17 = 167 (4d100)

>>5330280

Rolled 51, 23, 71, 14 = 159 (4d100)

>>5330280
>Operation Hippodrome

Rolled 44, 56, 32, 20 = 152 (4d100)

>>5330280
>Operation Plowhead

>>5330280
Wait, are we choosing what the success is for as well? If it's three out of four, then:

>Army success, east route
>Army success, northeast route
>Air Force success, east route

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Rolled 47, 18, 17, 78 = 160 (4d100)

>>5329889
>A based QM in these in these trying threads
Beautiful.

>>5330280
>Operation Cleanout
>Army success, east route
>Army success, northeast route
>Air Force success, east route

Rolled 47, 8, 60, 45 = 160 (4d100)

>>5330280
>OPERATION FAVELA COOKOUT

Rolled 92, 23, 1, 5 = 121 (4d100)

>>5330280
This is not law enforcement... THIS IS PEST CONTROL!
>OPERATION BUG BOMB

Rolled 49, 35, 88, 100 = 272 (4d100)

>>5330280
>Operation Favela Cutout
As fellow lumberjack enjoyer voted. It reminds me of Payday a little which is a double win.
As someone who never got into Gaol and missed out on Indonesian goodness, I'm very grateful for this quest. May it be comfy and free of blue monkeypox.
t.>>5329132

Rolled 26, 43, 32, 35 = 136 (4d100)

>>5330280

>>5330343
almost certainly not, he probably means the "3 highest rolls", like he did for the vote choosing who was loyal and disloyal, he picked the highest numbers rolled. It's an odd system, especially with this many voters nearly assuring incredible results

>>5330380
I guess I was looking for a catch where there wasn't one, then. Huh.

Rolled 81, 34, 35, 91 = 241 (4d100)

>>5330280
>Operation Sopa Caseira

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>>5330379
I would like to assign my 100 to the eastern Air Force route, if possible.
Let em sniper boys with their fancy toys have the big W.

Rolled 75, 58, 53, 36 = 222 (4d100)

>>5330280
>What should you name this operation?
Operation Sopa Caseira, go full BR
Rolling

Rolled 28, 82, 99, 55 = 264 (4d100)

>>5330280
>Operation Uma Delicia
>Airforce success, east route
>Airforce success, northeast route
>Army success, northeast route

Rolled 23, 49, 69, 30 = 171 (4d100)

>>5329889
Right on.

>>5330280
>Operation Mushroom Cutter

>>5330416
based sopa de macaco enjoyer

So, if we find some kid gang members we're killing them right?

Rolled 37, 15, 38, 29 = 119 (4d100)

>>5330280
Operation Warriors

>Army success, east route
>Army success, northeast route
>Airforce success, east route
>Airforce success, northeast route
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7UEmYGp5VxY

>>5330380
Yeah, I'm thinking of using 3 kinds of dice systems:
If it's something we excel in, we use highest rolls
If it's something normal, average of rolls/best of 3
If it's something difficult, lowest rolls

>>5330911
Makes sense to me!

>>5330380
>>5328229
This system of voting modified by dice rolls was how IG ran the Husbando Tourney, too. It... Is interesting. I like this proposed "three tier" system a bit better. Seems more gamey, and less random.arbitrary.

>>5330911
Sounds legit. We're incentivized to do things in a certain way, but if anons REALLY feel like an option is worth pursuing, it can be done another way.